Txpowersport review Start to Finish

[MeatGrinder]

Well hello ppl i just put my order in yesterday with this company i bought a hawk 250 and the base model 50 cc scooter for the ol lady. This review will be to share my experience with this company. My order totaled almost 2k only a few bucks short. So will start here 2/23 9 something in the morning put in my order. 2/24 no tracking info yet sent and email asked a few questions about ten minutes ago and will see how long till i get a reply. Im hoping that i can leave a good review and share a positive experience with you all. I chose this dealer on the success moto cheese has had with them. I bought from killer before cant say anything bad about that experience. To be continued.....

[MeatGrinder]

Took about an hour to get a reply the questions were about tracking/shipment day, MCO request info. The email i got back was short and to the point i will ship these monday for you thank you. The rest of my questions went un answered and un acknowledged. So till monday......

[BlackBike]

Took about an hour to get a reply the questions were about tracking/shipment day, MCO request info. The email i got back was short and to the point i will ship these monday for you thank you. The rest of my questions went un answered and un acknowledged. So till monday......

You want answers, you pay 500 Bak more :p

[MeatGrinder]

:lmao:You want answers, you pay 500 Bak more :p:clap:
Isnt that the way she goes lol.

[Azhule]

The rest of your questions will go unheard/unanswered... your warranty problems that occur during your ownership will also be unanswered... you will be called a Liar and a Scammer if the items show up damaged and with missing pieces... any and all broken/missing pieces, you will have to find/pay for a replacement yourself...

"You should have bought Japanese if you want quality"... words taken straight from 'horses mouth' (the owner of TxPowerSports aka "Manny")

I just saved you weeks of phone calls, emails, headaches, and general frustration in dealing with "Manny" and "TxPowerSports"

Best of luck with your China Bike Purchase...

Oh and welcome to the forum... (don't mind me, I like to go around and 'spam' how horrible "Manny" and all his companies are)

[BlackBike]

:lmao::clap:
Isnt that the way she goes lol.

The rest of your questions will go unheard/unanswered... your warranty problems that occur during your ownership will also be unanswered... you will be called a Liar and a Scammer if the items show up damaged and with missing pieces... any and all broken/missing pieces, you will have to find/pay for a replacement yourself...

"You should have bought Japanese if you want quality"... words taken straight from 'horses mouth' (the owner of TxPowerSports aka "Manny")

I just saved you weeks of phone calls, emails, headaches, and general frustration in dealing with "Manny" and "TxPowerSports"

Best of luck with your China Bike Purchase...

Oh and welcome to the forum... (don't mind me, I like to go around and 'spam' how horrible "Manny" and all his companies are)

:lmao:

fingers crossed

[culcune]

The rest of your questions will go unheard/unanswered... your warranty problems that occur during your ownership will also be unanswered... you will be called a Liar and a Scammer if the items show up damaged and with missing pieces... any and all broken/missing pieces, you will have to find/pay for a replacement yourself...

"You should have bought Japanese if you want quality"... words taken straight from 'horses mouth' (the owner of TxPowerSports aka "Manny")

I just saved you weeks of phone calls, emails, headaches, and general frustration in dealing with "Manny" and "TxPowerSports"

Best of luck with your China Bike Purchase...

Oh and welcome to the forum... (don't mind me, I like to go around and 'spam' how horrible "Manny" and all his companies are)

The only thing TXpowersports has got going for them as far as this deal goes is the fact that RPS is located in Dallas-and that the Hawks are drop-shipped directly from RPS. If the scooter is Taotao, then that will most likely be drop-shipped, too, from Dallas.

Your issue, unfortunately, is that Manny boxed you up one of his floor models, and sent that to you. Out of principal from your situation (and the fact that my friend at Excalibur can get me most any Chinese bike ;)) I wouldn't order a bike from TX, but I do think in the general sense, a Hawk is okay to order from them as far as not getting things screwed up (I wouldn't steer people that way).

[MeatGrinder]

Thanks for all the "postive" information jk. Well i look at it this way i have a great bank and if i get something that is not new and complete or have any issues they push a little button and my money comes home. I will be inspecting both the hawk and tao scoot before the truck driver ever leaves so if there is a problem right from the get they will leave and my money will be back in my account in a day or two and ill try again some place else. But i like to look for a positive outcome i am fully capable of fixing anything that could go wrong with either one as long as they both come complete un damaged i should be fine and well if not my bank covers all my online stuff for a year it would be a simple phone call to the dealer and if not fixed the first time the money will just disappear from there account. But hey im going to have a good experience anyways so no biggie i have faith. And with jap bikes take a look at history as to how they became the so called norm they under sold every other manufacturer till surprise there the only ones selling and if your product is the only one ppl have naturally other ppl go hey thats nice think ill get one time goes buy now there the norm with "higher quality" except of the parts on the jap bikes are actually made in china and taiwan surprise again. You can get a bad one from any maker at any time so there is that but i think maintenance and general care goes alot further than a brand name or country of origin in my honest opinion. But yes everyone feel free to share your experiences good and bad and i will keep everyone updated on the day to day of the whole thing.

[culcune]

Sorry, I think we might have gotten a little scary there :lmao: but the bottom line is both Taotao and RPS (Hawk distributor) are headquarted in/near Dallas, and both have a warehouse there, too. I am guessing that both of your bikes are drop-shipped directly from their respective warehouse, unless TX picks them up and bundles them up for combined shipping rates (might make sense). In other words, you are probably getting the real deal, so I wouldn't worry if I was you. Heck, Adam Renkleff, the RPS rep, is a member here and he has solved issues (i.e. MCO/MSO paperwork issues) as well as warranty issues for members, so the Hawk is covered. As far as Taotao, I have not heard much of anything negative from people as far as shipping damages, etc. But, like you said--check the boxes at delivery which should alleviate any and all issues!

