Powersportsmax so far so good...

[parallax]

Hello everyone...

New guy here. Just ordered a DB-P12 from powersportsmax and thought i would report on my experiences throughout the process. Unlike a few other users i've read about, i have had no trouble reaching anyone at powersportsmax. I have called them 5 times prior to ordering and once after ordering. Only once did they not answer the phone. And in fairness to them i called during thier lunch time. Regardless they have been very curtious and answered all my questions in a reasonable manner. So anyway...I ordered my bike on thursday June 28th late in the day...and tuesday the 2nd I called to get the tracking number (at their recomendation)...and it had already shipped from cali...on its way to me in mass. That is pretty fast processing from all the posts i have seen all over the internet about PSM and many other companies. it remains to be seen if i will have a lot of trouble tagging the bike here in mass. We'll see? And of course the MSO and the BOS are the wildcards?

So I will of course post all the details when the bike arrives...and i look forward to asking many questions and hopefully getting many answers from all you knowledgable folks.

Thanks...

Alex
8) :P
Ride on!!

[knothead]

No tach, no rack... good price, plus I really like the style. Overall it looks like a pretty good deal as long as you didn't get roo-roo'd on the shipping.
Anyhoo, congrats! You'll enjoy the heck out of it. Now run out and buy a tube of loc-tite and some oil....

[parallax]

Yeah...i wanted a tach...but could live without. The only thing I really wanted was a rack...but i like the styling and features of the DB-P12 so much more than anything else out there...that i thought i would just add my own rack.

Actually their shipping cost is among the best...$199.00 including residencial & lift gate service. Plus 4-7 day shipping. That rocks from what i've seen and heard among other distributors. It all comes out to be about the same cost of all the less expensive dealers...but the added residencial and lift gate service...plus quick shipping puts it over the top...

So far so good as the title of this topic says...

Thanks for the comment...

Alex
8) :lol: :o 8O :P
Ride On!!

[NewEnglandTrails]

Paralax,,

Where in Mass?

I checked out their website.
Nice bike and inexpensive.. However it is identified as a dirt-bike. Which means the MSO may come with the phrase "Dirtbike for offroad use only"
That may pose the largest obstacle to registering it in Mass.. When you ask for the MSO you can ask them to put "Motorcycle" under body type... that would help your cause, but as they do advertise it as a dirt bike you may not be able to get them to do that. Anyway keep us posted on what happens, post your registry experience under the registration issues section so other people in Mass can learn from you..

Glad to see another New Englander on board.

Keep us posted.

NET

[parallax]

Howdy NET,

I'm in western mass...in the berkshires. I'm pretty sure their aren't too many other china bikes around here...but i could be wrong?

Anyway...PSM has an MSO request form on their website that the buyer fills out after they receive the bike. I will be sure to ask for the body type to be listed as MOTORCYCLE!!

I also may receive an MSO within the shipping carton....i guess i'll find out soon enough... :roll:

Thanks again for your advice..and your comments...

Alex
:D :) :!:
Ride On!!

[NewEnglandTrails]

Great riding out in the Berkshires.. I grew up in Lenox and used to like going over October mountain and coming in behind the Farnum dam on trails, I wonder if the dam is still there..

You'll have lots of good places to ride out there.

I think there is a Lifan dealer in Sheffield, MA, at least that was according to a member who bought two Lifans there..

NET

[STcoldcrzy]

i kive in southern nh and down in lynn mass there is a lifan dealer

[parallax]

That's good to know...I may look them up if i need parts...

Anyway, tomorrow is wed...and the truck is delivering my bike tomorrow. I'm very excited. I will try to remember to take pictures of the arrival and unwrapping from the crate. I should hopefully post by tomorrow evening with pics and more information on my experience...

so far so good...

Alex
:D 8O 8) :lol: :wink:
Ride On!!

[edcole]

Hey parallax, keep us posted on your new bike and take some pics for us. Looks like a real nice bike and a good buy!

[parallax]

hey guys...the bike arrived about an hour ago...i just got done extricating it from its crate...I took a bunch of pics of it during this process. I will also document the rest of the assembly. The bike arrived perfect...although the box took a couple hits in shipping, the bike was perfect. It looks awesome!!

I am also surprised to see a 169FML engine in it rather than the 163FM it was listed as having. Anyone have any info about the 169FML motor as opposed to the 163FM? The 169 is a lifan right?

Also, the bike had a small (easily removed :) ) sticker on the back fender that said "for offroad use only"...and the temp MSO that was included says dirt bike on it...but my buddy next door with a few enduro's seems to think I won't have any trouble getting a reg...we'll see...

Anyway...i will try to post pictures from work tonight...I only have another hour or so to futz with this thing before work...

So far so good...

Alex
8O :? 8) :lol: :o :wink:
Ride On!!

[katoranger]

I believe the 169 motor is the overhead cam version.

Allen

[NewEnglandTrails]

Alex,

Glad to hear you got your bike and in one piece. Great question about the engine number. I posted a question in the Misc section about engine numbers as there is a variety of engine numbers and Im hoping to get a consolidated definition of their differences.

Let us know how it fired up and how everything is going. Oh... and a ride report after you take her up over October Mountain lol..

NET

[edcole]

parallax, glad to hear you got your bike ok, can't wait to see the pics of it.

[parallax]

Ok guys...here are the first pics i took today upon recieving and decrating my new DB-P12 from Powersportsmax.com. So far everything has been great...from purchase to delivery...it has been fast and friendly. The bike is everything i wanted and more. Although i still haven't finished putting it together yet or starting it yet...so far I am very satisfied.

Here are a few items i had wondered about prior to buying the bike that were not listed...i am listing them for those of you considering purchasing this great looking bike....i hope it helps your decision.

1) The bike has the 169FML engine (not the 163FM as in the listing)
2) It is a 5 speed bike...the shift pattern is 1 down...4 up...
3) It has a 9L fuel tank...with 1.1L reserve
4) It is made by "Chongqing Shineray Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd."
5) It's very big!!
6) It looks great...nice styling!!

I'll post more info later...that's all i can think of for now!!

Anyway...here are the first pics i took of it today...i'll post more as i finish assembly and start using it...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0202.jpg
Shipping box took a few hits...
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0205.jpg
but inside all was fine...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0206.jpg
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169FML...looks real nice!! OHC?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0213.jpg
California emissions approved!!
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Looks real nice!!
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Plastic is actually pretty good quality...i'm surprised!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0220.jpg
Manuals are fantastic...in color...and fairly detailed...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0221.jpg
Yes...you do need to be able to translate the endless mispelling and gramatical errors...but oh well...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0222erasedvin.jpg
This is the temp MSO i got...on pretty heavy weight glossy paper...it may work?

Ok...so that is it for now. I'm getting out of work in a couple hours and will hopefully finish assembly tonight late....i will of course take a ton more pics for everyone's consumption. I know it would have helped me in decision process...so i hope it helps you!!

Please feel free respond with comments and suggestions...

Alex
:lol: 8) :? 8O :wink:
Ride On!!

[edcole]

I am curious as how it is going to sound when it is running with 2 mufflers. Looks like it has some very nice features. I like the bolted on passenger foot pegs. I like the headlight assembly a lot better than the Lifan too. Keep the pics coming as you go along.

