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cheesy
09-24-2016, 08:55 PM
Russian Piece Of Crap.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-09-24%2014.45.12_zpsjwj2annd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-09-24%2014.45.12_zpsjwj2annd.jpg.html)
But it's my Russian Piece Of Crap.:yay:
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2007 Ural Gear Up. 18,000 mi. Besides the standard Gear Up stuff; jerry can, shovel, spot light, luggage rack, and 2wd, it also has heated grips and a Trail Tech. Runs like a top but will need tires soon. But for ten grand less than the 2016 Patrol I was going to look at, I can stomach a couple hundred for tires.
MICRider
09-25-2016, 08:17 AM
Sweet! You got one! Love the Urals, I've watched many on and off road videos about them and they impress the heck out of me.
Congrats!
FastDoc
09-26-2016, 11:54 AM
Magnificent acquisition comrade Cheese-ski!
I also love Urals!
Is this a surprise or did I miss a thread where you were talking about getting one?
I hope this is in addition to, not instead of the Honda and your lovely bicycle collection.
Be careful on that thing. Sidehacks are weird under the best of circumstances.
Waiting for Wisconsin snow? ;-)
Weldangrind
09-26-2016, 12:23 PM
Awesome! I've been lusting after one for awhile now. The 2WD will make it virtually unstoppable.
Bruce's
09-26-2016, 01:47 PM
I think they are pretty neat as well ,I think I want one .Is that bike sold as a kit ,or is there a dealership network of Russian plumbing stores selling Urinals ?:hmm:
Sport Rider
09-26-2016, 02:07 PM
Most excellent! how are you enjoying driving the rig so far? I have been looking long and hard at them. I've been hesitant due to the problem/repair factors and also lack of highway speed. I went with a sidecar attached to my Nomad instead.
cheesy
09-26-2016, 08:16 PM
Magnificent acquisition comrade Cheese-ski!
I also love Urals!
Is this a surprise or did I miss a thread where you were talking about getting one?
I hope this is in addition to, not instead of the Honda and your lovely bicycle collection.
Be careful on that thing. Sidehacks are weird under the best of circumstances.
Waiting for Wisconsin snow? ;-)
Surprise? Kinda sorta. I received a partial payout of my portion of my late Aunts' estate and told Mrs. C that I was going Ural shopping. I was wanting to look at a 2016 Patrol that the local Ural dealer supposedly had but I never got a response. So, either they didn't have it in stock or they are just really slow to get back to people. I was also kind of hesitant to drop $16,000.00, even if I could pay cash.
So, while I was waiting to hear back, the Gear Up came up on craigslist and it was fairly local. An hour away instead of 15 minutes to the dealer. I contacted the guy on Thursday and agreed to go see it on Saturday. He was asking $6500, I offered $6000 and we settled at $6200.
The Gear Up is their top rig, followed by the Patrol, the CT and the M70. The last two are single wheel drive. Biggest differences between the Gear Up and the Patrol are the accessories. The Gear Up adds a windshield on the bike and a folding windshield on the side car along with a spotlight, the rack over the spare tire, a 20L jerry can, and a small folding shovel. This one also has two solo seats on the bike instead of a bench seat.
Biggest difference between the 16 and the 07 are electronic fuel injection and all that is required to make it work, disk brakes on all wheels, spin on oil filter, and a hydraulic steering stabilizer on the 16. The 07 has Keihen carbs, drums on the rear wheels, cartridge oil filter and a friction type steering stabilizer.
Because I jinxed myself on the Gold Wing and Fiat Spyder, I decided to stay low this time until I actually bought it.
As far as the bikes and the Honda go, we'll see. I don't know if I'm going to ever be able to bicycle like I used to, so it may be time to thin the herd. I just paid for another years' license and insurance on the Honda, so it will stay around until at least next summer. If it stays will depend on how often it gets used.
Weld-I'm just as impressed with having the ability to back up.
Bruce-I count nine dealers in Canada. http://imz-ural.com/dealer-locator.html
SR-I don't have it in my possession yet but the test ride I did was a blast. Had I looked at it on Friday instead of Saturday afternoon, I'd already have it at home. I'm not overly concerned about the reliability issues because fixing things is what I do and most anywhere I want to go I can get to without freeway running. It's already insured and rolling it home on Friday. BTW, I'm planning on being sick on Friday.;)
I'm working in Seattle right now and fly out tomorrow night. Redmond, WA is where Irbit Motorworks, the Ural importer, is located. I'm done early tomorrow and heading to Redmond for the ten cent tour before I fly home.
About the insurance, I had a good laugh with my agent about an option I didn't spring for. It was for free towing to the 'nearest service center'. Not a bad option, but my smart ass remark was, "So they'll tow it home to my garage?"
BlackBike
09-27-2016, 02:24 AM
Whoa...6200 to 16000, that's a helluva of a fuel injector. Glad you went with the used, you will have it running better than factory I'm sure. The reverse , that answered my question. I will have to read up on the 2wd. Neat!
cheesy
09-27-2016, 05:58 PM
I got there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-09-27%2010.36.21_zps0jjwfodv.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-09-27%2010.36.21_zps0jjwfodv.jpg.html)
I had a one on one tour with Jason, who has the same job title as I do, Technical Support Supervisor. It's a small operation so the tour only took about twenty minutes, but I got to see a lot of Urals. Gave me chills. Also got some questions answered about tires, vacuum ports, and bulbs.:tup:
Sport Rider
09-28-2016, 10:51 AM
have you found the soviet steeds forum yet? I'm a member there too. I read a good bit but don't post much because I don't own one at this point. interesting to read though. I have a dealer about 45 minutes away. I really want to get down there sometime to test ride one. at least I'll have something to compare my Nomad against.
cheesy
09-28-2016, 11:27 AM
have you found the soviet steeds forum yet? I'm a member there too. I read a good bit but don't post much because I don't own one at this point. interesting to read though. I have a dealer about 45 minutes away. I really want to get down there sometime to test ride one. at least I'll have something to compare my Nomad against.
Cheesy was taken so I'm cheeseheadmike over there. Like you, I laid low until I had a reason to post.
Sport Rider
09-28-2016, 11:41 AM
Cheesy was taken so I'm cheeseheadmike over there. Like you, I laid low until I had a reason to post.
just to carry it another step further, a number of hack guys post on ADVriders forum and also on the USCA site. on ADV riders, there's an interesting thread about why NOT to buy a ural, but it's mostly positive press about the bike.
cheesy
09-30-2016, 10:17 PM
Got it home tonight. The ride was...different. The closest thing I can compare it to is an early seventies snowmobile with bogie suspension. A bit of body english is needed at times when turning, especially when entering a roundabout. All in all, a fun 35 mile ride, though my upper body took a beating. The CX it ain't. Also, in over forty years of riding, I've never used a heel toe shifter. Something else to learn.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/DSCF0871_zps9sr3rvq3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/DSCF0871_zps9sr3rvq3.jpg.html)
The sidecar. I have two fifty pound bags of sand in there for ballast.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/DSCF0872_zpszgfwzwrv.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/DSCF0872_zpszgfwzwrv.jpg.html)
The dash.
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Either the Trail Tech or the speedo is lying. The speedo will show 65 and the Trail Tech shows 54. I think it's somewhere in between. When I get the new tires on, I'll recalibrate and relocate the Trail Tech.
The new tires showed up today which I thought was pretty good as they weren't supposed to ship until Monday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/DSCF0869_zps3zsprjwq.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/DSCF0869_zps3zsprjwq.jpg.html)
Besides the new tires, there are a few adjustment to make. The rear brakes are way too loose and the idle is too high but that seems to be all I can really fault for now. :hi:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/DSCF0878_zpsqn4ojnwn.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/DSCF0878_zpsqn4ojnwn.jpg.html)
Sport Rider
09-30-2016, 10:30 PM
you might try putting the sandbags in the trunk. that's where I keep mine, closer to the axle of the car tire.
it's a workout to drive these things. you are right aobut the snowmobile concept. left turns are not so tough, but lean your body to the right to help with the right turns.
I know the odometer is KM. is the speedo in MPH? wish you were closer so I could see how the leading link front end does. I'm running standard forks and I can feel the stresses on it in turns.
curious to hear what you think of the 2wd too!
:tup:
cheesy
09-30-2016, 10:49 PM
I had a bunch of tools, filters and stuff that would blow around shoved in the trunk, that's why I have the bags up front. It'll change tomorrow.
I found that a bit of throttle helped with the right turns. A lot of leaning and muscle was needed on the left turn in the roundabout. Though, I was trying not to get run down there. Low speed lefts are pretty easy. Basically, the sidecar just wants to pull you to the right.
The speedo reads in both. The blue is miles.
That leading link front end feels really solid.
wheelbender6
10-01-2016, 10:14 PM
If the Ural is tough enough to be ridden across Mother Russia, it should do just fine in the States.
cheesy
10-02-2016, 06:19 AM
Tagged and titled.:tup:
cheesy
10-02-2016, 01:00 PM
It meets with Mrs. C's approval.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-02%2011.13.52_zps2f0eebsq.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-02%2011.13.52_zps2f0eebsq.jpg.html)
We did about twenty miles just to get some brunch. She says it is a lot more comfortable than the Honda.
However, I had to explain this label on the inside of the tub to her.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-02%2011.45.11_zpsrymdodo0.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-02%2011.45.11_zpsrymdodo0.jpg.html)
BlackBike
10-02-2016, 03:55 PM
Wow, look at that:tup:
I see you could put a 3rd terrorist on there too:p:hehe:
:clap:
Weldangrind
10-03-2016, 11:45 AM
It might be a good idea to check the toe and alignment. Perhaps that'll help with left turns.
FastDoc
10-03-2016, 12:26 PM
That is so cool, CC (Comarade Cheese).
Congratulations!
In Washington 3 wheelers need a special license endorsement. How about out by you?
cheesy
10-03-2016, 03:05 PM
It might be a good idea to check the toe and alignment. Perhaps that'll help with left turns.
That's the plan once I get the new tires on. Also the 25,000km service.
Doc-Two or three wheels makes no difference in Illannoy.
Got the rear brakes adjusted enough that it stops, slowly, with just the rear brakes. I can set the parking brake on my driveway slope and it stays there now. Also rebuilt the rear stoplight switch yesterday.
The guys across the street from where I work came by to see it and asked if I could take their Dad for a ride in the sidecar next week. He's a rider from back when British bikes ruled but he'd never been in sidecar, so I agreed.
FastDoc
10-03-2016, 05:38 PM
One of my patients showed up for his appointment on (in?) his Ural Gear Up this afternoon. Cammo grey/white. Total Badazz :-) My nurse saw it in the parking lot and she loved it. She's more the cowboy F350 sorta gal.
He said it took him 3,000 miles to get used to it but likes it a lot now. Rides it 10,000 miles a year all year. 2WD. Likes to take it camping up in the Blue Mountains on the dirt roads we like to dualsport on. Says scary on off-camber stuff. That I believe that is an understatement!
cheesy
10-04-2016, 05:05 PM
My wife brought our grandson to the shop yesterday so I gave him a ride around the parking lot. I think he likes it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/FB_IMG_1475613219150_zps7aj4szxf.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/FB_IMG_1475613219150_zps7aj4szxf.jpg.html)
My wife posted the above image on Facebook last night and not ten minutes later our niece posted a pic of her boys on the new rig they also brought home last Friday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/FB_IMG_1475613311262_zpsavtsnigz.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/FB_IMG_1475613311262_zpsavtsnigz.jpg.html)
My nieces' husband, Tim, and I traded jabs last night about our rigs.
