New Technology: LED Headlight Replacement Bulb

[SpudRider]

LED headlight bulbs have recently increased in brightness, and lowered in price. :) I discovered the Cyclops LED headlight bulb, and learned many riders are using this bulb, and like it. :tup: You can learn more about the Cyclops LED bulb at the following thread. ;)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=948701

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff18/cyclopsmotorsports/DSC_1862.jpg

However, the Cyclops LED bulb costs $60, and I don't want to pay that much. :wtf: Then I discovered the following thread. ;)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=976670

Searching eBay, I learned a variety of vendors are now selling the Nao M3/Moto3 LED bulb, which appears to be virtually identical to the Cyclops LED bulb. ;)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzE3WDcyNw==/z/bqYAAOSwhh5ToXPP/$_12.JPG

The LED headlight bulbs sold on eBay cost about $20-$25/ bulb, and this price was acceptable to me. :) Therefore, I placed an order for the following bulb, and I expect it to arrive this week. :tup:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301255212784?item=301255212784&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

After the bulb arrives I will experiment mounting it in my Zongshen 200GY-2, Honda CRF250X, and Honda XR650L. Needless to say, I will report on bulb fitment, bulb brightness, and the bulb's effectiveness in illuminating the road at night. ;)

[Weldangrind]

That's even less than Taobao, although I think you get two in the box:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.8.r6Qpr3&id=39342271520&ns=1#detail

[09Fx200Q]

That's a good price! Hope it works well.

[SpudRider]

That's even less than Taobao, although I think you get two in the box:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.8.r6Qpr3&id=39342271520&ns=1#detail

That's a different bulb, Weld. I was careful to try to purchase the same LED bulb which is getting excellent reviews on the ADVRider thread. ;) However, thanks for the tip regarding Taobao. :) I am getting ready to place my fourth order with the TaobaoTrends agent, and I will look for the Nao bulb at Taobao before I place my order.

[SpudRider]

That's a good price! Hope it works well.

Thank you. :) I could have ordered the same bulb from China, but I decided to pay $5 more to get the bulb delivered from California. ;) I hope the bulb will arrive this week, so I can begin testing it as soon as possible. :)

[humanbeing]

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22206559757

[SpudRider]

Thank you for posting the great link on Taobao, HumanBeing. :tup: Does the price of 75 Yuan include the following item, or does it cost extra?

http://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/70219394/TB2XTItXVXXXXbFXXXXXXXXXXXX-70219394.jpg

[humanbeing]

It's extra. You don't need that in modern bike (DC to headlight).
AC > DC15V, http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39026919843

[SpudRider]

It's extra. You don't need that in modern bike (DC to headlight).
AC > DC15V, http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39026919843

Thank you. I was pretty sure that AC/DC converter was an extra item, but I thought I would ask you to confirm my suspicions. ;)

I hope to receive my LED headlight bulb this week. If this LED bulb works as well as expected, I certainly plan to order more bulbs for my other motorcycles from the Taobao link you provided. :thanks:

[SpudRider]

Here are some comparison photographs contrasting a 55W/60, H4 halogen bulb with the LED headlight bulb.

Here is the road illuminated by the H4 halogen bulb on low beam.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/RickFi/V7/dipold_zpsf5103b0b.png

Here is the road illuminated by the LED bulb on low beam.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/RickFi/V7/dippednew_zpsa0b0e24f.png

Here is the road illuminated by the H4 halogen bulb on high beam.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/RickFi/V7/brightold_zpsb8973c5b.png

Here is the road illuminated by the LED bulb on high beam.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/RickFi/V7/brightnew_zps84ff6b35.png

The LED bulb is reported to generate more light at lower power consumption, along with a much longer service life of over 30,000 hours. :D

[Ogre81]

Something else to do when the storm 250 gets here

[09Fx200Q]

Wow that's a huge difference! I put LEDs in the dash of my Q, and one in the " night bulb" on the headlight as well. I guess I'll be ordering one of these if it works out for you spud!:tup:

[humanbeing]

...other motorcycles from the Taobao link you provided...
Above isn't the cheapest. Some shop offer FREE domestic shipping (包邮).
Keywords: LED | 大灯 (big light) | 三面 (3 side)
I take it as example because there's 3000k color temp (yellow) available.