[pumpkin]

looks like a great bike congrats and good luck. ride safe. great pics

[Savage]

It may have 1 muffler and 1 toolbox designed to look like a muffler. :?:

[SamM]

Wow parallax! That looks like a very nice bike! Congratulations on your purchase.

[parallax]

hi guys...actually it's two real mufflers (with spark arrestors)...and a toolbox!! :D

I just got done with most of the assembly...charging battery now...should be good to go by morning...then it's fluids time...

I have a ton of leftover nuts and bolts...it's cool they give you extras...lol... :roll:

Here is a couple pics of the almost finished product...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0223.jpg
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I think it looks pretty killer...hopefully it runs as good as it looks... :?:

Alex
:lol: :o :( 8) :)
Ride On!!

[edcole]

I like the front blinker (winkers) a lot better on your bike than mine. Mine mount off the handlebars and looks cheesy as hell. The hand guards on yours are nice too. thanks for all the good pics.

[madmaximum]

hmmm, check out the name on the MSO & think about it for a minute......

Nice bike. I was watching this thread because I thought you had ordered a 250, not sure where I got that idea. I'm curious to hear if the dual exhaust helps with the power.

[Savage]

I like the lights and the front fender appears to sit higher than others.

[SamM]

It's looks like a much better bike than mine is. All the issues I have with mine appear to be much better on this bike. The battery is under the seat, better footpegs and passenger pegs, the plastic looks much better, and the headlight looks awesome. How's the rear suspension work?

That is a very nice bike! I'm not sure the dual mufflers are needed but they look cool!

[AZ200cc]

That bike does not look bad at all....Are the plastics rigid and easy to break? Great pics also.

[katoranger]

See, the chinese are listening. I see alot of improvements on that bike too. I think I bought too soon, but the lifan will not be my last bike.

Allen

[edcole]

I have to agree that there a lot of improvements on that bike. I think the only thing I would miss is the rear rack on that bike. Looking forward to his ride report.

[parallax]

Hey Guys,

I finally got all the assembly done...and the battery charged today...but then had to go into work. I just got back from my dinner break and I ripped home to at least spend a little more time with my new baby...lol. Anyway, I tested all electrical systems and everything is working perfectly. I drained the shipping oil and replaced it with some 10w40. All that is left is to fill it with gas (93oct)...and i should be good to go. Probably gonna try to fire it up tonight when i get home.

Also, i thought i would respond about the plastic quality. It seems fantastic. Very spongy and forgiving...not hard, stiff, or brittle at all.

Fully assembled the bike is stunning...i'm psyched. Anyway i'll report how the starting and hopefully breaking in portion goes. And of course a bunch of new pics of it in all its glory and pics of it in use, hopefully 8O . Then on to the registering phase.

Thanks for all the kind words about the bike. It's very reasuring to have so many active and knowledgable users frequenting this forum...thanks again everyone!!

And to NET...october mountain is looking mighty nice right now...lol... :wink:

Alex
:D 8O :) :lol: :wink:
Ride On!!

[desert_drew]

Looking good! Great styling.
I hope your MCO and registration go smoothly.
Keep up the step-by-step for us, it may change some minds...

I'm just about ready to buy. I've been planning on getting the 2007 American Lifan LF200GY-5 but this bike looks like it may be a cut above!

I'm starting to think I can live without that Lifan 6 month warranty!?!? :?

[Savage]

WELCOME Drew!

[SamM]

I agree with katoranger! The Chinese are listening and I believe they are starting to get it. I may have also bought to early.

This bike looks so good I may have to get one and part out the Viva!

[AZ200cc]

Hey Guys,

I finally got all the assembly done...and the battery charged today...but then had to go into work. I just got back from my dinner break and I ripped home to at least spend a little more time with my new baby...lol. Anyway, I tested all electrical systems and everything is working perfectly. I drained the shipping oil and replaced it with some 10w40. All that is left is to fill it with gas (93oct)...and i should be good to go. Probably gonna try to fire it up tonight when i get home.

Also, i thought i would respond about the plastic quality. It seems fantastic. Very spongy and forgiving...not hard, stiff, or brittle at all.

Fully assembled the bike is stunning...i'm psyched. Anyway i'll report how the starting and hopefully breaking in portion goes. And of course a bunch of new pics of it in all its glory and pics of it in use, hopefully 8O . Then on to the registering phase.

Thanks for all the kind words about the bike. It's very reasuring to have so many active and knowledgable users frequenting this forum...thanks again everyone!!

And to NET...october mountain is looking mighty nice right now...lol... :wink:

Alex
:D 8O :) :lol: :wink:
Ride On!!

The plastics do not loko painted either...Are they?

[kczukiman]

Is there a weight limit on a bike like that?The reason I ask is that I am about 240 lbs and I would be really interested in a bike like that. It looks awsome.I used to ride dirt bikes as a kid about 30 some years ago.At 46 I may be kidding myself.But the idea seems fun.

[pumpkin]

i forget what it is but i'm 225-230lbs my daughter is 80lbs and we do just fine. it might have long term afects i don't know but at these prices i'll buy another

[parallax]

It's kinda hard to type right now...i'm giddy...like a kid in a candy store. I just came in from finishing up the fluids and firing it up for the first time. It ran kinda rough for a minute or two then chilled out and i took for a spin up the block. What can I say...it simply rocks!! Tons of power...and plenty fast for the little bit of city driving I plan to use it for. This is a big bike...it barely sags at all when i get on it..and i'm 6'...230lbs (and falling :wink: )...i'm sure i could carry a 150lb "friend" with ease.

This bike is everything that was advertised and actually much more. The plastic is not painted but fully molded color embedded. It is very flexible and would seem to be long lasting. I have used a million plastic products throughout the years...and these feel as good as the best i've seen. The bike is not loud at all...especially at idle (although i may have to adjust the idle up a bit). I only got to ride it about 1/2 mile cause it's almost 2am here..and the houses close by are probably not too happy with me right now...lol 8) . Powersportsmax...did everything they said..and the bike arrived in a fairly quick time frame and in great shape. i'm very pleased with the transaction.

My god...this is a lot of bike for $800 clams, plus $199.00 shipping. Too good to be true. And yes...the only thing i wish it had is a rack on the back...but big deal...it has every new feature on the most expensive china bikes made and then some!!

No Tach...No Rack...but they must be on Crack...to sell a bike like this for so little!!

So i'm of course gonna keep you guys up to date on the status of this bike....but for now...here are the pics i took of the bike after coming back from my quick ride...it's as awesome as it looks!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0233.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0234.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0242.jpg

So keep the coments coming...and if any of you have any question...don't hesitate to ask...

Whaaahoooo!!! SPEEDEE 200 Rules!!

Alex
8O :D :o :wink:
Ride On!!

[AZ200cc]

Only one question left..And it will have to wait until after it's broken in to answer....Top speed :?: :D

[red2003]

Nice ride. Glad to hear we have another choice in the China Bike market. Good source for better plastic and those dual exhausts really look cool. The front fender / headlight is MUCH improved. BTW that 169 fml motor IS pushrod, not OHC. It has a bigger bore, shorter stroke so it's gonna feel a little less touquey then the 163fml, but should have a little better top end. Great bike, congrats!!!

