i think ive got it

[Corvairkid]

ive been running down the voltages and the trigger coil had the right oms resistance but no voltage when rotating the motor its only geting 0.04 or .11 + volts DC but i dont think thats enough

[Corvairkid]

i wish spud was around he seems to know a lot... SUPER SPUD WHERE ARE YOU!!!!

[Corvairkid]

nope didnt fix it i also discovered the lifan cdi had a different pit wiring then the zong cdi.......had a lot of bikes in hte past this is my first headache .............

[Corvairkid]

i think i may have isolated it the green and white off of the trigger coil goes up to a plug on the other side (wiring harness for the bike side) the wire turns solid green and that side is grounded no matter where i touch so ill be un tapping the harness and looking for shorts there

[Corvairkid]

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/cromiro/zong200cc.jpg

i found this on another post and going by this my 250gs trigger wire is wired wrong the green and white i have is going to ground not an isolated circuit

[Weldangrind]

Before you go further, do you have a four pin reg and an eight pin cdi, like in the diagram?

[Corvairkid]

5 wire regulator..... 3 yellow 1 red 1 green

[Corvairkid]

and yes the cdi is 8 pin Zong orgnial also have a lifan 300cc box 8 pin

[Corvairkid]

this is a closer diagram of my bike i'm missing the black wire off my regulator tho its in the harness and in the plug but no hole in the regulator where a wire might have come from or markers of where it was in the regulator plug but like i said on the harness side there is a dead ended black wire http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc180/starmotor/Z250wiringdiagram.jpg

[Corvairkid]

http://wtmp.en.alibaba.com/ They make the cdi box's time to get some i'm trying to order 2 for my self.

[Corvairkid]

i hope these updates help people i'm talking to a china men in china who's supplied me inventory for my shop he's vary happy with these bikes (he owns 4) and said they are like a Chinese Harley they run like tops till they cough i have him on Skype on a 3 way with the parts suppler i posted in my earlier post

[Weldangrind]

Cool! How is his English?

[Corvairkid]

English was ok a but broken and confusing as to the terminology but once i learned the terminology like a "winker" is the flasher and the CDI is a ignitor so-forth and so one any ways its 60 USD for a cdi with DHL shipping expedited 7-10 day shipping

i talked with wtmp and best to there knowledge ZS ly200 cdi WILL work with a zs250GS.....

[Corvairkid]

after reviewing the logs of the the convo i found out they are going to make an ali express listing for cdi box's on www.aliexpress.com that meens factory direct CD box's for us [/url]

[Corvairkid]

http://wtmp.en.alibaba.com/product/288642255-218591558/motorcycle_parts_ignitor_for_zhongshen250.html here you are 250cc cdi box for zonghen

[Weldangrind]

Thanks! That'll be good info for someone with a ZS250GS down the road.

[Corvairkid]

my new break pads just showed up

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180941932124?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649


looks like a perfect fit

[SpudRider]

I'm glad you found a CDI unit for your ZS250GS. :) Please keep us updated concerning how well it works for you.

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

hey spud i got a question concerning the green and white wire off the trigger coil if it suppose to go to a common ground string or on its own to the cdi box all the diagrams i found have it going from A to B with out connecting to any other grounds

[SpudRider]

I can't tell you, Kid. :? The CDI unit for my Zongshen 200GY-2 is an AC-CDI unit, and is wired differently than yours. I suggest you follow the lead coming from the pickup coil, and see where it connects. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

i followed both ends and one goes to the ground wiring the other right to the cdi but on both ac and cd the 8 pin skim shows the cdi having its own wires to the cdi no common grounds i was told the ly200 box would work on a 250gs any one tried by chance?

[SpudRider]

The original, stock CDI unit for my ZS200GY-2 was an LY200 CDI. However, it was an AC-CDI unit. Apparently, the LY200 CDI is available in both AC and DC versions. Here's a link to an LY200 CDI unit I found on Taobao.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.tBvYAD&id=20011299305

This is a DC-CDI unit, and it is supposed to work for your ZS250GS motorcycle. You should order the CDI-ZS067-002 shown in the link above.

My ZS200GY-2 motorcycle is now using a CDI-ZS067-001 unit, which is the AC version. I don't know why, but the AC version is over twice as expensive as your DC version. :roll:

http://img04.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i4/276566934/T2_krHXcdXXXXXXXXX_!!276566934.jpg

Spud :)

[SpudRider]

Have you confirmed the ZS250GS wiring diagram is correct for your bike? Does you bike employ a DC-CDI unit, as shown in the wiring diagram?

Spud :)

[SpudRider]

i followed both ends and one goes to the ground wiring the other right to the cdi but on both ac and cd the 8 pin skim shows the cdi having its own wires to the cdi no common grounds i was told the ly200 box would work on a 250gs any one tried by chance?
The two wires from the pickup coil connect to two, separate connectors on the wiring harness for my ZS200GY-2 motorcycle. However, these wires disappear into the wiring loom, so I don't know if the ground wire is common. In any event, I don't think it makes any difference; a ground wire is a ground wire. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

i keep finding different wiring diagrams for my bike i'm up to 3 now.... but i'm willing to try

[SpudRider]

i keep finding different wiring diagrams for my bike i'm up to 3 now.... but i'm willing to try
Turn on the ignition key, and make sure the engine kill switch is in the "run" position. Get a digital multimeter, and set it to measure 12V DC. Then connect the negative probe of the digital multimeter to ground. One wire at a time, connect the positive probe of the digital multimeter to all of the wires in the harness connecting to the CDI unit. If one of the wires measures 12V+, your ZS250GS has a DC-CDI unit. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

and if not...

[SpudRider]

and if not...
If not, then you have an AC-CDI unit. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

*beats his head on the brick wall's of insanity) my battery's dead.............