[Weldangrind]

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22206559757

Thanks, HB. I might give that a try. :tup:

[SpudRider]

Above isn't the cheapest. Some shop offer FREE domestic shipping (包邮).
Keywords: LED | 大灯 (big light) | 三面 (3 side)
I take it as example because there's 3000k (yellow) available.

If you have time, please do post a link to the cheapest price for the 6000K, white bulb. ;) The white light from the 6000K, LED headlight bulb also helps you become more visible to other traffic during daylight hours. :) Here is a photograph showing the contrast between the low beam of the LED bulb, and the low beam of an H4 halogen bulb during daylight. ;)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff18/cyclopsmotorsports/P6280029.jpg

Here's a photograph of the same bike with two LED bulbs, both on high beam. :tup:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff18/cyclopsmotorsports/P6280032.jpg

[SpudRider]

Wow that's a huge difference! I put LEDs in the dash of my Q, and one in the " night bulb" on the headlight as well. I guess I'll be ordering one of these if it works out for you spud!:tup:

I paid $5 extra so I could get the LED bulb about two weeks earlier than if I had ordered it from China. ;) Initially, eBay said I would have the bulb on Thursday, but I think I will be lucky to get it on Saturday. :wtf: The bulb should arrive on Monday, at the latest. I am anxious to test it for fitment and performance on all three of my motorcycles, which employ three different reflectors. :)

[humanbeing]

...cheapest price for the 6000K, white bulb. ;) The white light from the 6000K...
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=40155480981

[SpudRider]

Thank you, HumanBeing. :)

[bogieboy]

i am loking at employing a pair of these in my aftermarket headlamp...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251561435636?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/KdkAAOSwBvNTnn2a/$_12.JPG

the headlamp i have is this one... i would NOT reccomend it though, as within the first 2 hrs of use, the weak BA20D bulbs melted holes in the top of the reflectors... hence why i am looking at bulbs that have integrated reflectors... i have also thought of converting it to a projector style headlight, but that would take a good bit of fab work... and i dont even have the bike in the same state yet...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Head-light-B2-lamp-dirt-bike-dual-sport-yamaha-wr-wrf-blue-fairing-number-plate-/321482085240?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad9d35378&vxp=mtr

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzAwWDI4NA==/$(KGrHqV,!l0E65N43oMOBP!z(gy3Eg~~60_35.JPG

[SpudRider]

Here is an interesting video which shows the difference in brightness when a 9V dry cell is connected to an H4 haogen bulb, and the Nao LED bulb. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCtPXZZy9Ek

[SpudRider]

It's time for an update. ;)

I received my LED headlight bulb two days ago. I was pleased to discover the bulb fits securely in the H6M bulb holder of my Honda CRF250X. :) However, I was disappointed to discover the bulb was too long; it pressed against the steering stem on the bike's frame. :ohno: The problem is caused by the LED driver, which is 12mm wide, and mounted on the back of the bulb. ;)

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/9/1/0/7/2/9/webimg/765239671_o.jpg?nc=489

Since I got this bulb primarily for my CRF250X, I decided to see if I could shave an angle cut off the driver to make it fit. That didn't work. :wtf:

Doing some more research, I discovered the newer version of the
Cyclops LED bulb has the driver separated from the bulb.

http://pootflame.smugmug.com/photos/i-4np2Ffv/0/M/i-4np2Ffv-M.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff18/cyclopsmotorsports/M3C.jpg

I found a 2-LED version of this bulb on eBay, but I want the brighter, 3-LED version of this bulb sold by Cyclops. :wtf:

I originally though the fan was needed to cool the LED driver, but I now realize the fan is used to cool only the LEDs themselves, which transmit heat through the aluminum housing which extends out the back of the headlight assembly. Hence, the newer, Cyclops version of this LED bulb separates the driver from the bulb, which shortens its length. ;)

