What brand of Dual sport Chinese bike do you own?

[NewEnglandTrails]

With so many dual sports out there I am intrested in finding out what is the most popular. So take the Poll and keep ridin!!!! I was only allowed ten options for brand names.. so feel free to post a reply with your brand!

[ImEazy]

Mine is titled in Ohio as a 2005 John Way. Pretty much a ebay Jetmoto clone. The individual is still selling the same bike. He must have bought a ton of them.

[MOTO]

it would be cool if we could have the make & model of the bike we own listed by our name/stats/location when we post on the board...it would help put into context people's advice and recommendations...since we know, these things are not all exactly the same 8)

[maf119l]

Not a dual sport but got a Johnny Pag china built chopper.Liking it more everytime i ride it.Mileage just under 300 right now.Got to modify the seat,not nearly enough padding in seat for more than 20-30 miles at a time.

[NewEnglandTrails]

Looks like Roketa is taking the lead!!

Does that mean they have the most effective market penetration or just the most responsive to polls owners? The jury is out.. You other owners.. let us know what you own!! Post it in here if you cant figure out how to post it with your id.

New England Trails

[tzrider]

Diamo, but I'm not sure where it's sourced from. It's the OHC motor, though.

[mule3010]

I'm surprised. I would have thought Lifan would be way out in front. I applied for dealership status through Lifan, Tank and Roketa and was excepted (pursued) by all 3. Lifan had the best ad program(pay for 1/2) and the best warranty work reinbursment. but I went with Roketa for some other reasons(price,product line).
Joe

[viva2006]

Viva 2006 registered under bronc? Hey, whatever works

[blimpman]

Registered in Ohio. Easy registration thru the Dealer

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/blimpman/lifan1005.jpg

[NewEnglandTrails]

Thats a nice looking Lifan.. Blimp..

[blimpman]

Thats a nice looking Lifan.. Blimp..

Thank you, thank you... It's been fun so far.

[omega_man]

Kinroad here :D

http://www.friendshuh.com/albums/album20/wheelie2.sized.jpg

[VFRFLYER]

Omega man nice photo, looks like you have plenty of room to ride LOL
can we come to your place to ride :)

Ray

[omega_man]

hey - come on down - Las Vegas is perfect for riding this time of year!

I have a big yard if you're willing to camp (small house unfortunately) :D :lol:

[NewEnglandTrails]

Ya know...

You got that wheelie thing down... pat.. Lol.. Whats your record for distance on a wheelie in that wide open space?


NET

[omega_man]

Whats your record for distance on a wheelie in that wide open space?


:lol:

about 15 feet :lol:

Actually I suck at wheelies - I just took lots of pics while I was practicing :oops:


On the internet we are ALL wheelie gods!

[boostin]

hey nice wheelie! Are you using any clutch to get the front up?

Where is the option for viva bikes!?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h77/Amdek03/bikeseat.jpg

[omega_man]

best way to wheelie these bad boys is with weight shift and throttle - no clutch.

frankly it just doesn't have the HP to clutch a wheelie with my fat ass onboard! (280lbs dry)

my Nephew - now he wheelies with clutch - but he's twelve - and weighs about 80lbs!

me, I stand up - gas it - let the gas off while leaning forward to compress the front forks - then roll back on the gas while leaning back and up she comes!

if you can wheelie a bicycle you can wheelie this bad boy :-)
http://www.friendshuh.com/albums/album20/wheelie1_001.sized.jpg

[NewEnglandTrails]

Sorry it only allows for so many options on the poll and I cant get back in to edit it. Vote Other, and you did mention you have a Viva... Nice bike.

[culcune]

Looks like Roketa is taking the lead!!

Does that mean they have the most effective market penetration or just the most responsive to polls owners? The jury is out.. You other owners.. let us know what you own!! Post it in here if you cant figure out how to post it with your id.

New England Trails

Alpine in Yuma

My theory is that since these bikes are pretty much the same, and the Roketa has the lowest price through certain discount vendors, they will have the market penetration. Lifan grey-market dealers (i.e. T-Motorsports) are discounting their prices, too, so the actual Lifan product might give Roketa a run for the money. Funny enough, the market shifts every few months, and I feel like some sort of veteran already. If Zongshen starts selling their Sierra 200 for Lifan prices, you might see them taking over the market...

[boostin]

thanks for the info! Omegaman, do you have the overhead cam motor?

[omega_man]

Omegaman, do you have the overhead cam motor?

No idea - how would I tell?

[NewEnglandTrails]

There are lots of new owners from what I have been reading lately, So please help me keep this poll up to date by taking the Poll!!

Lets see if Lifan can take the lead or Roketa surges forward!

Thanks for participating

NET

[Akonababe]

We have two viva's VX200SX 2006 registered in Hawaii as Viva. We love our bikes. Ride hard and have FUN!!!!

[msRandi]

but who realy built all of them? and why do thay all look alike?
love from the big island

[NewEnglandTrails]

For some reason. I got the impression from a post that Culcune may have written along time ago that Viva, Alpine and Sierra were somehow all related. I may be losing my mind.. Maybe if Culcune reads this he can shed a little light.