[MeatGrinder]

Also thanks for the welcome to the forums lol. Ill list what i have now to mod as soon as the hawk gets here. I have jets for the carb a 17 tooth front sprocket the beautiful cluster from Matt at hawkcluster@gmail.com and im going to delete the air box all together and go with just a simple pod filter since most of my riding will be gravel back roads and paved small town roads i think it will be fine. If i dont like the clone carb i will replace it with a nibbi offroad racing carb that atomizes the fuel almost like fuel injection would. Going to see how the hawk sounds and will decide then if a complete exhaust will be put on or just mod the stock one to increase air flow. Will check out the tires and wheels that come stock and decide if any changes are needed there and if so i will replace them. In the back of my mind im thinking about a pair of early ninja 250 wheels just to throw on if im going to go for any distance on just pavement but i just dont know that i will im kinda put off by the super moto look but admittedly for longer distance driving im sure it would be great compared to knobbys. The old lady says i cant play with her scoot so i had to cancel my plans for a 100cc kit, exhaust, cdi coil and plug, and upgraded carb. She has no m endorsement so prob the best anyways but im hoping by next year she will be ready for one of the grom competitor bikes i think its ssr not sure of hand, but i plan to buy one of those r3 from csc for pavement and the hawk for the country. I live in central illinois so plenty of long gravel roads between corn fields to just cruse and enjoy life as we all should do atleast once on two wheels.

[timcosby]

most of my riding on my hawk has been on the road. i dont even notice the knobbies are on there. they are of a hard compound and are holding up well.

[MeatGrinder]

most of my riding on my hawk has been on the road. i dont even notice the knobbies are on there. they are of a hard compound and are holding up well.

Yea thats what im hoping for atleast get a few thousand miles out of the stock ones.

[timcosby]

ive got about 850 and you cant see any wear at all. i bet they go 5 or 8 thousand.

[MeatGrinder]

ive got about 850 and you cant see any wear at all. i bet they go 5 or 8 thousand.

That would be sweet. So its monday after noon still no tracking info called the 800 number on the site was given an email address to email for tracking information was told everything went out today ups. So will see if i get some info back today as of now tho its day 5 and no shipping. :tdown:

[jsumd]

That would be sweet. So its monday after noon still no tracking info called the 800 number on the site was given an email address to email for tracking information was told everything went out today ups. So will see if i get some info back today as of now tho its day 5 and no shipping. :tdown:

I would be getting very annoyed at this point. I hope you get some tracking info soon! Good luck!

[MeatGrinder]

I would be getting very annoyed at this point. I hope you get some tracking info soon! Good luck!

Lol i feel ya im always annoyed. I do understand that i ordered on a thursday and ppl prob dont work weekends so my order may not have actually been touched till today. Will see tho im hoping for delivery by the end of the week.

[letsride]

Where are you MeatGrinder? And the RPS products and Tao products are shipped out of Atlanta are they not? I thought I read that somewhere. Wait no, Nevermind I think my boys Tao Quad shipped out of Texas somewhere. So in THEORY, "THE MANNY" should be able to get things shipped right away, since he is right there! Take the little dealer I bought my Brozz from for instance. I went down to get my bike, and he got in his truck and went to the Peace Sports warehouse and picked it up THAT DAY and brought it back and put it in my truck. I don't know I may be way off base but I'm just trying to figure out just WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FACK takes so long to ship a dang BOX!! I PROMISE YOU, the story of UPS dropping the ball is IMHO BUUUUUUULL SHAT!!! UPS is the best shipper in this dang country. R&L, OLD DOMINION, SAIA, ABF, ETC are no slouches either. I THINK, its the retailers themselves. There thats just my .02.

[MeatGrinder]

Where are you MeatGrinder? And the RPS products and Tao products are shipped out of Atlanta are they not? I thought I read that somewhere. Wait no, Nevermind I think my boys Tao Quad shipped out of Texas somewhere. So in THEORY, "THE MANNY" should be able to get things shipped right away, since he is right there! Take the little dealer I bought my Brozz from for instance. I went down to get my bike, and he got in his truck and went to the Peace Sports warehouse and picked it up THAT DAY and brought it back and put it in my truck. I don't know I may be way off base but I'm just trying to figure out just WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FACK takes so long to ship a dang BOX!! I PROMISE YOU, the story of UPS dropping the ball is IMHO BUUUUUUULL SHAT!!! UPS is the best shipper in this dang country. R&L, OLD DOMINION, SAIA, ABF, ETC are no slouches either. I THINK, its the retailers themselves. There thats just my .02.
True alot of stuff to consider this being tax season and all could be alot of orders or just plain lazy. They will hear from me in the morning if i dont have trackin info when i get up. My last china bike shipped from texas through ups and was alil slow to but under ten days. and UPS did deliver a day late because they didnt have a drop gate trailer the day of actually delivery but that has been two years through another online vendor. Thanks for the 2 cent.

[MeatGrinder]

So i emailed there sales team and the email they gave me for the owner saying either i have valid tracking showing items recieved by shipper by 12 noon central or i would retract payment and do buisness elsewere. I also informed them that both crates would be opened in front of the delivery personal and if either were not brand new or damaged shippment would be refused and i would report to bbb and my bank there company as a fraud and retract payment. So lets see if that gets the ball rolling. And if they would have not told me it would ship today on friday i wouldnt have sent this. So far txpowersports gets a 0/5 stars lets see if they can fix that.

[MeatGrinder]

Just got an email back simply saying my items have shipped and tracking number will be uploaded later today, will see its already 10 pm faith is fleeting........

[MeatGrinder]

Ok another email things making sense now they said they had to take the hawk to tao tao so they could ship together. Will see what happens.

[MeatGrinder]

Harassed there online chat this morning got a bill of lading out of it but when i called ups they can not verify it. They can say that a shipment did leave yesterday from that business but it could be another 24 hours before it even updates in ups system so i cant say if its real or not. I would assume it is everything looks legit on it so another day without a confirmation of shipping. But i will say who ever i was talking to was polite and trying to help me out even tho i was not being the nicest. But this for sure is not the fastest option.

[jsumd]

*eats popcorn* this is getting good. Lol

Hopefully its actually been sent out.

[MeatGrinder]

Great news ups has no information about my "shipment" was told to call the shipper that proved the information and try to get correct info. And they didnt answer. Called the taotao shipping number they said they are waiting on multi tracking infos for a few orders from im guessing the owner. Called my bank they gave me the number associated with the withdraw from my checking account called it was another "powersports" store told the kid that answered i needed tracking he said email i cut him off said i have since saturday and have been told daily it will be up today next day it will be up today so i told him i was calling for my bank and if both me and my bank dont have valid verifiable tracking information by 8 am tomorrow my bank will start the fraud process and give my money back and ill look for another company to put my order in with. Not impressed oh and the guy i last spoke to told me the man was on vacation. Also noticed on there site for tx power sports they claim a+ BBB rating but bbb says they have a b rating i wonder if that is a crime? Well today im regretting my decisions.

