Roketa db-08r-250 back in stock

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I just noticed that "The Super Scooter Store" has the ROKETA DB-08R-250 listed on their website. Good price $1400 minus $60 Facebook bonus.Free shipping and no hidden fees. I think some people were waiting for these to show up.

[Merlin]

I just noticed that "The Super Scooter Store" has the ROKETA DB-08R-250 listed on their website. Good price $1400 minus $60 Facebook bonus.Free shipping and no hidden fees. I think some people were waiting for these to show up.

Best call and make sure. I tried to buy one from them only to find out they didnt have them.

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I tired to buy one two months ago and was told they were out of stock.At that time they removed the listing from their ad. So when this model was re listed a few days ago i assumed that meant they were back it stock. Wrong. They just notified me that it will coming in three weeks. Same old story. I guess its time to look for a different model. Maybe the Magician.

[BlackBike]

i guess the bozz bike is just as hard to find as well. you might look for it. looks nice and is same stuff as storm but with fuel gauge , maybe a couple hund more too

[motorcyclelove]

I'm in the same boat with you. The magician has such a small tank and it's brand new so I worry about it. I want to see how motocheez likes it after a few weeks and by that time the storm will be back in stock.

[motorcyclelove]

i guess the bozz bike is just as hard to find as well. you might look for it. looks nice and is same stuff as storm but with fuel gauge , maybe a couple hund more too

Bozz ends up being about $300 more.

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I contacted Power Riders Outlet about the Brozz 250. They claim to have them in stock. About $250 more than the Storm. Is this a recommended place to buy from?

[BlackBike]

I contacted Power Riders Outlet about the Brozz 250. They claim to have them in stock. About $250 more than the Storm. Is this a recommended place to buy from?

I don't know about dealer rating but I would go for that red brozz. Fuel gauge/tach on this one. I was mistaken no rear disk but like merlin says, just more problem to fix if you have trouble , drum brake simple and Bulletproof. This is a bashan motorcycle
Check out different chain adjustment and shark fin on swingarm. Also carbon fiber look appointments. There is always something better around the corner, this is a upgrade from the bashan storm. I would seriously buy this one. Its the next best thing. Just needs a diy skidplate
https://www.powerrideoutlet.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/f3995950a48d0072f06037a6106e12ce/d/s/dsc_7265_red.jpg

[motorcyclelove]

That is a good looking bike.

[motorcyclelove]

Keep us updated if you get it retired guy.

[BlackBike]

http://mjskitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ristras_web.jpg

I think that red model would go nicely with other things from New Mexico!

Reminds me of new Mexico chile rellenos with that distinctive red sauce flavor it's wonderful after years of eating Tex Mex.

[simonjester]

Powerrideoutlet is selling the Brozz too and IIRC several folks on this forum have had good experiences with them.

https://www.powerrideoutlet.com/dirt-bikes/pro-sports-250-enduro-onroad-offroad-bike.html

[Adjuster]

I had a great experience with PRO. Their online live chat was very helpful in answering my questions. I had a few broken plastics covered under warranty with no questions asked. However it did take awhile for the replacements as they came from China.


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[pistolclass]

Nice bike. I went to there website and was looking at the other enduro 250 video and at the 1:20 mark the bile didn't start... then at the end of the video hits the kill switch and the bike doesn't turn off and calls it Hazards. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPkyrk80q1A

Should have reshot the video. Still that BROZZ is sweet.

[simonjester]

Nice bike. I went to there website and was looking at the other enduro 250 video and at the 1:20 mark the bile didn't start... then at the end of the video hits the kill switch and the bike doesn't turn off and calls it Hazards. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPkyrk80q1A

Should have reshot the video. Still that BROZZ is sweet.

That's the video for the Shark, not the Brozz.

[simonjester]

https://youtu.be/2q5e9jNLzLs

Video for Brozz

[simonjester]

An attraction for me about the Brozz vs the Shark is that the seat height on the Brozz is listed as 31 inches vs 34 for the Shark.

[pistolclass]

That's the video for the Shark, not the Brozz.