[goldshadow]

I really like the headlight and blinkers alot more then my gy. The bike looks like it may sit higher as well. How tall is the seat on it?

[Savage]

Looks like it has a nice, thin LED taillight - does it?
The front end looks sharp! I assume it will have the same growing pains that all of our bikes have.

[Savage]

Oh and the important question is; will it make it getting legal? I hope so

[parallax]

I took the bike out on the streets today...mainly to try to get it registered with the temp MSO...and a printed reciept (not BOS) from PSM's website. I know 8O ...but i wanted to test the legal waters. I was easily able to get insurance for it at my local mom and pop insurance agency. But i was not so lucky at the registry. All is not lost though...the registry simply wanted an MSO on legal "security paper"...it must list the number of cylinders (not the B009 it currently lists)...it must have my name as name of purchaser included on the front...and it must have the business address listed under the "USTITAN". Neither my insurance co. nor the registry had a big problem with the "dirt bike" body type. So i'm hopefull...

The bike ran great for the two hours i was out on it...i put on about 12 miles...very cool!! several people came up to ask me about it...lol...

Here's a couple pics from me stoping at my brother's house...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0251.jpg
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Our friend June...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0282.jpg
Left to right...Me, Speedee, June, Nick (brother)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/Alex_Speedee200_ThumbsUp_small_7-13.jpg
Me and Speedee200...

We'll i'm fixing to go hit a couple minor trails...it's a beautiful day!!

Alex
:o :) :D 8O 8) :lol: :wink:
Ride On!!

[parallax]

While i'm at work and not riding the bike (bummer), i thought i would answer a few of the questions some of you have asked.

1) <[edcole]...I am curious as how it is going to sound when it is running with 2 mufflers.>
-It sounds great...not very loud at all...at least not at all compared to the 2 strokes and hogs that go ripping up and down my road all day long.

2) <[madmaximum]...hmmm, check out the name on the MSO & think about it for a minute......>
-What does this mean? Do you know something i don't?

3) <[SamM]...How's the rear suspension work?>
-It works the same as most other bikes...coiled shock and swing arm...it is great...i had it on some pretty knotty trails today...and it was not quite a cadillac ride...but pretty close...lol...I'll take some close up pics as soon as i get a chance.

4) <[kczukiman]...Is there a weight limit on a bike like that?>
-I think the listed weight limit is 350lbs...but i'm sure i could handle more...

5) <[AZ200cc]...Only one question left..And it will have to wait until after it's broken in to answer....Top speed?>
-Well I couldn't tell you that yet...but I had it up to 65kmph today..that is 40.39mph...it could have easily done 80km and more if i pushed it...but not yet...lol...

Great site for conversion of km to mph: http://www.eforecourt.com/mph_kph_speed_convert.htm

6) <[goldshadow]...How tall is the seat on it?>
-The seat is 34.25" high about an inch or two higher than most...

7) <[Savage]...Looks like it has a nice, thin LED taillight - does it?>
-Yes...it is very thin...looks totaly cool...but still quite bright and easy to see...

8 <[Savage]...Oh and the important question is; will it make it getting legal? I hope so>
-Me too...i'm working on it...PSM says they will get me the properly filled out MSO next week...so my fingers are crossed. They were completely willing to listen to what i needed the MSO to say according to my DMV...PSM said no problem...we'll see...

Ok that's it for now...keep the questions coming...

Alex
:D :) :o :lol: 8) :wink:
Ride On!!

[knothead]

That's a good looking bike, even more so in your pics than in the pics I've seen before. Congrats!

[kczukiman]

Man I want one of those :cry:

[AZ200cc]

A lot of bike for the money it seems, I sent my brother the site and the price...Hope he buys one so I can ride it :lol:

[desert_drew]

parallax,

A couple more questions for you...

1. How many teeth are there on the rear sprocket? Front also if it's not too much trouble.

2. How is the padding on the seat? Think you would be comfy after a couple hours?

I'm almost sold, just want to hear good words about MCO & registration (as I'm sure you do!).

Thanks in advance,
Drew

P.S. I found the same bike for $1 more here - http://www.bike2go.com/product_info.php/products_id/604
Never heard of them although the site is a near copy (or vice-versa) of powersportsmax.com

[ob1]

Are the exhaust cans marked "USFS Approved Spark Arrestor"?

[parallax]

The mufflers do not say "USFS Approved Spark Arrestor".

I'm not sure how many teeth are on the sprockets...will check later and get back to you...

The padding on the seat is pretty good...i put another 2 hours on it today and was very comfortable.

I also found that website that looks almost exactly like PSM...but since they didn't have any of the other info on the website including more pictures...and i had never heard anything about them...bad or good...i didn't bother with them.

I clipped a tree today lightly and the right side mirror glass poped out of the holder and hit the ground and cracked!! :twisted:

So on to ebay to grab another pair...lol.. :roll:

I also hit some jumps pretty hard today and managed to compress the front end almost all the way...in doing so the right plastic fork guard clipped the right side front fork license adapter and a small portion of the plastic was sheered off by the plate adapter...argghhh...no biggie...but i guess i was riding too hard...and my perfect bike is now not perfect. Given, these problems are very small and almost meaningless...but still...lol :oops:

Lessons learned:
1) Remove the mirrors when you go trail riding!!
2) Don't compress the front end completely (lol)
3) Remove the front plate adapter if not in the UK...
4) This bike can handle rough riding with ease...small jumps are no problem!!

Here are a couple pics of the rear shock system as requested...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0283.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0285.jpg

more soon...

Alex
8O :D :) :o :twisted: :wink:
Ride On!!

[PB-12]

Hey Alex! Just ordered my PB-12 in blue from powersportsmax on friday. Thank you for this great thread. It made my decision a lot easier. I live in Harwich MA so im hoping it wont take to long for it to get here.

[vice108]

Any updates on the Db-p12? I'm looking hard at getting one.

[edcole]

Vice, where are you located in Maine? I am located in Bangor

[parallax]

I'm so happy right now!!!

SPEEDEE IS REGISTERED!!!

I have to start by saying that I have no affiliation with Powersportsmax!!
Powersportsmax has been absolutely flawless in this transaction...in fact they have gone way beyond even what a local mom and pop dealer could deliver...let me explain...

I called them monday to send me an MSO for my new bike that has to meet the following requirments:
1) Must be on security paper
2) Must list the proper number of cyclinders
3) Should say Motorcycle as body type
4) Must have the dealers name and address listed on the front of MSO
5) Must have dealers name, license number and signature as well as odemeter statement signed by dealer and my name and signature on back.

Juan at PSM said no problem to any of these requirments. Also I told him I wanted it overnighted to me (for $30.00). He said no problem. And guess what...he did exactly what i asked of him.

I got the perfectly filled out MSO and BOS today overnighted to me...and i went down to my local DMV and after a bit of hemming and hawing...i now have a new tag on my bike.

WHOOOHOO!!! I'm Legal!! 8)

Wait its gets even better!!

I mentioned in an earlier post that i had damaged my right side mirror, as well as sheared off a portion of my right side plastic fork cover. Well on a whim after speaking with Juan I asked him to transfer me to the parts dept. I told them i needed to get a few parts...he simply asked me what i needed...i told him a new right side mirror...two front fork covers...and a new battery as my current one doesn't hold a charge.