Once I realized how the fan functions, I decided I could remove the driver from the back of the bulb, and tuck it above the headlight. I can cover the back of the fan with a thin piece of metal, or plastic, to protect the fan blades from catching a loose wire, et cetera. :tup:

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/9/1/0/7/2/9/webimg/765239669_o.jpg?nc=573

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/b1UAAOxyaURTgtzS/$_12.JPG

Removing the LED driver, I test fitted the bulb once again, and verified I have clearance between the end of the bulb and the steering stem on the frame. :tup: In fact, after removing the driver, this bulb extends only 35 mm from the headlight assembly, while the newer, Cyclops version extends 38.5 mm. :) However, I did need to order another bulb, since I destroyed the LED driver on the first one. :doh:

HumanBeing, can I order a separate LED driver from Taobao? If so, I can salvage the first LED headlight. :) If not, I will at least have a spare LED assembly, which I can always transfer to the second LED driver. ;)

[humanbeing]

What components is in there? Someone had electronics background may rebuild the F***ed one.

[SpudRider]

What components is in there? Someone had electronics background may rebuild the F***ed one.

The printed circuit board is buried in potting material; I'll never be able to dig it out. :ohno: I now have a spare LED bulb, minus the driver. ;)

[Weldangrind]

I'm quite surprised to hear about the fan. I wonder if the fan plus the LED draws the same current as the stock headlight. Any thoughts?

[humanbeing]

I'm quite surprised to hear about the fan...
http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/led-insights/4422914/Cooling-high-power-LEDs--The-four-myths-about-active-vs--passive-methods
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http://www.autoledheadlight.com/upload/image/20140513/20140513010149644964.png
http://www.autoledheadlight.com/upload/image/20140513/20140513005960746074.png

[SpudRider]

I'm quite surprised to hear about the fan. I wonder if the fan plus the LED draws the same current as the stock headlight. Any thoughts?

The fan and LED draw less power, and produce more useful light, than a standard, H4 incandescent bulb. :)

[Weldangrind]

That's good news. Since Lifanda has an aftermarket headlight that I mounted to a custom bracket, I should have plenty of room.

[Lucien]

It´s been a long time! I just got this LED headlight bulb for $35 us dollars, the low beam uses 12 watts, high beam 18 watts, I´ll let you guys know how the install, and function works out...

[Weldangrind]

Thanks! I'm looking forward to your findings.

[SpudRider]

It's good to hear from you again. :) I got the same bulb, and started the following thread. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=13947

[Lucien]

Hi Spud, I´m sorry i didn´t notice you started a thread with the same topic...
Please feel free to merge it..

I checked the bulb before installing it, in low beam only two out of three leds light up, in high beam all three light up, is this the way is supposed to be?

[SpudRider]

No problema, Lucien. ;) Yes, the top two LEDs are lit for low beam, and all three LEDs are lit for high beam. :)

[SpudRider]

This afternoon I installed my MotoLED M3 headlight bulb. :)

In preparation for the installation, I removed the bullet connectors, and soldered spade connectors to the headlight wires. I removed the LED driver from the end of the fan, and I placed a piece of plastic over the end of the fan to keep the fan blades from snagging any wires behind the headlight. I also secured the wires leading from the driver and the bulb with zip ties to prevent them from being damaged if they were pulled. Next, I secured the LED driver to a convenient wire holder attached to the headlight shroud of my CRF250X.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb097_zpse5e49bd4.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb097_zpse5e49bd4.jpg.ht ml)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb099_zps08c87084.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb099_zps08c87084.jpg.ht ml)

After test fitting the headlight shroud, I discovered the bulb fan was still hitting the steering stem of the frame. :ohno: Therefore, I removed the bulb from the headlight shroud, and unscrewed the plastic from the bottom of the fan. I trimmed the bottom of the fan with my trusty, Harbor Freight angle grinder. ;) I also trimmed the plastic which covers the end of the fan, and screwed it back onto the fan. I then re-installed the LED bulb assembly into the fan shroud, and test fitted the assembly once again.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb102_zps6c7a8264.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb102_zps6c7a8264.jpg.ht ml)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb105_zpsf542ffe5.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb105_zpsf542ffe5.jpg.ht ml)