[SpudRider]

*beats his head on the brick wall's of insanity) my battery's dead.............
You've got to replace the battery before you can test the CDI wiring. ;) What size battery is now installed? I would guess a YTZ7S battery will work well in your Zong, if the dimensions are correct. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

haaaa i got jumper cables attached to a deep cycle RV battery so i have plenty of juice to keep working with for testing but yes i need to buy a battery i have a 2ed that's been on charge i'm waiting on its all most finished

[Corvairkid]

ITS AC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! i found the old box in a box of box's of crap i got wit hthe deal.... mostly base ball cards... thats or the pawn shop.... but its AC!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/942212_10151435847708811_2031326992_n.jpg


its a zs067-001

[SpudRider]

Okay. ;) Click the following link to download the Zongshen 200GY-2 Service Manual.

http://www.chinariders.net/transfer/spudrider_01-09-2010_123552_LZX200GY-2EC-Service_Manual.pdf

Page 132 of the service manual contains the wiring diagram for the CDI-ZS067-001, AC-CDI unit. The green/white and blue/yellow wires come from the pickup coil/pulse generator, and should connect to the wiring harness in a small boot near the carburetor. You can test the connections there, or you can locate the green/white and blue/yellow wires at the connector which plugs into the CDI unit.

Set your digital multimeter to read AC voltage. Place one probe on each of the two wires, it doesn't matter which one. With the transmission in neutral, crank the engine, and see if you get pulses of AC voltage coming from the pickup coil/pulse generator. If you do, you have confirmed your bike employs an AC-CDI unit. ;)

All of the AC-CDI units cost about 100 Yuan, after you add local shipping. Here are links to a few of the CDI-ZS067-001, AC-CDI units.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.127.MpFQZe&id=18041577178

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.9.SBQZDy&id=20011311269

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.7.kUd4KK&id=6110384132

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.kUd4KK&id=6320155790

Here is the same, AC-CDI unit, which is being sold on Alibaba.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/288757805/motorcyclw_Digital_igniter_for_LY200_AC.html

Spud :)

[SpudRider]

If your testing proves you have an AC-CDI unit, I suggest you buy the CDI units from Taobao, using TBTrends as an agent. I contacted Alibaba, and they are charging $60 per unit, delivered. 8O You can get these CDI units for about half that price if you buy them from Taobao. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

yes e bay is 60 bucks as well but it beats 300 for a yamaha.......

[Corvairkid]

at lest every time i turn a screw i dont break something................. count be worse i guess

[SpudRider]

The following CDI unit is priced at 88 Yuan, with a domestic shipping charge of 10 Yuan, equaling a final price of 98 Yuan. At the current exchange rate, 98 Yuan is equal to $15.95 in U.S. dollars (USD).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.127.MpFQZe&id=18041577178

Sign up for an account at TBTrends.

http://www.tbtrends.com/index.php

The TBTrends agent will charge you a 10 percent fee for every item you order. He will order the CDI units, and any other items you wish to buy, and have them delivered to his office. Then he will place all the items you purchased in one package, and quote you a shipping charge from China.

You will be charged approximately $23.60 in shipping for the first 500 grams (1.1 pounds) sent from China. However, you will only be charged approximately $7.38 in shipping for each additional 500 grams (1.1 pounds) shipped from China.

I think 2 CDI units will probably weigh less than 500 grams. Therefore, you could buy 2 CDI units for approximately $60, delivered. If you decide to order other items from Taobao, your shipping charges would be spread out and reduced for each additional item. ;)

Go to Taobao.com and use the search term "zs250gs" to see what other items you might wish to purchase.

http://s.taobao.com/search?q=zs250gs&searcy_type=item&s_from=newHeader&source=&ssid=s5-e&search=y&initiative_id=itemz_20130508

If you need some cables, plastic, sprockets, brake pads, levers, tool kit, et cetera, you will get very good prices. :) These items don't weigh much, and won't cost much in additional shipping charges. Also, these small, robust items are not easily damaged in shipping. ;) Even if you decide only to purchase 2 CDI units, you will still get them for half the price charged by either Alibaba or eBay. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

say it with me SAAAA.....WWWEEAT!

[humanbeing]

There's 2 maker of that CDI : XFD / HCE. HCE had better QC, many stock domestic made Honda are fitted with their product.

[Corvairkid]

thank human i found my stamping its an HCE

[Weldangrind]

There's 2 maker of that CDI : XFD / HCE. HCE had better QC, many stock domestic made Honda are fitted with their product.

That's excellent information! Humanbeing, can you provide a link to the page where you translate several common motorcycle parts? I thought I bookmarked it, but I can't find it. It's very helpful for shopping TaoBao.

[SpudRider]

There's 2 maker of that CDI : XFD / HCE. HCE had better QC, many stock domestic made Honda are fitted with their product.
Thank you, HumanBeing! All of the CDI units I have purchased have been manufactured by HCE. :D

Also, the link for the CDI unit I provided shows this part is an official, Zongshen part. ;) Humanbeing has warned us of many copycat parts manufactured in China, and recommends we search for official Zongshen parts whenever possible. ;)

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.127.MpFQZe&id=18041577178

http://img03.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i3/276566934/T28oSnXjXcXXXXXXXX_!!276566934.jpg

http://img04.taobaocdn.com/imgextra/i4/276566934/T2_krHXcdXXXXXXXXX_!!276566934.jpg

Spud :)

[SpudRider]

Here's another tip, Kid. ;) At $16 apiece, I strong suggest you purchase at least three of these CDI units, perhaps a few more. Even the HCE units will fail. I average around 12,000 miles before one of my HCE CDI units fails. :(

However, a major contributing factor to the failure rate of my CDI units is vibration. Riding off road subjects a dual sport motorcycle to punishing vibration which can accelerate the wear of many parts, especially electronic parts such as CDI units.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2012%20Rides/July/oxpeaksingleride038.jpg

Fortunately, your ZS250GS is a street bike, so your HCE CDI units might last longer than mine. ;)

Spud :)

[Corvairkid]

well the guy that got the bike new and gave it to me said it acted up at 4000 miles and died just shy of the 5000k on it now the last 20 miles on it was put on it by me walking it home from his back yard where i found it (no truck =( ) but i ordered 2 cdi's and a choke cable since mine is sized up tight i cant even lube it

[humanbeing]

...provide a link to the page where you translate several common motorcycle parts?
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?2857&p=21805&viewfull=1#post21805

[Weldangrind]

...provide a link to the page where you translate several common motorcycle parts?
http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?2857&p=21805&viewfull=1#post21805

You're the man. 8)

[Corvairkid]

ok new cdi's and choke cable are on the way TB trends moves fast dont they (i put mine in the vice and attached it to my 12V wench and pulled it part trying to UN-seize it) but lets see how long EMS takes to get it to me maybe i should pay for DHL

[Corvairkid]

how long does processing take normally with tb trends?