Tim-Mine's American made.
ME-If it was made during the AMF days, I wouldn't brag about it.
Tim-Mine's nicer looking.
Me-I'll grant you the side car is nicer looking. Does it have a trunk?
Tim-Um, no. But it's lighter.
Me-Granted. Does the tub have a windshield or a spotlight?
Tim-No. But I can go on the interstates.
Me-That's all you got where you live. Can yours back up or go off road.
Tim-No. Can we argue football instead?
Me-We're both Packer fans, that would be like yelling at a mirror. Go fight with the Bears fan you married.
Tim-Man, she hits me when I'm right.
Me-Yup, just her Aunt.:lmao:
Sport Rider
10-04-2016, 09:22 PM
you're acting just as stuck up as the rest of those ural-owning commies! :p:p:p
he forgot to mention parts breaking, motors wearing out, and all the maintenance! :D
(don't worry...it's all just jealousy!) :tup:
Weldangrind
10-05-2016, 11:07 AM
We're both Packer fans, that would be like yelling at a mirror. Go fight with the Bears fan you married.
Best line of the week!
The little Cheese curd looks like he's having a blast.
Darkrider
10-05-2016, 06:19 PM
Best line of the week!
The little Cheese curd looks like he's having a blast.
Dare i say it it looks like he is enjoying the Ural more then the Harley lol
Sport Rider
10-05-2016, 06:22 PM
Dare i say it it looks like he is enjoying the Ural more then the Harley lol
true. I guess those ural rigs ARE fun. :hi:
cheesy
10-06-2016, 05:48 AM
you're acting just as stuck up as the rest of those ural-owning commies! :p:p:p
he forgot to mention parts breaking, motors wearing out, and all the maintenance! :D
(don't worry...it's all just jealousy!) :tup:
Tim and I have done this since he started dating my niece. Whether it's guns, trucks, sports teams, what have you. Usually ended with a clink of beer bottles before they moved out to CA for his job. Miss the guy.
Weld and DR-I found a joint that has seat belts specifically for the side car and sprung for a set. A trip to Cyclegear over the weekend for some headgear and there will be some real smiles.
cheesy
10-08-2016, 08:19 PM
New shoes on the Ural today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-08%2016.04.33_zpsr50fbsjn.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-08%2016.04.33_zpsr50fbsjn.jpg.html)
This is the tire changer I made from the HF Mini changer. It's the catsass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-08%2012.24.02_zpsttxjmrxr.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-08%2012.24.02_zpsttxjmrxr.jpg.html)
Mrs C. likes this rig so well that we're taking it to southern Wisconsin tomorrow to get apples. About a 130 mile round trip.
cheesy
10-08-2016, 08:29 PM
This was the original Russian tire from the side car. I don't think that says Goodyear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-08%2016.24.59_zpsr0gwgdpw.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-08%2016.24.59_zpsr0gwgdpw.jpg.html)
I'm gonna hang this one on the garage wall.
Darkrider
10-08-2016, 10:39 PM
What kind of tires are those Senior Cheese?
cheesy
10-08-2016, 11:11 PM
DR-The new tires are Duro HF 307 off.
Darkrider
10-09-2016, 01:05 AM
DR-The new tires are Duro HF 307 off.
Thanks for the info! def gonna look into them to see if i can get them in the proper sizes for my DT250 and XL185. I have Dunlop Trials tires on the DT now but they are so old it isnt even funny...these have a similar tread.
cheesy
10-09-2016, 06:16 AM
Just be aware that these are a six ply tire for a heavy bike.
Darkrider
10-09-2016, 06:49 AM
Just be aware that these are a six ply tire for a heavy bike.
Fair enough, Good to know even though on the flipside that may help me considering i am a heavier rider. Just something i need to ponder.
Sport Rider
10-09-2016, 04:32 PM
Looking good! how was the apple trip? Curious to hear how the mrs liked the sidecar on the road. my GF is not liking my seat so much, but that was about a 250 mile day, mostly highway.
New shoes on the Ural today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-08%2016.04.33_zpsr50fbsjn.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-08%2016.04.33_zpsr50fbsjn.jpg.html)
This is the tire changer I made from the HF Mini changer. It's the catsass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-08%2012.24.02_zpsttxjmrxr.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-08%2012.24.02_zpsttxjmrxr.jpg.html)
Mrs C. likes this rig so well that we're taking it to southern Wisconsin tomorrow to get apples. About a 130 mile round trip.
cheesy
10-09-2016, 06:25 PM
Mrs. C loved the trip. We did 116.2 miles per the recalibrated Trail Tech. Her only gripe is that the only view to her left is a camo colored motorcycle. She says the seat in the tub is very comfortable. She brought along a wool blanket to keep warm and it worked well. There is a 12v socket in the sidecar that can be used for heated gear if we go that route. With a 50A Denso alternator, it shouldn't be an issue.
Gas mileage left a bit to be desired, I hit reserve at 75 miles, but I didn't have a full tank when I did the reset. Then again, the Ural weighs in at 736 empty. Throw me and Mrs. C in there, plus gear and apples and we are probably pushing close to 1200 lbs. Add the bricklike aerodynamics and I wouldn't be surprised that we'd be doing gallons per mile. Still, around 21 mpg.
I did try the 2wd today. We were trying to back out where we parked at the orchard and it was loose gravel. The pusher just dug in. I engaged the 2wd and walked right out. And it doesn't steer worth a damn in 2wd. As soon as I was out and pointed home, I put it back in 1wd.
While doing the brakes yesterday I found the the u-joints for the sidecar axle are not long for this earth. I found a Ural cross-reference chart and the Precision 134/Spicer 111 is a perfect fit. $13.46 each from Rock Auto. Ordered two. The new tires howl a bit.
Changing out all the fluids tomorrow after work, followed by a complete tune up on Friday morning. I should have all the PO fingerprints off of it by then.
MICRider
10-10-2016, 07:38 PM
That mpg figure is interesting! In all the videos and articles I've read there has never been much mention of the fuel economy of these rigs. I would have thought better than 21... But then again, my GL1200 only did around 30mpg or so, and it's lighter and has less rolling resistance than the Ural.
Actually a smoking deal on one a few hours away from me.. Tempting! :)
cheesy
10-10-2016, 08:52 PM
I'll be doing another mileage check on the next tank.
Did all the fluids tonight. Engine oil was black, trans was clean but way over filled, and final drive was like tar and very low. Set up for winter now.
Sport Rider
10-11-2016, 10:21 AM
my nomad/sidecar gets about 30 mpg. between weight and wind resistance, MPGs get killed. prior to sidecar I was at about 30-40.
Weldangrind
10-11-2016, 12:03 PM
Just be aware that these are a six ply tire for a heavy bike.
That strikes me as a good decision for a two-wheeled adventure bike, along with extra heavy duty tubes.
cheesy
10-11-2016, 09:57 PM
Mileage has gotten a bit better, up to about 25 now.
Darkrider
10-12-2016, 06:11 AM
That strikes me as a good decision for a two-wheeled adventure bike, along with extra heavy duty tubes.
Almost eerie how much you and i think alike on this one Weld....far better puncture resistance on a lighter machine like a DT or XL. Hmmm now i will def need to give this idea some more thought :thanks:
cheesy
10-12-2016, 07:58 AM
On the plus side, the Duros are not super spendy but you'll need to shop around. In the 4.00 x 19 I need, I found them for under $60usd each, but I've seen them as high as $134usd at Ural dealerships.
BlackBike
10-13-2016, 12:24 AM
Wow, 6 ply ! Now were talking
cheesy
10-13-2016, 08:31 PM
Where I got mine.
http://www.motoparthub.com/25_30719_400C_TT_DURO_Hf307_40019_6pr_Tt
cheesy
10-14-2016, 06:34 AM
Almost done with wiping off the PO finger prints. Retorqued the cylinder heads and adjusted the valves, which were a bit tight. Lash should be .003-.005, I couldn't get an .003 in there. Set them at .004.
Checked the plugs and things seem a bit rich. That could be anything from excess idling, a dirty air filter, restrictive exhaust or the wrong plugs. I'm leaning towards plugs. Specs call for an NGK BP7HS and the plugs I pulled are Autolites that may be too cold. Gap was off by almost .010. Regapped and put back in. New NGK plugs will be here on Sunday.
For grins, I decided to check the pilot screw settings. Good thing. Factory is 1.5 turns out. Left carb was .5 and the right was almost 3. I'm surprised it idled at all. Much better now.
Only things left for me to do is pull the air filter to clean it and sync the carbs. The air cleaner looks to be a two cuppa job to get out. It's supposed to be a K & N filter from the factory and my Service Kit went with the old F150 when I sold it. Syncing will be easier than the CX. I don't need to remove anything.
Almost there. This thing is so much easier to work on than the CX.
FastDoc
10-14-2016, 12:09 PM
It sounds much more pleasant and satisfying to work on than a crane.
Weldangrind
10-14-2016, 12:59 PM
For grins, I decided to check the pilot screw settings. Good thing. Factory is 1.5 turns out. Left carb was .5 and the right was almost 3. I'm surprised it idled at all. Much better now.
These bikes strike me as having tractor-like reliability. Much like when you pull a SBC apart, and you can't figure out how it ever started, much less ran.
FastDoc
10-14-2016, 02:37 PM
What's an SBC Weld?
Bruce's
10-14-2016, 02:48 PM
Small block Chevy
cheesy
10-14-2016, 05:14 PM
These bikes strike me as having tractor-like reliability. Much like when you pull a SBC apart, and you can't figure out how it ever started, much less ran.
I think I heard that GM engines manage to continue to run badly long after other engines have quit.
FastDoc
10-14-2016, 05:19 PM
Small block Chevy
Thanks.
Got one of those in the car in my avatar. Good motor. Fast enough to get out of it's own way ;-)
cheesy
10-14-2016, 09:25 PM
Got the seat belt in the sidecar today. Once I got that finished, I decided it was time to take Eli to Cycle Gear and get him his helmet. Got him a Bilt Roadster Helmet in gloss black.
https://www.cyclegear.com/gear/bilt-roadster-helmet
The kid is such a flirt and had the girl who was helping us eating out of his hand. Then he said "Please and Thank You" to her when we checked out and she asked if he wanted to carry the bag.:tup: The guy scored points.
We had lunch together, then Grandpa had to go back to Cycle Gear because he saw something he wanted and lost the rationalization argument with himself.:lol:
I got a vintage looking helmet to go with the vintage looking bike.:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-14%2017.00.40_zpsmmj2zcay.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-14%2017.00.40_zpsmmj2zcay.jpg.html)
Weldangrind
10-15-2016, 02:05 PM
I'd say you won the rationalization argument.
Where does Cheese Curd get the ladies man power from?
Weldangrind
10-15-2016, 02:54 PM
I think I heard that GM engines manage to continue to run badly long after other engines have quit.