This time I had good clearance with the steering stem. :tup: Wishing to test the headlight, I went riding the pavement for 40 miles to the trail head of some technical dual track. Along the way I noticed the oncoming motorists were giving me a nice, wide berth as we passed each other. :tup:

The LED bulb and headlight assembly easily survived the tough trail without any damage. :) Just before I arrived home, I stopped to take daytime photographs of the headlight output. Here is a photo of the headlight on low beam.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb112_zps11313bec.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb112_zps11313bec.jpg.ht ml)

Here is a photograph of the headlight on high beam. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb114_zps30e644c2.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb114_zps30e644c2.jpg.ht ml)

This headlight is very bright. In fact, even during daylight I prefer to wear sunglasses while looking into the headlight. ;)

After sunset I went for short ride of about six miles. This headlight casts a pleasant white light with superb illumination of the sides of the road, as well as the road ahead. :tup:

The output from the stock, incandescent headlight bulb is pitiful. :tdown: I replaced the stock bulb with a Tusk Super White Bulb, which was greatly superior to the stock bulb. :)

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1156/23126/Tusk-Super-White-Bulb?v=10483

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/images/prod/400/t/tusk_09_rep_bul.jpg

The MotoLED M3 bulb is vastly superior to the Tusk Super White Bulb. :tup: I am very pleased with this LED bulb. It has lived up to my high expectations, and I can confidently recommend it to others who are seeking superior lighting. :tup:

[Lucien]

No problema, Lucien. ;) Yes, the top two LEDs are lit for low beam, and all three LEDs are lit for high beam. :)

Thanks Spud!!!

[zingshoen]

great modification, spudrider! on my to-do-list as of now...

[Weldangrind]

I'm really impressed with the headlight that I installed on Lifanda, and I've made no changes to it. The light not only lights up the road well on low beam, but it also lights up the ditches to the sides. I'd be amazed to see an LED headlight do even better.

I think I'll give it a try. :D

[SpudRider]

great modification, spudrider! on my to-do-list as of now...

I'm really impressed with the headlight that I installed on Lifanda, and I've made no changes to it. The light not only lights up the road well on low beam, but it also lights up the ditches to the sides. I'd be amazed to see an LED headlight do even better.

I think I'll give it a try. :D

Thank you, gentlemen. :) The important factor to consider is whether or not you have enough space behind the headlight assembly for the LED bulb to fit. ;) All the measurements for the bulb are included in this post. If the LED bulb will fit, you won't be sorry you got it. :tup:

If you are placing an order with Taobao, include one or two of these LED bulbs in your purchase. :) If you aren't placing an order with Taobao, you can order these bulbs on eBay for $19, but you will need to wait for them to arrive from China. ;) If you are willing to spend $24-$26, you can buy these bulbs on eBay with delivery from the United States.

Make sure you get the genuine bulb; beware of the copycats. ;) The LED bulb I bought is a genuine, Nao M3 bulb. :tup: The genuine bulb will have the following information inscribed on the base.

MOTOLED
ZL-201320651208.3

http://img2.buyincoins.com/gallery3/1/f3/58014/058014-1-04.jpg

The authentic bulb will also have the following sticker on the base of the LED driver. ;)

http://img2.buyincoins.com/gallery3/1/f3/58014/058014-1-05.jpg

[SpudRider]

These LED headlight bulbs are waterproof, as proven in the following video. :tup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbY-Xk4y6_k

[Weldangrind]

These LED headlight bulbs are waterproof, as proven in the following video. :tup:

That was my next question. :D

[SpudRider]

As long as the extended length of this LED bulb will fit into your headlight shroud, you can't go wrong by purchasing one of these bulbs. :) These LED bulbs have a service life of 30,000 hours. :tup: Whether you purchase this bulb from Taobao for $13, plus shipping, or from eBay for $19, delivered, it represents an exceptional value. :)