[Weldangrind]

It depends upon how much you order. My two orders have both had a bunch of items, so it took them a couple of weeks to assemble everything and photograph it for me. That said, when they shipped my first box on a Wednesday, DHL delivered it on Friday. Yep, two days!

[SpudRider]

how long does processing take normally with tb trends?
The items listed at Taobao come from a variety of vendors. If you order a lot of parts the different items will usually come from a number of different vendors. In this case, the TBTrends agent must wait for all the different vendors to ship the items to him, and this process delays the final shipment to the buyer. If you just order a few items, the shipment from China will be much faster.

Spud

[Corvairkid]

i only got 2 cd's and a choke cable from master zou

[Corvairkid]

It depends upon how much you order. My two orders have both had a bunch of items, so it took them a couple of weeks to assemble everything and photograph it for me. That said, when they shipped my first box on a Wednesday, DHL delivered it on Friday. Yep, two days!

wow DHL i love DHL they all ways call me before showing up so much better then USPS i order and sell a lot of leds and led kits

[Corvairkid]

my head lights arrived what do ya think?


https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/919849_10151438596333811_423244380_o.jpg

[humanbeing]

i only got 2 cd's and a choke cable from master zou
Which shop? Master Zou logo means they're authorized service agent ONLY. http://www.zongshenmotor.com/Company/service_zuo.aspx?id=16

[Corvairkid]

wont load in English

[Corvairkid]

wut i got was 2 of these http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18041577178&spm=2014.12001318.0.0

and 1 of these http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20321755709&spm=2014.12001318.0.0

[SpudRider]

Your headlight looks nice. :)

Spud :)

[humanbeing]

wut i got was 2 of these...
1st link = http://rate.taobao.com/user-rate-276566934.htm /From NE China which is 1,900+ miles from the TB Trends (S China).
2nd link = http://rate.taobao.com/user-rate-924351009.htm /SAME city (SW China/ ~950 miles from TB trends) as Zongshen HQ located.
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Distance isn't that important if pays more to via air http://sf-express.com/ BUT "std" means via "ground".

[Corvairkid]

yea i dont speak Chinese so i'm flying blind with translator programs to figure out what i'm looking at on taobao.com

[Corvairkid]

just noticed the break lever is bent

[humanbeing]

yea i dont speak Chinese so i'm flying blind ...
You're not alone. Many foreigner knows how to speak the "std" language BUT can't read a word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_Chinese
---
My oral Chinese fluently is in this order Longdu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longdu_dialect) > Cantonese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese) > Hokkien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkien) > Mandarin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese)
Read /Write skill: Modern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_vernacular_Chinese) > Classical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Chinese) > Cantonese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_Cantonese) > Hokkien (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_Hokkien)

[Corvairkid]

so i'm cleaning and polishing and waiting on my parts to come and i fell the wind shift i look up an WHAM!!!! rain coming down in 5 gal buckets!!!!!

[Corvairkid]

yea tbtrends updated from processing to ordered!!!! WOOTWOOOOO..... ok i'm board can you tell.......


Order Status:
Ordered

[Weldangrind]

They are so fast! My latest shipment was sent by mail (instead of DHL), and it was about a week. I've never had anything from China arrive in less than two weeks before.

[Corvairkid]

i order leds from china all the time i get stuff in about 3-5 dys with dhl because I'm on the east coast but with the EMS service its 2-3 weeks and USPS is the biggest delay

[Corvairkid]

just check my e-mail they verified my part numbers and web sited as i left the S out of CDI-ZS067-001.....

[Corvairkid]

well its been a week and still no word back from TB about my order i sent them an e-mail this morning asking for a status update

[SpudRider]

well its been a week and still no word back from TB about my order i send them an e-mail this morning asking for a status update
In my experience, TBTrends is very good about answering emails and giving status reports. :)

[Corvairkid]

well 24 hours later no response i wonder if its a Holiday over there....

[Weldangrind]

Not sure, but I know that it can take a day or two for a response. As well, it takes up to two weeks (IME) for them to receive and organize everything you ordered.

I went over the top with my last shipment, and the shipping was quite high. I simply asked if there was a less expensive alternative, and they shipped it by EMS (China's mail service), and it took about a week. I saved about $20 in the process.

Their service has been excellent for me.

[Corvairkid]

ok just checking that everything is normal in the experience process when i use aliexpress i get 5 days for it to reach IMS then 2 more weeks to get to me but i get tracking numbers all that good stuff normally

[Weldangrind]

I've never used Aliexpress; can you tell us more about the process?

[Corvairkid]

you make an account search for what you want and buy it kind of like eBay with out the biding but you can chat with the "store clerk" if they have there trad manager on i've use it to find lights and then talked to the store own and had special orders placed with the factory the store represents and had great success now i notice its more expensive then taobao but every one on ali speaks english...sorta its better then taobao's english

[Corvairkid]

also any thing you buy the money goes in to an escrow account and the supplier does not get paid till you confirm the goods have arrived and in good shape

[Corvairkid]

i wouldn't mind having one of these land in my lap

http://www.3wheel-motorcycle.com/uploadfile/201301/20130121160913339.jpg

[humanbeing]

also any thing you buy the money goes in to an escrow account and the supplier does not get paid till you confirm the goods have arrived and in good shape
Same as taobao.com

[Weldangrind]

i wouldn't mind having one of these land in my lap

http://www.3wheel-motorcycle.com/uploadfile/201301/20130121160913339.jpg

Humanbeing, what is the model designation for these? I would like to look at parts on Taobao, but I don't know what to search for.

[Corvairkid]

i dont know it was a random advertisement for Chinese bikes but its made by Huajun Motor Tricycle Manufacturing Co http://www.3wheel-motorcycle.com/

[humanbeing]

Humanbeing, what is the model designation for these? I would like to look at parts on Taobao, but I don't know what to search for.
Search "三轮" (3 wheel) + terms in that mychinamoto.com list

[Weldangrind]

Search "三轮" (3 wheel) + terms in that mychinamoto.com list

Thanks! I searched for 摩托车 倒档 器 and found what I was looking for. I want to see different styles of reverse gear that will fit on 200cc engines.

Sorry for the hijack. ;)

[Corvairkid]

hey HEY hey!!! photos and shipping confirmation sent!