Yeah Sorry I was unclear. The brozz video was fine, it was the shark video. That is what I meant when I said the "other" enduro because I couldn't remember the name of the shark.

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I agree with everyone that it is a good looking bike. However i did some checking on PRO and about 90% of the reviews i found started out like this "avoid this company, terrible dealer, thieves, worst internet experience ever." It's a shame that these internet companies selling Chinese goods are so incompetent. I'm going to keep looking. Only two colors down here, Red or Green both very hot!!!!!!

[Weldangrind]

It's a shame that these internet companies selling Chinese goods are so incompetent.

That's a very broad statement. We've certainly had good customer service reported on this forum.

[motorcyclelove]

That's a very broad statement. We've certainly had good customer service reported on this forum.

I think he read the reviews from Google and the majority of people who wrote them are just people that didn't realize they were buying china products. I would give them a shot Retired Guy. I would but I don't have quit enough $ saved for the bozz yet.

[BlackBike]

Retired guy.. sorry, it's the nature of the game. Also on the Brozz description it says 21 hp. And 68+ mph. We all know this is false specs. This will have same performance as the other common 250 enduros from China .

I noticed on that pro retailer one customer was still waiting as of 8/20 for the mco which was purchased on 8/2 . Common issue too with retailers.

These are common stories on all retailers for these China bikes, the few exceptions being CSC and APSCUSA.COM .

I would still pursue that brozz 250. It would be perfect since it's duel sport performance is more for street and light off road. I sucespect it would be ideal for someone with a name like retired guy.

[BlackBike]

I think he read the reviews from Google and the majority of people who wrote them are just people that didn't realize they were buying china products. I would give them a shot Retired Guy. I would but I don't have quit enough $ saved for the bozz yet.

Hope you end up with one too. We all have been waiting for these 2 bikes to become available. Prerequisite to purchase , pics and review! :lol:

[motorcyclelove]

Hope you end up with one too. We all have been waiting for these 2 bikes to become available. Prerequisite to purchase , pics and review! :lol:

Ha! Ha! I'm either getting the bozz or the magician. I'm taking the MSF Oct. 1st and 2nd and by then I will have enough $ saved!

[Weldangrind]

Ha! Ha! I'm either getting the bozz or the magician. I'm taking the MSF Oct. 1st and 2nd and by then I will have enough $ saved!

Taking the MSF before buying a bike is an excellent move.

[BlackBike]

Ha! Ha! I'm either getting the bozz or the magician. I'm taking the MSF Oct. 1st and 2nd and by then I will have enough $ saved!

imo...magician too much like a moped. might be persuaded if the performance was better but i doubt it.

[motorcyclelove]

imo...magician too much like a moped. might be persuaded if the performance was better but i doubt it.

I'm on the shorter side at 5'9" so the magician would fit me a little better. It does look a little mopedish now that you mentioned it. What is the seat hight of your storm?

[BlackBike]

I'm on the shorter side at 5'9" so the magician would fit me a little better. It does look a little mopedish now that you mentioned it. What is the seat hight of your storm?

My bashan blaze is the same as that brozz at 31in. It's just about right for me at 5.11 . It's doable for you but may want to go to a bike place and try on some showroom bikes on and ask about heights (for comparison just bring a handy tape measure) .it's cool being up and can definitely see down the road.

I did this at a honda dealer (sorry honda)

Correction, just checked , by standing next to the bike, the measurement is just over 33 inches.

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I just received a email from Joe at the Super Scooter Store he contacted the rep for Roketa about shipping times for the DB-08. He says they should be in next week. These are the ones for $1400 shipped. I wouldn't hold your breath. Hope thats correct.

[motorcyclelove]

I just received a email from Joe at the Super Scooter Store he contacted the rep for Roketa about shipping times for the DB-08. He says they should be in next week. These are the ones for $1400 shipped. I wouldn't hold your breath. Hope thats correct.

We'll see....

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I see that Superior Power Sports changed their web-site today concerning the Roketa DB-08-250 from "coming soon" to "in stock now" With shipping they about $150 more than Super Scooter Store. Most likely SSS should be getting them soon also. I have a decision to make.