The brilliant light from this bulb makes you more visible, and safer, in both daylight and darkness. The amazing, extended life of the bulb also allows it to pay for itself rather quickly. ;) I was paying $10/bulb for the incandescent, Tusk Super White bulbs, and was happy to do so, since I could at least ride somewhat safely at night. These bulbs offer far greater illumination, and safety, and will probably outlast most motorcycles, yet they only cost twice as much as the Tusk Super White bulb. After riding about 10,000 miles on my CRF250X, I am currently using my third or fourth, Tusk Super White bulb. ;)

[dossbag]

Cool... thanks for the tip! :)

[SpudRider]

You're welcome. :)

[humanbeing]

Make sure you get the genuine bulb; beware of the copycats. ;) The LED bulb I bought is a genuine...
Official shop:
M3 http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39023496395 | M3C http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39025844453

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the links to the official Nao sites at Taoabo, HumanBeing. :)

[Ogre81]

Mine came in DOA so hopefully they will supply another. I'll post pics if I ever get a good one.

[SpudRider]

I'm sorry to hear of the DOA bulb. :tdown:

My LED bulb is working great! I can actually see at night, and no longer fear overriding my headlight. :tup: My LED headlight also comforted me two nights ago as I was descending a rutted fire road in the dimming twilight. :)

[mrpete]

Crazy BRIGHT!. Hurts my eyes just looking at all the sample pictures being shown.

[SpudRider]

Crazy BRIGHT!. Hurts my eyes just looking at all the sample pictures being shown.

I love this LED bulb. :tup: I am much more visible to motorists during daylight, and the bulb superbly illuminates the road at night. :)

[Lucien]

No problema, Lucien. ;) Yes, the top two LEDs are lit for low beam, and all three LEDs are lit for high beam. :)

I apologize for taking so long, but here is my Motoled LED Bulb, and yes it is a big difference, I believe this is the most efficient headlight bulb i have ever tried

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the update, Lucien. :) I knew you would love the LED bulb. As long as it fits in the headlight shroud, I can't see how anyone would not love this bulb. :tup:

[Weldangrind]

Lucien, do you have another LED light mounted above the headlight?

BTW, I like your carbon fiber hand guards.

[Lucien]

Lucien, do you have another LED light mounted above the headlight?

BTW, I like your carbon fiber hand guards.

Affirmative Weld, is a pair of automotive LED auxiliary lights, mounted one on top of another, bonded together with superstrong double sided tape, i use them as day lights.
BTW those are not handguards, they are my rearview mirrors...

Modding it little by little, anyway my front fender just split in two, lost half of it in the highway, need to replace it...

[Weldangrind]

Yes, I see now that it's a mirror. It's still cool.

I recommend that you try a supermoto fender; they don't grab the air as much.

[Lucien]

Yes, I see now that it's a mirror. It's still cool.

I recommend that you try a supermoto fender; they don't grab the air as much.

Thanks for the advice and fast reply!!!

[Diggy]

Thanks for posting the update, Lucien. :) I knew you would love the LED bulb. As long as it fits in the headlight shroud, I can't see how anyone would not love this bulb. :tup:

I was reading these threads, I hear that this bulk rocks. Could you give me some more info about the bulb/headlight that I can get to make this work for my bike.. Those three links you sent me about the Baja headlight, will one of these bulbs fit into it?

Also my bike manual says this 12V 35W/35W
Will this be enough power to support that Baja headlight and that bulb?

I want to order my headlight and maybe that bulb if everyone is saying it kicks ass and its the best thing they have ever seen for night time riding.

Thanks Spud!

I just want to make 100% sure before I order.

[SpudRider]

Yes, this LED bulb will fit into the BD headlight, and your stator is producing enough power for it. However, you might not have enough space behind the headlight for the bulb to fit without hitting something. :shrug:

[humanbeing]

...not have enough space behind the headlight for the bulb to fit without hitting something...
M3C http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39025844453
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311151021932

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the links to the newer, M3C version of the bulb, Humanbeing. :tup: I'm glad to see the M3C version is now being sold at eBay and Taobao. :)

[culcune]

Lucien--off the subject a little bit; I was ran off the road on Saturday and have a broken shoulder and bruised ribs. I probably won't be making the Baja 1000 run in a few weeks, but still plan a trip across the border. What about San Felipe?