[Corvairkid]

Thanks! I searched for 摩托车 倒档 器 and found what I was looking for. I want to see different styles of reverse gear that will fit on 200cc engines.

Sorry for the hijack. ;)

its ok i can see that your going for i think the casing needs to be a slight bit bigger for the R gear to fit in such a tight space

[Corvairkid]

i paid the Extra shipping for the Express mail service over hong kong post.... last few things from HKP i got took FOREVER to get here!!! at one point i had to be reminded 12 times zones worth of space is 8000+ miles and both the HKP and USPS are slow government regulated employes

[humanbeing]

... shipped it by EMS (China's mail service), and it took about a week...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_mail

[Corvairkid]

ok status changed to paid and shipped i think they are trying for DHL since i asked about it i really like DHL my local office calls me before trying to deliver to make sure i'm home or at the office at work

[Weldangrind]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_mail

I had no idea. Thank you.

[Weldangrind]

ok status changed to paid and shipped i think they are trying for DHL since i asked about it i really like DHL my local office calls me before trying to deliver to make sure i'm home or at the office at work

If it actually goes by DHL, it won't take long.

[Corvairkid]

wonder if ill get a tracking number....

[Corvairkid]

minus the time delay for an answer the forums are fun....

[SpudRider]

wonder if ill get a tracking number....

minus the time delay for an answer the forums are fun....
Was that a question? ;)

When I purchased from TBTrends my shipment was sent via DHL, and I got a tracking number. :)

[Corvairkid]

no wasnt a question i was just wondering out loud sorta

[SpudRider]

That's what I figured. ;)

[Corvairkid]

you know Ive been looking at tired and where i'm at, kind of an on/off road area and i want something meaty..er but nothing in a duel sport in a 140/70-17 and110/70/17

[SpudRider]

You shouldn't have problems finding a 17-inch knobby tire for the rear wheel. You might be able to choose one of the narrower rear tires for the front wheel as well. This is a topic worthy of its own thread. ;)

[Corvairkid]

You shouldn't have problems finding a 17-inch knobby tire for the rear wheel. You might be able to choose one of the narrower rear tires for the front wheel as well. This is a topic worthy of its own thread. ;)

made one =)

[SpudRider]

made one =)
:tup:

[Corvairkid]

i got my tracking number woot wooo 7258998025

[Corvairkid]

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA my packed time travels!!!!
Saturday, May 25, 2013 Location Time
5 Customs status updated CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 22:09

Sunday, May 26, 2013 Location Time
4 Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 04:48

3 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 04:41

Saturday, May 25, 2013 Location Time
2 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 21:54

1 Shipment picked up HONG KONG - HONG KONG 18:33

[Weldangrind]

My wife skipped right over her birthday when she flew to Thailand. I keep trying to tell her that makes her a year younger than me, but she's not buying it.

[Corvairkid]

WOOHOOO DHL in on the prowl!!! ill have my cid by end of day if not for Mondays day off i would have had them yesterday!

[Weldangrind]

In my case, they tried to deliver to my house when nobody was home. I believe they try two more times, and then you have to pick it up at the depot. The nearest depot is over an hour away.

Thankfully, I was home for the second attempt.

[Corvairkid]

i got it coming to work so i know ill be here to get it i thought ahead on that one!

[Corvairkid]

*INHALES DEEPLY* i love the smell of new parts in the morning!....smells like... rubber~ :}

[Corvairkid]

well nothing was bagged in Zong bags or box's but its all looks official HCE box's and the cable had the part number stamp on it hang on and ill see if they work tonight!

[SpudRider]

We eagerly await your update, Kid. :)

[Corvairkid]

10 at night just now getting off work............ all my roommates are gone and the naiborges are gone for the summer time to get to work!!!!

[Corvairkid]

the new cdi box's look like this

[Corvairkid]

I got spark!!!!!!!

[SpudRider]

Excellent! :clap: I'm glad you verified your ZS250GS employs an AC-CDI unit. :tup: I wonder if anyone has an accurate wiring diagram for this bike? The only wiring diagram I found for the ZS250GS shows the bike using a DC-CDI unit. :wtf:

[Corvairkid]

WELL STILL not running =( little poofs of white smoke but no real bang or kick not even a stumble..

[bogieboy]

WELL STILL not running =( little poofs of white smoke but no real bang or kick not even a stumble..

smokes coming from the exhaust right? LOL thats a good sign, youre getting close....

[Corvairkid]

yep now i think my issues ib the carb i'm taking it off and checking for fuel flow 11:37pm

[bogieboy]

yep now i think my issues ib the carb i'm taking it off and checking for fuel flow 11:37pm

have you tried starter fluid? would be a good indicator if it pops over on starter fluid that theres a carb issue...

[Corvairkid]

no i dont have any but i primed the chamber with some gas and put the plug back in as well as shot some fule in to the intake side and got nothing but its late and i might be missing something ill see in the morning its shower time and food time i'm es-static (yes pun intended) and shocked (again) to have spark back!

[bogieboy]

no i dont have any but i primed the chamber with some gas and put the plug back in as well as shot some fule in to the intake side and got nothing but its late and i might be missing something ill see in the morning its shower time and food time i'm es-static (yes pun intended) and shocked (again) to have spark back!

:doh::doh: real punny...:lmao:

[SpudRider]

Now that you have spark, the problem must reside in one of these other areas. ;)

Compression
Air
Fuel

I suggest you check compression first. If compression is low, check the valve lash before you check elsewhere. ;)

[Corvairkid]

will do i'll have to get some fellers

[SpudRider]

will do i'll have to get some fellers
I use these feeler gauges, which I bought from Harbor Freight. :)

http://www.harborfreight.com/32-piece-sae-metric-feeler-gauge-32214.html

The valve lash for your ZS250GS is probably the same as for my Zong. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=4539

[Corvairkid]

just looked at them and a Compression tester doe 20 bucks... any luck with them?

[SpudRider]

just looked at them and a Compression tester doe 20 bucks... any luck with them?
Yes, I also own the Harbor Freight Compression Tester. It does a good job. :tup:

http://www.harborfreight.com/quick-connect-compression-tester-95187.html

You might enjoy reading the following thread. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=5298

[bogieboy]

just looked at them and a Compression tester doe 20 bucks... any luck with them?

