Hensim DB 150 experience

[John22j]

Some info on my Hensim DB-150.
I haven't completed the break in process yet, but here are my comments thus far.

Bike arrived with only minor shipping rash - nothing serious to me (it is a trail bike after all)
Came with owners manual, parts manual, and Certificate of Origin.

No setup manual, but I didn't need one anyway. What needed to be installed after removing from the crate:
- front tire
- left footpeg with sidestand
- right footpeg with rear brake pedal (and return spring)
- rear exhaust bolt
- rear shock lower linkage bolt
- side number plates (removed seat to install)
- front number plate
- front fender
- fork protectors
- handlebars
- clutch perch on handlebars

If I just wanted to slap it together and go it would have been about 1 1/2 - 2 hours (possibly less)... but I wanted to do a little more than that so it took considerably longer.

Major issues / concerns:
- none so far

Minor details:
- very slight warp in front rotor, but it should be fine for what the bike is intended to do for me
- bearings in steering have flat spot feel to them (I was going to tear it apart and confirm if they were bad, but decided to ride it and see if it becomes a problem -- this is just a play bike for me anyway)
- front spokes; a few just needed to be snugged up - wheel was true enough (rear seemed ok out of the box)
- there was no oil on the air filter foam; easy enough to fix
- I pulled and greased the axles; I’ve always done this to my bikes
- checked torque... everything was close enough to spec, a couple were right at the bottom end of the spec scale
- put blue thread lock and lock washers on many of the bolts
- lubed the clutch and throttle cables; throttle cable seemed to need it
- heat shield bolts came loose quickly on exhaust (even with lock washers), I will check frequently and possibly tack weld them in place if needed.
- replaced the oem Champion P-RA7HC spark plug with NGK DR7EA (also bought a DR8EA, will monitor and determine correct heat range as I get more time on the motor)
- changed oil & inspected the little screen oil filter

General comments:
- I wish the exhaust was just a little less throaty/load; quiet is better if I had a choice
- suspension is very basic (but I knew that before I bought it)
- power is pretty solid for a small 4 stroke motor; I'm pleased
- didn’t want to idle very well and had a slight bog – especially when cold; it’s only 45 degrees out so jetting may not be correct… I’m not concerned, that stuff isn’t usually too hard to correct.
- I'm anxious to hit some hills and see if gearing is going to be a problem - I may need a larger rear sprocket.
- I'm not sure if I will be able to get a title in Ohio with the unsigned Certificate of Origin that came with it, but I don't think I'll be riding at the state/national forests so I may not title it anyway (and I think resale market is non-existent on these bikes .)

Overall, I think for the price this bike is a good deal. It's got some area's that could be improved upon if they wanted to compete with the big 4, but then the price would have to jump.

If you're not mechanically inclined then I would suggest finding a reputable dealer to do the prep for you. Otherwise, the communication I've had with Hensim USA and Ray at www.motofanatix.com prior to and after the sale have all been positive to this point.

I'll have more updates later, but realistically probably not anything substantial until spring - not sure how much quality riding I'll be getting in during the winter.

[John22j]

here are some pictures: Note that they were out of green so they sent me a red bike and then the green plastic -- so don't be alarmed at the color change.... So now I have a green bike with a red spring -- one of a kind... :lol:

Also, I don't have the fork gaurds on -- and that's about all that's left.

http://home.insight.rr.com/janjay/hensim1.jpg

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[CathastrophiX]

I think it looks nice! Hope you´ll enjoy riding it.

[John22j]

I was breaking it in some more today and took it off a small jump (only about 3' or so) to see how it's gonna handle a drop off on the trail and stuff... well if it keeps plugging like it has been so far then I'm gonna be a very happy man. This bike rides as good (if not better) as my '83 XL 80 did 20 years ago and the brakes are definately stronger.

The motor is not a racer, but it's not intended to be.... I'm all giddy that so far I've gotten much much more than I paid for!!! :D (of course it is still very early - time will tell)

A note to add to minor complaints:
The kick starter sticks out a little farther than I'd like -- wish it could tuck in closer to the bike, but it's still ok.

[panterra_rider]

Hmm...brings back memories from June for me. You've said almost everything I have (or would have) said about my bike. That's a good thing...shows the company is consistent at least. Watch for a rattly exhaust after awhile - both my buddy's and mine needed replacing through warranty. I had a leaky fuel petcock too. Otherwise, I'm pleased to hear you're experiencing all the positives I've experienced - especially the value for dollar, man!

Went for a rip on mine today (which is weird for mid-November in Saskatchewan!). Had to increase the idle a little for the cooler temperature and it took awhile to start (been sitting for month) but after fiddling with the choke and idle I got 'er going and went for a 20 minute rip around town. No problems...dare I say the "R"-word? Reliable?