[SpudRider]

Here are two other links for the M3C (compact) version of the LED bulb being sold on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-Headlight-6000K-18W-Hi-12W-Lo-Light-Set-For-Harley-Motorcycle-Motorbike-7M-/311131146730?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4870dc89ea&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/18W-Hi-12W-Lo-6000K-White-LED-Headlight-For-Harley-Davidson-Motorcycle-Motorbike-/291252426015?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43cfff551f&vxp=mtr

[Lucien]

Lucien--off the subject a little bit; I was ran off the road on Saturday and have a broken shoulder and bruised ribs. I probably won't be making the Baja 1000 run in a few weeks, but still plan a trip across the border. What about San Felipe?

Hi culcune, I´m sorry to hear about your accident, hope you have a quick, full recovery, when is the San Felipe Race?
Also take in consideration that´s a lot more distance to get there, anyway let´s do some more planning via PM..

[humanbeing]

NEW product claims light pattern & brightness better than "3-sided".
Maker: http://www.sl138.com/
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=42885004568 | http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=42839885405

[SpudRider]

Thank you for informing us of the new version of this LED bulb, Humanbeing. :tup:

[BLACK DEATH]

I need one of these for my bike.
I bet they don't have my bulb type.
I need a dual filament.
How good are these?

[BLACK DEATH]

Also what all wattages do they make?
My charging system and battery aren't the best on the clone z50.
They made these with a weak stator when charging The battery & I don't know if putting a high wattage led on DC current will down the battery.
My lights run off the stator except the brake light wich runs DC current.

[SpudRider]

LEDs require direct current, so you can't run an LED bulb directly from the stator. You will need to purchase a rectifier if you wish to use an LED bulb with your bike's electrical system. ;)

My bulb lights 2 LEDs on low beam, and 3 LEDs on high beam. I think my bulb draws about 20 watts on high beam. You can check the rest of the thread, and the eBay links to verify that data. ;)

[humanbeing]

My charging system and battery aren't the best ...
Upgrade to ALL DC config isn't hard. There's "stronger" ready made stator w/o ANY [IGN Source Coil] http://www.dansmc.com/electricaltesting.htm + New DC-CDI & rec

[SpudRider]

Thank you for contributing that information, Humanbeing. :) I installed a new stator in my Honda CRF250X, and converted that motorcycle to a 100 percent, direct current system. That is the reason I could install an LED headlight in that motorcycle without installing a rectifier. Indeed, Black Death can do the same. Incidentally, I didn't need to change my CDI unit, and he might not need to change his CDI unit, either. ;) However, many people, if not most people, will find it easier to install a rectifier. One can purchase the rectifier at Taobao, as is shown earlier in this thread. :)

http://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/70219394/TB2XTItXVXXXXbFXXXXXXXXXXXX-70219394.jpg

[humanbeing]

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorfans.com.cn%2Fbbs%2Fviewth read.php%3Ftid%3D17429596%26extra%3D%26originator% 3Dyes&sandbox=1 Join coils together :tup:

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the excellent link, Humanbeing. :)

As the link shows, one also needs to install a larger regulator/rectifier (RR) along with the new stator. My new, larger stator retained the exciter coil for the stock, AC-CDI unit, so I didn't need to change the CDI unit for my Honda CRF250X. I bought a Trail Tech stator, with a larger regulator/rectifier to convert my Honda to a pure, direct current (DC) system.

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1156/20359/Trail-Tech-Complete-Stator-Kit?v=2824

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/images/prod/400/t/tra_08_com_sta_kit_100w_yfz.jpg

[humanbeing]

As the link shows, one also needs to install a larger regulator/rectifier (RR) along with the new stator...
NO new stator in that link
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmotocity.com.tw%2Fgp1%2Fviewtopic.p hp%3Ft%3D164084&edit-text=

[BLACK DEATH]

My bike has a rectifier to charge the battery.
I can re wire the bike to run on DC current for the headlights & tail lights but only with LEDs so they will draw minimal wattage.
Well, let me rephrase that. The tail light will draw minimal current.
The LEDs with higher wattage will draw some current & may slowly drain the battery at idle.