I have a harbor frieght comp tester, works great, but i dont onow if it will fit the chinese/honda size spark plugs... I know i cant use it on my honda 75...unless the make an adapter for it that i dont know about...LOLthen again im not sure what size plug your bike uses...

[SpudRider]

just looked at them and a Compression tester doe 20 bucks... any luck with them?
Does you bike use a D8EA spark plug? If so, the HF compression tester I recommended will work fine. :)

[Corvairkid]

well bummer i get up bright and early and have no spark again.... or we i can see by my tester almost no spark its vary week i'm thinking bad coil at this point

[Corvairkid]

after some more poking i have intermittent spark and its not the strongest but on the off chance i do get a hot spark every 4 or 5 spark like the coils not building up

[bogieboy]

after some more poking i have intermittent spark and its not the strongest but on the off chance i do get a hot spark every 4 or 5 spark like the coils not building up

sounds like you might have a bad ground to me... or a bad coil, or a bad stator...

[Corvairkid]

stator checks out the coils iffy at best it sat in the weather unused for 2-3 years also yea the grounds could be cleaned but i got a new universal high performance coil so i'm going to try that at lunch

[Weldangrind]

A different coil is the fastest way to troubleshoot a coil, but you can also break down your original coil for testing. If you peel back the rubber boot (where the plug wire meets the coil), you can unscrew the wire from the coil body; you can also unscrew the plug wire from the plug cap in the same manner.

Expect to see around 5K on the plug cap, 4-5 ohms on the plug wire and around 5 ohms between the positive and negative terminals of the coil. Those numbers are close enough to tell you if the coil assembly is in good shape.

Jim brought his quad to my place when he first got it, and he had a bad coil. I found a new coil assembly in my parts bin, but it had a bad plug end. I was able to make one good coil out of two.

[Corvairkid]

it failed....
no resistance at all except the wire or no continuance depending on how i hook it to the meter

[SpudRider]

You can find the resistance testing specifications for all the electrical components in the TW200 Service Manual, which is available for download in the Zong Sticky. ;)

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=34762fb5761dc247f55c8a8e247c5fb4&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2Fshowthread. php%3Ft%3D6051&v=1&libId=383143ec-752a-4cc5-945a-5090ff001ba9&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2F%3F34muedntyx z&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2Fforumdispla y.php%3Ff%3D101&title=Zongshen%20Sierra%20200GY-2%20Modifications%20%26%20Maintenance%20-%20ChinaRiders%20Forums&txt=Yamaha%20TW200%20Service%20Manual%20(PDF)&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13698485621016

I'm confident your ignition coil is identical to the coil in my ZS200GY-2. You can get either ignition coil from either Taobao or Zongshen America. ;)

[Corvairkid]

oddly i was able to get a coil locally but its a uni coil for 50cc-300cc single cylinder motorcycles (looks the same just orange/red in color) the box also boast better performance then most stock units

[SpudRider]

oddly i was able to get a coil locally but its a uni coil for 50cc-300cc single cylinder motorcycles (looks the same just orange/red in color) the box also boast better performance then most stock units
That's great! :tup: Does the coil mount well in the same location? If you have time, please post photos and a part number for the ignition coil. I'm sure your fellow Zongites would love to know this information! :)

[Corvairkid]

sure thing i'll UN-screw it all (i all ready assembled the spark plug wire, boot and plug) and do a tort on a new thread

[SpudRider]

sure thing i'll UN-screw it all (i all ready assembled the spark plug wire, boot and plug) and do a tort on a new thread
That's very gracious of you, but you don't have to undo your work. ;) If you post photographs of the repair, that's great! :tup: Also, please tell us the part number, and where you bought the coil. :)

[Corvairkid]

well i got the coil at cycle goodies a local motorcycle shop for 10-300cc bikes and on request he can get bigger stuff for bigger bikes but he stocks tires and all kids of stuff oddly no web site just a mom and pop type shop next to my local hardware store not really shut the part number either it was a blank white box (i assume Chinese made generic) this looks like the one i got
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140985623858?hlp=false

[SpudRider]

That's okay. ;) Thanks for the link, Kid. :)

[Corvairkid]

well no spark again...... and now i'm getting a really week signal to the coil from the cdi... the stator and voltage regulator kicks out 8.5 while cranking at low rpms on the 12V on the trigger side i'm geting .03 .05 .08 ish area

[SpudRider]

well no spark again...... and now i'm getting a really week signal to the coil from the cdi... the stator and voltage regulator kicks out 8.5 while cranking at low rpms on the 12V on the trigger side i'm geting .03 .05 .08 ish area
Although it's possible, I doubt your new CDI unit is bad. I suggest you download the TW200 Service Manual, and check the resistance values for the stator and pickup coil. ;)

[bogieboy]

also keep in mind that the voltage supplied to trigger the coil os only around 20Milliseconds per revolution, where as the charge circuit is powering all the time... most digital multimeters have a hard time accurately reading voltages at that short of a timeframe...

[Corvairkid]

well no luck can some one take a photo of there cdi plug on the wiring harness and show me the color code set up i want to make sure no one else tried to rewire it before me

[Corvairkid]

also i'm not getting any 12V out of the box or to the ignition coil somethings dead wrong here

[Weldangrind]

I can take a pic of the CDI wires on a Honda clone if you like, but I suspect they won't be the same. Can you show us a pic of what you have now?

[SpudRider]

well no luck can some one take a photo of there cdi plug on the wiring harness and show me the color code set up i want to make sure no one else tried to rewire it before me
Here's a color wiring diagram for the AC-CDI unit employed by my Zongshen 200GY-2.

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/cromiro/294355633_o.jpg

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff466/cromiro/zong200cc.jpg

This wiring diagram was created by forum member Azriel, and is posted in the following thread. :)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=8576

I have not had time to verify this wiring diagram is correct. ;)

[Corvairkid]

i think all my wires in the harness are backeards to this......... it was sent a long time ago to a chop shop macanic and to the best of my knowledge it wasn't messed with but it ll looks backwards to mine.... ill check after work today

[Corvairkid]

nope all's good on the wiring there...... still no detectable spark.........the only thing i havnt replaced is the stator or rotor

[Corvairkid]

funny thing is i had spark then 30 sec later no spark from either new box

..... i'm at a lose as to what it is now

[Corvairkid]

i'm wondering if my rotor is bad when i had the cover off the trigger magnet didn't have much pull to it but the coil had a lot of pull.....