He said ok, no problem..those will be on their way to you today...you should have them in a week...and guess what...free of charge!!!!!!! (not even a shipping fee!!)

Oh my god...who does this? These guys are top notch sales, service, support...all the way!! Thank you PSM!!!

All that is left is to have my local cycle shop inspect my bike and i'm all set...I have 7 days to do that...

Ok guys i'm not saying your experience will be as good as mine...i'm simply saying what my experience with PSM has been like.

I can also say that I love this bike...cruising around town today I had it up to 80kmph...that's 50mph...it had a lot more nut if i needed it...but that was all i wanted to push it to yet... :wink:

I will post a few pics of the new plate (for proof)...as well as the sheared front fork cover...as well as the MSO showing the proper way to have it filled out...and if i have time i'll count those teeth on the rear sprocket...I would have to take off the front sprocket cover to even be able to see that one...so I'm not gonna do that yet...

Anyway...i'll post a little later tonight...

Happy days...

Alex
:D :D :) :o 8O 8) :lol: :wink:
Ride On!!

[edcole]

Awesome, glad to hear that you are happy and got it tagged. Keep us informed with pics. I may have to buy that bike too, my wife would kill me if I bought another bike.

[vice108]

Vice, where are you located in Maine? I am located in Bangor

I'm in Gorham !

[parallax]

Ok here are few pics from today...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/Tagged_DB-P12.jpg
Tagged in Mass

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/Proper_MSO_Cleaned.jpg
This is a copy of the properly filed out MSO that worked at my MASS DMV...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/Cracked_Sheared_ForkCover.jpg
This is the right side front fork cover that got damaged...i should have the replacement next week...PSM rocks!!

Will get back to you all frequently to let you how the bike is doing...but as for now...all is well...

Alex
:D :) :o :wink:
Ride On!!

[desert_drew]

AWESOME!!! Congratulations!

I'll be ordering mine next week! Hope it goes as smooth for me as it did for you.

Drew

[edcole]

Vice, was just down there this past weekend as my sister lives in Buxton. Bought my Honda Aero down at Reynolds motorspors too. Good to see another Mainer on here. Take care

[parallax]

Hey PB-12...i'm assuming you mean a DB-P12...that is my bike...probably just a typo...Anyhoo, congrats...you're gonna love it...let me know if i can help in anyway...

desert_drew...i'm glad I helped your decision along...I'm sure you'll also love the bike when you get it...

On a side note...I'm thinking of purchasing a quad from PSM around my birthday in november...since I now know how thier sales, service and support are...

I can't see owning a sled that is only good for two or three months max...a quad should be perfect for the winter months...

Any thoughts you guys?

Alex
:D :P :roll: :wink:
Ride On

[AZ200cc]

Do You have anyway to post video of the bike? I am thinking about selling my Trailmaster and picking one of those up.

[parallax]

what type of video are you looking for? Video of it in motion? Or video of it sitting and running? Or jumping? 8O

Or all of the above...he he...don't know about jumping...lol...

I guess i could put a vid together...

Let me know what you are looking for?

[AZ200cc]

Maybe a Vid of it jumping a double...Or maybe a Shot of a 20 footer..Perhaps some wheelies and stoppies :lol:









Basic action You know...Small jumps maybe..And some trail riding..Just curious if it will be better than My bike or if it just looks better. No sense in spending cash if I am not stepping up :wink: I realize this is is asking a lot but it would be appreciated. Plus I love the sound of a bike, Pics never do them justice.

[parallax]

Wheelies and stoppies huh...hmmm...sounds fun...not sure if i have the skillz to do that though...lol :cry:

Well, I'll see what i can do...it'll be a couple days...but i'll whip something up... :wink:

[AZ200cc]

Thanks man, Very cool.

[dirtbikekid25]

hey paralax im also from Ma. im from the cape. I am trying to make a decision which one to buy, i think you helped me make the decision. I was going to go with a lifan, now i think il go with a db-p12. How does it go on the road? Have you had any problems with it since you put it on the road? any problems getting it inspected? talk to ya later :)

[dirtbikekid25]

hows the seat height on the bike? im 5'11 and weigh 140 and i want something that il feel comfortable on meaning i dont have to stand on my toes when its stopped!

[parallax]

I took the bike about an hour away today (that's an hour each way)...and it's top speed is about 65mph...on a flat road. The bike was fine...didn't vibrate too much at all...ran great.

My spedo started acting squirly on the way home...that is the only issue i have had. Will check it out later. I haven't had it inspected yet. Will do that next week. I have been riding around everyday since i got it...and now i ride it to work as well...put about 110 miles on it so far...gotta change oil tomorrow... 8)

The seat height is pretty tall...I'm 6' and stand on my toes on it with both feet on the ground. Actually I don't mind at all...it feels fine...

Get used to people asking about it everywhere you go... :?

[ambassador]

DirtBike,
I own a 06' GY-5 and I'm 5'8 and have no problem with touching the ground or stopping at lights... Have fun with which ever bike you choose...

[parallax]

Just bought a "Trail Tech Vapor"...gonna add it to my bike for a tach, better speedo, trip meter, engine temp, etc...

Should be here next week...

i'll keep you informed...

[edcole]

I just ran across that today. Looks like a nice unit. Did you order the 75-700 kit for your bike? Keep us informed and take some pics of the install.

[parallax]

Yup...the 75-700 kit is the generic kit...

I spoke with Trail Tech about it...they said the new version of the kit comes with an air temp sensor for non liquid cooled bikes like ours...it attaches in place of the spark plug washer...replacing the washer that is there.

So that is cool!! Or hot...whichever you like! :wink:

I will take pics of the install for everyone's consumption...should be a nice add on...

[NewEnglandTrails]

Alex,

Next you gotta get some spiked tires so you can take it out on Onota lake in the winter....lol

Im gonna look up Trail Tech, hopefully they have a website so I can see what you got...

ps. You have any relatives that were from Lenox.?

NET

[parallax]

Well first off...I live less than a mile from onota lake...I run my boat there in the summer months.

I doubt i'll be taking speedee on the lake in the winter... 8O

But, I am gonna grab a quad in november for winter riding...Onota is beautiful year round!!

Here is the trail tech website for those that are interested:
http://trailtech.net/

Direct link to the vapor:
http://trailtech.net/vapor.html

I don't have any relatives from lenox...but i'm there constantly as i have many clients that live there (I run a small computer repair business among other things).

I do have relatives in richmond...and other towns nearby though...

The berkshires can be quite nice at times... 8)

If you're ever up here look my up...i'd love ride with other chinariderz!!

[NewEnglandTrails]

Alex,

After clicking on your link to your business, I recalled Onota lake because your business is located so close. Used to go fishing and boating on the lake year round.. Does Onota still hold the state record for Northern Pike? A quad would be a blast on the ice...

Thanks for the Vapor link.. I,m gonna check it out..

As far as your relatives.. I,m going to PM you...

Great website for your business.. Hope its going well.....

Keep on riding!!