[SpudRider]

Yes, you can connect the LED headlight directly to the battery, but the 20W load will quickly drain your battery, and eventually ruin it. That's why I suggested you install the rectifier designed for the LED, which will continue to power your headlight from the lighting coil of the stator, as the motorcycle was designed to do. This is the simplest, least expensive way to safely run the brighter, LED headlight. You merely connect the headlight rectifier in series with the current wiring to the headlight. ;)

http://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/70219394/TB2XTItXVXXXXbFXXXXXXXXXXXX-70219394.jpg

[BLACK DEATH]

How much is that one you posted spudrider?
I wonder how many watts I can get away with on an led headlight bulb?
I never ride it at night, only daytime riding so high output isn't really necessary

[humanbeing]

Found it in English finally.
http://mastercircuits.blogspot.com/2012/07/half-wave-to-full-wave-conversion.html

[SpudRider]

How much is that one you posted spudrider?
I wonder how many watts I can get away with on an led headlight bulb?
I never ride it at night, only daytime riding so high output isn't really necessary

You can buy the LED rectifier from Cyclops Adventure Sports, in the United States, for $19.95, plus shipping.

http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/Rectifier-for-LED-Light-Module_p_85.html

If you search Tabao.com, you can find the same units for 50 Yuan ($8.10), plus the shipping cost from China. ;)

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39026919843

[humanbeing]

Rec + 3-sided package: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=40079408734

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the good deal, Humanbeing. :)

[edtardo]

Spud, you always find awesome mods for us to try. I need to get one of these bulbs. I wonder if they will fit in a Polisport mmx headlight.

[SpudRider]

Thank you for the kind words, Ed. :)

I suppose the only way to check fitment is to take a chance, and buy the bulb. :shrug: That's the process I needed to follow, but the results are so good, I'm glad I took the risk. :)

[edtardo]

I will def be getting the bulb. I will make it work one way or another lol

[SpudRider]

I will def be getting the bulb. I will make it work one way or another lol

Good for you. :) That's what I did. ;) I needed to remove the driver, and trim the aluminum heat sink, but I made the bulb fit, and it works great. :tup:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CRF250X%20Headlight/VariousAugustRidesandLEDbulb105_zpsf542ffe5.jpg

[SpudRider]

You can also make spacers and move the headlight shield farther from the bike's frame. ;) Indeed, where there is a will, there is a way. :)

[guttafixit]

Sorry for bringing this post back up. But that is 1 of the upgrades I want to do. Just read the full post and I'm going to do this. Like Spud said if there's a will there's always a way!!
I knew I saw this somewhere and holy cow it was right here on the forum. :lmao:
I have read so much stuff in the last week that my mind is going :crazy:.
I will look tomorrow and see if I have a rectifier on my bike. If I do then I will buy the LED rectifier from Cyclops Adventure Sports. Like you posted.
Sounds like i just need the NAO M3 led & LED rectifier. And some mods to the headlight housing. I looked on ebay and didn't see any. I will find 1.
Thank you Spud for starting this thread.
Dan
2006 Lifan LF200GY-5

[SpudRider]

Here is a link to some of the LED bulbs for sale on eBay. :)

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X18W+Hi+12 W+Lo+Switchable+LED+Headlight+Lamp&_nkw=18W+Hi+12W+Lo+Switchable+LED+Headlight+Lamp&_sacat=0

Check the measurements to see which bulb is shortest, and search for the best deal. ;)

[SpudRider]

Making a quick search, the following bulb looks like a good deal. :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/18W-6000K-Motorcycle-Motorbike-LED-Headlamp-Headlight-Hi-Lo-Beam-Bulb-Conversion-/281489841683?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item418a1a1e13&vxp=mtr

[SpudRider]

The LED bulbs certainly run much cooler than incandescent halogen bulbs. :tup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC8Df0sC4rI

[SpudRider]

I am still loving the LED headlight in my Honda CRF250X. :tup: I found this video of a KTM owner in Europe riding a curvy country road with a similar LED headlight. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1p-zoeBlUY

[humanbeing]

...video of a KTM owner in Europe ...
EU? Driving on left / in English / Warning sign's style & other video from him. I suggest he's a kiwi.

