New Bashan DB08-250

[Ogre81]

Well here she is in all her orange glory. It smells just like Harbor Freight. I did not have much time today so more to follow over the weekend.

[culcune]

Orange bikes = faster bike!! (huh, spud ;))

[SpudRider]

We love to see photos of the bike in the crate. :tup: That's a beautiful orange, which is indeed, the fastest color. :)

:lol:

[Dave_D]

Looks great. Can't wait to see the build

Dave

[Weldangrind]

It smells just like Harbor Freight.

That made me laugh out loud. :D I can identify with that smell.

[SpudRider]

I love that smell! :tup:

:hehe:

[dossbag]

Awesome dude... Any instructions? Can't wait to see your progress and hear your thoughts.
My people called me yesterday and offered to send me a new tank fairing, and new gas cap and a new pipe header. I was very pleased with the service. No quibbles at all.
Orange looks good.... too many black bikes out there anyway :)

[katoranger]

That smell is all too familiar. Looking forward to a harbor freight visit later today.

I love the orange.

[Weldangrind]

My people called me yesterday and offered to send me a new tank fairing, and new gas cap and a new pipe header. I was very pleased with the service. No quibbles at all.

Awesome news! Glad to hear they stepped up.

[SpudRider]

...My people called me yesterday and offered to send me a new tank fairing, and new gas cap and a new pipe header. I was very pleased with the service. No quibbles at all...

Awesome news! Glad to hear they stepped up.

X2. :tup:

[Ogre81]

Awesome dude... Any instructions? Can't wait to see your progress and hear your thoughts.
My people called me yesterday and offered to send me a new tank fairing, and new gas cap and a new pipe header. I was very pleased with the service. No quibbles at all.
Orange looks good.... too many black bikes out there anyway :)

No instructions with mine either I'll just make mine like like yours and it will be OK. Is the header pipe going to be without the catalyst egg?

[culcune]

These bikes look overwhelming when you first look at them out of the crate, but once it goes together, you think to yourself--"I could do it again for a friend, no problem!"

Remember--do not squeeze your brakes (I think they may have a little wedge holding them open (your rear wheel might be already attached, like my TMEC was, so you only have to worry about the front...)

Also, once it is together, DO NOT start the bike up...change the oily-stuff first. You might be able to use it on your salad, but it has no place in a bike's engine other than shipping. My TMEC specifies a liter of oil, but your engine might be a quart--it should be mentioned somewhere on one of the information plates attached to your swingarm or near the neck of the frame (also, what weight of oil).

Other things will come to me, once you are building it and posting, so I will offer more advice and suggestions, but dossbag will be your greatest source since he already put one of them together!

[dossbag]

No instructions with mine either I'll just make mine like like yours and it will be OK. Is the header pipe going to be without the catalyst egg?

I doubt the header will be any different, I asked if I had to send anything back, they so no.. the pics were good and they don't need them, which means I'm free to experiment with the grinder / welder.. a little "weldandgrind" of my own hehe

I changed the oil out pretty quickly. Instead of pulling the nut right away, I popped the filter nut and cleaned some fillings out, then did the main drain plug. I put 20-50 Syn Mobil 1 V twin.. Cos I had some lying around. It's "reasonably" clean still after 500km.. Although my speedo quit again tonight! grrr.. :doh:

[dossbag]

*Pulls up a chair* I think I need some popcorn...

Suspense is killing me!! :clap: :clap:

Is it ready yet... is it ready yet :lol:

[Ogre81]

Not yet I'm out of commission with a nasty sinus infection. Trust me its all I can think about but if I rest I'm only sick for a few days if I work I'm sick for a week. It's fluids,rest and antibiotics for me right now.

[dossbag]

Not yet I'm out of commission with a nasty sinus infection. Trust me its all I can think about but if I rest I'm only sick for a few days if I work I'm sick for a week. It's fluids,rest and antibiotics for me right now.

Arrgh... that sucks!! OK, np, get well soon... it's not going anywhere :)

[Weldangrind]

Not yet I'm out of commission with a nasty sinus infection. Trust me its all I can think about but if I rest I'm only sick for a few days if I work I'm sick for a week. It's fluids,rest and antibiotics for me right now.