NET

[parallax]

Net,

Not sure about the pike record? :roll: ...lol

The business is great...been doing it for many years...I'm also an avid amature astronomer (i'm sure you could tell if you visited the website!) and have marketed and sold my own astronomical accessories for many years as well. I also sing and play guitar in a band that gigs every weekend. And on top of that I work full time for a local hospital in the server dept, and will be working to get my computer science degree with a minor in astronomy at Simon's Rock of Bard College this semester. I like to keep busy! :lol:

Can you say lots of coffee!! 8O

Feel free to PM me...

[desert_drew]

Today I walked up to the edge... Took a look into the abyss...

And JUMPED!

Ordered my RED Shineray Speedee DB-P12 200cc from PowerSportsMax.com.

Sure hope my order goes as smoothly as yours parallax! Thanks for helping me decide which bike to get.

PB-12 have you had word on yours yet?

Wish me luck all!
'Desert' Drew

[parallax]

Whaahoo...WTG Desert_Drew!!

I'm sure you're gonna love it...

Let me know if I can help in any other way...having recently been through most of what you are about to deal with.

BTW nice color choice...lol :wink:

Keep us informed of your progress...

[desert_drew]

:D

Yeah, I'll do a thread like you did with lots of pics. Your thread helped me tremendously!

I picked red because I will be riding into Las Vegas occasionally and if you can't be seen they'll be scraping you off the road! LOL! :cry: But seeing you on yours sealed the deal.

Make sure to post up your Trail Tech Vapor install. I'll probably do the same thing in the future, but will use my Garmin ETrex to get reliable speed figures for now.

[PB-12]

Hi Drew, Powersportsmax gave me a tracking number 3 business days after I ordered. Right now the bike is in kentucky and on its way. Should be here on Teusday and I cant wait!

[desert_drew]

Great!

I called and talked to a guy named Franco before I ordered and he said mine would go out on Monday and I would get a tracking # then. :D

Drew

[AZ200cc]

Cool, :D We will have two more reviews of this bike soon.....And the srvice at that dealer. Can't wait guys.

[parallax]

Howdy,

Just wanted to let you guys know i posted a video I took of today's awesome ride. It was a beautiful day and Speedee performed flawlessly. I rode some pretty technical trails for my skill level and got to see first hand the capabilities of this bike...i'm impressed. I love this bike!! :lol:

Check out the "Ride Reports" section of this forum...look for the "Me&Speedee" post...

Here are a couple still from the days ride...hope you like:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0313-1.jpg
West Mt. Rd...in the Berkshires...Speedee ate it up...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0314.jpg
A beautiful swamp...I just had to stop...the road is pretty much all solid rock for miles...crazy... 8O
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/IMG_0461.jpg
My favorite pic of the day...

P.S...Hey NET...check out the vid...you may recognize a few spots...

[AZ200cc]

Hi Drew, Powersportsmax gave me a tracking number 3 business days after I ordered. Right now the bike is in kentucky and on its way. Should be here on Teusday and I cant wait!

So what's the scoop? How is the bike? :?:

[desert_drew]

Hey PB...

I was wondering the same thing. Sure hope everything is going OK!

The trucking co. said mine should be delivered tomorrow but I have yet to get a call from the driver so who knows? I'll start a new thread when I get mine to document my experience with PowersportsMax.com and my 'Speedee' DB-p12 200cc.

[parallax]

Drew,

Can't wait to hear about it...hope everything goes well for you...

So far i love my Speedee!!

[desert_drew]

Chompin' at the bit! :D :D :D

[AZ200cc]

Chompin' at the bit! :D :D :D


So did You get the bike yet man :? ??? No word from PB-12 so far. Making me rethink about buying from the powersports site :( .

[desert_drew]

Didn't get it yet but...

It's not PowersportsMax.coms' fault!

I live in a really remote area 65 miles from the nearest large city which is Las Vegas. PowersportsMax.com contracted DHE trucking to deliver my bike and they picked it up in L.A., took it to Sacramento (foul ball). When it didn't show up all week I called DHE Wed. and they said I would get it Friday, when I called Friday they were very evasive about the whole thing. Monday I finally got through to someone high enough up to find out what was going on. Apparently once it got to Sacramento they THEN discovered that they don't service southern Nevada!?! 8O :x :evil: Needless to say, I was VERY upset! 4 days off work for nothing!

It is supposed to be delivered back to PowersportsMax.com by noon tomorrow (Aug. 1st) where I assume (always a bad thing) that PowersportsMax.com has arranged for another carrier. DHE said I'm supposed to call PowersportsMax.com after noon to find out what's what.

PowersportsMax.com did not return calls I made during this time (strike 1), but they were in contact with DHE trying to work out an alternative with them (Ball 1). DHE only said that they could not fulfill the contract and they were returning the shipment (unsportsmanlike behavior, tossed out of game) and that I should contact PowersportsMax.com after noon tomorrow. Again I have to assume (:roll:) that PowersportsMax.com didn't call me back because they were still trying to work it out.

I'll let everyone who's interested in this know what I find out tomorrow. I also plan to make a full report in the 'Dealer Discussion' forum once it is all resolved, one way or the other.

[parallax]

Ouch...that is terrible!!

I hope you get it all worked out...it doesn't sound like it is PSMs fault...but i guess the trucking company should have said they don't service your area up front...that's just rediculous!!

Call PSM...i'm sure they will work with you to get it all right...

They've been pretty good to me...i can't imagine that i am the anomaly... :roll:

Keep us informed...and if there is anything i can tell you about the bike to hold you over till you get it, let me know...

Fingers crossed for you...

[ob1]

Seems like DHE should just find a trucking company that does service your area, and eat the cost.

It would probably be cheaper for them, and better for you, than shipping it back to PSM.

{Captain Logical is available for motivational speeches and birthday parties for a nominal fee}

[desert_drew]

Thanks for the support guys! :)

I'll let you know what happens.

[desert_drew]

Well... Tried calling again today. No answer and the voicemail box was full. :cry:

Submitted a fresh "ticket" email through their site...

"Hi guys,

I'm trying to stay positive here but you have not answered my calls for 5 business days now. I know this shipping screw up was NOT your fault. I would just like some contact with you guys to make me feel better, just to hear you say that we are working on it is enough for now. I may be able to help by picking it up from a terminal in Las Vegas or Henderson, Nevada. I'm sure it would be a lot easier to find an LTL carrier to a major hub rather than my remote address.

Please, please contact me. I'm not hard to deal with, I'm not going to rant and rave. I live in a rural area, this is not the first time I've had trouble getting something delivered. It is however the first time a company has not responded to my calls.

Drew Vroman
702-3XX-X9X"

This is the response I got about a half hour later...

"Dear customer,
I am very sorry for your problem,i have checked your order,the shipping company said can't ship to that place and they return it to the SM manufacturer,i will notify our manager ,and then give you an early reply.
Sorry,
PowersportsMax.com Service"

Sender name was listed as Orrise. Juan was the one dealing with DHE. Orrise obviously didn't know about my situation previously. :?

I'll call this 'ball 2' but it was a checked swing and could have easily been called strike 2 by a less forgiving umpire! :( :( :(

Thus the saga continues... Keep your fingers crossed for me please. :)

[mrhyak]

I thought usually there would be a phone number/contact number for both sender and reciever so contact could be attempted to avoid such things as "sending an item back".