[motorcyclelove]

I see that Superior Power Sports changed their web-site today concerning the Roketa DB-08-250 from "coming soon" to "in stock now" With shipping they about $150 more than Super Scooter Store. Most likely SSS should be getting them soon also. I have a decision to make.

Nice!

[lprewitt]

After some additional research and reading on this great forum, I am seriously considering ordering a 250 Storm. I like the idea of a balanced engine and the inverted forks. The bike looks great, as well. I know they are hard to get. Hopefully, i can find a dealer that can confirm that the warehouse has them in stock. Would love to get the version that has the 21/18 tire setup. Anyone have an input on a Storm versus a Hawk? .....such as ride quality, vibration, reliability, parts availability, power, speed.

[motorcyclelove]

After some additional research and reading on this great forum, I am seriously considering ordering a 250 Storm. I like the idea of a balanced engine and the inverted forks. The bike looks great, as well. I know they are hard to get. Hopefully, i can find a dealer that can confirm that the warehouse has them in stock. Would love to get the version that has the 21/18 tire setup. Anyone have an input on a Storm versus a Hawk? .....such as ride quality, vibration, reliability, parts availability, power, speed.

From what I've researched, the storm is more suitable for the road than the hawk. Better gearing for more speed and more road friendly tires. Been waiting on Super Scooter store to get them in stock because I like the looks of them more than the magician. Plus $1400 shipped from Super Scooter store. CSC has a sale tomorrow and they are great bikes. $2350 shipped but only have the white and and one black bike in stock.

[lprewitt]

Thanks, motorcyclelove, that's what I have heard and why I'm leaning toward the Storm. Well, I just got my name on a list for a Storm at a local dealer here in Missouri. The price is a little high ($1895) but the bike is fully assembled and tested....and the dealer has a very good reputation for service and support. The CSC TT250 is very tempting but would like the copper colored one (and would like silver rims rather than black). I was told that the copper would not be in stock until their 2017 models arrived. So, I will wait for the Storm to ship to my local dealer. The dealer has already paid for them and told me he expects them within 2 weeks. Just keeping my fingers crossed. :tup:

[motorcyclelove]

If they say two expect 6. Just be patient and post some pics when you get it.

[culcune]

Thanks, motorcyclelove, that's what I have heard and why I'm leaning toward the Storm. Well, I just got my name on a list for a Storm at a local dealer here in Missouri. The price is a little high ($1895) but the bike is fully assembled and tested....

Wow! I guess seeing all the ads from the discount online vendors makes me think this is a high price, but when you think of it--Under $2000 for a new bike from a brick and mortar dealer is a deal. I know that one of our members, 'Evelyn' bought one fully assembled from a dealer in Utah for slightly less than that. It was a 2015 model, and when she posted that, I thought that that was too high (again, because I am used to the online mail order dealer pricing). But it made sense in that she was a tourist from Israel, who wanted a bike to get her from Utah to New York where she was going to fly back home. I think she was trying to figure out if she could sell the Storm in Israel as a business, so she had some ulterior motives, but it worked out for her. She rode it from Utah to Brooklyn, New York, and I don't recall her having issues on the way.

[simonjester]

I like the lower seat height of 29 inches and that you can get it fully assembled from Superior Powersports. $1,739 fully assembled to my door including shipping.

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/250cc_Dirt_Bike_p/rk250db-08.htm

[motorcyclelove]

I like the lower seat height of 29 inches and that you can get it fully assembled from Superior Powersports. $1,739 fully assembled to my door including shipping.

http://www.superiorpowersports.com/250cc_Dirt_Bike_p/rk250db-08.htm

Yeah but what exactly "assembled" means to them is questionable. I'm sure you will still need to go over everything with a fine tooth comb and use loctite. If I'm going to have to do that I'll save the $200 and put it together myself.

[simonjester]

Yeah but what exactly "assembled" means to them is questionable. I'm sure you will still need to go over everything with a fine tooth comb and use loctite. If I'm going to have to do that I'll save the $200 and put it together myself.