Oh man, I pulled one apart one time that was so worn out, I removed the timing chain by hand! On that same car, the battery cable to the starter was down to a couple of strands inside of the tube, and it still started without catching on fire. I've also seen distributor counter-weight studs completely pulled out of the plate, so the mechanical advance doesn't even function. I've seen plug electrodes that are non-existant. Despite all of that, they still run. I suspect you're RPOC will be similarly hearty.
katoranger
10-15-2016, 04:30 PM
The will run bad longer some cars will run. The newer LS engines are taking on the same reputation.
cheesy
10-15-2016, 06:46 PM
I made a new friend today. Not much of a talker, though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-15%2011.11.05_zpsbhbqbasq.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-15%2011.11.05_zpsbhbqbasq.jpg.html)
Weld-I know he doesn't get it from me but it's amusing to watch him work.
Weldangrind
10-16-2016, 11:42 AM
That guy would rather be dead than red.
cheesy
10-17-2016, 11:05 PM
Had the first real Ural hiccup Saturday afternoon. Had me thinking it might cost many rubles but it was a cheap fix, just lots of time to diagnose.
Anyway, after the pic with my new friend was taken, the two of us were in a parade for Bike Bald, a children's cancer organization. Two miles in first gear with a lot of stops. I killed the engine if the stops were more than a couple minutes. The bike was parked for a couple of hours during the rest of the festivities, where I kept saying "No, it's not a BMW.", "Yes, it really is a 2007"., and "Yes, it really is a godless commie Russian motorcycle."
I'm almost home when I had to do a bit of WOT maneuvering to keep from getting smooshed. About a hundred yards further down the road at a normal speed, the right cylinder backfired through the carb and shut down. I got the bike running again and got home with the cylinder cutting in and out and farting through the carb.
Long story short, I got it squared away. A lot of carbon deposits in the right cylinder and I'm guessing something broke loose and ended up on the valve seats. So, carbs were gone through, correct plugs, new K & N air filter, and balanced carbs. I only got a short ride in this evening, so I didn't get a chance to yank a plug to check the color but all is good now.
A few pics of Saturdays' event.
1951 Aston Martin. Unrestored and owned by the same family since 1953. And a ubiquitous 57 Chevy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-15%2013.37.35_zpstad2xmyu.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-15%2013.37.35_zpstad2xmyu.jpg.html)
1956 Lincoln Continental. Had a built 390 under the hood.
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Lambretta.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-15%2013.37.59_zpsf2mtzd8y.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-15%2013.37.59_zpsf2mtzd8y.jpg.html)
FDR giving a speech.
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I kept calling this guy Cap't. Hastings after Hugh Frasers character in 'Poirot'.
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Even though he has Lt. bars.
One of the corrections on the Ural. The right, sooty Autolite plug is supposed to be a direct replacement for the NGK on the right. I don't think so.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-17%2008.03.05_zpsf7gdtsb5.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-17%2008.03.05_zpsf7gdtsb5.jpg.html)
BlackBike
10-17-2016, 11:47 PM
cheesy, good read and pics, thanks.
Weldangrind
10-18-2016, 12:54 PM
Do you have a compression tester? It would be interesting to know if the cylinders are within 10% of each other. Love that Lincoln!
cheesy
10-18-2016, 08:40 PM
Do you have a compression tester? It would be interesting to know if the cylinders are within 10% of each other. Love that Lincoln!
Yes I do, Weld. Two, to be exact, because I couldn't find my good seventy year old one. So, I bought one from HF. Got home and set it down right next to the one I couldn't find.:ohno:
Anywho, on a warm engine that just had 5 ounces of Seafoam shot into each carb and smoked the neighborhood. 124 psi on the cylinder giving me problems and 118 on the other.
One last carb issue to suss and that is new fuel filters and rerouting fuel lines.
cheesy
10-22-2016, 08:13 PM
Running really nice now.
I had some free time this morning and rode down to the local Ural dealer. One, to get some seat time. Two, to see if I could get some small parts thus supporting a local business. And Three, to see if I could meet Jeremy, the local Ural Wizard. Got two out of three. Jeremy doesn't work weekends.
I did have a nice chat with one of the business owners, though. She asked if I got my Ural from them and I had to tell her no. Then I mentioned that I had sent two emails requesting a test ride and received nary a reply. I saw the 'deer in the headlight stare', followed by a reddening face, followed by a sigh, and then an apology. Methinks someone may be in for a butt chewing.
I was able to get the parts I came in for, a pair of oil filter seals(mine was missing, got an o-ring in its place). I was offered a pair of Russian oil filters cheap, so I got those, too.
Here's out front. The one I'd wanted to see is the Patrol on the left.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-10-22%2012.21.32_zps9uezv4h8.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-10-22%2012.21.32_zps9uezv4h8.jpg.html)
The Gray one is a Gear Up like mine. The orange one is the CT. The CT is the sports car, the others are Jeeps.
cheesy
10-24-2016, 09:13 AM
The carb work and tuneup paid off. Up to almost 29 mpg.:tup:
FastDoc
10-24-2016, 12:44 PM
Glad she is running good!
Good on you for supporting the little guy when you can. I do the same with some bicycle stuff from the LBS's.
Neat pic to see so many Urals. Happy to see you are still having good riding weather.
Sport Rider
10-24-2016, 04:52 PM
The carb work and tuneup paid off. Up to almost 29 mpg.:tup:
mine gets 30! :p:p:p
cheesy
10-24-2016, 05:28 PM
mine gets 30! :p:p:p
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
Mine backs up.
BlackBike
10-25-2016, 12:51 AM
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
Mine backs up.
Oh yeah- boo yah :lmao::lmao::lmao:
Sport Rider
10-25-2016, 10:38 AM
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
Mine backs up.
Mine cruises at 70 on the interstate. :hi:
(I now feel like part of the family just like your brother-in-law!) :D
cheesy
10-25-2016, 11:31 AM
Hah. Point conceded.
FastDoc
10-25-2016, 12:48 PM
Speaking of 'modern antiques' my Enfield will get 70 MPG but it takes a loooong time to go that far ;-)
As far as range goes you can store jerry cans in the sidecar and have enough range to cross Siberia, which I'm sure was part of the Ural's original design parameter.
cheesy
10-28-2016, 11:06 AM
I'm killing time at MIA this morning and had a think. I need a bicycle rack on the Ural.
FastDoc
10-28-2016, 12:13 PM
That's the spirit!!!
I'd love to see that.
On the Gold Wing forum I've seen some well engineered bicycle racks. With the sidecar I bet there are plenty of ways to do a good job. I'd be EXTRA jealous for that.
cheesy
10-28-2016, 08:56 PM
Waiting for me at O'hare.
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Sport Rider
10-28-2016, 10:19 PM
bike rack.....here's one I saw this summer at my Concours Owners Group national.
cheesy
10-29-2016, 08:30 AM
bike rack.....here's one I saw this summer at my Concours Owners Group national.
One of my fixed gear buddies has a similar setup on his V-Strom.
I'm probably going to go across the back with a receiver style hitch, mostly because the likely candidate to be hauled anywhere is one of my British 3 speeds, which, with a generator hub, are a PITA to remove and install front wheels on.
cheesy
10-29-2016, 04:37 PM
mine gets 30! :p:p:p
Took the side car windshield off before running back and forth to O'hare. Brought it up to 31.5.
So:p. :D
Joking aside, it's all dialed in. Plugs are a light tan now, not the powdered soot I had before. Neutral switch is adjusted enough that the light only comes on in neutral. Well, most of the time, anyway.:shrug: I also added a pad to the brake pedal from Ural of New England. Raises the contact point on the pedal about 3/4 " and basically adds that 3/4" to the pedal travel. Which means I now have real rear brakes instead of 'retarders'.
Time to clean up and go to out to dinner with Mrs. C. If it wasn't going to rain, we'd take the Ural.
FastDoc
10-31-2016, 06:32 PM
bike rack.....here's one I saw this summer at my Concours Owners Group national.
Fascinating.
I don't like the nylon strap around the bike's headset, looks like it would wear the paint but other than that some fine engineering there.
Nice Connie too. Great bikes.
FastDoc
10-31-2016, 06:50 PM
One of my fixed gear buddies has a similar setup on his V-Strom.
I'm probably going to go across the back with a receiver style hitch, mostly because the likely candidate to be hauled anywhere is one of my British 3 speeds, which, with a generator hub, are a PITA to remove and install front wheels on.
You probably know this but I recommend going with a rack that has elongated 'loops' to hold the wheels and an inverted 'U' shaped padded bar to hold down the top tube. This will keep the bike from swinging on a 'hang and bang' type rack. Nashbar has a good one pretty inexpensive.
FastDoc
10-31-2016, 06:52 PM
Nearly November and still riding weather in Cheeseland;-)
Maybe God extenting your season a bit to make up for lost time this summer.
cheesy
10-31-2016, 07:51 PM
Nearly November and still riding weather in Cheeseland;-)
Maybe God extenting your season a bit to make up for lost time this summer.
Such a waste, because I'm not there as my employer is also making up for lost time.:hehe:
cheesy
11-05-2016, 07:06 AM
Eli and I went for a short ride last night and he was sporting his new lid with, wait for it, Iguana spines.:lol:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-11-04%2017.56.42_zpslc3xhv6k.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-11-04%2017.56.42_zpslc3xhv6k.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2016-11-04%2017.56.29_zpsxrfzi8ib.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2016-11-04%2017.56.29_zpsxrfzi8ib.jpg.html)
Three years old and wears an adult XS. A more than typical Friday night in town. November 4th, a Friday, almost 70F, people basking in a World Series win on the street and Eli waving to everybody.
Sport Rider
11-05-2016, 11:56 AM
where did you get those? I need to get those for my grandson! :tup:
cheesy
11-05-2016, 03:59 PM
where did you get those? I need to get those for my grandson! :tup:
Amazon. Search 'motorcycle helmet mohawk'.
FastDoc
11-07-2016, 12:03 PM
I hope those fins are soft...
cheesy
11-07-2016, 04:59 PM
I hope those fins are soft...
Just rubber.
cheesy
11-12-2016, 08:51 AM
Wiped off a few more PO finger prints I didn't know about until just before we left for Puerto Rico. One thing done to improve performance is to remove the cats and mid pipes on late carbed models. That was done on mine and I didn't know it. A rejet is required, which wasn't done. I also had a slight leak on one float bowl. So new gaskets, too.
I only found out because I bought the 'Cylinder Head Temp' harness for the Trail Tech and pegged the head temp on a cold day. Pulled a plug and it was white. Checked the jets and they were stock, which, like the Chinese, the Russians set the bikes lean to get around US emission standards.
Which would explain the three washers on the needle. Two washers was too lean, after pulling the cats, so the PO added another washer instead of rejetting.
As I've learned with these beasts, baby steps when making changes. The stock set up is Keihen 130 main and 40 idle. The recommended set up is 132 main and 42 idle, with a caveat. The recommended set up is a base line and best to take it one change at a time. Some guys run 128 main and 45 stock. So I swapped out the idle jets to start. Backfiring through the carb when cold is gone and the low end feels better. So that's an improvement. Haven't gotten out on the highway to see if I need to up the main yet but that will happen sometime today.