[SpudRider]

EU? Driving on left / in English / Warning sign's style & other video from him. I suggest he's a kiwi.

My mistake; I didn't watch long enough to see the signs in English. :hehe:

[kirkallen143]

For those of you that have done a successful install, are the colored wires as follows: white--low beam, blue--hi beam, and green--ground? I have mine installed this way and "lighty no worky." I do have a rect/reg wired in single phase with all instrument grounds isolated to the neg (-) side of the battery only. Only the rect/reg is grounded to the frame (one of the yellow wires coming from it, other yellow goes to stator). Maybe it is just a bad bulb, just my luck as always. Thanks and appreciate any help.

Kirk

[SpudRider]

Welcome, we are glad you joined us. :hi: I'm sorry to hear you are having problems with the LED installation.

Yes, the wires coming from the LED bulb are color coded in this manner.

Blue: High Beam
White: Low Beam
Green: Ground

[humanbeing]

Found a "wiredo" rec for AC lighting bike http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22211028618 | Reseller explained more clearly http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39272228687
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Get some extra 6.3 female connector if the old one don't matches NEW reg ...

[hect75]

LED headlight bulbs have recently increased in brightness, and lowered in price. :) I discovered the Cyclops LED headlight bulb, and learned many riders are using this bulb, and like it. :tup: You can learn more about the Cyclops LED bulb at the following thread. ;)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=948701

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff18/cyclopsmotorsports/DSC_1862.jpg

However, the Cyclops LED bulb costs $60, and I don't want to pay that much. :wtf: Then I discovered the following thread. ;)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=976670

Searching eBay, I learned a variety of vendors are now selling the Nao M3/Moto3 LED bulb, which appears to be virtually identical to the Cyclops LED bulb. ;)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzE3WDcyNw==/z/bqYAAOSwhh5ToXPP/$_12.JPG

The LED headlight bulbs sold on eBay cost about $20-$25/ bulb, and this price was acceptable to me. :) Therefore, I placed an order for the following bulb, and I expect it to arrive this week. :tup:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301255212784?item=301255212784&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

After the bulb arrives I will experiment mounting it in my Zongshen 200GY-2, Honda CRF250X, and Honda XR650L. Needless to say, I will report on bulb fitment, bulb brightness, and the bulb's effectiveness in illuminating the road at night. ;)

Spud, do you know the stator´s wattage output (zongsheng sierra)?

[SpudRider]

Spud, do you know the stator´s wattage output (zongsheng sierra)?

No, I don't know the wattage output of the ZS200GY-2 stator. :shrug:

[bogieboy]

I bought similar bulbs for my bike, they are not the exact same design, but the light output is quite supurb.... here's the lowbeam at 50 yds at night...


http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/bogieboy01/IMG_20150825_203712_087_zpssznh0kus.jpg (http://s662.photobucket.com/user/bogieboy01/media/IMG_20150825_203712_087_zpssznh0kus.jpg.html)

and here is the highbeam frim the same distance...


http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu346/bogieboy01/IMG_20150825_203735_961_zpsbuwqbx1b.jpg (http://s662.photobucket.com/user/bogieboy01/media/IMG_20150825_203735_961_zpsbuwqbx1b.jpg.html)


and here is the bulb I used...


http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=181589909066&alt=web

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the update. :)

That is the shorter, compact version of the original bulb. I just installed the same LED bulb, from another manufacturer, in the headlight of my Zongshen RX3. :)

[bogieboy]

I am very happy with mine.... it transformed a worthless headlight housing into something halfway decent.... I would love to see a pair of these in properly shaped/focused reflector housings instead of a $30 ebay POS....