[jsumd]

Ugh, just giving you the runaround. Stick it to them.

[MeatGrinder]

Man i do not like this company. I thought i would call ups one last time and check on the bill of lading txpowersports sent me and wouldnt you know it the hawk and scooter shipped today. So this company lyed to me continuosly about shipped monday. But atleast the toys are no longer in the hands of them. Now i fear for the documentation. So i guess i can call the bank off but keep them at the ready if the mco's and bills of sale are not produced by say end of march.

[jsumd]

Sounds like you put the fear in them today. I would be proactive and put the fear in them early over the documentation.

[MeatGrinder]

Sounds like you put the fear in them today. I would be proactive and put the fear in them early over the documentation.

I truly hate that it has to be that way but sadly it is the only way that produces results. I will be sure to advise them that the papers are actually more valuable then the toys and that the money can disappear just as fast if they try and give me the run around there. But ups says delivery on thursday if that is true that is 7 days from the date of order to delivery which is not bad at all i wonder if i was just being impatient or if ups stellar shipping times are just saving the bit some.

[BlackBike]

I truly hate that it has to be that way but sadly it is the only way that produces results. I will be sure to advise them that the papers are actually more valuable then the toys and that the money can disappear just as fast if they try and give me the run around there. But ups says delivery on thursday if that is true that is 7 days from the date of order to delivery which is not bad at all i wonder if i was just being impatient or if ups stellar shipping times are just saving the bit some.

And they will say it will arrive on such and such day and the next thing, it will show up before you expected it and planned for. No one communicates any more.

[MeatGrinder]

And they will say it will arrive on such and such day and the next thing, it will show up before you expected it and planned for. No one communicates any more.

Ya who knows. But my bank is aware of the situation so im protected there ups is also aware and know that i will be doing an inspection before they leave. And tx ps is now also aware that i have little patience for beating around the bush. Hope the rest of the process is smooth. If i get everything in new condition and my papers arrive in order i cant say its not safe to order from here but just be aware of the lack of communication and misleading information. Seems like they just say whatever to get you to go away and it will ship when it ships and arrive when it arrives. If i was making a living off selling these things id work a bit harder to communicate with my customers and be as forth coming as possible.

[letsride]

WOW! I wouldn't ever order anything from them after reading Azhule's (?) debacle. They sent him a floor model, just strapped to a pallet and it was beat up with a lot of miles on it already. HEY TXPOWERSPORTS, I'm getting ready to order YET ANOTHER BIKE, and this RIGHT HERE is why you won't get my business yet again :)

[MeatGrinder]

WOW! I wouldn't ever order anything from them after reading Azhule's (?) debacle. They sent him a floor model, just strapped to a pallet and it was beat up with a lot of miles on it already. HEY TXPOWERSPORTS, I'm getting ready to order YET ANOTHER BIKE, and this RIGHT HERE is why you won't get my business yet again :)

Yea the floor model thing is messed up but there are legal things that could of been done about that. I mean just call your bank and tell them provide proof and they can open a fraud case for you and get your money back. And i agree i wont be ordering the kids 110 atv from txps. But if my items get here this week in new condition and i get my papers in a week or two and have no further problems i would say a person would be ok with txps just cover your own self make sure your bank offers online purchases protection or atleast a form of recourse if you get screwed without just relying on the dealer to make it right. But if i could do it over i would go with somebody else on simple principle they lied about it shipping monday ups verified the order was picked up at 3 something in the after noon on tuesday if they would not have lied i prob would have already put the order in for the atv.

[timcosby]

ups will call the day befor and give you a time for drop off.

[MeatGrinder]

ups will call the day befor and give you a time for drop off.

I actually have valid tracking info now ups emailed me with a delivery date of 3/2. Ill snap some picks and throw them up on here if i can figure out how to when they come especially if there is any damages.

[Emerikol]

MG, I had very similar experiences with TXPowersports. I'm generally happy now that everything has worked itself out, but for the most part once they have your money you're on your own. And go ahead and forget about any after-sale support from those guys... Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I wouldn't want to steer you wrong from the start. Keep us posted how this ball of yarn unravels.

[MeatGrinder]

MG, I had very similar experiences with TXPowersports. I'm generally happy now that everything has worked itself out, but for the most part once they have your money you're on your own. And go ahead and forget about any after-sale support from those guys... Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I wouldn't want to steer you wrong from the start. Keep us posted how this ball of yarn unravels.

Sure will thanks for the info im not so worried about any after sale stuff minus the documentation. As long as i can find or adapt any part i may need everything should be fine im no stranger to tinkering kind of my hobby that is the reason i didnt go buy a honda crf, well lets be honest the 5g price difference played a roll in the decision as well.

[MeatGrinder]

Well guys i guess ive got the best luck in the d*m world. Ups called this morning set up a delivery date of friday cool was happy thinking finally getting someplace. Not an hour later i get and email from ups saying delivery exception mechanical failure/breakdown. So i called and ask if the semi was in a wreck she said no something about had to stop cause of a tire im guessing a retread spun off or it actually blew a tire so no only am i not knowing when it will come now im worried they are damaged some how. Think im going to have a big drink tonight with dinner and sleep clean through till friday.

[2LZ]

Think im going to have a big drink tonight with dinner......

Why wait till tonight?

[jsumd]

Well guys i guess ive got the best luck in the d*m world. Ups called this morning set up a delivery date of friday cool was happy thinking finally getting someplace. Not an hour later i get and email from ups saying delivery exception mechanical failure/breakdown. So i called and ask if the semi was in a wreck she said no something about had to stop cause of a tire im guessing a retread spun off or it actually blew a tire so no only am i not knowing when it will come now im worried they are damaged some how. Think im going to have a big drink tonight with dinner and sleep clean through till friday.

That is some pretty crappy luck. Hopefully all will be fine when they arrive. I'd have a few big drinks. ha

[Bruce's]

Tire issues can be handled within an hour on the side of the road on a semi ,something fishy when they are worked up about a tire two days before delivery .