Sport Rider
11-12-2016, 11:02 AM
all this china bike maintenance is paying off with the ural! :tup:
BTW...I didn't have to do anything to my fuel injected Nomad/sidecar. :p
seriously though, glad you're getting it dialed in better. :clap:
cheesy
11-13-2016, 07:34 PM
Back to work tomorrow. Have my priorities already loaded.
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Did around a hundred miles today. Put the side car windshield back on yesterday. That costs about 3 mpg. Still nicer to gas up at 125 miles and take on less fuel than the first run at 80 miles. Mrs. C may be done riding for the season so I'll yank the windshield for the winter.
katoranger
11-14-2016, 09:14 AM
When you engage two wheel drive does it lock the wheels together or does it still have a differential?
cheesy
11-14-2016, 09:31 AM
They're locked together. Steering is wishful thinking.
Sport Rider
11-14-2016, 03:56 PM
I had my rig out Saturday. went about 100 miles too, to see my grandson's championship football game for the fall season. did some interstate at 70 and some back country roads through south carolina. I'm realizing how much impact the screen on the sidecar has when crusing on the highway.
katoranger
11-14-2016, 07:35 PM
They're locked together. Steering is wishful thinking.
That is what I thought. Like the tractor with the diff lock engaged.
cheesy
11-14-2016, 07:53 PM
That is what I thought. Like the tractor with the diff lock engaged.
Exactly.
cheesy
11-19-2016, 06:17 PM
Looking for some suggestions.
I rode the Ural to O'hare on Wednesday and ended up turning on the heated grips about halfway there. I only used the 'LOW' setting(35%). Kinda like that first experience with a heated seat, it was that nice.
Last night, riding back from O'hare, 35F, snow and 45mph headwinds. It was effing cold. Switched on the grips before I left the parking lot. Bumped them up to 'MED' setting (70%). Palms warm as toast, digits like ice. Wearing my Aussie winter gloves(a misnomer, I know) that I wear on the CX and my hands have never felt that cold.
Biggest difference between the two bikes is the windshields(You know what I mean;)). Large windshield on the CX that extends to the grips. Smaller windshield on the Ural does not extend to the grips. The obvious answer is I need to block the wind from my hands. So, brush guards, the same windshield as on the CX, or something else?
Sport Rider
11-19-2016, 08:48 PM
brush guards would be cheaper, but I'd vote for the wider shield. it would be a better overall look. either way though, it'll sure help. :tup:
Barnone
11-20-2016, 06:22 AM
My 2015 Ural cT on one of my last trips to Deal's Gap AKA the Dragon. Santa Claus was there so I figured it was about time to migrate to SW Florida for the winter.
Barnone
11-20-2016, 06:26 AM
Now in FL for the winter. Got my double hook rig ready for the visiting grand children. LOL
Sport Rider
11-20-2016, 02:21 PM
Barnone....had no idea you were on here. I'm also on soviet steeds and the usca forum too. small world. :hi:
cheesy
11-21-2016, 07:07 AM
Barnone-Great pics. Tell me about that bike rack set up. That's just what I am looking for. I just got back from working in Ft. Lauderdale on Friday and now looking out at Penobscot Bay in Maine. I'm cheeseheadmike at advrider and soviet steeds.
Sport Rider
11-21-2016, 09:13 AM
Barnone-Great pics. Tell me about that bike rack set up. That's just what I am looking for. I just got back from working in Ft. Lauderdale on Friday and now looking out at Penobscot Bay in Maine. I'm cheeseheadmike at advrider and soviet steeds.
looks to be a standard bike carrier setup which inserts into the hitch receiver.
Weldangrind
11-21-2016, 12:04 PM
Looking for some suggestions.
I rode the Ural to O'hare on Wednesday and ended up turning on the heated grips about halfway there. I only used the 'LOW' setting(35%). Kinda like that first experience with a heated seat, it was that nice.
Last night, riding back from O'hare, 35F, snow and 45mph headwinds. It was effing cold. Switched on the grips before I left the parking lot. Bumped them up to 'MED' setting (70%). Palms warm as toast, digits like ice. Wearing my Aussie winter gloves(a misnomer, I know) that I wear on the CX and my hands have never felt that cold.
Biggest difference between the two bikes is the windshields(You know what I mean;)). Large windshield on the CX that extends to the grips. Smaller windshield on the Ural does not extend to the grips. The obvious answer is I need to block the wind from my hands. So, brush guards, the same windshield as on the CX, or something else?
I had a couple of good laughs over that post. :D
I have a cheap set of "Acerbis" bark busters that I bought on Taobao, and I also bought the add-on spoilers. I haven't added the spoilers yet, but they'll certainly help keep the wind off in colder weather. The good news is that the bark busters are very well made and cheap.
If I was interested in riding in actual snow on a hack, I'd search for a set of Hippo Hands. Hippo Hands combined with grip heaters would be awesome.
cheesy
11-21-2016, 07:53 PM
looks to be a standard bike carrier setup which inserts into the hitch receiver.
Kinda what I thought. I have the rack, wondering where and how to mount the receiver.
Sport Rider
11-22-2016, 09:16 AM
Kinda what I thought. I have the rack, wondering where and how to mount the receiver.
I'd bet if you hit the soviet steeds site you'd have an answer in about 10 minutes! :D
cheesy
11-22-2016, 05:44 PM
I'd bet if you hit the soviet steeds site you'd have an answer in about 10 minutes! :D
Tried that more than once and all I got was confused. :lol:
Barnone got back to me with a description and pics. After seeing his pics, I was "Well, duh".
Barnone
11-22-2016, 10:31 PM
Barnone....had no idea you were on here. I'm also on soviet steeds and the usca forum too. small world. :hi:
Yep, I hang out at all low life forums. LOL
Grandsons aka monkeys in my rig before taking them for a ride around the pasture.
Barnone
11-22-2016, 10:46 PM
looks to be a standard bike carrier setup which inserts into the hitch receiver.
Just a 4' piece of 1 1/2" square tubing U bolted to the sidecar frame. 1/8" wall thickness allows a 1 1/4" bicycle rack.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-BIKE-RACK-AUTO-TRUCK-TRAILER-1-1-4-2-HITCH-BICYCLE-/400217265428
Sport Rider
11-23-2016, 11:38 AM
Yep, I hang out at all low life forums. LOL
Grandsons aka monkeys in my rig before taking them for a ride around the pasture.
and yet you're STILL not gonna find me a moonshine source? :p
should be up your way in the spring again for a COG rally. maybe you can show me some good dirt roads to exercise the hawk on. took it up last spring and did a few forest service roads and joyce kilmer until my chain broke. (long story)....
Barnone
11-23-2016, 06:06 PM
SR, I'll get Jim Tom to hook you up with some shine in the sprang (spring).
cheesy
12-03-2016, 08:43 PM
Trying some photo posting with Flickr as Photobucket is still hit and miss after a full month.
Eli has been promoted to full Monkey today.
https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5667/30592346343_8ccde74fe5.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NBkLKi)
It was cold and overcast but we still had a good time riding around the Dundees.
He saw a playground and requested we stopped. He had a ball and I got cold.
https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5765/30592212933_0dced3589f.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NBk668)
It took a bribe of real hot coco to get him back in the tub.:hehe:
The home and garage in the background is owned by a local couple who eat, breathe, and sleep Harley Davidson.
Barnone
12-03-2016, 10:11 PM
Taking the grandsons for a ride.
BlackBike
12-03-2016, 10:59 PM
All..., making memories :tup:
cheesy
12-23-2016, 04:06 PM
Rode in the snow with 2WD today.:clap: More fun than I'm legally allowed to have.
cheesy
12-24-2016, 09:21 AM
https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/602/31033045033_7c8d9e9157_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Phht7z)
Sport Rider
12-24-2016, 11:43 PM
I need to see some action photos!
I haven't had mine out in about a month. :doh:
Barnone
12-25-2016, 08:54 AM
Vance is ready for some action.
cheesy
12-27-2016, 09:15 PM
A couple from yesterday. That's friend n8.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/778/31058964704_c064dca500.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pjzj8s)
https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/362/31782551701_845d418f0f.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QqvTkk)
Our snow is gone. For now.
BlackBike
12-27-2016, 10:16 PM
Wow, that store front looks from 1959 :D
Barnone
12-28-2016, 08:22 AM
^^^^^
I was thinking the same thing. Like that store front.
cheesy
12-31-2016, 05:45 PM
Did some carb futzing today. Found a place called 6 Sigma Jet Kits that will build up a jet kit for your bike based on make, model, and elevation. http://www.6sigmajetkit.com/
Saved ten bucks by going through amazon.
Stock jets in my Ural were 130 main and 40 low speed. I felt the jetting was too lean after fixing all the PO induced problems. Basically white plugs. Also had a lot of farting and snorting on cold mornings. I upped the low speed to 42 and that helped a bit but still felt I was still too lean at speed. Plugs were still too light.
So, I ordered the kit and gave 6 Sigma my specs. Got a kit with three different sized main jets, 2 each of 127.5, 132.5 and 137.5. A pair of 45 low speed jets, a #35 drill bit and a 5/32 bit, a bunch of needle shims and several pages of instructions.
In a nutshell, replaced the 42 low speed jet with the 45, replaced the 130 main with the 132.5, used the #35 bit to open the air passage in the slide. Two needle shims are recommended and that's what I already had, so I did nothing there. Mixture screw 2.5 turns out and put the 5/32 bit in my drawer because I didn't need to drill out any caps. This is to establish a baseline.
First thing I needed to do was up the idle a tad. Idle is 800-1000rpm and 900 seems to be the happy place once warmed up. I was sitting at 600. After letting the engine warm up, the idle was set around 900 and I went for a short ride. Just from the 'seat of my pants', there is a noticeable improvement in throttle response and acceleration. It was a bit chilled (29F) today and I wasn't really dressed for an extended ride, so I didn't get a lot of testing in. One obvious thing is that the exhaust now has the same slightly rich scent as the CX.
Doing my annual 35-45 mile Polar Bear Ride tomorrow and will pull a plug when I get home but I already have a good feeling about what I will find.
Sport Rider
01-02-2017, 12:16 PM
when I do buy one of these, I'm bringing it to you for tuning! :yay:
how did the ride go? I've been sick for a week now and have not gotten my sidecar tire put back on yet. sure would love to ride some even though we're getting rain. :ohno:
cheesy
01-02-2017, 04:16 PM
when I do buy one of these, I'm bringing it to you for tuning! :yay:
how did the ride go? I've been sick for a week now and have not gotten my sidecar tire put back on yet. sure would love to ride some even though we're getting rain. :ohno:
That's a heck of a trip for a tune up.;)
The bike ran really well.
In cold temps like we had yesterday, I'd normally pull the enrichers out for each carb and let the engine idle for 30-45 seconds before closing them and then blip the throttle to keep up the idle. Next, I'd back out of the garage and let the engine warm up while I don my gear and close the door. Then, slowly take off while the engine farted and snorted until I got the rpms up enough to get off the idle circuit.
Yesterday, pulled out the enrichers and started the engine. Within ten seconds, I needed to close them because the engine was starting to load up. Didn't need to blip the throttle to keep up the idle. Backed out, donned my gear and took off like it was eighty degrees out. No farting or snorting at all.
