Nice looking 250cc

[CathastrophiX]

http://seeyes.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008814672492/ProductDetail/Dirt-bike/product_id-1001993256/action-GetProduct.htm

[VFRFLYER]

Wow that is nice, Doesnt say so but it appears to have 2 exhaust pipes could that be a twin cylinder. Let me know when the 350s arrive :wink:

[pobiker]

I wonder who really is the maker, Xingyu or Xyngyue? I have been researching this bike and now wonder who makes what, the picture of this one is the same bike but with no background, I am just curious. What do you guys think? http://www.chinaxingyu.com/XY-DB01.htm

[CathastrophiX]

Both companies seem to to be located in the same town...
They probably both manufacture these bikes. There are numerous companies in China making similar looking bikes under different brands, copies of copies of... :lol:

Quote:

Zhejiang Xingyu Industry & Trade Co., Ltd. Is located in Yongkang of Zhejiang, the world hardware manufacturing base. We pride ourselves on being a professional manufacturer within this community. Since our establishment in 1996, the company has witnessed rapid growth with annual output increasing .

Quote:

China Xingyue Group lies in Yongkang city of Zhejiang province---the capital of hardware of China. It founded in 1989. The comprehensive strength of Xingyue Group runs No. 62nd in top 500 Chinese Civil Enterprises, and it comes out No. 19th in the top 100 Tax Paying Private Enterprises of China;

Edit: This post officially made me a "super cool boy" - feels a bit odd, now I must live up to that pressure also :wink:

[pobiker]

Yes, I think you are right, I just thought how the picture was the same for both companies, one had back ground, the other had no background except the shadow inside the front rim. I just find little things like that interesting. The picture is identical, I just wonder if one makes for the other, the graphics and everything are exactly identical :lol: :lol: anyhow I think I am getting one soon!

[culcune]

This bike has been shown a few times here and there. I know it hasn't made it to the US, yet, unless someone was able to get a container in. (New emissions law make it vitually impossible to import bikes without EPA certification). I have no idea why it hasn't made a bigger inroad anywhere, unless it is still a prototype...




Edit: This post officially made me a "super cool boy" - feels a bit odd, now I must live up to that pressure also :wink:

You must use the power wisely...

[pobiker]

Well I just got a reply from xingyu company and they sent a copy of the epa cert. and it is from the xingyue company, it doesn't make sense, but I am going to keep researching it, it looks like a cool bike. wonder if the 'yu company is a division of the 'yue company?????? I am going to just come out and ask them whats up.

[culcune]

It says on the site that they do OEM manufacture. Since I got into these Chinese bikes a few years ago, and have seen a few companies go from importers to "manufacturers" (i.e. Jetmoto, Roketa) it has intrigued me to be a manufacturer. If that company doesn't release that bike soon, someone should slap their own name on it and bring it out worldwide!

[CathastrophiX]

Yes, I can see it now!

CULCUNE MOTORCYCLES releases the Culcune 250, Chairman Culcune says "Our goal is to beat competitors like Fukang, remember I´m a Mega Cool Boy"

:D

[pobiker]

maybe the "POHOE DT 250" the little catch phrase could be "who needs a FUKANG bike when you could be riding a POHOE" :lol: I would just like to know who actually builds it, just my little curiosity. It looks good but I wonder the quality, sucks when you can't see it in real life. I hope it isn't a hand gernade. :lol: :lol: wait, how is this "IF YOU WANT MORE THAN JUST A FUKANG, YOU'LL GET A LIFETIME OF RIDING FUN WITH A POHOE DT250, TEST RIDE A POHOE TODAY, WE KNOW YOU WILL BE SATISFIED".
Monica Lewinski could be the spokesmodel.

[culcune]

You can't forgot about the 'Wusi' company; never underestimate the competition!! :lol:

[CathastrophiX]

In Turkey you can buy them, they´re called Brave 250:

http://www.speedmotors.com.tr/b250.html

[pobiker]

Brave, now thats a good name, wonder if I buy a sample what could I name it. The Frank 250, I don't really know how to say Xingyu, I need phonics on that one, is it zing-you, or x-ing-you, I don't know the language.