Cheers,
Rian

[John22j]

I'm laughing all the way to the bank so far with this bike... It's just great.

Had it out on some real trails today. Put in over 2 1/2 hours and it never gave me any problems. Climbed every hill, trudged through the thick mud, tackled the big rocks and fallen trees.... I'm so impressed. And some of these trails were tight and tricky -- I tried to go through a section that wasn't quite wide enough... ooops. :lol: no harm, didn't wreck or anything, just stopped, and slid the bars through slowly and on I went.

I haven't cleaned off the mud and checked for lost bolts yet -- if any turn up missing I'll let ya know.

These aren't the greatest quality - but here are some pics from my helmet cam (just stills, I didn't take video)... I'm certainly going back to this place -- 400 acres of fun!!! (the pictures make it look flatter than it really is)

http://home.insight.rr.com/janjay/crow1.jpg

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[blimpman]

I have climbed this hill on my KLR650 many times... Great fun!!!

http://home.insight.rr.com/janjay/crow7.jpg

[John22j]

Doesn't it look much flatter in the pics that it seems in person.

I'll be out there this Saturday (12/16). If you happen to head out there, feel free to flag me down.... I'll be the guy on the little green chinese machine. Later in the day I'm supposed to hook up with a buddy of mine on his utility quad & see what kind of fun we can find out there. :wink:

[blimpman]

Doesn't it look much flatter in the pics that it seems in person.

It is wicked at the very top. Narrows down to a skinny two track up through the trees and you have to get it just right to get through. I did alot of hillclimb practice on that hill. Next spring I'll be back with the Chna Bike and my XT250.

[John22j]

Watch for a rattly exhaust after awhile - both my buddy's and mine needed replacing through warranty.

What ended up being the replacement? I noticed towards the end of my 3 hours pounding this weekend that it started to rattle a bit. Didn't see any loose bolts during a quick onceover and haven't had it running since to really try to diagnose it.

I doubt that I'd mess with warranty stuff because of the hassles of sending parts back... I'll either live with it or just gut the exhaust until I solve the problem. :lol:

Also, I noticed what appears to be the paint coming off of the CDI cover. I don't care because it's not like this is a show bike, but figured I'd point it out for anyone interested.... and the chain streched during this ride - popped off at one point after a hard hit on a downed tree, but went on easy and stayed on the rest of the ride. Neither are big deals in my view.

--- I put some very rough video up from my ride if anyone cares to watch (my wife gets dizzy watching them) :roll:
http://media.putfile.com/crow20061216a

http://media.putfile.com/crow20061216b

[blimpman]

I have not been here yet but I will soon!! This is just south of Canton, Ohio off of Exit 99, Fohl Rd.

http://www.bearcreek.us/features.html#trails

[culcune]

John, I don't know if you knew, but the head office for Hensim always has those little Google ads (<--- to the left) on one of these screens. If you needed parts and such...

[Tom]

Hey nice bike I want to get one I was thinking a 200cc or more but how fast does that 150cc go I might consider one of those oh and where did you get it and how much was it thanks

Tom

[liverchip]

My 200 will now do about 60 after the sprocket change. I am running a 15 front and 40 rear on a 16" rear rim.

[John22j]

I don't know the top speed - I can guarantee it's nowhere near what my KX125 is though.... but it's not supposed to be. I bought it to be a trail bike and it has never left me wanting more -- I'm mostly riding in the woods, and usually do not get above 3rd gear.

I bought mine from www.motofanatix.com and at the time it was $1000 shipped... it doesn't look like they still offer the DB-2 (which is what I have - with the inverted forks) -- but I think there's another Hensim dealer on here that may be able to help you find one.

I'm very pleased with this bike. I had it out last weekend for almost 5 hours of riding through tight woods, deep creeks (had the airbox under a couple of times for brief periods -- was a little scary, but luckily it kept on plugging along), large rocks, long hills.... it was a good ride.

My chain did stretch again - it seems like if I ride more than 3 hours it will pop off after a hard hit... this time it happen to be in the middle of a creek. :roll: -- fortunately the water was only a little above my swingarm so I just popped the chain back on and it was fine for the rest of the day.

Tom, If you are looking for top speed type of riding then you probably want something other than one of these 150's. They are nice trail bikes, with good manageable power, but they are not top speed monsters.

[mdsuave13]

how much does that little 150 weigh? it looks really small and manageable...

I may have to get one of these for tooling around at my grandparents house..

[John22j]

It's about 225 lbs. Seat height is about 32" - has 19"/16" tire setup. (It's almost identical to MrsTrueBattleax's bike)

If you just want a fun little bike to play ride on (say in a yard or a little field) -- pitbikes are small and light... and very easy to throw around.