Being able to accelerate uphill in forth was a pleasant surprise. Also, not having the idle drop to almost stalling at a stop light was plus. Just sat nicely at 900 every time I came to a stop.
I didn't get a chance to pull a plug yesterday. Feeling 'blah' today, so not happening today, either.
One thing I forgot to mention is that 6 Sigma also needs to know what exhaust mods, if any, were done. Mid pipe/cats were removed on mine. Which is probably why there were three shims on the slide needle and the mixture screws were backed out so far when I got the bike.
6 Sigma can do up a kit for just about any bike. Just so you know.
Weldangrind
01-03-2017, 10:57 AM
Senor Queso, do you think you'll need to lean the mixture out in the summer?
cheesy
01-03-2017, 06:52 PM
That remains to be seen, Weld.
I don't do squat to the CX as far as mixture goes once it's set. The Ural carbs are also CV, although CVKs instead of VBs, so it shouldn't be an issue. At most, maybe turn the fuel screw in a half turn or so when things warm up. That said, the Urals' carbs are out in front of God and everybody while the CX carbs are tucked up behind the engine, dry and warm.
Weldangrind
01-04-2017, 12:40 PM
I forgot about the CV design. They strike me as the Rochester Quadrajet of the motorcycle world, and I presume they're more forgiving to elevation and temperature changes.
cheesy
01-04-2017, 08:36 PM
I forgot about the CV design. They strike me as the Rochester Quadrajet of the motorcycle world, and I presume they're more forgiving to elevation and temperature changes.
I like that analogy, even though I cut my teeth on Holleys and Carters. My 85 (or was it 84?)Suburban had a Quadrajet and the only problem it ever gave me was when a couple of idiot squirrels stored their stash of nuts under the throttle linkage. 2000 rpm idle.:wtf:
cheesy
01-07-2017, 06:46 AM
I found something to go with the Ural this week at a surplus store in MinneSnowta.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-01-03%2019.11.00_zps987zbhmk.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-01-03%2019.11.00_zps987zbhmk.jpg.html)
The Ushanka is actually Slovakian and the star is a doodad the store sells with the hat, so post-Soviet era. It's unbelievably warm and it was on clearance. I paid eight bucks for it.
I was wearing it yesterday morning in the sub-zero weather when I went outside to help a truck driver detach his froze up trailer. The trucker looks at me and says in a thick Russian accent, "Are you from Mother Russia, too?" I told him no and that I got the hat to go with my Russian bike and I liked how warm it was.
"You have Ural?" He pronounced it 'OO-Rahl', which sounds better than 'Yer-all'.
"Not very fast." Nope.
"You have reverse?" Uh-huh
"Sometimes good bike, some times sheet bike."
"You have driven sidecar wheel?" Yup. At which point I got a :tup:.
We BS'ed about Urals, Harleys, and Hondas as I loaded his trailer with another hi rail crane. I think this is the 212th one I've loaded in the last 20 years.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-01-06%2012.03.03_zpsmhaguehf.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-01-06%2012.03.03_zpsmhaguehf.jpg.html)
The 213th was loaded later in the day.
I wish I'd remembered to take a pic when he showed me his Russian Army Officers Ushanka hat. Mine paled in comparison.
BlackBike
01-07-2017, 11:26 AM
:tup: :yay:
Sport Rider
01-07-2017, 09:12 PM
I found something to go with the Ural this week at a surplus store in MinneSnowta.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-01-03%2019.11.00_zps987zbhmk.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-01-03%2019.11.00_zps987zbhmk.jpg.html)
.....
I wish I'd remembered to take a pic when he showed me his Russian Army Officers Ushanka hat. Mine paled in comparison.
I'd say you're completely hooked! :tup:
great story!
cheesy
01-09-2017, 10:21 PM
I got spotted today.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208060026397901&set=pcb.1096798203765719&type=3&theater
Props to the guy taking the pics because he didn't take any of when I slipped and fell on my butt. At least I kept the pizza 'cheesy' side up.
cheesy
01-16-2017, 08:34 PM
Rained really hard today and I didn't think the Ural would float, so I used the day to replace the sidecar drive U-joints. Somewhat of a PITA but easier than the Jeep.
Looks like I may be freshening up the final drive in the not to distant future, too. Nothing serious happening but there is some slop in the pinion shaft. I'll need to open it up to set the lash, so I may as well replace the pinion bearings and all the seals while I'm at it. No sparklies in the gear oil so nothing is disintegrating, which is a good thing.
Sport Rider
01-16-2017, 09:54 PM
that's the reason I'm really leaning away from the urals. I love the style and idea of them, but the maintenance side of things scares me away. I know it's not THAT big of a deal, but I don't really want to spend that kind of time and energy keeping things working.
I have been thinking lately about finding a nice used triumph bonnie that I could fit up to a ural style sidecar. then install leading links on the front and some nice dual sport wheels front and rear. the only downside I can see is the chain drive.
If I can just win the lottery all these dreams can some true. :cry:
cheesy
01-16-2017, 10:58 PM
No worries, SR.
Just one of the things I'm used to, I guess. One of my Dads' favorite 'Dadisms' is "If you can't fix it, you probably shouldn't own it". He got that from his Dad. Who probably got it from his Dad. So, I do the maintenance on everything we own save for oil changes on the Audi. I'll pay someone to drop that damn splash pan.
I knew the u-joints were worn going into this. The PO said he wasn't big on PM and probably made things worse when he tried. Said he wouldn't touch a thing on his Ducati.
As far as the final drive goes, I was checking something else when I spotted the slop. I also figured out that someone has been into it once before because some things just ain't how they should be. That brought out more of a sigh than the slop in the pinion shaft. Which also makes me think there may be little more wrong with it other than poor set up. The bad thing is that either poor set up or worn parts, it has to come out and taken down.
Sport Rider
01-17-2017, 09:46 AM
Oh, I get it. it's not that I CAN'T do maintenance items (and more). I do everything on my other bikes myself too. Difference is probably that the metalurgy and overall design is better quality than the old ural approach. the CB has far less moving parts to go wrong, so it's not so bad. I'm really torn about them though. as you mention, yours is about lack of attention.
given a good bike, how much time do you estimate spending to do the routine things to keep it in good order?
cheesy
01-17-2017, 08:18 PM
The first time you do anything it takes longer.:)
Figure an hour for a COMPLETE oil change. That's engine, oil filter, tranny, and rear end. A good part of that hour is changing the oil filter if it's a cartridge like I have. That crossover exhaust pipe below the filter housing can get a little burny at times. Add a bit more time if you used an EMGO filter instead of the Russian filter.:ohno: Maybe a half hour just to do the engine.
Engine oil is every 1500 miles, trans is 3000 miles, final drive is every 6000 miles.
Valve adjustment is every 6000 miles, too. Figure an hour because the heads should be retorqued, too, and the bolts on the sidecar side are a bit hard to access. I just cut down a socket. Good thing is that the valve cover gaskets can be reused several times.
Once a year for wheel bearings and they're pretty easy, just messy. Shocks are rebuildable and usually just need a top up on oil. It's just that there are five of them.
Just figure on a major service every 6000 miles for a carbed Ural and maybe 3 hours if you aren't in a hurry. Can't answer for the fuelie bikes.
By comparison, major service on my CX takes just about as long because nothing is easily accessed.
Sport Rider
01-17-2017, 09:05 PM
quite a bit of attention those old gals require. How about the wear items? brakes, rotors, bearings, etc, etc?
cheesy
01-17-2017, 10:13 PM
The Russian brake shoes are beefy, with a capital B. The lining is around 12mm thick. I don't know if I'll ever need to replace them. Getting the shoes initially dialed in is what takes time. A lot of different adjustments required. Once set, it's just turning a nut just like a drum brake bike.
Front brake is a four piston Brembo and very powerful. Stops a half ton quite well and I imagine wear on the pads and rotor is dependent on rear brake adjustment. The newer bikes have disks on all three corners and are a different animal.
Bearings are a crapshoot. When it does come time to replace one, go with something like FAG, SKF, Nichi, or Timkin. Same with seals.
U-joints are dependent on lubrication. I just replaced the original Russian ones in the sidecar axle that had no zerks. I replaced them with zerked Moog joints that should outlast me. The propshaft joint is Ural specific and now comes with a grease zerk. There is no room to use a standard grease gun, though, if the zerk is in the cross, so you need to use a needle. The newest ones have a zerk on one of the cups.
The clutch would depend on how well it's adjusted and rider skill. It's a dry double disk and big.
The last thing I can think of is the 'donut' between the tranny and the propshaft. It's a big hunk o' hard rubber with a metal band around it that acts as the front u-joint. Also Ural specific and it's longevity depends on how well the final drive and propshaft are aligned.
Weldangrind
01-18-2017, 10:55 AM
Does the doughnut resemble a rag joint?
Sport Rider
01-18-2017, 10:56 AM
sounds like you have already become quite an expert with urals! :tup:
I'm not pulling the trigger any time soon. I spent too much last year on toys, so need to curtail my spending this year. I've got a few small updates to do on my current sidecar to beef up the swingarm and perhaps go with leading links on the bike. other than that, I'm going to try to just enjoy them this year! :clap:
cheesy
01-18-2017, 01:09 PM
Does the doughnut resemble a rag joint?
#2 in the pic, weld.
http://live.uralcatalog.com/details/852
cheesy
01-19-2017, 07:47 AM
Swapping out the u-joints took care of the noise I was getting. Now, I just have the howl of the knobbies. Same noise I had with the sadly missed Hi-bird.
cheesy
01-20-2017, 08:55 PM
sounds like you have already become quite an expert with urals! :tup:
I'm weird that way. I try to learn as much as possible about my toys.
cheesy
01-21-2017, 04:54 PM
Something new was added today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-01-21%2015.15.09_zpsetruy5bi.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-01-21%2015.15.09_zpsetruy5bi.jpg.html)
Farm & Fleet had a three pack of ammo boxes and I sprung. One Fat .50 cal, a .50 cal, and a .40 cal all nested together like Russian dolls.:ohno: (sorry)
I went with the .50 cal as it didn't hang quite as low as the axle. Mounted with four 1/4" x 1" carriage bolts. A good place to put the tool roll a spare tubes.
The USFS chevron was just a goody I had laying around.
Now to figure out what to do with the other two boxes.
Sport Rider
01-22-2017, 09:18 PM
nice add! :tup:
zingshoen
01-23-2017, 08:07 AM
great thread, cheesy, great read! how could a camo gear up not suit?
cheesy
01-29-2017, 03:30 PM
I sprang for a pair of handle bar mitts a couple of weeks ago. Why, oh why haven't I done this before?
My first impression wasn't too great because my first inclination was to ride with my Aussie winter gloves on. Not a smart move on my part, no room.
Second try was with a pair of thin wool liners. Much better.
Today, it was well diggers butt cold and I grabbed my rifle mittens by mistake. I realized that as I was leaving and just threw them in the sidecar, then turned on the heated grips and rode bare handed. Wow! Toasty warm and able to work everything without a hitch.
Mine are Badass Sharks, which are exactly the same as Audew and several others. Less than twenty bucks with Amazon Prime.