[BlackBike]

Meat...I am feeling your pain with a big ol glass of red on the porch ;) while the salmon is smoking

[MeatGrinder]

Im half scared to even type this since it may open the door for more bad luck. My local ups freight hub said the tire was fixed in less than an hour and the truck is near st louis which is 3 hours from me. She was also very nice and helpful and explained what would happen from there. Once it hits st louis my local hub will put in a order for one of there drivers to go get it and bring it to there office/warehouse and once there drop gate gets there friday my things will get thrown on there and heads to my house. Now from past experience with them they could never produce the drop gate trailer and delayed my shippent by 3 days from killer motosports till i finally got on the phone with there dispatch and told them to just put it on a truck and i would pick it up out of there myself. I hope they have there stuff together this time i think the hawk is a bit heavier than the 150 scooter i shouldered off the trailer was.

[letsride]

Lift gate is a luxury. I took the Brozz crate out of my truck with just another pair of hands. Slide it out, sit one end on the ground, then have one guy hold the crate up resting the weight on the end on the ground, then drive the truck out from under it then go help lower the other end to the ground. And no lift gate is not a problem. When R&L delivered my new stand alone package heat pump for my house I simply lowered the tail gate on my truck and backed my pick-up up to the back of the semi trailer. Then slid the crate into the bed of my truck. I then unloaded it in the same manner as the Brozz crate. If they show up without a lift gate DONT LET EM LEAVE GIT YER BIKE. :)

[MeatGrinder]

Lift gate is a luxury. I took the Brozz crate out of my truck with just another pair of hands. Slide it out, sit one end on the ground, then have one guy hold the crate up resting the weight on the end on the ground, then drive the truck out from under it then go help lower the other end to the ground. And no lift gate is not a problem. When R&L delivered my new stand alone package heat pump for my house I simply lowered the tail gate on my truck and backed my pick-up up to the back of the semi trailer. Then slid the crate into the bed of my truck. I then unloaded it in the same manner as the Brozz crate. If they show up without a lift gate DONT LET EM LEAVE GIT YER BIKE. :)

I def will get them off the truck one way or other. Im a big guy and could get them out alone if need be but i would prefer not to getting older and my body lets me know when i do something i prob shouldnt have lol. If i have to ill slide them out on the roof of my lil s10 then to the bed then to the ground but they will come out one way or the other lol that is if they are not damaged. If i have to i can get a skid or a back hoe from my buddy who has a construction company but i doubt it will come to that.

[pistolclass]

I used a backhoe to unload mine from my truck. I was solo so I hooked up the chains and lifted it. Then I pulled the truck forward.

[BlackBike]

Meat, may I suggest you go on and buy a pair of arched ramps for your pickup. You will use them constantly and would come in handy for that rescue mission.
Mine are similar to these. I picked up my bike from southwest motor transport in corpus christi and slid it off the bed with my ramps by myself.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/raider-arched-ramp-set?cm_vc=-10005

[MeatGrinder]

Meat, may I suggest you go on and buy a pair of arched ramps for your pickup. You will use them constantly and would come in handy for that rescue mission.
Mine are similar to these. I picked up my bike from southwest motor transport in corpus christi and slid it off the bed with my ramps by myself.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/raider-arched-ramp-set?cm_vc=-10005

Thats a good idea iv got some 16'x6"x4" treated rafter boards i was thinking would work good we load the 07 honda 400 ex with them and they also loaded my 98 vstar 650 one time too. I may go poke around at rural king tomorrow tho that is tractor supply were im at they prob have something very similar.

[MeatGrinder]

http://www.chinariders.net/picture.php?albumid=173&pictureid=894

Well this may be promising will see friday between 10 and 5


Oh and 900 views thats crazy Txpowersports should take note of the amount of ppl this has reached. Maybe if enuff ppl run a review like this these dealers will get there act together and make the china bike community better by removing the only negative, which is the dealer side of getting and owning a china bike.

[letsride]

Oh, it won't be long and you will see a new member sign on with post count of 1 giving TX power sports a STELLAR review! :lmao:

[jsumd]

Glad to see that you are finally getting somewhere! :tup:

[JerryHawk250]

Meat, may I suggest you go on and buy a pair of arched ramps for your pickup. You will use them constantly and would come in handy for that rescue mission.
Mine are similar to these. I picked up my bike from southwest motor transport in corpus christi and slid it off the bed with my ramps by myself.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/raider-arched-ramp-set?cm_vc=-10005
I use my ramps for my ATV to unload mine by myself out the back of my truck. I used my Coolster 150 ATV to pull it to were I wanted to start assembling.

[Azhule]

Oh and 900 views thats crazy Txpowersports should take note of the amount of ppl this has reached.

Had over 4,500 views on my Honest review on his company... and people are still ordering from that chump "Manny"... I think most of those "900 Views" you have and most of the 4,500+ views I had are probably from "Spider Bots/Google Webpage Caching"...

But... if I did save 4,500+ people from ordering from his business... I would be the happiest clam in the sea :hehe:

4,500 people x $1,300 a bike... that's what... $5,850,000 in sales were lost :hehe: F* you Manny :hehe: should have just sent me the broken and missing parts ya jerk :doh:

[MeatGrinder]

Had over 4,500 views on my Honest review on his company... and people are still ordering from that chump "Manny"... I think most of those "900 Views" you have and most of the 4,500+ views I had are probably from "Spider Bots/Google Webpage Caching"...

But... if I did save 4,500+ people from ordering from his business... I would be the happiest clam in the sea :hehe:

4,500 people x $1,300 a bike... that's what... $5,850,000 in sales were lost :hehe: F* you Manny :hehe: should have just sent me the broken and missing parts ya jerk :doh:

