Zong parts help

[Curtdawg]

Hi everyone I just bought a broken down zong 250 169fmm. The output shaft is nfg as well as the right angle gear box that drives the shaft. I've bought a replacement motor but I'm having trouble finding the right angle gear box. Can anyone help me with used parts or a reliable source for new parts. I live in British Columbia, Canada.
Thanks Curtdawg

[Weldangrind]

Welcome!

Where in BC? I'm in Abbotsford.

Is it a quad motor? I bet you could find parts on www.taobao.com (http://www.taobao.com); we can give you guidance on that it you like.

[Curtdawg]

In Penticton. This is the part in looking for. I'll check out taobao now. Thanks weldngrind.

[Weldangrind]

Does your gearbox have reverse built in? This one does: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.117.Gr5dRE&id=38368747505&ns=1&abbucket=8#detail

150 Yuan = $30.09 Canadian.

[Curtdawg]

I posted a pic. It's diff than the one you showed me. Ill have some more pics next week. I found taobao hard to understand. How do you search for stuff?

[Weldangrind]

You must be getting ready to ride soon in Penticton. Awesome area.

Use Google Chrome, and allow it to translate automatically. Keep your searches as simple as possible, like CG250.

[Curtdawg]

Here is a few pics. of the bike the motor and the piece I need still

[Curtdawg]

:)

[Curtdawg]

Ok I'll test that translater out

[Curtdawg]

Does anyone know if he name of this right angle drive portion for the shaft drive atvs. I'm having trouble searching it. Also is there anyone out there with some general knowledge on the shaft portion. Also I was wondering if any of the styles of this angle drive will work and what the differences are eg. Shaft length, spline, fwd/rev, hi/low, non-shifting etc…

[Curtdawg]

Oh yea. Weldngrind the translated seems to work fine but having trouble actually getting the piece I need to show up in the list

[Weldangrind]

I'm failing to understand which piece is missing. Can you put a circle around it?

[Curtdawg]

What's damaged is the output shaft off the transmission and the input splines on this right angle drive to the rear end. I've got a new motor already just need this module. I'm pretty sure this one does nothing but change direction of rotation. But I really don't know much about it I havnt taken it right apart yet to see what's inside I've seen a few with shifters but I don't know if it's for reverse or hi/lo. I ran the motor without it on and the transmission in this one has reverse in it. I guess I should check the new motor though. Not sure what it came out of. All I know is it's a 167-fmm.

[Curtdawg]

Pic

[Curtdawg]

I'm trying find an app to circle the part I need. Might take me a few days. Not a lot of time to spend on this at the moment. Have you ever used Ali-express or know someone who has? I've Seen these parts for sale there but don't know anything about the site. I'm gonna keep searching taobao for now still maybe I'll stumble across what I need.

[Weldangrind]

If you're using Windows, you can simply open the image in Paint, and then select a circle and a colour.

[Weldangrind]

Have you ever used Ali-express or know someone who has? I've Seen these parts for sale there but don't know anything about the site. I'm gonna keep searching taobao for now still maybe I'll stumble across what I need.

I think that Spud has used AliExpress, but I haven't.

[Weldangrind]

Why did you get a new motor?

[Curtdawg]

I bought a new motor because after buying the output shaft and seals to split the case it would have been roughly the same price and a lot of work. I got the motor for 250+ 150 shipping. So I'll keep it for spare parts now. I only paid 100 bucks for the quad anyway. I can afford to spend a few hundred to fix it up. Also I'm using my i phone so I don't have access to Windows programs. Lastly who is spud? And do you know how I can get ahold of him/her to ask about Ali-express?

The last pic I posted is of the stripped output shaft and the back side of the " transfer case" that I'm looking for. It's so bad there are no splines left in it and the output shaft maybe has 25% left, not enough that I would risk using it on a new "transfer case". Btw thanks for your help so far weldngrind I really appreciate it.

[Curtdawg]

I was wondering how I can reach more ppl with my problem? Should I post in a diff area or something?maybe diff name of post?im sure I'm not the only person with a shaft drive zong out there I'm just not very familiar with how forums work or how to find other ppl with an atv like this.

[Weldangrind]

SpudRider is our most intrepid Moderator. He has a tremendous amount of knowledge and experience, and his photo-documentation skills are excellent.

Would you be willing to part with your existing motor? I'll be passing through next weekend, and I could grab it then. LMK.