I just wonder if I could swing buying one, seems like a lot of trouble, and what if the bike sucks, not like I can get a refund. The picture looks so good, but just like building a house, it's the guts that ultimatley count, all the gingerbread doesn't make it quality. Sortta like street bike phrase, chrome don't get ya home. I owned some rat harleys, but they always ran much better than they looked. As we all deal with limited budgets, ya have to sacrifice looks sometimes for perfomance. And the Chinese are giving us the ability to afford a dirtbike. I've said before, for the price of a comparible Japanese bike, I could buy a 883 sportster, strip it down, lighten it, and put knobbies on it, and resproket the thing and have one bad ass dirt bike. And the metal tank would bring me back to the 70's when I started dirt biking. Damb it would be my 72' Yamaha DT360 with a big twin. Hell, Evil Kineivel did his thing on Sportsters. I can't see paying $6,599.00 for a CRF250! In fact the 883 is less expensive.

[CathastrophiX]

Ask for opinions at a turkish motorcycle forum?

[pobiker]

good call, thats why this sight is so cool, input is such a good thing :D thanks

[CathastrophiX]

I´m getting some info from Turkey now, the price there is about
:arrow: USD 4700 :!: :!: 8O

[pobiker]

wow $4700.00 thats expensive, about $2500.00 more than it is worth, the Turkish dealers must enjoy making a killing. I am talking with someone from the factory and an importer near me I know. If it all works out I will let you all know, if I get the sample of 250 and 125 for the kids, and they are good bikes I will be happy, and hopefully import more if they are descent bikes. If not I will have 2 expensive book ends :lol: turn em upside down, screw some finished oak plywood on them, a couple barstools and I will use them for tables in my garage.

Were did you get the links from Turkey? Do they like the bikes?

[CathastrophiX]

Scroll down a bit on this page:

http://www.motosiklet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12367&page=19

[pobiker]

Ahhhh.... so it is probably import laws making it so expensive. I wonder if you will get a reply if anyone has bought one, rode one or even seen one up close? How do you find all these sights? I am amazed how many others read, write and speak english. :lol: I have enough trouble speaking proper english and that's my first language! You really seem to dig up info., you have been a great help here, Thank You!

[CathastrophiX]

Google and Babelfish can be of great help...
If you get a hold of the bike so let us now how it is.
By the way.. sights=sites?

[pobiker]

yes sights=sites LOL see my english is lacking, and it is my first language LOL.

Yes I will let you know, I will be speaking to the import broker this afternoon, wish me luck.

[culcune]

pobiker-be aware of the EPA certification law. I don't think you can legally receive the bike w/o it-in fact, they can't send it. Not too sure about samples, but I think any bike sent has to pass EPA. Double check before using bikes as bookends-or not getting bikes at all, but after having wired money...

[pobiker]

Well I checked into the EPA cert. and they sent them to me. It was certified in Michigan. I found an import broker and today ordered 2 samples. A 125 and a 250, wish me luck and I will be praying I don't end up with 2 gernades. If not, and they pan out, I am going to look into a PA dealers license. I will take some pics when they come in, well after I put em together, I assume it will take some time to get all the bolts/nuts tight, and put together all the stuff that is shipped loose. From what I have read here I need to go over everything, and change the fluids to some good motor oil, and fork oil. Hope every one is doing well, now I have to sit back and wait probably 2 months.

[culcune]

Good luck to you!! I do hope the 250 comes like the photo, and not a stripped down (read: no street equipment) bike like Viva and Tank already sell. Not to scare you, but...

[pobiker]

well i just got word from the company that the bikes are crated and ready to be shipped, i suppose they will take at least a month to ship from ningbo to usa. the warranty is 1 year on frame and engine and they ship 2.5% easily broken parts. i wonder if that is like levers and fenders or cables, that is another question i need to ask. the 125cc was cheaper model so i made up the price difference with 5 dot helmets, one for me 2 for the kids and the ones we dont pick maybe i will sell. if they are junk they will make interesting hanging plant baskets.

it sucks wondering wether it will all be some cool stuff or if i will be like martha stewart and have to make use of it all in other ways. hmmmmmm boat anchors......
bar tables.......... flower pots........... maybe i could make round wrought iron frames and weld em to the bikes, get some safety glass tops and sell em to a local bar as artsy type tables ??????? :lol: any other back up plans would be appreciated and would make me at least smile some. just think old tricky dicky nixon would be so proud of us trading with china.