Sport Rider
01-29-2017, 04:37 PM
hey...I got some news on my end. I picked up a set of leading links from a GL1200 goldwing. they were in pretty "used" shape, but servicable. I'll tear them apart and clean them up and perhaps some further paint.
so...after fiddling, I discovered they are the exact dimensions of my Concours 1000. Now I'm thinking that the C10 may become my tug and get a sidecar for that instead of using the Nomad. First step will be to get parts to build the rest of the front end out of a GL. just need wheel, rotors and brakes.
once I have the set, I can do some test fitting to the C10 and decide how to proceed next. I know I need a sub-frame for the C10 since the motor is a stressed member. others have done it though, so I know it's possible. with a dual sport or maybe a car tire on the rear, and a reverse rear on the front, it should make a good setup.
yet another project begins..:hi:
cheesy
01-31-2017, 07:11 AM
hey...I got some news on my end. I picked up a set of leading links from a GL1200 goldwing. they were in pretty "used" shape, but servicable. I'll tear them apart and clean them up and perhaps some further paint.
so...after fiddling, I discovered they are the exact dimensions of my Concours 1000. Now I'm thinking that the C10 may become my tug and get a sidecar for that instead of using the Nomad. First step will be to get parts to build the rest of the front end out of a GL. just need wheel, rotors and brakes.
once I have the set, I can do some test fitting to the C10 and decide how to proceed next. I know I need a sub-frame for the C10 since the motor is a stressed member. others have done it though, so I know it's possible. with a dual sport or maybe a car tire on the rear, and a reverse rear on the front, it should make a good setup.
yet another project begins..:hi:
Keep us informed. I'd like to see the set up.
cheesy
02-02-2017, 09:36 PM
Sussed the speedo issue. Not fixed, but at least I know the reason why now. Apparently, there is a high speed gearset (3.89:1) for these beasts. Stock is 4.62:1. I can tell that the speedo gears have been changed in the past and I bet I have the high speed set in there. About thirty five bucks and a couple of beers to correct.
But then, I have the Trail Tech now dialed into within 0.5 mph of my Garmin. I don't think I am going to rush this.
Sport Rider
02-02-2017, 10:02 PM
got some more parts for my GL1200 front end. wheel and axle arrived, with brake calipers and rotors on the way. the stock axle is going to be workable on the forks, so wheel should be a shoe-in. I'll just need appropriate spaces to get it all lined up. I have a source for a speedo gearset too. other than getting brake lines, I should have everything I need to do initial setup. then strip it down and clean/paint what needs.
the project is progressing!!! :)
cheesy
02-03-2017, 09:29 PM
got some more parts for my GL1200 front end. wheel and axle arrived, with brake calipers and rotors on the way. the stock axle is going to be workable on the forks, so wheel should be a shoe-in. I'll just need appropriate spaces to get it all lined up. I have a source for a speedo gearset too. other than getting brake lines, I should have everything I need to do initial setup. then strip it down and clean/paint what needs.
the project is progressing!!! :)
Pics!
cheesy
02-12-2017, 08:56 PM
On the fourth tank of fuel since the jet upgrade. As expected, the mileage dropped a tad with the bigger main jet. I'll put up with the mileage drop for the increase in performance. Also, every ride has been in stop and go traffic. Average is around 27 mpg. On par with Mrs. C's Audi. A little better than half of the CX mileage.
Sport Rider
02-13-2017, 09:25 AM
On the fourth tank of fuel since the jet upgrade. As expected, the mileage dropped a tad with the bigger main jet. I'll put up with the mileage drop for the increase in performance. Also, every ride has been in stop and go traffic. Average is around 27 mpg. On par with Mrs. C's Audi. A little better than half of the CX mileage.
Sounds to me like it's time for a road trip! :yay:
Sport Rider
02-13-2017, 04:26 PM
Pics!
here's the latest, but the brake rotors don't fit the calipers. both supposedly came from mid 80s GL1200. calipers may well be from an 1100 instead of 1200 though.
the new bearings are in and the axle fits the fork tubes great. once I get the brake alignment figured out, I'll be ready to test-fit on the C10.
cheesy
02-13-2017, 08:41 PM
How do keep everything from falling over?:hehe:
Sport Rider
02-14-2017, 10:11 AM
How do keep everything from falling over?:hehe:
you know we live in an upside down world! :D
Sport Rider
02-14-2017, 10:25 PM
check this out!
cheesy
02-15-2017, 07:21 AM
:tup:
cheesy
02-25-2017, 03:04 PM
Getting somewhere.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-02-25%2013.06.06_zpsgcu4qzkw.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-02-25%2013.06.06_zpsgcu4qzkw.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-02-25%2013.10.22_zpsmca9g0gs.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-02-25%2013.10.22_zpsmca9g0gs.jpg.html)
The straps on the u-bolts need to be beefier but, save for paint, that's all that's left to do.
cheesy
03-04-2017, 12:21 PM
Receiver is done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-03-04%2009.30.08_zps591j3ghg.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-03-04%2009.30.08_zps591j3ghg.jpg.html)
cheesy
03-16-2017, 09:15 PM
If yer into baseball type time killer statistics, longest ride to date with a minimum of stops. 100 miles with a gas stop plus a three minute stop to pick up a craigslist buy.
I kinda went out of my way to get two gallons of Yamalube 20w-50 Synthetic for twenty bucks.:tup:
minimac
03-17-2017, 09:23 AM
Good score on the Yamalube-and a better excuse to ride!
Sport Rider
03-17-2017, 09:44 AM
only 100 miles? dude....it's time for an adventure!!! :tup:
cheesy
03-17-2017, 11:58 AM
only 100 miles? dude....it's time for an adventure!!! :tup:
Oh, I dunno. 100 miles. Temp never hit 35. Prairie winds. Enough for mid March.
BlackBike
03-17-2017, 10:03 PM
Love the hitch
Next up add the grill
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIZnGbzPJcVTtA5BTtLIV43tPCewhSk dmfKPHEyP_szZR_lYIquA
For those saausaages
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ahFya9H06rA/hqdefault.jpg
cheesy
03-18-2017, 12:02 PM
We call them there sausages 'bratwurst', or brats, in this neck of the woods. Cooked in beer or burned to a crisp on the grill. Yum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratwurst
cheesy
03-19-2017, 08:00 PM
Woof!
For grins, I swapped out the 132.5 High speed jets for 137.5.:tup: 72 mph per my GPS and cylinder head temp never exceeded 370F. Was still pulling but I ran out of unpatrolled road and had to throttle down before hitting town. Good thing, too. Local cops were doing radar today.
Aaaannnddd...I passed a Prius.:hehe:
Sport Rider
03-19-2017, 08:28 PM
keep pushing it. next you know you will be passing a minivan!
cheesy
04-02-2017, 02:40 PM
Tonneau cover off the sidecar and windshield back on. It is officially spring.
BlackBike
04-02-2017, 11:08 PM
Tonneau cover off the sidecar and windshield back on. It is officially spring.
Pics, or spring is a a pipedream
cheesy
04-04-2017, 06:11 AM
Pics, or spring is a a pipedream
I'd believe you today, just because of the horizontal rain and crummy temps where I'm at but I expect I will be mowing the grass when I get back home.
katoranger
04-04-2017, 09:16 AM
I am already mowing. Mowed a customer yard last night. She has dogs. Had to clean my boots.
BlackBike
04-04-2017, 11:39 PM
I am already mowing. Mowed a customer yard last night. She has dogs. Had to clean my boots.
After mowing semi commercially for 25 years I have decided this will be my last year. Saving what's left of my shoulder (weedeater shoulder) for my full time occupation. :hi:
katoranger
04-05-2017, 10:06 AM
I have two yards besides mine. The dog yard takes 20 minutes from start to finish and I usually schedule it when I have another reason to go to town. The other one is only 3 miles away and take me about an hour.
Both are done on an as needed basis.
BlackBike
04-05-2017, 10:43 AM
I have two yards besides mine. The dog yard takes 20 minutes from start to finish and I usually schedule it when I have another reason to go to town. The other one is only 3 miles away and take me about an hour.
Both are done on an as needed basis.
I have a church and 2 others in corpus christi , last of a whole string of accounts I had over the years (these were the last of the ones that didn't bitch:lmao:) takes me about 5 hrs along with drive time. But ready to say good bye. Used to say it was grocery money but I get plenty of groceries now (too much):hehe:
Ready to turn the page...
cheesy
04-09-2017, 05:55 PM
keep pushing it. next you know you will be passing a minivan!
Passed that minivan today, with Mrs. C in the sidecar. Passed another Prius, too. Annndddd, wait for it, a Vette.
Okay, so the idiot Vette pilot was doing forty in the left lane of a fifty zone. Beat up Corollas were passing this guy on the right and flipping him off. On this stretch of Randall Road, you better be doing sixty in the right lane or get off.
katoranger
04-10-2017, 09:15 AM
Scared a guy in a Prius the other day. He was going 50 in a 65 zone. I stomped on the 5.3 and he hugged his steering wheel.:ohno:
Sport Rider
04-11-2017, 01:09 AM
Passed that minivan today, with Mrs. C in the sidecar. Passed another Prius, too. Annndddd, wait for it, a Vette.
Okay, so the idiot Vette pilot was doing forty in the left lane of a fifty zone. Beat up Corollas were passing this guy on the right and flipping him off. On this stretch of Randall Road, you better be doing sixty in the right lane or get off.
my first thought was that the vette was parked. :D:D:D
cheesy
04-11-2017, 08:11 AM
my first thought was that the vette was parked. :D:D:D
:lmao:
Darkrider
04-11-2017, 10:37 AM
my first thought was that the vette was parked. :D:D:D
Maybe at idle at best?
Save
cheesy
04-16-2017, 08:17 PM
Had the whole Fam Damily over for Easter and the Ural got a heck of a workout. Riders from my four year old grandson to my eighty three year old mother in law. Even got my adopted Ukrainian born niece to ride.
Oldest grandkid came from Maine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-04-16%2009.31.47_zpsmtddrniv.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-04-16%2009.31.47_zpsmtddrniv.jpg.html)
Youngest grandkids just sat in the tub and mugged for the camera.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-04-16%2014.58.58_zps6w2qtypb.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-04-16%2014.58.58_zps6w2qtypb.jpg.html)
Youngest granddaughter thinks the foot well makes a great hiding place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-04-16%2015.04.04_zpsfz23krtn.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-04-16%2015.04.04_zpsfz23krtn.jpg.html)
Passenger helmets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-04-16%2015.34.38_zpsrtpvjao2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-04-16%2015.34.38_zpsrtpvjao2.jpg.html)
I piloted for about sixty miles but feel like it was well over a hundred. I'm absolutely spent.
Weldangrind
04-17-2017, 12:49 PM
Your grandkids are adorable!
cheesy
04-19-2017, 10:03 AM
Your grandkids are adorable!
Thanks, Weld. I'll keep 'em.
cheesy
04-29-2017, 10:57 PM
Hmmm, what's this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/9c1555e3-4b6b-4912-8d62-d2ab0f8c262b_zpssnnt3m2p.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/9c1555e3-4b6b-4912-8d62-d2ab0f8c262b_zpssnnt3m2p.jpg.html)
The stamps are nice. And look, it's from Ukraine.