[Weldangrind]

Spud, this all feels very familiar. We have a member who has a bike like yours, and I think he lives in Central America. He had a similar symptom, IIRC. Can you recall who that was?

[Weldangrind]

Found it. Maybe this will help: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=12072&highlight=zong+start

[SpudRider]

Found it. Maybe this will help: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=12072&highlight=zong+start
That thread proves that the least expensive, fastest way to fix the problem is to methodically test all the components according to the TW200 Service Manual. ;)

Kid, I suggest you download the TW200 Service Manual from the link I provided. Then test the stator and pickup coil for the proper resistance values. Make sure all electrical connections are secure. Also, check for a good electrical ground. :)

[Corvairkid]

yea i checked the Tw book and tested it ageist my stator and got the proper ohms of resistance with in spec 850-1100ohms depending on weather or not I'm cranking the bike or not the TW book didn't give a trigger voltage tho

[Corvairkid]

ive tested every thing i get an input signal all the way from the pick up to the cdi i then get a extremely low voltage out of the cdi to the ignition coil........ 1.2V 2.2V .5V nothing consistent and its same in AC or DC testing

[SpudRider]

yea i checked the Tw book and tested it ageist my stator and got the proper ohms of resistance with in spec 850-1100ohms depending on weather or not I'm cranking the bike or not the TW book didn't give a trigger voltage tho
Measure the resistance values when the engine is cold. You don't make any measurements while cranking the engine. ;) Here are the resistance values from the TW200 and XT225 Service Manuals.

Electrical System Resistance Values

Spark plug cap resistance:
Both Yamaha manuals specifiy 10K Ohms

Ignition coil resistance:
Primary Coil: Yamaha XT225 manual specifies 0.56 to 0.84 Ohms
Secondary Coil: Yamaha XT225 manual specifies 5.68K to 8.52K Ohms

Pickup/Pulse Coil Resistance:
Both Yamaha manuals specify 656 to 984 Ohms

Exciter/Charge Coil Resistance:
Yamaha XT225 Manual specifies 584 to 876 Ohms

I suggest you measure the stator/exciter coil resistance once again while the engine is cold. The resistance value you reported seems a bit high. Also, the pickup coil has been know to fail for the TW200 motorcycles. ;)

[Corvairkid]

ok ill try at lunch and btw spud your right accreditation so over rated
looks like the animal i saw under the cover..... http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?spm=a1z10.1.w1004-1641236627.12.Yc72bD&depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://item.taobao.com/item.htm%3Fid%3D22050908627&usg=ALkJrhjTsHf4MPxYaB9F1wIK7qEpnToXOQ
good news is it looks like the rotor is the same AC or DC http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?spm=a1z10.3.w1017-1641236655.49.LCuofk&depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://item.taobao.com/item.htm%3Fid%3D18566703426%26&usg=ALkJrhiXwO4o7aqSf6-68svCEbzjDhRjcQ

[SpudRider]

ok ill try at lunch and btw spud your right accreditation so over rated
looks like the animal i saw under the cover..... http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?spm=a1z10.1.w1004-1641236627.12.Yc72bD&depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://item.taobao.com/item.htm%3Fid%3D22050908627&usg=ALkJrhjTsHf4MPxYaB9F1wIK7qEpnToXOQ
good news is it looks like the rotor is the same AC or DC http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?spm=a1z10.3.w1017-1641236655.49.LCuofk&depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://item.taobao.com/item.htm%3Fid%3D18566703426%26&usg=ALkJrhiXwO4o7aqSf6-68svCEbzjDhRjcQ
Yes, that's the correct stator and pickup coil. :) I really don't think you are having any problems with your flywheel (rotor). ;)

[Corvairkid]

so i took the plunge (since i got nothing better to do then play with a tinker toy set) and ordered a set of coils and a rotor might as well re place the wiring harness while I'm at it :P jk but this time i know ill have an ac stator ac box AC coil's all AC i will make this bike run if its the last thing that runs over me!

[Corvairkid]

Yes, that's the correct stator and pickup coil. :) I really don't think you are having any problems with your flywheel (rotor). ;)

meh it sat a round a long time and god knows what it went thru before hand if i'm going to swap it might as well swap all of it i need to find some torque figures now i think the TW book has some you showed me

[SpudRider]

meh it sat a round a long time and god knows what it went thru before hand if i'm going to swap it might as well swap all of it i need to find some torque figures now i think the TW book has some you showed me
If you decide to change the flywheel, you are going to need a flywheel puller and a flywheel holder. ;)

Indeed, I suggest you study the TW200 Service Manual. It explains all the tools needed, the procedure to follow, and the torque specifications for each bolt. :)

[Corvairkid]

i got the pullers and the holders all ready there main stays for pulling aircraft charging systems
but yea i need to see the book and study it

[Corvairkid]

and fyi a good leather belt and a strong grip makes a good fly wheel holder in a pinch

[Corvairkid]

soooo i come to find my flywheel puller dosnt fit my bike... joy.... any one happen to know what size it is off hand?

[SpudRider]

and fyi a good leather belt and a strong grip makes a good fly wheel holder in a pinch
Thanks for sharing the good tip. :)

[SpudRider]

soooo i come to find my flywheel puller dosnt fit my bike... joy.... any one happen to know what size it is off hand?
Yes, read post #45 in the following thread. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=12285&highlight=flywheel+puller&page=3

[Corvairkid]

thanks spud we need assemble a crash kit book on all this ie build a better zong service manual

[SpudRider]

Most of your ZS250GS engine is identical to the engine in my ZS200GY-2. ;) Therefore, a lot of the threads in the "Zong Sticky" also apply to your bike, Kid. :)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6051

[Corvairkid]

hey good looking out, i was coming to that conclusion but i was a bit slower to the punch i see i was going to start asking about head light wiring since the chump cut the damn plug off the harness.....