[Tom]

ok thanks I was actually thinking of a 200cc but theres so many I dont know which one to get I need reliability though because I need something I can just ride and dont have to worry about fixing everyday like my last bike I got rid of I was thinking of this one what do you think

http://www.scootersfactory.com/200cc-qg216-dirt-bike-p-103.html

[John22j]

it looks fine to me - I would doubt the 215lb weight is correct because mine weighs more than that and it doesn't have a battery or electic starter.

To be honest - if you are wanting something that requires almost zero maintenance then you probably shouldn't be looking at chinese bikes -- they are reliable in the motor department, but the bolts and stuff come loose. You may want to find an older Honda XR200 or something similar. I had an old Honda that over 15 years only required tires, a spark plug, a carb cleaning, and oil changes.... they are tanks, and I don't remember any bolts every falling out of it.

[pedez2000]

i love those hensim's dirt bikes i thought the older 150 db 1 was nice but the db 2 is way better. i sell 1 a week out of my shop.there lil 50cc db is killer too.if you ever need parts for this let me know.i'll give you a good deal ok.

[John22j]

if you ever need parts for this let me know.i'll give you a good deal ok.

if you're still in business... I'm letting you know - I need brake pads all around... looks like I'm running on metal as of my last ride. :wink:

Really - these brake pads are not the longest lasting things out there, but I wasn't expecting them to be. If you have some and the price is right I'll probably take 2 or 3 sets off your hands.

For my update - I've had the bike about 1 1/2 years now and so far I've put a new chain on it and now I'm in need of brakes and the back tire will be getting replaced as well.

Cannot complain at all. Power is great for messing around on the trails - and since much of my riding is in mud it just kills my brake pads. Wish there was a solid rotor option I could buy for this to help extend the pad life a little.

One thing I did notice is the seal around the ignition stator is terrible - when you go through creeks and stuff like I do the thing just gets water in there and it rusts - still runs and all, just a miss in the QA or design department on how that fits together.

Didn't ride it as much as I hoped because of riding my KX some days and general life stuff taking my time - but still I've got about 25 hours on the bike and it's holding up just fine.

[110boy]

nice bike i've been looking to buy a Hensim 150 and i was wanting to know where you bought yours atv thanx
jesse

[John22j]

The company I bought mine from seems to have gone out of business, so I can't help you with that....

I can tell you that I think this bike is a really nice general purpose machine. It is great on trails and has very reliable / usable power for low speed tight trails.

It is not a high speed machine and does not have suspension suited for jumps (in my opinion) -- do some searches and I think there are still companies shipping them for around $1k

[ridindirty]

does the hensim 150 come wit the stickers? cuz in ur pics, the red 1 has the stickers, but the green 1 doesnt hav stickers. i want to get a black 1 without the stickers. so wats the deal wit the stickers?

[John22j]

When I ordered they only had red in stock so they sent me a red one and then exchanged the plastic for me -- so the replacement plastic did not have stickers on it.

If you order a black one it will most likely have the stickers on it in the crate - I would suggest a hair drier to take them off, but not sure what the results would be with this plastic.

[panterra_rider]

just FYI, I'm into my third summer with 2 of these Hensim bikes. In Canada, they're distributed as Panterra from Grandwest Enterprises. I got mine for a deal but retail they're not the greatest prices. I think Family

They've still held up fine. Haven't ridden a lot this summer, personally, but out on our land the one has been used by two teenage boys quite a bit. I took that one for a spin and it starts, runs, stops just fine and doesn't require any maintenance except an oil change...for what I paid, and needed them for, they turned out very well for me...in this instance, they outdid the Japanese machines (although, I've been pining for an XR200 myself). Note, I assembled them myself and the loktite did the trick.

Cheers,
R.

[ChiGongJitsu]

good to hear the bikes are holding up, mine is similar to your guys's bikes, but has a 200cc engine, i like the bike alot, it's been great so far, no problems whatsoever

[John22j]

it starts, runs, stops just fine and doesn't require any maintenance except an oil change

Pretty much the same deal for me - never lost any bolts... BUT my brake pads gave up the ghost -- mainly because I am in the mud a lot and the slotted rotors are just terrible for that. (I ordered 3 sets of pads for both front and rear so I should be good for a long time now --- but I would suggest checking those pads the first time you hear them make noise because they are down to the metal in no time after that.)

Still, this bike is rock solid and a great deal for a trail / woods bike. This Vet MX rider loves his Hensim.

[Doug]

Here is where you can still buy these. http://www.atvwholesaleoutlet.com/html/motorcycles.html

Hope this helps....