I wonder if the Central Chinese government provides blueprints to these bikes from their bureau of industry? Because these dual sports, regardless of the brand do seem to have a cookie cutter type pattern.

NET

[culcune]

For some reason. I got the impression from a post that Culcune may have written along time ago that Viva, Alpine and Sierra were somehow all related. I may be losing my mind.. Maybe if Culcune reads this he can shed a little light.

I wonder if the Central Chinese government provides blueprints to these bikes from their bureau of industry? Because these dual sports, regardless of the brand do seem to have a cookie cutter type pattern.

NET

You have discovered the revered secret, and a spy sent from the Chinese government will asassinate you by morning.

Ok- I will try to shed some light from what I have sort of figured out. It seems that several of the brands are manufactured in Chongquing. I think that there are two big players in China; Lifan and Zongshen. I think that Lifan used to manufacture for several other brands, but has stopped to concentrate on their own line-up. Zongshen, from what I read somewhere, makes bikes for 9 different U.S.-labeled brands, although I think that figure has to be adjusted (I know that KPX no longer offer an enduro, or anything for that matter, and their bikes were manufactured by Zongshen).

I think that a couple of Chinese brands are manufactured by Zongshen as well, Shineray for one. I had been in contact with a Shineray rep a few months back who said they OEM for Terminator (Roketa), and BMX, but would not admit to Jetmoto which look nearly identical to Roketa. However, I suspect that they might buy bikes by the truckload from Zongshen, and market them as their own. Another theory is that one or more of the companies have excess manufacturing capacity, and simply slap together bikes for U.S. branded companies like Roketa or Jetmoto. Both Jetmoto and Roketa claim to have factories in China, so they would not be lying by saying they do, even if it is a corner of Zongshen.

Confused? I know I am. However, since the bikes use nearly identical parts, you don't always have to find replacements from the brand you originally bought it from.

(Alpine is a brand that is sold by Jetmoto. When I bought mine, I was told that as Jetmoto started to establish a dealer network, the dealers were complaining that the company itself was undercutting their sales via Ebay. So they came out with another brand that is really just a sticker job--the MCO and manufacturer's plate state Jetmoto as the brand. Lately, Jetmoto will not sell an Alpine from their headquarters, and state that Alpine is Raceway ATV's brand. Raceway take care of all the dealers east of the Mississippi River for Jetmoto distribution and sell Alpine on Ebay. I am pretty sure that you can no longer order Alpines from Jetmoto's headquarters in San Francisco, even though they ship them from there).

[liverchip]

Nice riding there Omega! I have wheelied my TSM(Shineray) or is it a Zongshen. Jeez...no clue. My bike has no problems getting the front up, even with my fat butt, and will break the rear loose in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th on hardpan. As Culcune can attest to, I'm always looking for places to ride and am only a short hop from Vegas down here in Apple Valley(2hrs). If I get my bikes up there, Ya'all want to do some riding?

[liverchip]

I would vote in the poll, but alas my bike is not a DS.

[PolygonFla]

I am definitely on a Zongshen. It says so right on the side of the engine.

Seriously though, I just posted some realy big close ups of an oil change and exhaust work on the Sierra 200 in the miscellaneous section. If you suspect that you have a Zongshen re-brand the engine close-ups should help identify it.

Oil change;
http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=895

Exhaust
http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=896

[cajunkym]

Diamo, 169fml ohc. bike loves to stand up tall.

[liverchip]

My motor is the same as the rest of the Lifan 200GY's posted here. 197cc pushrod type.

[Hawkwind]

Just ordered a rps hawk from Texas which will get here to Idaho in a week and a half , feeling excited since I haven't had a new enduro before! Looking forward to driving it to wrk and back (6) miles on 35 mph highway and on the way home, there all miles of old logging roads and bike trails might be late getting home for dinner! Tell the misses not to wait up!

[BARLOW]

i seem to be one of the few that got the bashan storm 250, and i love it ... only thing that has went wrong (that was not my fault) was the low beam went out

[dpl096]

Just ordered a rps hawk from Texas which will get here to Idaho in a week and a half , feeling excited since I haven't had a new enduro before! Looking forward to driving it to wrk and back (6) miles on 35 mph highway and on the way home, there all miles of old logging roads and bike trails might be late getting home for dinner! Tell the misses not to wait up!

Welcome aboard and congratulations on the purchase :tup:

[Landsvw]

Loncin wasn't mentioned as a factory in Chongqing? Some evidence points to my bike as a Beta Alp clone, with cg200 Honda clone engine (pushrod) made in a Loncin factory, for Shineray and labeled as Roketa. Can anyone shed light on Loncin?

[hertz9753]

This thread is over 9 years old. :hmm:

[BlackBike]

Yeah, everyone is gathering at this old thread so I better check in too:lmao: azhule...?

Represent class of 2016 here :hehe::hehe: there's no bashans ,hawks, tt, or rx3 to check on the poll

We may as well crack a beer while we're here, happy 4th!

[Landsvw]

Just in time for the 4th! Since it's rainy and wet here in Alaska (visiting mom), I'm spending too much time on the interweb.

[2LZ]

This thread is over 9 years old. :hmm:

Hey now....some of us have been around for a while! ;-)