That's a good plan. Feel better soon.

[SpudRider]

Not yet I'm out of commission with a nasty sinus infection. Trust me its all I can think about but if I rest I'm only sick for a few days if I work I'm sick for a week. It's fluids,rest and antibiotics for me right now.

You are wise to rest. :) I hope you feel better soon.

[culcune]

Not yet I'm out of commission with a nasty sinus infection. Trust me its all I can think about but if I rest I'm only sick for a few days if I work I'm sick for a week. It's fluids,rest and antibiotics for me right now.

This isn't just all about you...there are several of us waiting to see your orange bike up and running, and a few sniffles shouldn't stop us from this!! You are just being selfish

:) OK, yes, kidding!! Feel better....

[Ogre81]

Thanks for the kind words all. With everything going on right now I'll do my best to have it ready by the weekend.

[Ogre81]

Had a spare hour tonight so got a little bit done. The wiring is terrible so I spent some time fixing that. Lots more to do.

[SpudRider]

You are wise to fix the wiring now, rather than having problems later. ;)

[Ogre81]

Anyone have any suggestions for torque specs for the bike's fastners? Maybe a Japanese bike repair manual to use as a reference? THANKS!

[2LZ]

Anyone have any suggestions for torque specs for the bike's fastners? Maybe a Japanese bike repair manual to use as a reference? THANKS!

If I recall, the axles on my Q were 45 lb(?). I'd not go too terribly tight on the fastners but use loc-tite. My experience with Chinese fasteners, especially on my Hondanoids has been that they are FAR softer metal than their Japanese counterparts. Some small bolts are very easy to spin a head off or strip them with just a small 10mm wrench.

[Ogre81]

Got a lot done today still have a few small bits to take care of.

[Ogre81]

Dossbag you were right the egg has to go. The speedo leaves much to be desired as well but otherwise its great fun.

[SpudRider]

That's a good looking motorcycle; I like the orange color scheme. :)

[zingshoen]

i agree, she s looking good! are u planning any modifications?

[Ogre81]

That's a good looking motorcycle; I like the orange color scheme. :)

We need to run dossbag's green versus my orange to confirm the orange adds 5hp theory.

[Ogre81]

i agree, she s looking good! are u planning any modifications?

Thanks. I will do an epa delete and a powercore muffler at some point. A mikuni 30mm will follow soon after. After that just things to make the bike safer and more reliable.

[Ogre81]

Spud, Any thoughts about fitting a larger capacity tank to it?

[SpudRider]

How large is the fuel tank? If you have anywhere near 3 gallons, you are in good shape. :)

[dossbag]

Looks like I missed the fun... Looking good. Mine does 68mph.. depending on if you push the toy speedo forwards or backwards. *shrug* I should put the GPS on it and find out for sure. I suspect Green to be faster.. something to do with the doppler shift, but who knows lol

[Ogre81]

Spent sometime on the trails around the home place. It handles well pretty happy so far.

[dossbag]

Yep.. looks at home there.. I have a dumbass moment to confess to.. I adjusted the back brake so I barely had to touch it (which is the way I like it) unfortunately it tightened itself up as I was riding and I thought I had engine trouble. After stopping and smelling the unmistakable smell, I tried to release it but it was jammed. I unscrewed the cap from the reservoir (for some reason) and fiddled around and eventually freed it and set off again. FORGOT to tighten the cap for the brake fluid and lost the cap and rubber seal. I did find a complete actuator, hoses and reservoir for 8.50 shipped on line. I have a cap from a thinners can on it right now.
Old age.. it's a scary thing :crazy:

[zingshoen]

I suspect Green to be faster.. something to do with the doppler shift, but who knows lol
AFAIK green is faster in humid conditions, due to the synergy coefficient. a colour blind adapter (www.taobao.com/colourblind_adapter), if installed, levels that advantage to a point.

[Weldangrind]

I really like that colour. Nice machine.

[SpudRider]

That really is a good looking bike. :) Thanks for posting a photo of your motorcycle in its native habitat. :tup:

[culcune]

We need to run dossbag's green versus my orange to confirm the orange adds 5hp theory.