It's a motorcycle model kit of Granddad!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-04-29%2020.27.09_zpsig5k6so4.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-04-29%2020.27.09_zpsig5k6so4.jpg.html)
Can't be too hard, it's one whole sprue.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-04-29%2020.27.24_zpsoaioqkk5.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-04-29%2020.27.24_zpsoaioqkk5.jpg.html)
But wait, there's more. Hidden in the kit is was a Ukrainian One Hryvnia note, worth not quite four US cents.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/405d1c80-3dd9-499d-85fa-4903c99eb397_zpsi19kmnb9.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/405d1c80-3dd9-499d-85fa-4903c99eb397_zpsi19kmnb9.jpg.html)
Something to do when I'm bored.
Sport Rider
04-30-2017, 08:13 PM
somebody did a LOT of licking! :lmao::lmao::lmao:
cheesy
04-30-2017, 08:23 PM
somebody did a LOT of licking! :lmao::lmao::lmao:
No kidding.:wtf:
BlackBike
05-02-2017, 11:57 AM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/motorcycles/a26092/ural-sidecar/?src=nl&mag=pop&list=nl_pnl_news&date=050217
http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/17/18/980x490/landscape-1493671945-ural1.jpg
Sport Rider
05-02-2017, 02:51 PM
nice article, and they are right. a ural gets lots of attention anywhere you stop!
cheesy
05-03-2017, 08:20 PM
nice article, and they are right. a ural gets lots of attention anywhere you stop!
Tis true. Can't tell you how many times I've been told what a great 'restoration' I've done. You can hear the thud of jaws dropping when I tell them it's only ten years old.
cheesy
05-14-2017, 09:19 PM
Latest upgrade from Outhouse Engineering and Fabrication, where our slogan is "Measure Once And Hope For The Best".
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-05-13%2007.41.59_zpsh5roomtr.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-05-13%2007.41.59_zpsh5roomtr.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-05-13%2008.28.34_zpsyh9moyve.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-05-13%2008.28.34_zpsyh9moyve.jpg.html)
Total outlay was zero cents. Had the sheet metal. The muffler clamps and LEDs were left over from projects at work and my boss just told me to make them "Go Away".
Found out the that the tub is electrically insulated from the bike. So, 60 minutes to install and wire. 90 minutes to troubleshoot.
Those extra speedholes in the sheetmetal? Yeah, see the slogan for OE&F.
cheesy
05-28-2017, 10:39 AM
Got the radio installed in the sidecar yesterday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-05-28%2009.13.53_zpsgbj6dt5n.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-05-28%2009.13.53_zpsgbj6dt5n.jpg.html)
Yeah, I know, the install isn't symmetric. Had to go with what worked. First impression is a resounding 'MEH'. It has a loose wire antenna instead of mast and the steel tub shields a lot of signal. The antenna is hardwired into the radio instead of plugged in. If I can figure out how to do it, I'll solder in a plug and lead, then run a mast.
The radio is FM only, has a 24 hr clock, and will accept an mp3 player such as an ipod. There are 18 presets available and it has auto search. The problem with the presets is that the instructions are lacking on how to do it. I will need to have one of the grandkids program it if I can't figure it out.
Now to the important part, sound and volume. On the local stations I can pickup due to the antenna, they come in crystal clear and the volume will drown out a Harley with straight pipes.
If it doesn't work out on the sidecar, It will end up on the CX.
Sport Rider
05-28-2017, 12:33 PM
I like the additions. what brand is the radio? I have a shark on my nomad. I really like the sound but it lacks the search capability. it does have the mp3 and SD card slots though.
on my new sidecar I'm just going to have a power plug. my girlfriend uses her ipod and earphones, so just keeping her phone powered is sufficient. I'm likely going to do the same on the bike. my headset has bluetooth to connect to the phone, so can use something like i-heart radio to listed all the time.
cheesy
05-28-2017, 05:41 PM
It's a DANHUACHEN from Amazon, $29.99 with shipping. Lacks the sd slot but I barely even use my ipod, so it's not a big deal.
cheesy
05-31-2017, 06:26 AM
Anndd, the radio will be coming out. Can't hear it over 25mph and Mrs. C already managed to knock one speaker loose. Guess I'll mount it on the Deere.
Sport Rider
05-31-2017, 10:56 AM
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
get a set of sena s10's. bluetooth to a phone....music all you want! :)
cheesy
05-31-2017, 05:10 PM
:lmao::lmao::lmao:
get a set of sena s10's. bluetooth to a phone....music all you want! :)
I kilt my Blinc III that had an FM tuner, then effed up the helmet trying to get it out to fix it. Nice unit, lousy customer support. Looking at the Sena SMH5-FM-UNIV when it's time to replace my non effed up helmet(s).
I don't store music on my phone (employers phone) and my ipod only has old radio shows on it, so the s10 wouldn't work all that well for me.
Weldangrind
06-01-2017, 12:53 AM
Anndd, the radio will be coming out. Can't hear it over 25mph and Mrs. C already managed to knock one speaker loose. Guess I'll mount it on the Deere.
Perhaps Outhouse Engineering and Fabrication will have more luck with the Deere.
cheesy
06-01-2017, 06:02 AM
Perhaps Outhouse Engineering and Fabrication will have more luck with the Deere.
And I probably won't have to stand on my head to do it.
cheesy
06-06-2017, 08:55 AM
Stopped by the local Ural dealer yesterday to pick up some spare cables I ordered. The dealer also sells ALL Japanese brands and while waiting for my turn at the parts counter, I wandered around. Go fast sport bikes do nothing for me so I avoided them and looked at the dual sport and standards. This caught my eye.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/RV200/2017/RV200.aspx
Neat little bike. Maybe if the Honda and the Solexes find new homes...
Sport Rider
06-06-2017, 11:14 AM
$4600? my question would be...why.
cheesy
06-06-2017, 01:17 PM
I did say(thought, thinked, thunked, typed) "Maybe".;)
Weldangrind
06-06-2017, 01:31 PM
I like those very much. In fact, there's a China bike based on them, powered by a CG motor. It's Suzuki's answer to the TW200.
Barnone
06-06-2017, 05:40 PM
Just passed 18k kms.
cheesy
06-06-2017, 10:09 PM
Just kicked over 29K kms on mine, though I'm only responsible for 5K of them.
cheesy
06-10-2017, 08:41 PM
Installed the new cylinder head temp gauge today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-06-10%2009.35.20_zpso3rivbiz.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-06-10%2009.35.20_zpso3rivbiz.jpg.html)
It works.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-06-10%2014.01.33_zpshmvmfyuj.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-06-10%2014.01.33_zpshmvmfyuj.jpg.html)
Install was pretty straight forward and took about two hours. Part of that time was looking for the tool that was 'just in my hand'.:grr:
Azhule
06-10-2017, 11:52 PM
Part of that time was looking for the tool that was 'just in my hand'.:grr:
I also had that going on today :lmao: I'm just glad it didn't happen when I had the soldering station out fixing wires
Weldangrind
06-11-2017, 02:40 PM
What I don't understand is when I just had a tool in my hand, and I never find it again. It's as if it fell off the planet.
cheesy
06-11-2017, 09:03 PM
What I don't understand is when I just had a tool in my hand, and I never find it again. It's as if it fell off the planet.
Oh, you'll find it again. Only you'll find it after you've bought the replacement.
cheesy
06-16-2017, 10:38 PM
Replaced the funky Russian lock on the gas tank tool box with a real key lock. Now I can open it with just one twist of the wrist instead of twenty.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bikamper/2017-06-16%2020.27.42_zpsvabkxpov.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bikamper/media/2017-06-16%2020.27.42_zpsvabkxpov.jpg.html)
Weldangrind
06-17-2017, 12:55 PM
Good idea. Save that wrist for twisting the throttle.
cheesy
06-17-2017, 08:05 PM
Good idea. Save that wrist for twisting the throttle.
'zakly.
cheesy
06-23-2017, 11:23 PM
So, back in the "What did you buy" thread, I mentioned that I bought this.
https://www.banggood.com/12000RMP-Motorcycle-LCD-Digital-Odometer-Speedometer-Tachometer-F1-2-4-Cylinders-p-987881.html?rmmds=search
I plan to get going on installing it next Friday because Mrs. C and I are hooking the camper to the Jeep and going camping for a few days. I won't be touching a cell phone or computer while we're gone.
Anywho, most of the install looks to be fairly straight forward, despite the contradictory instructions. One big issue I see is that the unit will be installed into a headlight nacelle and that makes the trip reset button inaccessible, but there may be an Outhouse Engineering and Fabrication solution to that problem. At least something is rolling around in my head.
One other issue looks to be the tachometer hook up, mostly due to the poorly written instructions. Is the pickup wrapped around the spark plug wire or attached to the 12v side of the coil?
Thoughts?
Weldangrind
06-24-2017, 02:19 PM
Tough to say what "positive rigger line of the igniter" means. It also says "please buy cautious."
I would try wrapping around a plug wire, since I presume it to be inductive. Please let us know what works for you.
cheesy
06-24-2017, 07:04 PM
Tough to say what "positive rigger line of the igniter" means. It also says "please buy cautious."
I would try wrapping around a plug wire, since I presume it to be inductive. Please let us know what works for you.
First try, anyway.
cheesy
06-24-2017, 07:28 PM
Outhouse Engineering and Fabrication has hit upon using a low power pusher solenoid and a momentary switch to activate the reset button. It works in my head, anyway. And Amazon got fifteen bucks for me to try it.
BlackBike
06-24-2017, 09:48 PM
Outhouse Engineering and Fabrication has hit upon using a low power pusher solenoid and a momentary switch to activate the reset button. It works in my head, anyway. And Amazon got fifteen bucks for me to try it.
This i gotta see!
I have trouble with "the button" but manage to finger it. Wait, what are we talking about?::wtf:
cheesy
06-30-2017, 09:46 PM
The speedo works on my bench, so that's something.:clap:
Have entered the tire circumference after about 5 minutes of figuring out how to do it. Waiting on the solenoid, switch, and male 2.5mm crimp terminals from Amazon, which are supposed to be here Sunday.
Will be using the speedos turn signals, hi beam, and neutral lights. I can tap into all those right at the idiot lights on the nacelle. The running lights will be tapped into the fog lights on the sidecar.
:hmm:Still need to figure out how to stop the fuel gauge from flashing. Grounding is supposed to work but I haven't had any luck doing it at my power supply. Might work differently once on the bike.
Still need to fab a mounting yoke to secure both the solenoid and speedo in place but need the solenoid in my paws before I can do that.
cheesy
07-02-2017, 07:18 AM
Well, failure is a grand teacher. The solenoid setup works in theory but not the one I bought. Too weak to push the button. Hell, too weak to lift itself. On to the education pile with this one.
Soooo, I sprung for a beefier solenoid from MCM Electronics. This one will need a different mounting setup that may require both the plasma cutter and welder. Yay!
BlackBike
07-03-2017, 05:57 AM
Well, failure is a grand teacher. The solenoid setup works in theory but not the one I bought. Too weak to push the button. Hell, too weak to lift itself. On to the education pile with this one.
Soooo, I sprung for a beefier solenoid from MCM Electronics. This one will need a different mounting setup that may require both the plasma cutter and welder. Yay!
Crap...