[SpudRider]

hey good looking out, i was coming to that conclusion but i was a bit slower to the punch i see i was going to start asking about head light wiring since the chump cut the damn plug off the harness.....
Download the LZX200GY-2, European Service Manual for my Zong. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/files/LZX200GY-2EC-Service_Manual.pdf

The wiring diagram is at the end of the manual. If your bike is wired the same way as mine, you will have all the information you need. ;)

[Corvairkid]

yep A++ on the wiring its my bike go figure i also found out the service manual i have is for a DC bike...... how the hell do you ship out AC bikes with DC manuals

[Corvairkid]

hay check this out if any one can make head and tails of the broken English from the translator you might get a high performance cdi box http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.209.kvS1mA&id=24656356142

[SpudRider]

yep A++ on the wiring its my bike go figure i also found out the service manual i have is for a DC bike...... how the hell do you ship out AC bikes with DC manuals
It is a Chinese bike. :hmm:

:lol:

[SpudRider]

hay check this out if any one can make head and tails of the broken English from the translator you might get a high performance cdi box http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.209.kvS1mA&id=24656356142
I bet that is a DC-CDI unit, used in other countries. ;)

[Corvairkid]

its like the english speaking country's got the AC box and every one else got the EZ dc box

[Corvairkid]

I bet that is a DC-CDI unit, used in other countries. ;)

it says something about ac wiring in the description of how to rewire the bike but if it is DC i assume a DC stator swap and you should be good to go with a few minor adjustments of the wiring harness if that

2, inductive ignition flame way down are used, such as your car is grounded flameout original way (AC CDI), in order to retain this feature, you can put PC + (blue / white) received a shutdown switch (black / white) to (shown in dotted lines).

i haven't seen any dotted lines but i bet a wiring diagram is sent with it but i would also be sure to ask for one

[Corvairkid]

customs had fun with my rotor DHL left a note on the tracking site the magnets messed up their X ray equipment HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA they had to open the box for inspection what i wouldn't have given to see the look on the customs officers face when his X ray blinked out!

[Weldangrind]

customs had fun with my rotor DHL left a note on the tracking site the magnets messed up their X ray equipment HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA they had to open the box for inspection what i wouldn't have given to see the look on the customs officers face when his X ray blinked out!

Son of Weldangrind and I had a good laugh over that! :lmao:

[Corvairkid]

IT LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #$%@$% %^#*!@ IT LIVES!!!!! I EVEN GOT A SHOT OF FIRE OUT OF THE EXHAUST LIKE A DRAGONS BREATH BEFORE IT POPPED OFF AND RAN!!!!
http://youtu.be/ANk8xlsp1pQ

[SpudRider]

:yay:

[Corvairkid]

i had to rebuild the whole electrical system but i got it!!! now tonight i reassemble the rest of the bike and play with it!

[Corvairkid]

its fantastic we came to the conclusion your LY200 parts FIT my zs250!!!! good old chevro... i mean zongshen

[SpudRider]

I'm glad to know your ZS250GS has basically the same electrical system as my Zongshen 200GY-2. :) Also, you engine is almost identical to mine, except for the slightly larger piston, cylinder, and cylinder head. :tup:

If you have time, please post photographs of your carburetor. I wonder if it is similar to mine. ;)

[Corvairkid]

i have a mv30p carb i really want to swap for a slightly larger makuni something like 33mm or 35mm but not sure if i want a square slide i remember back in the day they got stuck once in a while and tats no good mon!!!

[SpudRider]

Do you have a Teikei carburetor? I have a Teikei MV28 carburetor in my Zong, and it does an excellent job. :)

[Weldangrind]

its fantastic we came to the conclusion your LY200 parts FIT my zs250!!!! good old chevro... i mean zongshen

That's exactly how I feel about most of the China bikes. The interchangeability is awesome!

What's awesome is Sandy on guitar. I love how she has to wear a diving helmet, yet they can have pyrotechnics.

Conrats on getting it running! I bought a complete Zong wiring harness for peanuts from Taobao; maybe that would help you.

[Corvairkid]

Do you have a Teikei carburetor? I have a Teikei MV28 carburetor in my Zong, and it does an excellent job. :)

YEA MV30P carb not to impressed in the design over all but it seemed to clean up and seal up so it works for the moment

[SpudRider]

That's a good carburetor. :) Personally, I would not change it. ;) My Teikei MV28 carburetor has performed flawlessly for almost 57,000 miles. My carb is virtually identical to the Teikei MV28 carburetor installed on all the recent models of the Yamaha TW200 motorcycles, except my carburetor uses a single throttle cable. Your carb is slightly larger than mine. :tup:

[Corvairkid]

yea but i've all ways been a round slide makuni fan last one i had on a Honda twin star 200 had 4 bikes on it before i got it... but I'll seer how this one does it's pretty weathered being exposed to the elements

[Corvairkid]

so i dont think the starts disengaging i have to dog on to that to night

[Corvairkid]

ok starter solved and now my lights dont work.....they did work now they dont just blinked out

[SpudRider]

Good work on the starter. :tup: I suggest you check the light switch, connections, and wiring. ;)

[Corvairkid]

well i still have no lights i think i got a bad ground becuese my tac and dash lights died as well

[Corvairkid]

also stepped on the soldering iron barefoot! my big toe has a big line on it....

[Corvairkid]

found a short or lose wire in the harness and it makes the lights on the dash blink but still no tail light...... or rear turn signals

[Corvairkid]

well i road it..... not far just around the yard but it was moving under its own power!!! then the flasher exploded like a m-80 lmao\

[SpudRider]

also stepped on the soldering iron barefoot! my big toe has a big line on it....
Always wear shoes when soldering. ;)

:lol:

[SpudRider]

well i road it..... not far just around the yard but it was moving under its own power!!! then the flasher exploded like a m-80 lmao\
Congratulations! :clap:

You can probably get a suitable replacement flasher at the local, auto parts store. Do you have a 2-prong, or 3-prong flasher?

[Corvairkid]

3 pin but one leg has 16V continues, one leg has 7.5V continues and the 3ed is the ground the flasher i was using WAS a replacement the capacitor shot out after looking in to the matter also i have a + charge running in my ground that makes my turn signals being LED slightly glow i think its part of the flasher short tho

[SpudRider]

If you bring the flasher to a local auto parts store, I'm confident they can find a good replacement unit for you. :)

[Corvairkid]

thats where i got it to begin with i need to figure out why i got 16V to the flasher thats way to much

[SpudRider]

I don't understand how you can get 16V from a 12V battery. :hmm: You shouldn't get that much voltage coming from a good regulator/rectifier (R/R), and the flasher is not even fed from the R/R, it is fed from the battery. :wtf: Are you sure your digital multimeter is working properly?