That will definitely, scientifically prove it once and for all--maybe get the guys from Mythbusters in there, too... :)

[Ogre81]

How large is the fuel tank? If you have anywhere near 3 gallons, you are in good shape. :)

Its 3 gallons. Any reccomendations on better mirrors?

[SpudRider]

Its 3 gallons. Any reccomendations on better mirrors?

I wouldn't mess with the fuel tank. If the carburetor is jetted properly, you should get about 75 mpg, and have a very nice range with a 3-gallon tank. :tup:

I really like the Ken Sean/Bikemaster Dual Sport Mirrors. The offer an excellent view to the rear, and fold away for off road riding. I have installed them on my Zong, CRF250X, and XR650L; I love them. :tup:

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=12372

The Ken Sean mirrors come with installation instructions; the Bikemaster mirrors do not. Other than the instructions, these two mirrors are identical. Shop for the best price. ;)

http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/Ken-Sean-Dual-Sport-Mirror-Yamaha-Right-Hand-970-p/4155274.htm?Click=35177

https://www.denniskirk.com/dk/product_images/dk/290pix/dk391305.jpg

I suggest you avoid the Emgo copy mirrors; they are cheaper, but they are not built as well. :tdown:

[Ogre81]

Thanks Spud. She starts very rough cold but I'll hold off on playing with the carb till I remove the smog junk as I'll have to make some adjustments then. I may put the 30mm mikuni on there as I think I'll have more jets available to me.

I wouldn't mess with the fuel tank. If the carburetor is jetted properly, you should get about 75 mpg, and have a very nice range with a 3-gallon tank. :tup:

I really like the Ken Sean/Bikemaster Dual Sport Mirrors. The offer an excellent view to the rear, and fold away for off road riding. I have installed them on my Zong, CRF250X, and XR650L; I love them. :tup:

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=12372

The Ken Sean mirrors come with installation instructions; the Bikemaster mirrors do not. Other than the instructions, these two mirrors are identical. Shop for the best price. ;)

http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/Ken-Sean-Dual-Sport-Mirror-Yamaha-Right-Hand-970-p/4155274.htm?Click=35177

https://www.denniskirk.com/dk/product_images/dk/290pix/dk391305.jpg

I suggest you avoid the Emgo copy mirrors; they are cheaper, but they are not built as well. :tdown:

[2LZ]

Its 3 gallons. Any reccomendations on better mirrors?

You have the same Power Ranger-looking mirrors that my Q has. I just tweaked them way out sideways. One can see around my shoulder. The other is for visual effect only.
Really like the bike and the color. I have similar tires on my Q and really like them a lot. Suitable for trails and really nice on paved twisties.

[Ogre81]

Took

[SpudRider]

Fuel on the crotch is not a good thing. :ohno:

[katoranger]

Don't smoke.

[SpudRider]

Amen! :wtf:

:hehe:

[culcune]

Come to think of it, the N.American rep for Bashan started posting a couple months ago on mychinamoto. Maybe join there and see if he would respond to your concerns.

'xpowersports' is his nickname. I almost fandangled a test bike out of him--he was supposed to speak with his distributors here in the US when he came to visit in June to ask if they were willing to part with one since I posted how happy I was with my TMEC (I really wanted a 250 in orange ;)). I also tried to get him in touch with Wade at Excalibur since he was going to be in L.A. for a week or so (I think he was meeting with SSR), but Wade was busy and they did not meet.

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?6848-Bashan-BS200GY-18

[jjn]

Subscribed!

[blueberry]

hey guys im new! i have ordered the bs200gy18 black its on its way!

[katoranger]

Welcome blueberry.

[Ogre81]

hj

[Weldangrind]

hey guys im new! i have ordered the bs200gy18 black its on its way!

Welcome! Please start a new thread and show us pics when it arrives.

[Weldangrind]

Fixed the running issue it was a loose connection at the cdi. I'm gonna make an extra o ring to fix the leaking tank.

Good news! A spare CDI is a really good idea, for troubleshooting if nothing else.

[SpudRider]

hey guys im new! i have ordered the bs200gy18 black its on its way!