I didn't find the solution to my flashing fuel gauge either.
cheesy
07-03-2017, 10:25 PM
One road block after another on this speedo project but this has more to do with what connectors and terminals I have on hand to work with. Either one short in one style or I have enough female plugs and but I need males or I have every size but the ones I need.
But, in true chinarider fashion, I made my own male spade terminals by squashing flat a couple of different sizes of wire ferrules, depending on whether I was using a single or two wires per terminal. So, the harnesses are done. Finally.
Just had to knock off early cuz the damn squitos have started to find me tasty.:D
humanbeing
07-04-2017, 12:27 AM
Still need to figure out how to stop the fuel gauge from flashing...
Fed a Dummy load (Typical chinese 100Ω's valve: http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17413) fools it...
cheesy
07-04-2017, 08:19 AM
Fed a Dummy load (Typical chinese 100Ω's valve: http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17413) fools it...
Thanks, hb. I did try that on the bench using various resistors, both grounded and powered. Also tried pots to get spot on. No soap. Either nothing changed or the entire unit would flash with the low voltage indicator coming on. I am fast approaching judicial use of black tape to cover the fuel gauge.
Thought about opening the case to remove the button on the back and the just soldering leads to connect to the dash mounted button. That case ain't opening. It's really glued tight.
BlackBike
07-04-2017, 10:17 AM
Thanks, hb. I did try that on the bench using various resistors, both grounded and powered. Also tried pots to get spot on. No soap. Either nothing changed or the entire unit would flash with the low voltage indicator coming on. I am fast approaching judicial use of black tape to cover the fuel gauge.
Thought about opening the case to remove the button on the back and the just soldering leads to connect to the dash mounted button. That case ain't opening. It's really glued tight.
Worse yet, that button is probably soldered to a board too:shrug:
cheesy
07-04-2017, 06:49 PM
Worse yet, that button is probably soldered to a board too:shrug:
That doesn't bother me much. If worse comes to worse, I can open up the hole on the back where the switch is and just solder leads to the board mounted switch and run them to the remote switch.
Stuff did happen today.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4265/34914198973_0b55ee50bb.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VcfoXP)
First headache was that the OD of new speedo is 88.5mm. The ID of the hole was 85.5mm.:wtf: Started opening the hole with a Dremel and stone. After about ten minutes of this, and knocking off a whole .25mm, I glanced up and saw my air compressor. And then a light went on and I said to myself, "Self, are you an idiot, or what? There is a drawer in the big tool box with air tools. I bet if you look, there is a die grinder with a real stone in there. Jackass.":ohno:
So, five minutes later, the speedo dropped in place. I also figured out that the big rubber ring on the Ural speedo wasn't for looks, but to lift the speedo high enough to clear a crossbar running through the nacelle. So, I needed to do some OE&F on that, too.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4015/35554897702_118a6b6265.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WaS9nC)
Then I called it a day. CX500 for the next week or so. Will see if I can still ride it.
BlackBike
07-04-2017, 09:49 PM
That's where the dremmel will come in for the back of the case to extract the button. I used to scoff at the dremmel tool till my uncle raved so much about it that I broke down many years ago and got a set. I just used it to cut out a damaged bearing race on a rotary torso machine the other day, mighty handy indeed.
Looking good!
cheesy
07-05-2017, 09:33 PM
Nothing done today. Long, hard, and hot day at work.:zzz:
cheesy
07-06-2017, 10:16 PM
Did some wiring today. Powers up; hi beam and neutral lights work. No luck wrapping the tach signal wire around the plug wire. Supposed to be cooler tomorrow and it's Friday. Maybe wrap things up late tomorrow night.
BlackBike
07-06-2017, 10:40 PM
On my 250cc the tacho wire connected to the blue and white stripe wire between the mag stator and the cdi
I know Yours is probably different.
cheesy
07-06-2017, 11:22 PM
On my 250cc the tacho wire connected to the blue and white stripe wire between the mag stator and the cdi
I know Yours is probably different.
Probably, it's a Ducati Hall Effect system. But, it bears looking into.
Weldangrind
07-07-2017, 11:28 AM
I found a Google reference to it on the CURD forum, but couldn't find the actual thread. Perhaps you'd care to sign up there so you can search the topic. BTW, it was a link from Soviet Steeds.
humanbeing
07-07-2017, 12:33 PM
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=536139476392 had good tips.
Basics in that url =
Rpm signal can gotten from multiple locations. Find the least inference 1 by ur self (or shielded that wire)
1. the electronic rpm gauge line (some model had this, the signal is best)
2. IGN coil in (If don't had 1 recommend connects to here)
3. CDI's out
4. CDI's IN
5. Trigger's out
6. ECU's out...
cheesy
07-07-2017, 05:26 PM
Thanks guys.
I registered for the CURD forum, Weld. Thank Ja for wikipedia if one isn't Canadian. Needed to know the name of the bridge to PEI to get registered and I didn't even remember one being there the last time I was to Cape Breton. (my kids were 10 and 6, now 38 and 34)
HB-1, 3, 4, 5, and 6 don't exist on the Ural, so #2 it is.
cheesy
07-07-2017, 10:41 PM
Success.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4103/34947682444_38d2aaa2c5.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Vfd1r3)
There was a blue wire and a white wire at the coil, so I had 50% chance of getting it right the first time. I tried the blue one and found that the white one was the one I needed. This was still easier than getting the right turn signal hooked up. Ural seems to have their own color codes that change between harnesses, which slows things down a bit.
Still haven't dealt with the speedo pickup but that should be a piece of cake(famous last words)
BlackBike
07-08-2017, 12:49 AM
A little aluminum and a bench vice worked nicely
humanbeing
07-08-2017, 09:17 AM
...This was still easier than getting the right turn signal hooked up. Ural seems to have their own color codes that change between harnesses, which slows things down a bit...
Old sckool or modern bi-color LED circuit tester is good tool;)
http://gd3.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/2204698413/TB20PgEuHRkpuFjSspmXXc.9XXa_!!2204698413.jpg_400x4 00.jpg
cheesy
07-08-2017, 05:19 PM
Old sckool or modern bi-color LED circuit tester is good tool;)
http://gd3.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/2204698413/TB20PgEuHRkpuFjSspmXXc.9XXa_!!2204698413.jpg_400x4 00.jpg
So is a multi meter.;)
The wire color thing was aggravating. Orange at right front signal, light blue at the rear and neither of those colors were in the headlight bucket. Used my Beta MM with the sooper dooper pointy probes and found the white/red wire from the turn signal switch that was the one I needed. On the other side of the plug, the wire was gray/green. Not a lot of room in the rats nest to work, plus I gotta worry missing the wire with the probe and impaling my finger.
Gave up on finding a solenoid to press the reset button. Resorted to cutting part of the back off the speedo to access the switch and soldered leads and the remote button to it. It works. Also added a plug between the remote button and the speedo so I don't have to swear at myself when I put the speedo back in.
Just waiting for the JB Weld to set.
Sport Rider
07-08-2017, 11:36 PM
Ya know....I haven't had to do a darn thing to my rig since I got it all put together. :p:p:p
cheesy
07-09-2017, 06:29 AM
Ya know....I haven't had to do a darn thing to my rig since I got it all put together. :p:p:p
Ah, but putting it together did cause some headaches. That's why my CX is so boring now. Just gas up and go.
With some luck, I should wrap this up today.
Sport Rider
07-09-2017, 09:34 AM
Ah, but putting it together did cause some headaches. That's why my CX is so boring now. Just gas up and go.
With some luck, I should wrap this up today.
you just can't resist having something else to do. :tup:
Weldangrind
07-09-2017, 01:39 PM
Not every Canadian would know the name of Confederation Bridge. When I drove the 8 miles across it, I noticed that there were only two lanes and no pull-outs for trouble. After I made it across, I noticed that I was running on fumes.
It's free to drive across to PEI, but they charge you to leave the island. I suspect that's their plan to increase the population.
Sport Rider
07-09-2017, 03:42 PM
Not every Canadian would know the name of Confederation Bridge. When I drove the 8 miles across it, I noticed that there were only two lanes and no pull-outs for trouble. After I made it across, I noticed that I was running on fumes.
It's free to drive across to PEI, but they charge you to leave the island. I suspect that's their plan to increase the population.
that way they don't tick off visitors on the way in, which means people on the island don't have to listen to the grumbling. once they are on the way out....who cares! :hi:
BlackBike
07-09-2017, 06:36 PM
Not sure of the segway on this subject but , hey, I'm in. Confederation Bridge
https://goo.gl/maps/gyTZr7Bky5s
http://www.cbj.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Confederation_Bridge_835712518.jpg
cheesy
07-09-2017, 07:59 PM
Finished up today. Finally.
The rats' nest. And the surgery I performed for the reset button.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4256/35437745650_8246c18f43.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VZvH9E)
The pickup bracket and one of the two magnets.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4264/35826027305_7e5d9c1554.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WzPKKX)
It took Superman and his kid to separate those two little buggers, yet they barely stuck to the rotor hub. I ended up drilling a 10mm recess in the heads of a pair of M8 bolts for the magnets to sit in. They ain't going nowhere now.
I just rode down to the gas station and back to check the calibration and it is pretty good. I gassed up, zeroed the trip odo, and rode back home. It's one half mile from the gas pump to my garage door and that's what I got. I'll check it against my GPS later this week.
The mess in the garage was epic.
Sport Rider
07-09-2017, 09:38 PM
epic garage messes seem to be common. I made an epic mess just installing a pair of holeshots on my C10 today!
cheesy
07-10-2017, 09:52 PM
Sport Rider is right, I gotta have something else to do.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4214/35807806996_5bf1b9d17b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WydnuG)
One of the original magnet bolts I made is on the bottom, One of the new ones I made on the lathe at the shop on top. Started with a 10mm drill bit and finished with 3/8" end mill. Looks better.
cheesy
07-12-2017, 11:11 AM
Compared the new speedo to the GPS today. Pretty pleased. Up to 45 mph, it's dead nuts on. Above 45, it gets a bit light. Reads 49 and GPS is showing 51. I'll leave it for now.
cheesy
08-07-2017, 09:21 PM
Illinois Railroad Museum Transportation Show yesterday. For once, I wasn't the only sidecar rig. Nice one liter Guzzi sharing my space.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4366/36412066995_e57dc805e6.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XtBmWx)
More pics.
1949 Dodge Rail Inspection Car
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4441/36366983806_b4ce8e033b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XpCihb)
Vee Dub on an S10 chassis.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4348/36366996606_2c226087ba.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XpCn5S)
Best car there IMHO. Mikrus from Poland.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4400/36243927752_234de766db.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XdKB15)
Mikrus steering wheel. Screams Citroen.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4374/36367026336_1068c336e5.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XpCvVs)
Mikrus engine. 2 cylinder 2 stroke that makes almost 15 hp.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4386/36367034386_1cd3656b8a.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XpCyjf)
Even with that tiny engine, the Mikrus can make 90 kph with four passengers. Helps that the little poop only weighs about 800 lbs.
The owner of the Mikrus is friends with the guy I bought the Ural from.
Sport Rider
08-07-2017, 09:44 PM
Nice to see you're cross pollinating the ural. that guzzi's LL front end is identical to mine.
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