Americanlifan.com

[americanlifan]

Hello all... I am actually re-doing the site so that it can be a
little more infomative for everyone but in order to add a little more
flare I was wanting to put a few picutres up of lifan bike owners with
their bikes.

So if anyone would like to be on the main page and would allow me to
use your photos I would greatly appreciate it. The photos may be re-
sized but they will not be cropped. You would get complete credit for
your photos. I know there are MANY pictures in the photo section but
we are not t-motorsports.

I am also open to suggestions on the site as far as site features and
sections so if you get a chance feel free to email me.

Shawn
shawn@americanlifan.com

[AZ200cc]

Wow, It's great to see a person from AL on the site....Welcome. :D

[americanlifan]

Sorry it has been a long time since ive been on the forum... trying to get this company going in the right direction is taking a lot of work with the way the market is right now.

If anyones needs anything please feel free to email me at shawn@americanlifan.com or if you need any type of tech help email David Moore at support@americanlifan.com.

Once again any pictures would be appreciated... ;)

[katoranger]

Shawn, you are welcome to any of my pictures. I think I have one of me with the bike. Of course it is not the latest model.

Some modifications have been made also.
http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/34835/2005299595895264351_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005299595895264351)
http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/35307/2005249275497311703_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005249275497311703)

Thanks for you help and I am waiting for a larger dual sport.

Allen

[Jim]

Hah, Shawn I like that "we are not tmotorsports", one of the other grey ebay dealers ripped off my pictures...

My bike is Canadian (since I'm in Canada) and not technicaly an american lifan, but it looks the same and not a grey ebay one. You are welcome to any of my pictures if you want (gallery link on the www button under my post here), some riding in the snow and just all sorts of them, it's been around...

[ambassador]

Hey, I bought my bike from T-motorsports and have had NO problems, By all means read through my posts... I have plenty of pics, just because it's rebadged i'm sure it came out of the same plant/factory, TRUTH is my grey market bike seems to be of better quality than the 06 American Lifan GY-5's, I've seen them both side by side... Either way Shawn, you are welcome to my pics and glad to have you aboard, welcome...

[Jim]

Ambassador I wasn't trying to say there was anything wrong with the tms bikes, in fact due to the cost difference here in Canada if I were to buy again I would buy online... I just agree about the business practices (not sure about tms, but others do rip off images).

[americanlifan]

katoranger: nice mods! Where did you get them from? We have 2 larger dual sports on the way...

Jim: Ive seen T-motorsports steal more than pictures. Its just sad how people can screw over people so bad. Good new though is that the T-motorsports owner is MIA.. maybe this is a good sign. Oh and we welcome everyone.... even Canadians ;)

Ambassador: T-motorsports continue to include parts on their bikes that are known to be deffective. The 06' American Lifan GY-5 had problems, i'll admit that, but us minding our P's & Q's we fixed all of the defects. The American Lifan 07' model is near flawless and almost as good as you are going to get out of a 200cc enduro.... now we are focusing on bigger CC Models.


We are mainly looking for pictures with the owners on/with their bikes... if you could email these to me Ill get them up on the site... when emailing please include your name/city/state so that I can give you full credit.


Thanks a bunch guys!

[culcune]

Shawn, I have seen your postings on the LF200GY site, but haven't seen them there or here for a while. It is nice to see the one manufacturer of Chinese bikes that seems poised to go really big participating at a grass roots level.

[AZ200cc]

So exactly what sizes of DS are in the works??? Now I am curious.

[americanlifan]

culcune: I try to be as helpful as I can... hoping the view on "all chinese" bikes" will change as soon as it can.

AZ200cc: With our dual sport models they have a water-cooled 250cc ready. An Air-cooled 300cc prototype is ready to come over for epa testing. A water-cooled 450cc is in R&D as we speak.(this could take a year or more)

[AZ200cc]

Wow very cool, Glad to hear about the 250 and 300...If You need someone to test em out just lemme know :D :lol:

[SamM]

This is good to hear!

[culcune]

culcune: I try to be as helpful as I can... hoping the view on "all chinese" bikes" will change as soon as it can.

AZ200cc: With our dual sport models they have a water-cooled 250cc ready. An Air-cooled 300cc prototype is ready to come over for epa testing. A water-cooled 450cc is in R&D as we speak.(this could take a year or more)

Do these have anything to do with the Asiawing company? I know that in China, several "separate" companies are affiliated with each other in some way or another. For instance, if you dig around Shineray's site, in a message from the CEO, he states something about working in cooperation with Lifan. Asiawing has EPA certified 250 and 300cc enduros on their site, and shows a 450cc for the future, yet hardly few are in the US, and no one seems to import them. Now, Lifan is (finally) introducing these same displacement models.

