Qlink XF200 Front Sprockets?

[The Thinker]

Hey everyone,

I am aware this has been asked before, but it seems no one ever gets a solid "this is where you can buy this" answer. I referred to another thread that said to get a 16t 550-16 from jetsrus, but that was posted a few years ago and the part is no longer on their site.

My question is, as of today, what 16t front sprockets from ebay or other websites are plug and play with a 2013 Qlink XF200? It seems when someone says one sprocket works, another person says the opposite.

Thank you for your time, and happy riding.
-TT

[Weldangrind]

Can you remove and measure the countershaft sprocket? That would help us to be certain.

[Mudflap]

JT Sprockets has pictures with measurements for all their sprockets. If your engine is based on the Suzuki DR200, look that up and compare the measurements. www.jtsprockets.com

[Weldangrind]

It is not based on the DR200. I'm pretty sure it's a 125 model, hence my measurement suggestion.

[culcune]

Contact the XF200 experts at JPMotorpsorts (they are now selling the SSR XF250 since Qlink left the US)

http://www.jpmotorsports.com/

[culcune]

OK, just contacted them--they have a 16 tooth countersprocket for $20. I didn't get into brand and all that with the parts guy, but they do have them.

Anyone with an SSR XF250--he did tell me they are different engines than the XF250, so the XF200 sprockets apparently would not work on the SSR, if anyone was interested.

[The Thinker]

Wow, thank you for all the responses!

@Weldandgrind I was actually planning on removing the sprocket and measuring it as this is the only sure way to know if what I am buying will work, but I just threw my back out so I will get on that as soon as my back stops hating me ;)

@culcune My bike was actually from JT motorsports and I contacted them about a month ago asking for a 16t front sprocket for my bike. All I got in reply was that the 16t isn't being made anymore which I knew wasn't true. I really appreciate you taking the time to contact them for me.

I live 30 min from JP motorsports, so I will give them a call just to make sure then drive down to pick one up this weekend. When I get my stock sprocket off I will take measurements then try to find a few more reliable retailers for future riders looking to do the same thing as me.

Thank you all for the help so far, it is greatly appreciated!
-TT

[Weldangrind]

@Weldandgrind I was actually planning on removing the sprocket and measuring it as this is the only sure way to know if what I am buying will work, but I just threw my back out so I will get on that as soon as my back stops hating me ;)

Sorry to hear that, brother. I'm battling a neck injury right now, so I can appreciate what you're dealing with.

[Adjuster]

I just purchased 2 sprockets from this Ebay seller. They seem to have just about everything.

http://stores.ebay.com/classiccyclepartsonline?_trksid=p2047675.l2563


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[The Thinker]

Sorry to hear that, brother. I'm battling a neck injury right now, so I can appreciate what you're dealing with.

Thank you Weldandgrind, I wish you the best of luck with your injury as well.


I just purchased 2 sprockets from this Ebay seller. They seem to have just about everything.

http://stores.ebay.com/classiccyclepartsonline?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

Thank you, I always like discovering new ebay sellers because they always seem to have interesting stuff that I can keep in my arsenal of goodies for future projects/replacements.


Happy riding to all, I will try to get those measurements tomorrow!
-TT

[dh]

Hey TT good luck with those sprockets. If you ever need stock replacement parts for the Q definitely call SSR. They are still bringing XF-200's over and they have a good parts service in Van Nuys. The new XF is mostly unchanged from Qlink days except it now has a rear disc and speedo reading mph.

[culcune]

Are the 200's still California legal? Just wondering out of curiosity because I recall someone saying only the 250's are CARB legal (I know you are not in California anymore)

[The Thinker]

Here is an update on the sprocket situation:

I managed to head down to JP Motorsports today and picked up a sprocket. I was a little surprised at what I was given though:

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k532/cnasseri/rsz_1rsz_dsf.jpg

It turns out all they do is get the standard DR125 sprocket JTF409.16 (Link (http://www.amazon.com/JT-Sprockets-JTF409-16-Steel-Sprocket/dp/B001AVU42C)) and crudely remove the extra material. I guess I would have done the same quality job myself, but still I was a little surprised.

All sprocket measurements are the same except the new thickness is 7.5mm due to the material removal.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k532/cnasseri/51uEggoSUeL.jpg

I am now on the hunt for plug n play alternative where no material removal is necessary although I don't think one exists if JP Motorsports themselves had to resort to grinding off the excess material.

I haven't been able to put it on the bike yet as my socket set only goes up to 1 inch sockets, so tomorrow I am going to my high school's auto shop to take care of it with the impact driver and the right size socket (which I assume is 1 1/4" ?).

Thank you all for the help, this forum is great!

PS: When I registered my bike I had no problems at the DMV as far as emissions standards, etc however that was in 2013 so for all I know they may not be allowed anymore. I saw the XF250s at JP, they are sweeeet. They resemble a TW200 on a major steroid trip :D

[Weldangrind]

You could certainly do a better job of grinding the excess material away. If you try it, use a flap disc on a 4.5" angle grinder, and take your time.

You'll find decent tools for cheap at Harbor Freight. It would be helpful to have the socket in your collection.

[The Thinker]

You could certainly do a better job of grinding the excess material away.

You'll find decent tools for cheap at Harbor Freight. It would be helpful to have the socket in your collection.

I completely agree. Harbor Freight is like a candy store to me :D I go in needing one thing and come out with a cart full.