Im sorry about your experience but just for future reference if you open the box in front of the shipper and it is not exactly what you paid for you dont have to sign it dont listen to any bs about restock free return shippment nothing go to your bank tell them its fraud fill out some paperwork and poof your money is now back in your account. These types are used to getting yelled at you just have to tell them in a stern voice yes im smarter than you no i dont need you to give me my money ill take it back from you because you tryed to screw me and yes you can have a nice day:lol:. And honesty is the reason i made my review like i did starting a day after i ordered the bike that way i have a record for myself to look back at with dates of events in cause i ever need to remember something. There is no excuse for them sending you a floor model with stuff broke I just dont know why you had a hard time getting things lined out. Just remember people open your crates while the shipper is there and if you dont like something dont sign for it easiest way to avoid any problems. Refuse damaged return to sender is all you write on there shipping papers. and you call the dealer with one chance to either send you a new one or refund you either or and if they so much as sneeze at the idea of giving you the run around you say no wait its no problem im headed to the bank to file a fraud case. I wouldnt even deal with bbb takes them months to respond just your bank mater of days but as fast as minutes. Dont accept any damn refund from the dealer that is not for the full amount paid that is a buy off you loss your rights after that you cant go tell your bank they frauded you after you got alil money back and something else broke and the dealer tells you to go f yourself. Your warranty is void because you accepted the buy off money maybe they didnt say it that way but it is what it is friend. Id try again with another dealer just stick to your guns dont get played. And never let the dealer feel like they have the final power over your money if you go into a purchase like that you are bound to have a bad time. Ok this is getting long ill be here tomorrow with an honest review myself of how everything looks coming off the truck unboxing and everything including any issues that i may have or me punching out a ups driver for arguing with me when i tell him to take that broke shit back to his shop with him lol. Lets hope that last parts not the case but hey lifes a journey never know what could happen my crates could be filled with immigrants for all i no:lmao::lmao::crazy:

[Azhule]

I and the driver took several dozen pictures... I started before the door even opened :hehe: ... no 'box or crate to open' to prove of damage... if you look at my pics I posted it was already open ;) ... and it was signed for as "DAMAGED Goods" the shipper marked, "Received from seller in said condition" :p

Nothing I could do but pound the sand, try and call/email the jerk who sold it to me and fill out useless 'paperwork' that basically lead to... "You bought a motorcycle/vehicle... we will see what we can do to make things 'right' but you are NOT getting a full refund because it's a motorized vehicle"

PayPal leaned on "Manny" a good bit and I finally got a small refund... but it took several weeks of him yelling at me daily... what a great buying experience :tdown:

Still hoping for the best outcome if you need anything from them in the future :)

[MeatGrinder]

I and the driver took several dozen pictures... I started before the door even opened :hehe: ... no 'box or crate to open' to prove of damage... if you look at my pics I posted it was already open ;) ... and it was signed for as "DAMAGED Goods" the shipper marked, "Received from seller in said condition" :p

Nothing I could do but pound the sand, try and call/email the jerk who sold it to me and fill out useless 'paperwork' that basically lead to... "You bought a motorcycle/vehicle... we will see what we can do to make things 'right' but you are NOT getting a full refund because it's a motorized vehicle"

PayPal leaned on "Manny" a good bit and I finally got a small refund... but it took several weeks of him yelling at me daily... what a great buying experience :tdown:

Still hoping for the best outcome if you need anything from them in the future :)

It is truly sad the way you were treated i just got done reading your whole thread. I would have never took it off the truck but you no what they say about hindsight. Do you still have it is it still running or did you get rid of it. I wont be using them in the future on simple principal of lying about what day it shipped even tho it is only one day off from when it actually shipped a lie is a lie and in business all you have is your word and if your words are lies you will fail, maybe not today but you will fail.

[Azhule]

Took a lot of work, some soldering/re-wiring, but the bike is still running strong 1,900+ miles so far... the plastics still need replaced... but it's still one of the fastest China Bikes to my knowledge (a GPS confirmed 82.6* miles per hour)... and it's only a measly 197cc engine too...

Taken it on several long day rides, basically 4 to 10 hours on the bike kind of rides... doesn't drink any oil... can keep me going 65+ miles per hour all day long if I need it to... currently only weighs 258lbs...

I'd say them shipping me a POS floor model without telling me and the way I ignored until I filed a complaint, then I was yelled at and treated like poo... if they would have said

"Look I have this beat up looking bike, dusty and a little rusty bike with 4.8km on it sitting on my floor I can't seem to get rid of as no one wants a sub 200cc engine... instead of getting one full price direct from 'Roketa', would you be interested in the floor model for this much $$?"

I would have still ended up with the bike and I would have had little issues with the whole thing... but them sending me a bike with cardboard from a random 110cc Quad I never heard of... it was a bit overboard the way they took the front wheel off to make it look like a "factory crated bike being shipped from China"...

* 83 miles per hour displayed on the GPS with several hundred RPMs to spare on my Trail Tech Vapor :p

[MeatGrinder]

Took a lot of work, some soldering/re-wiring, but the bike is still running strong 1,900+ miles so far... the plastics still need replaced... but it's still one of the fastest China Bikes to my knowledge (a GPS confirmed 82.6* miles per hour)... and it's only a measly 197cc engine too...

Taken it on several long day rides, basically 4 to 10 hours on the bike kind of rides... doesn't drink any oil... can keep me going 65+ miles per hour all day long if I need it to... currently only weighs 258lbs...

I'd say them shipping me a POS floor model without telling me and the way I ignored until I filed a complaint, then I was yelled at and treated like poo... if they would have said

"Look I have this beat up looking bike, dusty and a little rusty bike with 4.8km on it sitting on my floor I can't seem to get rid of as no one wants a sub 200cc engine... instead of getting one full price direct from 'Roketa', would you be interested in the floor model for this much $$?"

I would have still ended up with the bike and I would have had little issues with the whole thing... but them sending me a bike with cardboard from a random 110cc Quad I never heard of... it was a bit overboard the way they took the front wheel off to make it look like a "factory crated bike being shipped from China"...

* 83 miles per hour displayed on the GPS with several hundred RPMs to spare on my Trail Tech Vapor :p

Well im glad you have managed to get good use out of it and enjoy the bike itself minus the shit dealer experience i will stand by this the only problem with china bikes is the dealers, as long as a person has some common sense and the ability to and willingness to work on them they are great to have. My old 2015 150cc scoot ran better when i sold it with 15k miles than both my chevys lol an 03 malibu (motor rebuilt last december 2015 135k) and my 00 s10 225k on that work horse. But both quads are honda a 00 300ex and a 07 400ex are straight up bullet proof but my old scoot runs just as good as both all original parts just proactive maintenance. Im hoping the hawk is as reliable but ive yet to hear anything bad from one. One guy is having some trans slippage at 1500 miles but it was his learner bike so im sure either he bent clutch lever on the trans is running non sf oil or just needs some new friction discs. Wouldnt it be great if these china bike warehouses were open to the public, cut out the middle man save even more money on them and not have to deal with rude lying ppl out to scam up some money for themselves.