To each his own, but tightening a few nuts and bolts is a heck of a lot easier for me than assembling major components. I'd rather receive a bike that's been assembled and test ridden than receive something like this with no instructions on how to assemble it properly:

http://www.chinariders.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=6882&stc=1&d=1469722159

I have little mechanical experience and I'm learning as I go, so I'd much rather pay $200 than eff something up and end up crashing at 55mph and in the hospital or dead. My wife and son would not appreciate it. :D I'm fine with paying an extra $200 to prevent that. Call it insurance. If you don't feel the same, that's cool.

[motorcyclelove]

To each his own, but tightening a few nuts and bolts is a heck of a lot easier for me than assembling major components. I'd rather receive a bike that's been assembled and test ridden than receive something like this with no instructions on how to assemble it properly:

http://www.chinariders.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=6882&stc=1&d=1469722159

I have little mechanical experience and I'm learning as I go, so I'd much rather pay $200 than eff something up and end up crashing at 55mph and in the hospital or dead. My wife and son would not appreciate it. :D I'm fine with paying an extra $200 to prevent that. Call it insurance. If you don't feel the same, that's cool.
I hear ya. Seeing it like that is scary and I'm no mechanic either but from what I've researched on here and on you tube it's not that big of a deal. Just take your time and try not to get frustrated but I don't blame you. It will probably take me 8 or so hours to assemble and may be worth paying $200 for somebody else to do it.

[Ariel Red Hunter]

To each his own, but tightening a few nuts and bolts is a heck of a lot easier for me than assembling major components. I'd rather receive a bike that's been assembled and test ridden than receive something like this with no instructions on how to assemble it properly:

http://www.chinariders.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=6882&stc=1&d=1469722159

I have little mechanical experience and I'm learning as I go, so I'd much rather pay $200 than eff something up and end up crashing at 55mph and in the hospital or dead. My wife and son would not appreciate it. :D I'm fine with paying an extra $200 to prevent that. Call it insurance. If you don't feel the same, that's cool.It actually is pre-assembled at the factory, then didassembled just enough to package it to fit, with a bunch more, in a 40 ft. shipping container. All you do is put the pieces they took off in order to ship it back on.

[culcune]

My friend, thanks to me pointing out the Brozz and the Shark being available from Kandi USA, and my friend's distributorship being about a mile and half, made his way over to Kandi the other day to see them in person. He said that an online retailer (I am not naming names) is leasing half the warehouse. They have a small crew of 'assembly' people building bikes for those paying $200. He said they did not seem like professional mechanics.

You and I are pretty much just as capable of putting these bikes together as the 'professional assemblers' are, although in their defense, they will have extra experience by the law of numbers of bikes needing assembly.

I have put a few bikes together, including one I commuted on at over 60 mph (my TMEC 200), and I am no mechanic by any means. The one thing about my TMEC was that the rear was already assembled, tightened down, at its most forward position, so I didn't have to theoretically mess with that until a couple months later when the chain would stretch. However, I did exchange the stock sprocket with a 48 tooth one about a week after I got her running.

For me, the only thing of any concern at commuting speeds was putting on the front tire, which was a non-issue.

Now, the Bashans (Storm, Brozz, Shark) or the RPS bikes (Hawk, Magician) might involve the rear wheel needing to be attached, but that should not be any concern, IMO. And, again, I am no mechanic by any means, and I don't think of the assemblers as being on par with a brick and mortar name brand store's mechanics. Then again, for $200, it would save me lots of cursing and skinned knuckles, not to mention the swarms of flies that keep landing on me in the 105+ F to drink my sweat...

Just remember, these are Chinese bikes, so no matter who assembles them, you will need to check over everything daily (chain tension, brakes, lights) and weekly (engine mount bolts--those are notorious for loosening up, exhaust bolts).

[BlackBike]

Culcune...:)

And in a couple of weeks, the Temps won't be an issue for a large part of the studio audience

[motorcyclelove]

Culcune...:)

And in a couple of weeks, the Temps won't be an issue for a large part of the studio audience

For real I'm in Savannah, Ga and we are finally out of the 90's. Getting to the good season down here.