[tzrider]

Wow that is nice, Doesnt say so but it appears to have 2 exhaust pipes could that be a twin cylinder. Let me know when the 350s arrive :wink:

Single cylinder 4 valve head. Check out an XL600R Honda for reference.

[Jdcooper]

Any word yet ? Enquiring minds need to know...... :wink:

[pobiker]

not as of yet, they get put on ship this coming saturday, so it will take a month I bet till they hit California port, then to Pittsburgh.

I am going to try to call and speak to the rep. I been talking with through e-mail, that should be interesting. In fact the whole process has been pretty interesting, I want to find out more about their culture. I understand they are still communist, but they must not be quite as hardline as in the past, with the growth in industrialism it must be hard to not lean toward capitalism. It scares me sometimes that we are soon gonna be second banana to them as a world power, they already have the numbers, now the huge amounts of money will be going their way. I was told by a friend that has done work there designing some of the steel and metal processing mills, that they buy all of our scrap metals, then when it gets put onboard rail cars on shore, they bring in the whole rail car in and melt it down car and all.

When we were in the industrial revolution that was when we became the super power, and we were not billions strong. Pres. Nixon was either quite inteligent, or had a crystal ball, he had the foresight to know we were gonna be dealing with them in this situation, make friends and play nice or get kicked around in the school yard. It sounds to me from learning here and other places that a lot of outsourcing is going there, even the Japanese do it.

My theory on us and the Japanese is simaler to China, it is that a lot of the funding and probably a lot of the controling interest in their companies are American business's, look at Mazda, subsidary of Ford Motor Company, name a Japanese businessman as Pres. & General mngr. (and make up a name here) William J. Anderson great grandnephew of Henery Ford is head of the Board of Directors, and that made up name person has controlling interest with stock amounts. Hell we blew their ass's up in WWII, who the hell do you think funded their rebuilding?

I figure it this way, they didn't just grab the yellow pages and find my friend to design specialty steel mills, must be some American business behind the scenes, which in a way is good because that money will eventually trickle down in our economy, the true thing that sucks is it will trickle down to illegal immigrants.

That sucks to, but it is a reflection of our own lack of work ethic, we all want big pay for little or no work. We are a spoiled brat nation, "mommie & daddy, and the world owe us an easy life with lots of money and not have to struggle to make it" do we need another depression to wake the new generation into the fact that no one owes their lazy asses anything. Put down the controler of the PS3, unplug your umbilical cord from your PC in your room and wake up at 6:00 am and get your lazy ass to work. I and a lot of my friends had jobs as 13 year olds, paper boys, shoveling snow, cutting grass anything to pay for our dirt bikes and parts. In summers I worked as a labor for my families masonry business, in fact Christmas and Thanksgiving were mandatory work weeks for me if it was warm enough to lay brick.

I am second generation American, my grandparents were all LEGAL imigrants, and where they came from life sucked really bad, and that is were I learned my work ethic, if you want to make it in life work hard and struggle and you will make it, and don't compromise your morals and ethics to get there. My parents were never rich but they were not on welfare either, but my dad always put in my head that if you don't work hard and spend wisely, you will be poor and worse off than my grandparents would have been, had they not come to this land of opportunity and worked hard and spoke english like everyone else. Ok I will get off my rant LOL just one more thing and I will stop for today, God Bless America, Pledge Alligence to the Flag and Pray for our Troops and the Troops of our allied Countries, that give their lives, so some fool like me can get on his soap box and rant and rave about our society, without being executed or imprisioned! By the way if I offended anyone in any way, to bad, cause I do not buy into this polliticly correct bull. Give me liberty or give me death, Live Free or Die and also Ride hard, die free.

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