[josh996]

i ordered a atv from TXpowersports for $549, when i checked my bank acct they had taking $549 out twice, is one of these charges a hold or did i get screwed, all of a sudden there not responding to my emails or anything. any help would be appreciated. thanks

[MeatGrinder]

i ordered a atv from TXpowersports for $549, when i checked my bank acct they had taking $549 out twice, is one of these charges a hold or did i get screwed, all of a sudden there not responding to my emails or anything. any help would be appreciated. thanks

I would call your bank and make sure one of those charges are going to fall off if not let them know you were double charged and your bank will help with that. Im waiting on the ups truck to get here so will see in a little while if i got what i paid for or not.

[josh996]

okay thanks for info i called bank they cant tell yet if it will or not where the just debited it out of my acct, and let me know if you got what you bought plz and thanks.

[MeatGrinder]

okay thanks for info i called bank they cant tell yet if it will or not where the just debited it out of my acct, and let me know if you got what you bought plz and thanks.

So far so good the 50 cc scoot came complete got it together and running Chinese forgot to attach a fuel line lol. The ol lady has already put one heat cycle on it and got bugs in her teeth from smilling. I havent touched the hawk yet did open the package seems undamaged will no if shes all there later tonight when i get her together.

[jsumd]

Awesome!

[MeatGrinder]

Well small problem with the Hawk some battery acid leaked and ruined 3 fasteners but I can't put that on the dealer. Back to work

[MeatGrinder]

Progress the hawk popped and ran for about 10 sec but have to learn whats choke and not choke which way gas is on and off. And prob adjust the idle air mix screw charging the battery and then back to tinkerin once she will start and stay running i will finish putting all the plastics and the lights on.

[jsumd]

Progress the hawk popped and ran for about 10 sec but have to learn whats choke and not choke which way gas is on and off. And prob adjust the idle air mix screw charging the battery and then back to tinkerin once she will start and stay running i will finish putting all the plastics and the lights on.

Pics! Congrats on your new bikes!

[MeatGrinder]

http://www.chinariders.net/picture.php?albumid=173&pictureid=915

[MeatGrinder]

http://www.chinariders.net/picture.php?albumid=173&pictureid=916
If you look at the metal pan on the bottom you can see some corrosion from the battery acid leaking. It didnt get on anything else thankfully just a few bolts

[MeatGrinder]

I got the front wheel on and the aftermarket cluster gauge on the hawk now. Did some adjustments to the carb got her running let her warm up for a bit and shut her down and closed the garage up for the night first thing will be finish up plastics shifter and brakes and get out my check mark pen and start tightening and marking all the fasteners on both bikes and hopefully get some nice pics in the sunlight tomorrow so we can all see her finished up. Also going to have to take a few of the corroded fasteners to ace and replace them from the battery acid.

[MeatGrinder]

Pics! Congrats on your new bikes!

Thank you very much:yay:

[MeatGrinder]

http://www.chinariders.net/picture.php?albumid=173&pictureid=917

[MeatGrinder]

http://www.chinariders.net/picture.php?albumid=173&pictureid=918
sorry bad pic of hawk still crated

[MeatGrinder]

http://www.chinariders.net/picture.php?albumid=173&pictureid=919


And here is the damage from the leaking battery acid. There was enuff left i think to save the batter but if not i have a shop right down the road that can fix it for me. Just hoping ace has some fasteners that match the ones that got corroded.

[jsumd]

That scoot is almost identical to one I had a few years ago! I had a blast on that thing! The hawk's are becoming more appealing to me everyday. Let us know how the first ride goes!

[MeatGrinder]

That scoot is almost identical to one I had a few years ago! I had a blast on that thing! The hawk's are becoming more appealing to me everyday. Let us know how the first ride goes!

My ol lady loves it. Its pretty cool too it has the upgraded gauge so everything is in mph how accurate it is idk But she put it toghether with her gfs help and i joined them by pointing them in the right direction and helping with harder things and i put the tire on for her. That was pretty cool cause she can not only tell ppl how fun it is but also that she built it lol. I rode it and it got right up to 25 with plenty left. Shes real tiny so the thing will fly with her on it. The hawk is pretty sweet it sound pretty good to with the stock exhaust tomorrow when i get her all together ill put a couple miles on her round the neighborhood same with the scoot then change the break in oil out for either honda oil or some other high quality non synthetic.

[MeatGrinder]

So now down to buisness....Txpowersports....
First off they lied to me about the day my order was shipped they told me monday it actually shipped tuesday.
They were helpful when i email but not very talkative i guess, they were very short and not unfriendly but almost i got better things to do than email this prick kinda vibe. But never rude.
The two times i was on the phone with them both ppl addressed me as sir but were very short and just wanted to give me a email address and get off the phone. Again never rude just short.
Keep in mind this is only one persons experience from one order. Also i have not got the MCO or Bill Of Sale for either of these bikes yet.
Once i get the paper work I will edit this or repost it with a score 0-5 on the topics of shipping time, customer support, and a final all around score of my personal experience.
To be honest the only thing hurting my experience is the simple lie about shipping day if they would have been straight forward about it i really dont think id have anything to complain about.
I no other people have bad experiences and have there opinion of the company because of that and that is fair this is just my personal experience as a first time customer.
Now would i order again, well lets see the paper work and ill hit that topic.
So ima let this lye until my paperwork is done and for now just be happy with the fact I Got What I Paid For And I Got It In 8 Days including weekend and the day i ordered and received.

[letsride]

SWEET! I'm glad you got your bike and in reasonably great shape!!

[MeatGrinder]

So the Hawk is complete......first ride one mile rear tube pop......so now I get to pull it all the way off and look for debri inside the tire or a bur to try n fix the problem before I put a new tube in. And I'm not even going to wait around for the dealer to send one I'll just go pick one up. Anybody know what the tube size is off hand. Im also searching tubless conversions

[jsumd]

Dang! Hope you get it sorted fast

[MeatGrinder]

Dang! Hope you get it sorted fast

Yea its sad but honestly i assume the tubes areabout equal to bike tire tubes its at my local honda shop getting a heavy duty tube put in it i just hope they get it done before they close today or else ill be waiting till monday. Little stuff like this is not even trying to get something out of the dealer for just faster and alot less head ache to fix it and move on with life lol. Now if in less than a years time the motor drops out or transmission issues then ill deal with the dealer on that but just not worth my time to even bother and honestly that goes for all dealers on everything ive ever bought lol.