[Weldangrind]

I was wondering how I can reach more ppl with my problem? Should I post in a diff area or something?maybe diff name of post?im sure I'm not the only person with a shaft drive zong out there I'm just not very familiar with how forums work or how to find other ppl with an atv like this.

You're using exactly the right section, but I haven't actually heard of many shaft-driven Zongs. You're kind of blazing a new trail.

You could start a thread in the Off Topic/General Discussion section, and point to this thread. I think it's ok to ask for help there.

Humanbeing is an awesome resource, because he interprets Chinese languages for us. He knows how to search Taobao very efficiently, and he can likely point to what you need. Ask him here: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=13773&highlight=humanbeing

[Curtdawg]

The motor is still in and I wont have time to take it out for a couple weeks. I don't know if I want to let it go anyway. I was planning on keeping it for spare parts. Plus I need a couple things for the new motor. Did you need a part? Or just gonna fix it up? Also I still havnt unpacked the new(used) motor to see if it even runs or runs well. In the end if the new motor is bunk I will have to keep the origional and just take the shaft out and swap it. If I end up not needing one of them after I will contact you first. I come to chilliwack every few months anyway I could drop it off.

[Weldangrind]

I don't have a need for it, I just didn't want to see it get scrapped.

I have a disorder that causes me to collect Chinese motorcycle and quad parts. :D

[Curtdawg]

Swap is all done turns out the motors shaft was the only one that took damage. Runs good now. Hey weld i put the atv up for sale( 250 atv for sale in class). Your Prob not interested in it but IF the spare motor doesn't go with the atv would you want the spare? Also you seem pretty in tune around here, have you heard of any auto atvs 150-250cc for sale? I'd like one for my wife to ride but this one is standard. Or do you know if I can convert it?

[Curtdawg]

Some pics

[Curtdawg]

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[Adjuster]

Curt I have not used Ali Express but plan to very soon. Ali Express is the online store for the wholesaler Alibaba and is the Chinese version of Amazon.com and by far larger than Amazon if you can believe that. You will not have any problems with Ali Express other than the wait times for the Chinese shipping.


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[Weldangrind]

Swap is all done turns out the motors shaft was the only one that took damage. Runs good now. Hey weld i put the atv up for sale( 250 atv for sale in class). Your Prob not interested in it but IF the spare motor doesn't go with the atv would you want the spare? Also you seem pretty in tune around here, have you heard of any auto atvs 150-250cc for sale? I'd like one for my wife to ride but this one is standard. Or do you know if I can convert it?

Glad to hear that you got the quad running; I hope it sells quickly for you.

If the motor needs a good home, I'd be happy to be the caretaker. I'd hate to see it get scrapped.

The only automatic quads I've seen have a 150 GY6 motor, which is a clone of a Honda scooter motor. My wife and our friend each have one, and they're very capable machines. They don't have a manual clutch or gears (just like a scooter), but they do often have reverse. One of ours has reverse at the rear axle, and the other has a planetary device at the output shaft (where the scooter rear wheel would go). Either one does the trick. The last one I found was around $250.00.

I'm not aware of a conversion for your quad to make it fully automatic. You could (theoretically) install a 200 Honda ATC engine in your quad, and install your existing drive shaft setup. That would result in a pull-start quad that has five forward gears and no clutch. Shifting would be required, but clutching would be gone. I'm not sure if all of the Honda 200 ATC trikes had reverse, but I know the Big Red did.

[Curtdawg]

I have a 150gy6 love it other than it burns oil like crazy. Want another one though. What do you think this green quad is worth?

[Weldangrind]

I'm the wrong guy to ask, since I'm not in the market for one. Have you had any bites at your current asking price?

GY6 parts are super cheap, so a top end rebuild would be a good plan for your GY6. While you're at it, you could choose a big bore 180cc upgrade. :D

[Curtdawg]

Yea lots of interest at this price. Have a deal on fri for 1g if the guys comes through. I was a thinking of doing the top end. Is there somewhere local that supplies gy6 engine parts? Also any info on weather or not the transmission holds up to a 180cc power. is the origional carb still good after the swap?

[Weldangrind]

I'd buy parts on eBay for a 180 swap. I can't imagine that the transmission would suffer, since the CVT is quite hearty. The carb will likely just need larger jets.

I've never done the swap, so I don't know any of this for sure. You can learn a lot from this site: http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/125_150_4-STROKE_PARTS.html

If you rebuild your GY6, please take pics and share them.