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Mudflap
01-01-2015, 01:08 PM
I was comparing the owners manual to the manufacturers plates on the bike and noticed the maximum GVW as listed on the plate is 901 lb. That seems like a lot of weight for a small bike, more than my touring bike! Could this be for carrying a half dozen pigs or a family of five? Or is it a mistake?

katoranger
01-01-2015, 02:20 PM
You must have the half ton.

Mudflap
01-01-2015, 04:30 PM
http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/QDM2/Plates_zps3fe41394.jpg

SpudRider
01-01-2015, 04:41 PM
If you become a postman you can haul the mail with it. ;)

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/DSC0139-150.jpg

mrpete
01-14-2015, 09:56 AM
He's really carrying a lot of weight on that 200cc. Hopefully, he won't hit any BuMpY side streets!

:)

bogieboy
01-14-2015, 07:39 PM
the GVWR is factoring in the weight of the bike as well.......even so, that leaves around 6-650# of capacity....

Mudflap
01-14-2015, 07:51 PM
Here's my Lifan hauling a generator, and a heavy battery charger in the action packer box, along with groceries and other junk. That's one heavy duty rack they put on the Lifan. Rode several miles down the 65 mph freeway on the way back from Harbor Freight in Yuma.

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/QDM2/IMG_6630s_zps7b7c18d2.jpg

katoranger
01-14-2015, 07:56 PM
I had about 100lbs of trailer brake parts strapped to the rack of my lifan. Made the front wheel pretty light, but the rack didn't move.

The Chinese know how to build a strong rack.

SpudRider
01-14-2015, 08:32 PM
Indeed, the Chinese build these bikes tough, with strong subframes. :tup: That's why I am confident the Zongshen RX3 can carry the loads for adventure touring with aplomb. :)

Mudflap
01-20-2015, 09:32 AM
I've been looking around to see if I could find what frame this particular Zongshen is a copy of and finally found it, it's a Beta Alp 200. Frame, forks, triple clamp, handlebars, speedo, swing arm, seat, turn signals, rear rack, foot pegs, and more. The Beta uses a Suzuki DR engine where the Roketa (Zongshen) uses a Honda CG clone.

The bikes are a cross between an enduro and a trials bike and have reversible foot pegs which allow you to move them about 6" to the rear for stand up trials riding. Dry weight is is only 223 lbs on the Beta and is listed as 222 lb in the Zongshen owners manual.

Weldangrind
01-20-2015, 11:02 AM
I've been looking around to see if I could find what frame this particular Zongshen is a copy of and finally found it, it's a Beta Alp 200. Frame, forks, triple clamp, handlebars, speedo, swing arm, seat, turn signals, rear rack, foot pegs, and more. The Beta uses a Suzuki DR engine where the Roketa (Zongshen) uses a Honda CG clone.

The bikes are a cross between an enduro and a trials bike and have reversible foot pegs which allow you to move them about 6" to the rear for stand up trials riding. Dry weight is is only 223 lbs on the Beta and is listed as 222 lb in the Zongshen owners manual.

Interesting!

Are you saying that the frame of the typical Roketa bike (with a CG200) is a copy of a Beta? My Roketa is definitely a copy of a Honda XR200 (early '80's twin shock version, modified for monoshock).

Which bike are you referring to? Do you have comparison pics?

Weldangrind
01-20-2015, 11:10 AM
Ok, I just went back to your thread about your Roketa, and I see what you mean. Your comments about the low gearing make a lot more sense now.

Did you ever get it registered for the street?

Mudflap
01-20-2015, 03:35 PM
Yes it's now registered in Oregon. I have the title, plate, tags, etc..

Roketa being just an importer puts their name on lots of different bikes. This particular one is the only copy of a Beta Alp I've seen, and I've never seen a real Alp. If you look close at the frame, forks, swing arm, rack, and most other parts, it's obvious. The aluminum rims are nicer on the Alp.

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/QDM2/DSCN2490s_zpsa4d38bb1.jpg

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/QDM2/alp_zps84dbda4d.jpg

SpudRider
01-20-2015, 05:50 PM
Indeed, I see many similarities. :) Does the Beta Alp have a kick stand on the right side?

Weldangrind
01-21-2015, 12:08 AM
Can you do the footpeg, seat and tank cover trick, just like an ALP?

Mudflap
01-21-2015, 08:52 AM
The Alp has the kickstand attached to the swing arm on the right side. I suppose that has something to do with clearance when trials riding. On the Roketa the foot pegs can be reversed and tank plastic removed but there's nothing under the seat except the battery and tool kit tray. While I enjoy watching trials riding I'm too old and fat to do that sort of thing. The Youtube vids of Julian Dupont riding trials in the city are amazing!

SpudRider
01-21-2015, 10:06 AM
Julien DuPont is amazing! :clap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzFnCGtB04I

Weldangrind
01-21-2015, 11:01 AM
This morning, my neck hurts from just watching that video.

Weldangrind
01-21-2015, 11:03 AM
On the Roketa the foot pegs can be reversed and tank plastic removed but there's nothing under the seat except the battery and tool kit tray.

I just wondered. The clones are never perfect copies of the originals.

Mudflap
01-21-2015, 11:58 AM
There isn't a good enough internet connection where I'm camped to watch the video but there used to be several Dupont videos on Youtube. My ex used to try to get me to attend dance concerts but I told her watching a good trials rider is far more entertaining than any dancer.

Weldangrind
01-22-2015, 12:11 AM
My ex used to try to get me to attend dance concerts but I told her watching a good trials rider is far more entertaining than any dancer.

I'm starting to get a picture of why she's your ex.