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tankme
07-21-2014, 12:09 PM
This topic is about the starter and getting it going again. The starter wires are cut at the handlebar assembly, and what I think are the corresponding wires going to the coil are burnt. I will attach the two pics of this. I still need to hunt the wires from the handlebar cut and tucked inside tape somewhere along the main harness.

To fix I'll be re-running these wires along the main harness if my experiments connecting them directly work. Do I need to hunt a pair of actual connectors or make my own? Is there any reason not to?

Thanks!
Jim

bogieboy
07-21-2014, 12:22 PM
you can use your own connectors... i would suggest insulated bullet style connectors... when i had to rewire my whole bike (i had a used harness to start with that needed help) thats what i used... quick, easy, clean looking.... i suggest the ones with heat shrink on the back side, as they are much more weather proof...

SpudRider
07-21-2014, 12:41 PM
You can definitely use your own connectors. :) Upon the advice of my best friend, a professional diesel mechanic with over 30 years of experience, I switched from bullet connectors to spade connectors. ;) I use these spade connectors for all the electrical connections on my motorcycles.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CTI0/85450/N0214.oap?ck=Search_spade+connectors_-1_3701&keyword=spade+connectors

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CTI0/85451/N0214.oap?ck=Search_spade+connectors_-1_3701&keyword=spade+connectors

The spade connectors never loosen from the harsh vibrations induced by riding off road. :tup:

bogieboy
07-21-2014, 12:45 PM
You can definitely use your own connectors. :) Upon the advice of my best friend, a professional diesel mechanic with over 30 years of experience, I switched from bullet connectors to spade connectors. ;) I use these spade connectors for all the electrical connections on my motorcycles.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CTI0/85450/N0214.oap?ck=Search_spade+connectors_-1_3701&keyword=spade+connectors

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CTI0/85451/N0214.oap?ck=Search_spade+connectors_-1_3701&keyword=spade+connectors

The spade connectors never loosen from the harsh vibrations induced by riding off road. :tup:

interesting... i have always had issues with spades loosening up... yet i never had issues with bullets loosening... i figured that if Honda and Suzuki thought them good enough, they would be good enough...LOL could be a case of personal experience....

SpudRider
07-21-2014, 12:58 PM
That's funny; I have had the opposite experience. ;) I have had the bullet connectors loosen, but never had spade connectors loosen. :lol:

bogieboy
07-21-2014, 01:30 PM
That's funny; I have had the opposite experience. ;) I have had the bullet connectors loosen, but never had spade connectors loosen. :lol:

interesting... perfect example i have...LOL the spade on my roketa's coil input loosened to the point of making the bike not run right, then not at all..LOL

tankme
07-21-2014, 03:28 PM
OOo Here's a fancy one--> like this one (http://www.jpcycles.com/product/382-391?utm_source=PLAs&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CN6S-biN178CFZJr7AodtxMAkw) that way no vibration issues and kind of matches the old one. $3 though.

I'm still looking around; I know there are simpler two wire auto/computer connectors by the dozen I'm not finding at the moment. On hand I do have crimp connectors of all sorts, shrink tubing and can use those if I can get away with it. :tup:

I'll report back!
Jim

Weldangrind
07-21-2014, 09:50 PM
Excellent sleuthing! By coil wires, do you mean solenoid wires?

I rewired my old Suzuki with bullet connectors, because that's what it came with originally. it was a '77 TS185 that would vibrate your fillings loose, and the connectors never failed.

Another alternative is to build your own Molex connectors. Not too spendy, and they're quite sturdy.

tankme
07-21-2014, 11:47 PM
Oh yes solenoid, the coil actually has all good wiring to and from.

I was rummaging through my box of computer parts and had several sets of molex connectors and went to molex.com, but I'll prolly use the regular old crimp-ons though, it is easy and no cash required. Woohoo I still haven't spent any cash!

I'll post pictures.
Jim

Weldangrind
07-22-2014, 01:29 AM
Woohoo I still haven't spent any cash!

You and I are gonna get along well.

tankme
07-22-2014, 05:41 PM
I think I heard "Make do, make it do, or do without"a million times growing up. It seems to have stuck as I am quite the resourceful packrat. I have a love/hate relationship with baling wire too. I'll even accept free motorcycles on the off chance I can get it to work. ;)

Jim

Weldangrind
07-22-2014, 09:47 PM
What you can't get to work can always be parted out or scrapped.