[jsumd]

I don't blame you there. I wouldn't want to wait around on dealer for a tube. The shop I take my rebel to changes out the tube when I get new tires and they always put some sort of tape (not sure what it actually is) on the inside of the rim to keep the spoke heads from rubbing the tube. He showed me what my first tube looked like without the taping and it was almost worn through in a couple places.

[MeatGrinder]

I don't blame you there. I wouldn't want to wait around on dealer for a tube. The shop I take my rebel to changes out the tube when I get new tires and they always put some sort of tape (not sure what it actually is) on the inside of the rim to keep the spoke heads from rubbing the tube. He showed me what my first tube looked like without the taping and it was almost worn through in a couple places.

Yea well looks like im waiting till monday to get my tire back to continue my break in ride on the hawk but did some laps on the scoot and it died on me the vacuum line that runs from the intake to the little generic fuel valve was smashed between the bottom of the seat bucket and one of the mounting points worked fine when the ol lady rode it but when im on it im big enuff to close the air flow off and that stopped the fuel flow. It was funny the ol lady was like dont break my new scooter and i came pushing it back the look on her face priceless. But i simply routed the line where it should have been to start with and that fixed the prob right up. Heard from txps today they had me email the vin of the scoot so they could send mco i looked and couldnt find a vin for the hawk tho i found a frame id and motor id but neither of them look like vin numbers.

[culcune]

Little stuff like this is not even trying to get something out of the dealer for just faster and alot less head ache to fix it and move on with life lol. Now if in less than a years time the motor drops out or transmission issues then ill deal with the dealer on that but just not worth my time to even bother and honestly that goes for all dealers on everything ive ever bought lol.

That is my complaint with both dealers and independent repair places. I swear, they are geared for off-road enthusiasts! In other words, they are meant for people who ride every few weeks or months--you drop off your quad, and they will have it fixed in 'a week or two.'

[MeatGrinder]

That is my complaint with both dealers and independent repair places. I swear, they are geared for off-road enthusiasts! In other words, they are meant for people who ride every few weeks or months--you drop off your quad, and they will have it fixed in 'a week or two.'

Yea it prob would take them even longer if i would have taken the whole bike up there but to save some time and labor fees i just took the wheel up there ill be bugging them in the morning bright and early to pick it up so i can finish my little test ride. Im hoping my paperwork comes in this week so i can get them on the road. Called my insurance company today they found the scoot with the vin no prob but i guess i have to wait for the dealer to send me the vin and mco for the hawk before i can get it insured. But 18 bucks a month for full coverage with towing and 0 deductible on the scoot with new bike replacement and i over insured the value of it alittle claimed it at a thousand and retail was 6 something.

[MeatGrinder]

If your frame ID number has 17 digits with stars at both ends that is the VIN number. Its also on the box the bike came in.

Nice ill have to go out to the garage and write it down and see if thats it.

[MeatGrinder]

Nice ill have to go out to the garage and write it down and see if thats it.

Yup seems the frame id would be my vin thanks for that information!!

[MeatGrinder]

Well tire fixed and back on shop said couldnt find a reason tube popped he said looked like a manufacturing defect at the base of the valve stem. Just got her put back on there have not rode yet got them both insured 44 a month full coverage. Called txps today they said my papers left end of last week should see them soon. We shall see.

[MeatGrinder]

Kinda of salty today got both bill of sale and mco for the scooter but not for the hawk. I wonder why that is maybe they mailed them in different envelopes.

[2LZ]

Well tire fixed and back on shop said couldnt find a reason tube popped he said looked like a manufacturing defect at the base of the valve stem.

I put Kenda Tuff Tubes in anything I replace. The majority of these stock China tubes are made by Trojan.....but condoms are thicker and tougher. Blowing a tube is not surprising.

[MeatGrinder]

Kinda of salty today got both bill of sale and mco for the scooter but not for the hawk. I wonder why that is maybe they mailed them in different envelopes.

Well the scoot is now legal just waiting for documents for the hawk.

[jsumd]

Kinda of salty today got both bill of sale and mco for the scooter but not for the hawk. I wonder why that is maybe they mailed them in different envelopes.

I would imagine they probably did mail them separately just as a precaution.

[jsumd]

I put Kenda Tuff Tubes in anything I replace. The majority of these stock China tubes are made by Trojan.....but condoms are thicker and tougher. Blowing a tube is not surprising.

I almost spit out my beer haha

[MeatGrinder]

I put Kenda Tuff Tubes in anything I replace. The majority of these stock China tubes are made by Trojan.....but condoms are thicker and tougher. Blowing a tube is not surprising.

I was liking the original tubes to walmart sacks but knock off condoms would be more accurate lol and comical.

[MeatGrinder]

Another beautiful day outside and another day passes without my paperwork for my hawk.

[jsumd]

Hopefully you get it in today. Its the worst when its nice out and you can't ride for one reason or another.

[MeatGrinder]

Hopefully you get it in today. Its the worst when its nice out and you can't ride for one reason or another.

Well today was the nicest day here for prob the rest of the month with all of next week in the 30ds and guess what still no papers for the hawk. It would be my luck. My opinion of this dealer just keeps dropping everyday that passes by.>:(>:(

[jsumd]

Well today was the nicest day here for prob the rest of the month with all of next week in the 30ds and guess what still no papers for the hawk. It would be my luck. My opinion of this dealer just keeps dropping everyday that passes by.>:(>:(

I don't understand how it can be taking so long even if they did send them out separate. I would probably try and contact them again.

[MeatGrinder]

I don't understand how it can be taking so long even if they did send them out separate. I would probably try and contact them again.

Yea i have and i get a generic reply. I just contacted the BBB and submitted a complaint. If my papers are not here tomorrow im going to have my bank back charge the 1329. Maybe that will get there ass in gear. But on a positive note the ol lady is enjoying her scooter. Ive rode the hawk round the block a few times but i was ready to put some miles on it today but no go there.

[MeatGrinder]

Here is the last two emails i got from them

Hi I know we have mailed it please send me your vin no just in case so I can mail it again thanks

Hi I am not sure why they did not mailed it the same time as they did the taotao mco but I will it this one for you I am sorry about this.

And that is copy paste exactly how they said it.