Also, to be addressed as "Customer" seems very generic..... Sorry to hear of your trouble. Good luck.

Jack

[desert_drew]

mrhyak,

The original bill of lading has both addresses and phone #'s. Nobody called me, I had to call them (the freight co.). They picked the bike up on the 23rd apparently without checking the address.

Update:
I just now got a final update from DHE (the freight co.) that included a scan of the 'no service area' notice to Deeal Inc, (PowersportsMax.com) They knew they had screwed up on the 26th, AND they had the %alls to charge Deeal Inc. $127 bucks for the round trip (Whittier, CA to Sacramento, CA and back again)! Bet I'm their favorite customer right now :cry: :?

[AZ200cc]

Man that sucks big time, That frieght company should have to eat the cost..They broke the contract. They could have at least tried to squedule a pickup nearby for You. Either way..I hope You get Your bike soon.


Good luck.

[parallax]

Man O man...this is just crappy!! :evil:

DHE has issues...they should have known at the moment they were contracted to deliver the bike by the supplied address. And yet they didn't?

It's like they took the carton on a little joyride around cali...at least someone is putting miles on speedee... :lol:

I'm sure PSM is not at all happy about this...as i know you are not!!

Hopefully they will get that bad boy delivered to a location you can pick it up from...

Still crossing fingers for you my man!! :wink:

[desert_drew]

Franco is THE MAN!!!

Franco is the guy at PowersportsMax.com that I originally talked to right before I ordered. Today he called me to say that they were sorry and would be crediting my account a full refund. I was bummin' and asked him if there was any other option, could I pick it up at their warehouse (no), could they ship it to another city such as St. George, Utah (about 3 hours north of me)? Franco said "St. George?", yeah I could drive up and pick it up from a terminal... So Franco said "let me check on that possibility, I'll call you back in a few minutes".

About 15 minutes later Franco called me back and said that the freight company that could do St. George didn't have a terminal there and they can only deliver to commercial addresses. Guess what? I live at a commercial address! "Can they deliver here if it's a commercial address", I asked, "let me put you on hold while I check" he says...

A minute or two went by and Franco comes back on the line, "Good news! They will pick it up tomorrow before 3 PM and you should get it Monday or Tuesday, you should get a new tracking# by Friday evening." (it's going, going, looks like a Home Run, bottom of the 9th, score tied 0-0, this could be the game winning hit!). :D :D :D :D :D

Whew, that was a close one! Cause I really want that 'Speedee'!!!

O.K. so we'll see if it really happens this time. Just to reiterate PowersportsMax.com was NOT responsible for the shipping foul up. They processed my order very quickly (ordered on Fri., shipped on Mon.) but were slow to respond to me once there was a problem. To be fair, I believe that they were trying to find an alternative way to get it to me.

I'll post again when I get a confirmed tracking #.
:P

[AZ200cc]

Now that seems professional, He tried any solution to get the problem solved. I really hope You get Your bike..After all of this You deserve it :lol:

[Savage]

Why didn't you have them ship it to your commercial address to begin with?

[parallax]

That's much better news drew...That is more in line with my experience. They seemed generaly intersted in delivering a quality product...and in my case they did!!

Keep us informed of the progress...and my fingers are still crossed for you bud...

[desert_drew]

I was impressed with Franco. He seemed genuinely sad that they would not be able to fulfill my order and jumped at the opportunity to find a solution that was 'outside the box'.

Why didn't you have them ship it to your commercial address to begin with?
They have an account with Dependable (yeah, right.) Highway Express and apparently use them pretty much exclusively. By filling out a bill of lading, picking up the freight and providing a tracking #, they essentially said they would deliver to my address. It was only after they had wracked up some charges that they decided to inform PSM & myself that they could not deliver on their contract. DHE didn't care what my address was "no LTL service to southern Nevada" period. PSM is using an alternative carrier that only does commercial.

I have a very unusual address, we live in employee housing of the Echo Bay Resort & Marina inside the Lake Mead National Recreation Area. My wife is the Hotel Manager. All the mail and normal (UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc.) packages go through the administration building. Everybody here (about 120 employees) has the same address, which is a commercial address, and we pick up our mail/packages at the administration building. When the driver calls, I am hoping to convince him of the commercial nature of the employee housing, but if all else fails I will get a few volunteers to help me load it in our Suburban and transport it the 1 mile from admin. to our house.

Thanks for all the support!!!

[PolygonFla]

As a former commercial long haul truck driver I think I can help here. A driver has two things on his mind. 1. How quickly and easily can I get unloaded so I can get my next load and start earning money again? 2. Can I safely and easily turn the truck around?

If there is a loading dock with a forklift, I am very happy. Quick turn around and an area designed for semis. If it is any other type of building I start to worry. When you speak to the driver assure him that you understand his needs and are prepared. Let him know that there is a way for him to get turned around weather it is a large parking lot or if going around a block is an option. Residential neighborhoods are not good places to try to turn a truck. With a 52’ trailer I need about 22’ to keep from pulling the trailer wheels over a curb and taking out a stop sign.

Also assure him or her that you will have enough help to move and lift at least 500lbs from shoulder height to the ground. Do not expect help from the driver. If a driver is expected to help unload cargo they charge a “Lumping fee” it varies by region in NY it is about $300.00 per hour in Florida $80.00 an hour and that was 10 years ago.
His company may have a policy of only allowing cargo to be removed at a dock. That is a concrete pad that is level with the back of the trailer. If that is the case you may have to work something out with the driver directly or locate a company that has a loading dock you can barrow for a half hour. It is totally possible, try local news paper, they receive large rolls of paper and may want to do a story about the China Bike revolution.

I don’t want to scare you I just want you to be prepared. With foresight and ingenuity any problem can be overcome. Any one else ordering a drop shipped bike to a residence should specify final delivery by a lift gate trailer. The drivers of lift gate trucks are prepared to unload and the truck is usually smaller. Anther option most of us have would be to rent a Uhaul/Rider truck and go to the truck depot. They can fork lift it right down into it. Call first to find out minimum deck height, roof height and width clearances. Bike, Lawn,Garden trailers just don't work well the fork lift can not lower the pallet down to it. The trailer is just to low.

[desert_drew]

Thanks for the info Polygon,

Our housing area is a big loop with plenty of room for a semi to get through. I plan to have 3-5 guys to help me get it out of the truck, I already knew the drivers usually don't help.

[PolygonFla]

Hey your welcome, I should have said 3 things on his mind. I will leav the 3rd open for debate.

[Savage]

and I wouldn't expect the metal crate to go in your suburban. they are pretty big and the metal is rather sharp; it will tear the heck out of your 'burb. :cry:

[parallax]

It should fit if you remove the rear seats...

[desert_drew]

It's an '87 - from back when they were still 'real' trucks not just oversize SUV's! Haven't had the back seat in in years. It has the side by side rear doors with a huge opening. Crate is only 34.25" tall (room to spare).


But... If it doesn't fit there are plenty of open pickups here, I'm sure I can get a volunteer. We are a close knit community far from the real world so everyone helps each other out when needed.