[2LZ]

Being a wrench all my life, I trust no one when it comes to assembly.....but that's just me. I can totally understand those who are "mechanically challenged" or worse, have no facility or assortment of tools to assemble with. I'd be tempted to jump on the assembly also. Just be aware, go over it with a fine tooth comb, and make sure everything is adjusted properly and snug.
Example: I have great faith in CSC and am happier with that company than any other I've dealt with....but the TT250 chain was super tight and the rear wheel wasn't aligned straight out of crate.

[Azhule]

Just don't pay the company I bought from to 'fully assemble' your bike ;) ... would have been better off if it was built by a blind person :hehe:

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I received some emails from Joe about the availability of these and he claims they are now in stock and shipping. Thats the Roketa Storm DB-08R-250 for $1399 minus discounts shipped to your door. I think this is one of the best deals out there at this time.

[wilserchinarider]

I trust no one when it comes to assembly.....but that's just me.

You're not alone here Weld, i recall discussing assembly charges with my father, and him saying that he would prefer to pay more for an unassembled unit than check someone else's work...lol.

[Ariel Red Hunter]

I received some emails from Joe about the availability of these and he claims they are now in stock and shipping. Thats the Roketa Storm DB-08R-250 for $1399 minus discounts shipped to your door. I think this is one of the best deals out there at this time.OK, I'll bite. What makes this a better deal than a Hawk is, for instance? Perhaps it is easier to get registered and plated?

[Merlin]

OK, I'll bite. What makes this a better deal than a Hawk is, for instance? Perhaps it is easier to get registered and plated?

Inverted forks, counterbalance engine. DOT EPA approved. Easy to reg in 49 states. Having a shorter seat height might be a plus for some.

[Mudflap]

Anyone know who manufacturers it?

[Merlin]

Anyone know who manufacturers it?

Bashan

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Inverted forks, counterbalance engine. DOT EPA approved. Easy to reg in 49 states. Having a shorter seat height might be a plus for some.Merlin - Is this the bike you bought? Different name but same bike?

[Merlin]

Merlin - Is this the bike you bought? Different name but same bike?

No this bike is different. Just about the only thing that is the same is the engine.

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Inverted forks, counterbalance engine. DOT EPA approved. Easy to reg in 49 states. Having a shorter seat height might be a plus for some.Oh, I see. For the average rider, the best difference is easy 49 state registration. For some the lower seat height is an advantage. The counter-balance engine may have an advantage in more flywheel weight. And maybe that advantage overcomes the dis-advantage of having a chain drive oil pump. The upside down forks are more of an advantage in higher speed off road work. But there is no denying the advantage of easier registration.

[Merlin]

Oh, I see. For the average rider, the best difference is easy 49 state registration. For some the lower seat height is an advantage. The counter-balance engine may have an advantage in more flywheel weight. And maybe that advantage overcomes the dis-advantage of having a chain drive oil pump. The upside down forks are more of an advantage in higher speed off road work. But there is no denying the advantage of easier registration.

For me the lower seat height of the Storm would be a dis-advantage. My bike is full sized as I like it. I dont do high speed off road work so up side down forks would not really be needed. I hope the counterbalance engine lets me ride at highway speeds with out rattling the bike or my old bones too much. The Brozz would be the bike I would want if I had it to do over again. I might try and sale this bike and start over with a Brozz?

[Ariel Red Hunter]

For me the lower seat height of the Storm would be a dis-advantage. My bike is full sized as I like it. I dont do high speed off road work so up side down forks would not really be needed. I hope the counterbalance engine lets me ride at highway speeds with out rattling the bike or my old bones too much. The Brozz would be the bike I would want if I had it to do over again. I might try and sale this bike and start over with a Brozz?I gotta confess I never really noticed engine vibration on my 250's. But all of them were English made, and the English really worked to get the engines mounted right to quell vibration. Excessive engine vibration is usually caused by poor engine mounting. I suspect that the Chinese don't bother with this. Easy to understand, considering 90% of their buyers worldwide have never owned anything with an internal combustion engine in it before. I would hope that the Brozz has got to be a lot better than what you have. Personally, I would go with a Hawk. There have been lots of them sold, and not very many complaints. And the problems that have shown up seem to have been treated satisfactorily on this site.