What would the best method be to get the sprocket off without damaging anything? Some people say put the bike in first gear, hold the brakes, and have someone sit on it, but it seems the forces from an impact gun could damage the transmission's internals. Would a long breaker bar be better, or should I do all of the above except have the bike in neutral. As this is going to be my ride home tomorrow I don't want to end up stuck at the shop :P

[Weldangrind]

I've always put the bike in gear and used a breaker bar. On a Honda, there is a soft flat washer behind the sprocket, and you bend the washer over one of the flats to prevent it from backing off. I presume that your bike has some nut retention method.

You could be the one sitting on the bike while operating the breaker bar. Before you begin, examine the threads to ensure that you know which direction to turn.

[dh]

The xf is still good with CARB as far as I know. A dealer told me last year they could get a xf200 but since CA has a 250cc min for freeway riding and the price difference was a couple hundred bucks, most people were opting for the 250 in CA.

[The Thinker]

I've always put the bike in gear and used a breaker bar. On a Honda, there is a soft flat washer behind the sprocket, and you bend the washer over one of the flats to prevent it from backing off. I presume that your bike has some nut retention method.

You could be the one sitting on the bike while operating the breaker bar. Before you begin, examine the threads to ensure that you know which direction to turn.

I ended up putting the bike in neutral and had someone sit on it and hold the rear brake. I removed almost all slack from the chain to prevent it from bouncing around then used an impact driver to remove the nut. The new sprocket fit perfectly and i torqued the nut down to 80lbs, hopefully that's enough. Either way the bent washer will hold it on.

I have noticed a slight increase in speed per gear in relation to RPMs, however to get the results I really want I will probably need to change the rear sprocket next. The little 200 still has enough oomph to go higher.


The xf is still good with CARB as far as I know. A dealer told me last year they could get a xf200 but since CA has a 250cc min for freeway riding and the price difference was a couple hundred bucks, most people were opting for the 250 in CA.

Wow, I wasn't aware of the freeway limitation. The 250s sure are a lot beefier than the 200s, they look more like utility bikes than supermotos. I picked up my 2013 for 1,400 with 30 kilos on it, so I couldn't turn it down :D


Thank you guys for the advice on this, it is very much appreciated!

[Weldangrind]

I have noticed a slight increase in speed per gear in relation to RPMs, however to get the results I really want I will probably need to change the rear sprocket next. The little 200 still has enough oomph to go higher.

It'll be interesting to see where the tipping point is. You could keep gearing higher, but eventually the engine won't make enough torque to carry the bike, and top speed will begin to drop.

[culcune]

The xf is still good with CARB as far as I know. A dealer told me last year they could get a xf200 but since CA has a 250cc min for freeway riding and the price difference was a couple hundred bucks, most people were opting for the 250 in CA.

Believe it or not, California's freeways have a 150cc limit, not 250cc. A guy on youtube has a video of him riding a 150cc Chinese scooter (I believe it is a Jonway, but I will dig out the video when I have time) on I 5 in the Sacramento area as part of his daily commute. I know that Wade from Excalibur Motorsports has told me about the 150cc minimum as well. But even though the dealer was mistaken, it does make sense to only concentrate on the 250's since the 200's are identical bikes and every extra bit of 'oomph' makes all the difference on California's freeways.

[The Thinker]

Believe it or not, California's freeways have a 150cc limit, not 250cc. A guy on youtube has a video of him riding a 150cc Chinese scooter (I believe it is a Jonway, but I will dig out the video when I have time) on I 5 in the Sacramento area as part of his daily commute. I know that Wade from Excalibur Motorsports has told me about the 150cc minimum as well. But even though the dealer was mistaken, it does make sense to only concentrate on the 250's since the 200's are identical bikes and every extra bit of 'oomph' makes all the difference on California's freeways.

That' what I thought. Thank you for the clarification Culcune, now I gotta see this video :D

[culcune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_1ZQq4yV00

[dh]

Believe it or not, California's freeways have a 150cc limit, not 250cc. A guy on youtube has a video of him riding a 150cc Chinese scooter (I believe it is a Jonway, but I will dig out the video when I have time) on I 5 in the Sacramento area as part of his daily commute. I know that Wade from Excalibur Motorsports has told me about the 150cc minimum as well. But even though the dealer was mistaken, it does make sense to only concentrate on the 250's since the 200's are identical bikes and every extra bit of 'oomph' makes all the difference on California's freeways.

That was wrong...150 does make a bit more sense. I did a short hop on I-5 in Orange County on my old XL 185 once and it was pretty interesting. Fun riding on PCH though.

[dh]

I ended up putting the bike in neutral and had someone sit on it and hold the rear brake. I removed almost all slack from the chain to prevent it from bouncing around then used an impact driver to remove the nut. The new sprocket fit perfectly and i torqued the nut down to 80lbs, hopefully that's enough. Either way the bent washer will hold it on.

I have noticed a slight increase in speed per gear in relation to RPMs, however to get the results I really want I will probably need to change the rear sprocket next. The little 200 still has enough oomph to go higher.




Wow, I wasn't aware of the freeway limitation. The 250s sure are a lot beefier than the 200s, they look more like utility bikes than supermotos. I picked up my 2013 for 1,400 with 30 kilos on it, so I couldn't turn it down :D


Thank you guys for the advice on this, it is very much appreciated!



$1400 is a no brainer for that bike and I was wrong about the 250cc min. Good find!

[Weldangrind]

The wind noise in that video makes the scooter sound like it's powered by angry bees.

[culcune]

The wind noise in that video makes the scooter sound like it's powered by angry bees.

The surface was a little rough looking, too, but this scooter (which was a Puma/Falcon, probably sold by the member who owns a shop in Sacramento) has 16" wheels, which helps the ride tremendously vs. the little 12" wheels/tires these often come with!