I'm still hoping to get it dropped at our house. :wink:

[NewEnglandTrails]

Drew,

From my experience:

Life is so much easier if when the truck shows up at the address you can be there with a pick up truck to back right to the truck and drop the crate in the the bed. I did this with my last delivery, had an idea of the time, had a friend standing by with the pickup and 2 buddy's, we walked it right into the back of the pickup and drove off.. Your Suburban would be good if you can walk the crate onto the top of the roof. But consider your dropping this 300+lb crate from a significant height and hope it fits.. into your suburban at the angle you dont know.. If the delivering truck has a lift gate you may have a chance... If not, I would highly recomend someone with a pickup truck hanging out with you on delivery day..

You could also consider a flat bed tow truck to be available if you have one nearby.

Good Luck getting your goods... From my trips up to Hoover dam I suspect you have some good riding area's lined up.... Always left the area unfulfilled as there seemed to be so many good places to just get offroad and explore... Too many blue hairs with me last time up there with an actual 4wd vehicle.. A dual sport would be sweet...

NET

[knothead]

Hey Drew, does anyone around you have a utility trailer? That's what we unloaded my bike onto. The utility trailer is low enough to make unloading off of it easy for one person. (my trailer tilts like a dump truck). Maybe the grounds maintenance guys have one? If they do just ask them, you might get lucky.

[AZ200cc]

WHen we get something heavy we just back the a pickup near the trailer..The driver lowers the liftgate right onto the tailgate....rolls the pallet on with his pallet jack and PRESTO...Works everytime.

[desert_drew]

Guess you guys aren't reading or didn't understand the part of my post on page 7 explaining where I live. Our home is a commercial address owned by the major resort where my wife is the Hotel Manager. It shouldn't be a problem for the driver to let me unload in front of my house. This will also save him 2 miles (and a steep hill) on the trip.

The Suburban/truck thing is just a backup plan if the driver doesn't understand that the entire property is leased from the Federal Gov. on a commercial basis and insists on delivering to the Administration/boat shop building. We have at least 20 people here with pickups. There is also a forklift & cube van that I can probably use if needed.

I'm 44 years old and this is not the first time I have received a large freight item. I appreciate the concern but unloading the truck is NOT the problem, getting someone to deliver to our remote commercial address has been the problem.

By the way, I did not receive a new tracking # today as promised so please excuse me for sounding a bit harsh. It's been a very stressful 2 weeks of waiting and wondering. :roll:

[AZ200cc]

Seems like You have it all figured out, Good luck

[knothead]

Read? SEVEN pages??!! ugh, man that's asking too much.

I understand that you're really frustrated, I would be seriously considering a road trip by now if I were you.

[desert_drew]

Thanks for understanding... And being here for support. :oops:

Gotta keep my chin up, right? :? Patience Drew, patience, it will all work out! :roll:

[AZ200cc]

It'll work out, Seems like the company will make it happen...

[knothead]

It'll work out, Seems like the company will make it happen...

Yeah, that's what surprized me. You hear so much about the crappy internet dealers and seldom anything about the good ones. It sounds like Powermax is really trying to get Drew's bike to him. It would have been easier for them just to cancell the order and refund his money, but they didn't.

[AZ200cc]

Right, ANd they have already lost money on the deal. And to continue to try shows they might be a good place to deal with.

[desert_drew]

Well it looks like the great shipping drama may be nearing the end!

My bike is in Las Vegas (65 miles away) and the agent/trucker who is handling the final delivery is supposed to call me 1 hour before delivery which will be either this afternoon or tomorrow.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

PowersportsMax.com when above and beyond to make this delivery happen. They lost money on the first shipper who refused to deliver to my address. They then offered a full refund, but found an alternate when I told them I really just wanted the bike, not a refund. They are a bit lacking in the communication arena (they may just not have enough people) but once you get them on the phone they are GREAT, courteous, helpful and very understanding.

I'll start my own thread once I get it and I'll try to show everyone even more of the great features of this bike.

Thank you parallax for bringing this bike to my attention!
Thanks to everyone else who offered encouragement, advice and a shoulder to lean on!
Most of all, thanks to ChinaRiders. Without these forums I may not have taken the plunge.

[katoranger]

Will be expecting a full report.

That is great and looks like another good seller to work with.

Allen

[parallax]

That's great news Drew... :lol:

I would have had a great new ride report with a ton of trail riding video uploaded for you all by today, but one of my huge 400gig hard drives bought the farm on me last night...taking with it about 25gigs of my mp3's...some of which i wanted to use in the new video production. So anyway...I spent last night recovering data...getting everything ready to create the movie for tonight. So look for a new ride report...tomorrow (late tonight)...

Here's a couple pics of my riding buddies...these are Paul's kids...Jackie and Jay...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/Unknown000079.jpg
Jay
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/parallax_m42/Unknown000080.jpg
Jackie

Speedee has been simply awesome...put about 1k miles on it so far...and i've loved every minute of it...my butt is a little sore...but that's a small price to pay...

:P

[knothead]

Well it looks like the great shipping drama may be nearing the end!

My bike is in Las Vegas (65 miles away) and the agent/trucker who is handling the final delivery is supposed to call me 1 hour before delivery which will be either this afternoon or tomorrow.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


You might even have a chance to run out and buy some loc-tite if you hurry! (and chain lube, a bit of grease and etc...) Hope you already have a helmet!

Heck, I'm actually relieved and happy for you. Congrats!

[AZ200cc]

Great news, glad to hear it Drew....Hope that ride report comes soon.
same with Yours Parallax

[parallax]

Hey guys...

For those of you that are interested, i posted a new ride report video in the "Ride Reports" section....check it out...but be aware...it's a big one...

Speedee Rocks!!

Drew...you're gonna love it!! :lol:

[desert_drew]

Nice vid parallax!

Well, I think I must be going for some kind of record and nobody bothered to tell me about it...

17 days, 3 freight lines, 11 phone calls, and 5 promised "tomorrow"s since I ordered! :lol: :roll:
I'm sure that when the truck finally arrives a partridge will be sitting in a pear tree somewhere nearby 8O

1 driver for my area, took out morning load in opposite direction from me, was supposed to pick up and deliver my bike this afternoon, didn't get back from morning load until it was too late to deliver mine :cry: :cry: :cry:

CFT says they are marking it as a 'hot' delivery and it will go out first thing in the morning. I sure hope so, don't know how much more I can take without going bonkers!!! 8O :roll: :lol: :? :lol: 8O :cry: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Just a reminder, none of this was PowersportsMax.coms' fault.

[AZ200cc]

Your luck is as bad as mine..SHEEEEEEEEEEESH

My pshyic power tells me that Your bike arrive tomorrow at 1:30 in the afternoon :lol:

[desert_drew]

My pshyic power tells me that Your bike arrive tomorrow at 1:30 in the afternoon :lol:

Now I know all is well!

BTW when is your next appearance on Oprah?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[AZ200cc]

Nope, I am on Maury, Some thing about a DNA test...Hmmph not sure what that's about :lol:

[Robertlamont80]

You guy totally sold me. I was going to buy the lifan, but I can save $500 and I love the duals, they remind me of my truck!!! :D Great reveiws, I am so excited I am going to freak right out!!!!! 8O :D All that bike for a $1000 delivered!!! It costs about a $1000 for a honda tail pipe and seat!!!! I'm glad to see the trail capabilities of these bikes because I was worried about it being a glorified moped. I only weigh about a 160 pounds so the bike won't even feel me there!!! All the better for catching some air!!!!