[Merlin]

I gotta confess I never really noticed engine vibration on my 250's. But all of them were English made, and the English really worked to get the engines mounted right to quell vibration. Excessive engine vibration is usually caused by poor engine mounting. I suspect that the Chinese don't bother with this. Easy to understand, considering 90% of their buyers worldwide have never owned anything with an internal combustion engine in it before. I would hope that the Brozz has got to be a lot better than what you have. Personally, I would go with a Hawk. There have been lots of them sold, and not very many complaints. And the problems that have shown up seem to have been treated satisfactorily on this site.

Ya lots of support for the Hawk here. No DOT approval. Wont work in Colorado.

[lprewitt]

I received some emails from Joe about the availability of these and he claims they are now in stock and shipping. Thats the Roketa Storm DB-08R-250 for $1399 minus discounts shipped to your door. I think this is one of the best deals out there at this time.
I can confirm that the Storms are back in the US. My local shop just called to tell me that my Storm has arrived and is now being assembled. It is Orange....but I had my pick of 4 other colors. Just my luck, I am out of town and cannot pick it up until the 16th. But, at least now I'm a little more confident that I will get one. Will provide pics at that time.:yay

[Ariel Red Hunter]

Ya lots of support for the Hawk here. No DOT approval. Wont work in Colorado.Oh. I didn't know that no one had successfully registered one in Colorado. I think you can go on the internet and register it in South Dakota. Using your Colorado address. Then, once you have a South Dakota title, you can re-register it in Colorado, when you get around to it.

[Merlin]

Oh. I didn't know that no one had successfully registered one in Colorado. I think you can go on the internet and register it in South Dakota. Using your Colorado address. Then, once you have a South Dakota title, you can re-register it in Colorado, when you get around to it.

Ya Ive read that works. Ill opt for a DOT approved for now.

[DohcBikes]

Thanks for the info guys. I was going to buy a Hawk, now I'm going to get a storm. No hassles at the DMV, worth every penny. The USD forks certainly don't bother me either.

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I'm under the impression that the Storm and the Brozz are the same thing. They both have the label BS250GY-18 on the swing arm. The Brozz has the letter "C" after the 18. They sure look the same to me just different graphics. Hard to tell from the pics.

[Merlin]

I'm under the impression that the Storm and the Brozz are the same thing. They both have the label BS250GY-18 on the swing arm. The Brozz has the letter "C" after the 18. They sure look the same to me just different graphics. Hard to tell from the pics.

The Brozz has a rear drum brake.

[culcune]

I am STILL trying to figure out how many teeth the rear sprocket on the Brozz comes with stock, LOL. It took me weeks, but someone counted the teeth on the Magician for me (45 btw), but the couple guys with the Brozz have not gotten back to me, LOL

What is the stock rear sprocket on the Storm?

Oh, and not all Bashan bikes are distributed by the same distributor, from what I understand. Jass Motorsports, aka Kandi, distribute the Shark and the Brozz, and I still haven't found the distributor for the rest of the Bashan lineup.

[NM RETIRED GUY]

You are correct about the rear brake i forgot about that. I don't understand why you would prefer the Brozz over the Storm? At this time the Brozz sellers want about $200 more. I'm just pointing out that this is the best deal I've seen for a non Hawk bike. Merlin,are you making any progress with "Superior Power Sports"? Best of luck to you.

[culcune]

You are correct about the rear brake i forgot about that. I don't understand why you would prefer the Brozz over the Storm?

I just like it better, for no good reason, and after having mixed luck with Chinese enduros rear discs, I think having a drum brake would be a breath of fresh air, ironically.

[Merlin]

You are correct about the rear brake i forgot about that. I don't understand why you would prefer the Brozz over the Storm? At this time the Brozz sellers want about $200 more. I'm just pointing out that this is the best deal I've seen for a non Hawk bike. Merlin,are you making any progress with "Superior Power Sports"? Best of luck to you.

0 luck with them or the bike.

[motorcyclelove]

NM Retired, did you order a storm yet?