[culcune]

Contact Adam Renkleff at RPS (he is also a member here). He participated in a thread just yesterday; RPS is where the Hawk's MCO comes from. Call RPS directly and see if you can get hold of him, or someone there

www.therps.net

[MeatGrinder]

Contact Adam Renkleff at RPS (he is also a member here). He participated in a thread just yesterday; RPS is where the Hawk's MCO comes from. Call RPS directly and see if you can get hold of him, or someone there

www.therps.net

Thanks i sent them an email.

[MeatGrinder]

Well i got them to email a bill of sale with that i went and got a 7 day tag only problem with that is i missed all the damn nice weather today smh.

[MeatGrinder]

Well just got a email from the BBB txpowersports said they mailed my papers yesterday so maybe they will finally show up.

[jsumd]

I wonder how often they have to deal with the BBB while processing orders. Sad way for a company to do business.

[MeatGrinder]

I wonder how often they have to deal with the BBB while processing orders. Sad way for a company to do business.

Yes it is

[MeatGrinder]

Got an email with some tracking numbers for usps but they dont work yet so i guess the bit about my papers mailing yesterday was a lie cause if that were the case the tracking numbers would be good. Other than the fact my bikes showed up in pretty good shape i would avoid any further dealings with txpowersports myself.

[jsumd]

any luck on those papers yet, meatgrinder?

[MeatGrinder]

any luck on those papers yet, meatgrinder?

Finally got them today ill be at the dmv in the morning getting her titled and plated.

[jsumd]

Awesome! let us know how that first ride goes!

[Bmw_m4]

Guys avoid the headaches and order from Venom Motorsports (www.venommotorsportscanada.com)

You will get your bike in the best condition, with the best quality and customer service. They make their own bikes

Oh and the titles come with the bikes lol so you dont have to wait for anything. Got mine and registered it the same day!

Start to end their experience is the best

[MeatGrinder]

Well i think its time i give my final rating of txpowersports. Processing time they get 1/5 stars shipping time 3/5 stars products condition they get 4/5 stars customer support 0/5 stars.

Overall i give them 2/5 stars. This company has dishonest people that will lie to you about dates things happen. There is a lack of communication inside the company. There website needs help. My bikes are both in great shape but that is more on the manufacture and shipping company than the dealer. There employees were never rude but were short and not helpful. Find a better more customer oriented business to give your money to. And if your looking at a hawk pull the trigger boys you will be happy you did just buy from a better company if you care about people being honest with you and educated.

[jsumd]

Well i think its time i give my final rating of txpowersports. Processing time they get 1/5 stars shipping time 3/5 stars products condition they get 4/5 stars customer support 0/5 stars.

Overall i give them 2/5 stars. This company has dishonest people that will lie to you about dates things happen. There is a lack of communication inside the company. There website needs help. My bikes are both in great shape but that is more on the manufacture and shipping company than the dealer. There employees were never rude but were short and not helpful. Find a better more customer oriented business to give your money to. And if your looking at a hawk pull the trigger boys you will be happy you did just buy from a better company if you care about people being honest with you and educated.

Even though I haven't gotten my bike from powersportsmax I have a feeling it will be a very similar review. Glad you got your bikes in one piece and are now enjoying them! :)

[MeatGrinder]

Even though I haven't gotten my bike from powersportsmax I have a feeling it will be a very similar review. Glad you got your bikes in one piece and are now enjoying them! :)

Well i have 70 miles on the hawk now and she is great changing the front sprocket gives the bike a much needed taller first and final gear. Once i get through the first tank of gas the carb is coming off and getting a makeover. She is great while riding but cant seem to find a constant idle im guessing that is and air fuel mix problem. 8000 rpm seems to be red line but i think i can get a bit more out of her with some jets since i have yet to hit a rev limiter. Ive hit a top speed of 59 with a strong head wind after the sprocket change. Break in oil is out screen cleaned no metal in the oil only a very small piece of clutch material. Only issue is horn keeps coming un plugged the wires seem a bit short. The tao tao scooter got taken out yesterday with the ol lady on it she hit 45 miles an hour with more to give which is crazy for a 50cc scooter imo but she is like 5 4 and 150 pounds. The scooter has around 30 some miles now and today break in oil is coming out and im also changing gear oil in it. Both bikes will get fluids done at around 125 miles then again at 300 after that 300 mile intervals. This friday im going to haul them both to my local state park and make a day of running around out there and cooking some burgers going to be 68 and sunny.

[JeremyC]

I'm new here (well, I've been lurking for a while) and just pulled the trigger on a Hawk from TxMS... hopefully mine shows up in good shape and I don't have the hassles you went through, Meatgrinder. Had I noticed this thread before now, I probably would have looked for another dealer, but I'll wait and see what happens. What area of IL are you from? S.E. IL here. :p

[david3921]

Guys avoid the headaches and order from Venom Motorsports (www.venommotorsportscanada.com)

You will get your bike in the best condition, with the best quality and customer service. They make their own bikes

Oh and the titles come with the bikes lol so you dont have to wait for anything. Got mine and registered it the same day!

Start to end their experience is the bestThey don't sell any of the biker bikes that most are looking for.

[MeatGrinder]

I'm new here (well, I've been lurking for a while) and just pulled the trigger on a Hawk from TxMS... hopefully mine shows up in good shape and I don't have the hassles you went through, Meatgrinder. Had I noticed this thread before now, I probably would have looked for another dealer, but I'll wait and see what happens. What area of IL are you from? S.E. IL here. :p

In up in central illinois panther pride if you no what i mean update on the hawk. 250ish miles not a lick of problems been in the wood ripping and wheeling and on the streets ive topped her out at 60 with the 17 tooth front sprocket bought to pick up a back sprocket so i can run a bit faster a lower rpms. So far a really fun bike but alittle slow but hey its only a 223 and gets around just fine. Hope you have a good deal on your order.

[dpl096]

Nice to see another Hellinois inmate around here!



In up in central illinois panther pride if you no what i mean update on the hawk. 250ish miles not a lick of problems been in the wood ripping and wheeling and on the streets ive topped her out at 60 with the 17 tooth front sprocket bought to pick up a back sprocket so i can run a bit faster a lower rpms. So far a really fun bike but alittle slow but hey its only a 223 and gets around just fine. Hope you have a good deal on your order.