[Corvairkid]

i'm never sure its a 4.99 meter from hf lmao
but i did rebuild the harness and BTW i was getting 16V with no battery just the bike running

[Weldangrind]

Measure the battery for a baseline. That'll let you know if the meter is out of whack.

[Corvairkid]

never thought of that i used a 120V outlet set to 200AC on the meter and i got 122.3 so i'm with in 2.3 v not horrible if you figure that in you get 14.7V right on the money

[Weldangrind]

Then I think you have a reg / rec problem. Try a new one.

[Corvairkid]

all ready on it

[SpudRider]

:tup:

[Corvairkid]

i got taobao down to a science i fell as if i speak Chinese now!
i splurged and got a few other things for work and such also got some misc parts for the bike i dont feel like ducking with found a nice set of blue plastics and a tank for 500 bucks shipped oem original blue and white zs250ga racing paint job

[Corvairkid]

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22838212329&spm=2014.12001318.0.0
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22837980812&spm=2014.12001318.0.0
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15946449372&spm=2014.12001318.0.0 <-- had to get one since the oem ones dead and the replacement i got from advanced auto blew up lmao!!!
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=25853464911&spm=2014.12001318.0.0 got one left and one right! no more ducking with switches!
i also striped the tape off the harness so it could dry out and re-loomed it in black wire loom with zip tires made it look a lot nicer then the oem tape job......

the guy that gave it to me have some remorse i think he came over the just as i got it running good for the first time after adjusting the valves and carb and dileing it i enriched it up a lottle (a little of a lot) and it wants to pull the front tire off the ground now! still caped at 7.5k rpms tho i want to get a hold of the guy i got the cdis from and see if they can slip me a few track boxes for unlimited rpms! i know this brave little motor has them hidden a way in side i can feel it and some how i know i can get an adjustable cam gear in there! }=) i cant help it i love to hot rod every thing still it spits fire and melts rubber!

[SpudRider]

Another member gets Taobao fever! :lol:

[Corvairkid]

soo... i boiled my test battery......i think your right on the rec reg issues!

[Corvairkid]

HAAAHAHAHAHA the guy that gave me the bike made me an offer he said if i add up the cost of the parts and such then add what i thinks fair for labor he would buy it back from me! hahaha

[Weldangrind]

Are you gonna accept his offer?

[Corvairkid]

duck man its a hard choice i feel as if i just gave birth to a monster and now the zoo wants to show it off WTF do i do i'de want another bike now that i'm hooked again but not enough cash even witht he money from him its still not enough.... *beats his head on a wall*

[Weldangrind]

If you can't replace it, then just enjoy it for what it is.

[Corvairkid]

ok new parts are in hongkong and on the way via dhl i did use a pro's multi meter and got a solid 17.5-18V to the battery.....BAWAWAWAWaaaa i should make it a 24V diesel bike......

[SpudRider]

Keep at it, Kid! You are making good progress. :tup:

[Corvairkid]

sold it 700 bucks and the promise he would pick up my next bike for me with his truck!

[Corvairkid]

boss oked me on one of these for the shop its a 300cc water cooled zongshen built by dinghao trikes
http://hjtricycle.en.alibaba.com/product/1012729297-218436884/cargo_gas_motorcycle_scooters_with_3_wheel.html

[SpudRider]

boss oked me on one of these for the shop its a 300cc water cooled zongshen built by dinghao trikes
http://hjtricycle.en.alibaba.com/product/1012729297-218436884/cargo_gas_motorcycle_scooters_with_3_wheel.html
That's great! Please start a new thread on this trike in our Street Forum! :tup:

[katoranger]

We need more info.

[Corvairkid]

jonny No.5 needs more input..... (flips thru Google) done!

[Corvairkid]

any one know any thing about the lighting set up and the switches........ i got A head light but no high beams or flash i'm also still geting a +5V reading on the ground side i think i got a bad ground but i dont know where or if that's even the issue

[Corvairkid]

ok i got flash i hooked up one of the head lights to the flasher and it blinks so its got to be the leds not having enough amp ull to make the flasher work i need a resister

[SpudRider]

Better yet, get an LED flasher for your turn signals. ;)

http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/lf1-s-flat-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/787/842/

[Corvairkid]

i had one it blew up....

[SpudRider]

It shouldn't have blown up, Kid. You need to find the problem with your electrical wiring, and solve it, or you will continue to blow up electrical components. ;) You must have have a electrical short somewhere in your wiring.

[Corvairkid]

no i looked there i had the whole harness apart and didnt spot any issues but then again it did blow up with the bad V/R/R i was using that made 18V... that guy that got the bike from me said he really dosnt what turn signals... what ever i just need to get the hi/lo head lights working

[SpudRider]

If the regulator/rectifier is good, and the wiring is good, then you shouldn't blow a new flasher relay. ;) However, if you don't need to install one, save the money. :)

[Corvairkid]

so back to the zong i cant get it to idle and accelerate right what am i missing this time i wonder.... it will rev up then bog out like its draining the carb of fuel but not filling up

[SpudRider]

Check the needle valve in the carburetor bowl. ;)

[Corvairkid]

its clean and operating properly as far as i can tell ill pull it and see it the floats are properly adjusted maybe there to low....

[katoranger]

Make sure the tank is venting too. Try opening the fuel cap and see if it gets better.

[Corvairkid]

well i found a broken spring in the choke...... i wonder if that was the problem.... i also got a bigger hose for the fuel.... got a lot of rust powder out of the filter in the petcock valve as well...... arg it never ends

[Corvairkid]

plenty of venting with the gas cap open....

[zs250gs]

hi,
do you know, any other compatible cdi unit for zs250 gs? it is reaaly diffucult to find this 002.

thanks.

[humanbeing]

It's a big bored Yammie.
http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=13934
That CDI is AC or DC?
If have money to burn, u can re-wire it as Yammie.

[SpudRider]

hi,
do you know, any other compatible cdi unit for zs250 gs? it is reaaly diffucult to find this 002.

thanks.

Welcome; we are glad you joined us. :hi:

Do you live in the United States? Can you post a photograph of your CDI unit? Does the CDI unit have any writing on it?