[NM RETIRED GUY]

No i'm not going to order a Storm. While waiting for these to show up i picked up a 2010 Yamaha xt250 for cheap. The guy dumped it and decided to stop riding. It needed a new front fender,turn signal stalk,mirror. and has a few small rub marks. It took me about a week and $75 to fix it up, new oil and air filters and a good clean up. Now it looks like new and has only 1200 miles and works perfect. It's a great bike and i have put 500 miles on it and having lots of fun. I'm still interested in getting a china bike like the Magician but there's so little info on it I'm going to wait. One thing for sure i'm not buying anything from Superior Power Sports after the way they treated Merlin.

[motorcyclelove]

Nice ride!

[2LZ]

You got a smokin' deal. One of the reasons I went with CB's is because on CL, people usually want a ton of $$$ for 10 year old junk. Nice find!

[culcune]

You got a smokin' deal. One of the reasons I went with CB's is because on CL, people usually want a ton of $$$ for 10 year old junk. Nice find!

It all depends on geographic location. Some people here on Chinariders couldn't understand that not everyone has 2 year old CRF250L's for $1200 on their local Craigslists (I am exaggerating, but it seemed like some of our members from eastern Washington state, and the parts of the US around there had access to endless low-cost desirable bikes available to them, LOL).

Plus, many of those bikes could be hit or miss. I watch some of BakerXDerek's videos, and recently he bought a newer model DR200 whose engine grenaded on him while he was on the freeway (not on video, but he explained what happened).

[motorcyclelove]

You got a smokin' deal. One of the reasons I went with CB's is because on CL, people usually want a ton of $$$ for 10 year old junk. Nice find!

Exactly. There's a 2004 XT225 in my area on CL right now for $2200. No thanks.

[pistolclass]

You got a smokin' deal. One of the reasons I went with CB's is because on CL, people usually want a ton of $$$ for 10 year old junk. Nice find!

How true... When I started to get back into riding after being sticker shocked and the Honda dealership I posted a CL add saying that I would pay the mid point between KBB trade in and retail on a used Enduro (CRF, KLX, XT or DR) and I had cash in hand.... not one call.

There were one year old bikes asking more than new (sale price).

I got a HAWK with a group order with Motocheez for $1,200 and I couldn't be happier. Does everything I need it to and it is less than what most folks spend on their cell phone bill for a year. I'm super cheap, I have a tracfone, folks who work for me call in my Obama Phone :) I would like to retire not having to eat Alpo.

[NM RETIRED GUY]

I agree with Culcune about the area of the country that you live in determines the price you pay. Areas such as the southwest, CALF, AZ. are the most expensive places in the country to buy motorcycles. Whereas the midwest and east coast are the cheapest. The power sports dealers in the midwest have four selling seasons,bikes, atvs,snowmobiles,jet skis but the areas where you can ride almost all year don't have to move out their inventory like the seasonal shops do. I grew up in MN. where bikes are cheap in the off season and expensive in peak season. When i retired here in NM.i was shocked at the asking prices for new bikes. The Yamaha xt250 that i bought used cost me $2600, not cheap but a good deal compared to new.The list price for a 2016 is $5200,the best quote i received was $6320 out the door.WTF? The same bike was selling new in MN. for about $4300. Well i wasn't in the mood for a road trip so i bought the used one. I've purchased about 14 new bikes in my life and i've never paid anywhere near list price,on average i would guess about 10% to 25% off. People here in the southwest are just paying way too much when new and than ask way too much when its time to sell. I've talked to many biker types around here and everybody says they paid over list price for just about any model. As for Craig's List there's deals out there and you need to be patient have the cash ready when something pops up. I admit i was lucky finding this Yamaha, but recently me and my neighbor drove 110 miles to pick up a 2004 Honda Reflex 250 with less than 500 miles. We got it for $1600 cash. This was a $6000 bike when new. It was the top of the line with ABS and almost perfect The only problem was a dirty carb because it sat unused for several years but that was a easy fix. For you guys searching for inexpensive bikes keep looking you just never know whats going to turn up. One more thing. I'm still going to buy a China Bike for a winter project.Thats why i've been lurking around here. Good luck.