Welcome, and congratulations on your purchase. :tup: Please do start a new thread when your bike arrives. We give extra credit for photos. ;)

[SpudRider]

Fixed the running issue it was a loose connection at the cdi. I'm gonna make an extra o ring to fix the leaking tank.

:tup:

[dossbag]

Sorry to hear about the leaky filler.. Looks like mine wasn't an one off. I told them about it and they will send me a new cap.. if they ever get them in stock? I received my left hand cowling which had the green stripped off it due to the fuel.

Not sure a new cap is the answer.. Cap has to breathe, but as it's so deep and the tank is pressurized, then it seems inevitable that gas will get blown out. My main concern was that it poured onto the infamous "egg" that gets very very hot.. I think I was just a few degrees away from a nasty moment to be honest. Watching gas turn to steam between my legs was very unnerving.

Actually, if it's under pressure, then it wont need to breathe will it? Maybe half a balloon underneath might stop the back pressure? I still think a breather pipe was the way to go... why they chose this set up for a dirt bike I'll never know.

Can't wait for you "mods" reports :)

[Weldangrind]

My safety trumps the EPA. I'd be sourcing a different tank with a standard vented cap. There must be one on Taobao that will work under the existing cowling.

[Ogre81]

I've just been filling to half a tank. I'm gonna make a new tank work somehow.

[Ogre81]

Folks near VA this bike will be for sale in a few months. I'm on the waiting list for the Zongshen RX3.

[culcune]

Found this thread and starting towards the bottom of this page, page 6, someone buys a new Bashan in South Africa joining in the ride with the guy who started the thread, and ends up riding it for over 6000 miles with the chain being the only issue (stock cheap Chinese chain that came with the bike), and the fact that they could not find a chain to replace it (they were in Africa somewhere). The guy writing the thread (very well worth the read from the beginning, btw) acknowledges how well the bike held up, the exception being the chain.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/ride-tales/round-africa-with-a-surfboard-72401-6

[culcune]

"Mike had flown to Cape Town the day after he finished teaching school, bought a cheap Chinese-manufactured 250cc dirt bike, bungeed his backpack to the seat, and rode the thing to death across 8 countries in southern Africa. Everyone who knew anything about bikes swore that he’d never make out of South Africa on such a cheap ride, yet there we stood on the island of Zanzibar, 6 thousand miles and two and a half months later. He even rode the original knobby tires the entire way. I don’t know anyone else who would have made it happen."

[Weldangrind]

That statement shows how naive some people can be about China bikes; they're not all created equally.

[Ogre81]

1000 Mile update: I've done nothing to the bike except change the oil so far. It does not like starting in the 30's but a mikuni could fix that. It could really use a few things to make it better but I am going to leave it alone until my RX3 shows up and then decide if I sell the Bashan or keep it! If I keep it the first thing its gets is a smaller rear sprocket.

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the update. :)

[culcune]

If I keep it the first thing its gets is a smaller rear sprocket.

You should do this anyway. If you don't keep it, I guarantee whoever is looking to buy it will notice the bike smoothly running along vs. if you don't change it, the bike will be peaky and vibrating which might turn them off.

My suggestion is 17 tooth front (if it doesn't already have a 17 and/or you want to bother with the front) and a 44 rear (rear 44 for sure no matter what). I am guessing the hub is setup like a 1979 xl185. These are a dime a dozen. For the time you ride it until the RX3 comes, as well as to potential buyers if you decide to sell it, it will be well worth the small cash outlay and sweat of dealing with taking off the old sprocket, having to cut links, etc.

[Weldangrind]

A new Mikuni is a good idea, because you can replace the slow jet with something larger for smoother cold starts.

[Ogre81]

A new Mikuni is a good idea, because you can replace the slow jet with something larger for smoother cold starts.

Would you get an ebay mikuni copy or a genuine mikuni?

[Weldangrind]

A China Mikuni. I've probably bought 15 of 'em, and they've all been perfect.

[rogerm]

Not to hijack your thread.........even though I am :) Orge81 Im looking into getting one or two of these but was wondering if you could measure the seat height? The specs say 28.7...........I dont believe it.