[parallax]

glad to help...

Speedee rocks!!

[AZ200cc]

You guy totally sold me. I was going to buy the lifan, but I can save $500 and I love the duals, they remind me of my truck!!! :D Great reveiws, I am so excited I am going to freak right out!!!!! 8O :D All that bike for a $1000 delivered!!! It costs about a $1000 for a honda tail pipe and seat!!!! I'm glad to see the trail capabilities of these bikes because I was worried about it being a glorified moped. I only weigh about a 160 pounds so the bike won't even feel me there!!! All the better for catching some air!!!!

Not to much air I hope...These bikes are great but are not MX bikes by any means :!: ... Either way hope You have a blast. Post a ride report as soon as You get it. :D

[desert_drew]

Another convert!
These DB-P12's seem to be a cut above most of the others and they cost less too! :D

Just a little tip Robertlamont80: If you live in a rural area or the southwest, call PowersportsMax.com or Bike2Go.com (they are both owned by Deeal Inc.) and have them check with their freight company (Dependable Highway Express) if they will deliver to your address. If not they will find you an alternative carrier.

If you don't have them check first DHE will just pick it up and take it wherever for a week or so! :lol:

[desert_drew]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!!!!!!!!

AZ200cc you forgot about the time zone, you're on Mountain time, I'm on Pacific... It arrived at 2:33 P.M.!!!! You better get more $$$ from Maury!

Perfect condition. unloading was a breeze, they sent it in a regular 3/4 ton van and we just slid it out the back right in my driveway.

102F in the shade right now and humidity is high so I have to work in spurts :lol:

Thanks again everyone for the support! :D

[parallax]

HELLS YEAH...that's what we all wanted to hear...finally!!

You must be so psyched!!

:lol: :lol:

Congrats...let me know if you have any assembly questions...since i just put one together i may be some assistance... :wink:

Welcome to the Shineray Speedee club...now there is two of us!! 8)

[parallax]

Oh yeah,

Don't forget to document!!

[katoranger]

Congrat's on the arrival. We will be expecting a ride report by morning. :lol:

Late night is cooler working.

I pulled a car engine today in 98 degree heat.

Allen

[AZ200cc]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!!!!!!!!

AZ200cc you forgot about the time zone, you're on Mountain time, I'm on Pacific... It arrived at 2:33 P.M.!!!! You better get more $$$ from Maury!

Perfect condition. unloading was a breeze, they sent it in a regular 3/4 ton van and we just slid it out the back right in my driveway.

102F in the shade right now and humidity is high so I have to work in spurts :lol:

Thanks again everyone for the support! :D

I can be a good guesser about some things, freaks people out sometimes.. :lol:

CONGRATS CONGRATS CONGRATS!

No ride report yet??!?!? What's up with that?? :lol:

[goldshadow]

Grats Drew!

[desert_drew]

IT LIVES!!! :D WOW!!! 8O

Even better than I expected! Report coming in a bit, watch for this thread - "Shineray DB-P12 'Speedee' 200cc (#2)"

[desert_drew]

Here it is:
2007 Shineray DB-P12 'Speedee' 200cc (#2) (http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2306&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)

Alex, I know I've already thanked you for your very thorough report but I feel it still isn't enough so...

THANK YOU ALEX!!!

[parallax]

You're very welcome drew!!

I'm totaly psyched for you... :lol:

[randy]

hmm, i just emailed powersportsmax.com and asked them which large dirt bikes were carb certified for ca. and this was thier reply--Dear customer,
Thanks for your email.
Sorry,we don't sale our bikes to California.
Thanks,
PowersportsMax.com

oh well.

[desert_drew]

Hi Randy,

See picture # 12 on the first page of this thread. The plate attached to the bike clearly states that this bike is emissions compliant for "off-highway" use in California. When I was having my shipping problems I asked if I could pick the bike up at their warehouse. I was told that I could not, They can only ship to CA addresses.

My understanding on this issue (although I may be wrong 8O ) is that each bike has to be green stickered individually. The CA Jap bike dealers either do this in bulk or get it done for them by the manufacturers. This doesn't pay off for the smaller power sports dealers as the majority of their sales are in other states.

Nobody is saying that you would be able to get this bike registered or even green stickered in CA. But it is emissions certified so a green sticker should be doable. Registration is another matter, but their are people who have managed to get other China bikes registered in CA. You just have to be willing to take the chance and jump through all the hoops!

In your thread about CARB certification (http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2262&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) this was stated by Brian...
The GY-5 from American Lifan is both EPA and CARB approved.
Thanks
_________________
MOTO Xtreme 3278 Stuarts Draft Hwy. Waynesboro, VA 22980
1-540-447-4376
www.motoxtreme.net
I don't want to steer you wrong so if you want to register in CA I think the American Lifan is your SURE BET!

[randy]

thanks for the message desert_drew, but the lifan is not carb certified. brian was not sure. when i emailed american lifan shawn said they might be carb in 2008 but as of now no. i did see the sticker on the speedy and if i cant wait this is looking like my next bike. when i bought my hensim from sunny sports in irvine they did the dmv work for the green sticker. but its been 5 months and i still dont have it. they said the paperwork was lost inthe mail and resubmitted it. yea i know.

[desert_drew]

Well at least that is cleared up about the AL NOT being CARB certified.

Thanks for looking into that deeper. Everybody here appreciates all the information that can be gathered.

Good luck! :D

[randy]

yeah, sometimes i feel like im the only one here trying to get a decient bike (for dirt) which has to be carbed. gets really frustrateing calling websites that think it doesnt matter but they can get in trouble selling to ca without the carb. and i will be stuck with a unregisterable bike.

[Robertlamont80]

Can you have bikes certified in CA? I thought I heard someone say they had a Lifan certified in CA. Not shur, I am from Michigan and evidently our local Gov. decided that since no one wants to live here, we might as well trash our air to!!!! :lol: 8O :cry:

[randy]

it has to come carb certified from the factory. if the bike is only epa,dot or so called carb but not giveing the specs of emmision info on the sticker you wont get a green sticker saying you can ride offroad all year round.

[randy]

hi desert_drew did your speedee come with the same sticker on the engine as paralaxs. thanks

[desert_drew]

Hi randy,

Yes, my DB-P12 has the same tag.

[randy]

just got off the phone with powersportsmax and they cant sell the db 12 speedee to ca becuse no spark arrestor in muffler. even the sticker on engine doesnt say ca. any more.

[katoranger]

Have you checked to see if you can add a spark arrester? I added one to my bike so that I was forest legal. Cheaper than the ticket.

Allen

[randy]

i told them thats the first thing i was going to do but they said no. they didnt want to get in trouble

[katoranger]

Would you be able to bring in a used bike from out of state that has already been registered and titled?

Allen

[bronevaya]

how hard is it to remove all of the plastic? I am seriously considering this bike, but I want it in flat black

[katoranger]

Plastic took me about 30 minutes to remove.

If you want to paint one it won't take long.

Allen

[ambassador]

Bron,
No need to remove the plastics, have a look at my bike in the Gallery (Ambassador), It's all flat black and people comment every time I ride it...