Not that I am criticizing Lifan, I was just wondering if this was why we haven't seen Asiawings here, in spite of their EPA certificate; Asiawing is an offshoot brand of Lifan?

[americanlifan]

culcune: "American Lifan" is the only US company with EPA certs on ANY Lifan machine.... Including t-motorsports. China Lifan does not hold these.

[katoranger]

Shawn the 300cc aircoolled sounds like a winner to me.

Less to break.

The 450 might be the ticket though. Enough power to highway ride.

Another thing these bikes need are larger fuel tanks and a higher output stator for more lighting and abilty to power heated gear. The stator might be an optional thing.

My mods are mostly parts from other bikes are things found at walmart. I have a dr350 tank awaiting fitment for more capacity.

Allen

[ChiGongJitsu]

the 450 sounds awesome to me!

[katoranger]

Here is what I would like to see.

400cc with e-start. 6-speed transmission. 520 chain.
Stock USFS approved exhuast.
Better rear suspension.
Higher output stator.
Optional windscreen.
Aluminum wheels.
Better seat.
4-5 gallon tank.

Of course this all cost more money, but would make for a much better around ride.

There has to more, but that is the big things I think could be improved on.

Allen

[pumpkin]

Allen,

i agree 100%. even if they did all of that stuff on a 350cc i think it would be ok. my 200cc was/is a great starter bike whitch is what i bought it for. now i am wanting something more, but can't afford a big 4 jap bike. so i'll have to make due for now. after reading this thread i now have hope.

[Phil_R]

Hey Shawn,

Added a couple Owner/Bike pictures to my gallery:
DSCN0084 (http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=6951) / DSCN0058 (http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=6949)
You are welcome to use them if you wish.

[americanlifan]

Katoranger - the 450 Would cost MUCH more since watercooled machines are so expensive to produce for our factory right now. Ill suggest those changes to our technical department. We actually have an aproved exaust that used to come over stamped and ready but they quit using the for some reason ... I need to find out why.

ChiGongJitsu - I would love that also!

Pumpkin - Who did you get your first starter bike from? We have a wonderful dealer up in Wheeling...

Phil_R - I really appreciate the pictures... Ill post a link once everything is up and running...

[katoranger]

I think the 300cc aircooled has some promise and still be on the cheap end.

It also keeps the maintenance costs down along with less to break or damage on the trail.

Allen

[SamM]

I hope it comes with a 6-speed!

SamM

[katoranger]

I hope it comes with a 6-speed!

SamM


I won't buy one unless it is a 6 speed.

Allen

[knothead]

Actually build a bike just like my '07 GY-5, but improve the brakes (no more squeaks please!), widen the seat and make it 600/650cc's and I'd buy one. Leave it a simple OHV, air cooled engine, 5 speed it fine with the right gearing.. price it right and you'd be stealing people from the DR/KLR crowd.
I've let several people ride my bike, it's always a hit but I think the size keeps more experienced riders away.

[ChiGongJitsu]

the air cooled bikes would definitely be easier for us "wrenches" who own these types of bikes...

i second the 600/650cc suggestion, but i'm sure i'd consider buying any enduro bike that american lifan puts out that is over 200cc.

[katoranger]

A 600cc is great until you want to take it on tight trails. I think a 300-400cc fits my needs better while giving me enough to take it on the road alittle.

I think that AL needs to market to the smaller bike crowd yet. Less competition in the under 450 dual sport market and that is also the people looking for a less expensive ride.

Allen

[americanlifan]

http://www.americanlifan.com/300GY-8.jpg

LF300GY-8 Prototype picture...

[knothead]

http://www.americanlifan.com/300GY-8.jpg

LF300GY-8 Prototype picture...

Ack! You're such a tease!
Nice concept. A 'tard to boot. That's heading in the right direction (just needs to be bigger! :) )
Heck, build an adventure bike on the LF-400 v-twin, sorta' like the V-Strom, but more dirt oriented with the 21" front and a decent suspension. (Think KTM without the $$$.) Seems like that style of bike is getting popular, I wonder how a low buck entry would fare in the market.

[katoranger]

How is the website coming?

Is there an approximate release date for the LF300? I will need to start planning.

Allen

[americanlifan]

Its coming along... I still need a ton of customer pictures though. We are just now getting the engine to EPA so it will be a little bit.

[katoranger]

Sounds good, I will need at least a year before I can purchase another bike.

Allen

[ChiGongJitsu]

http://www.americanlifan.com/300GY-8.jpg

LF300GY-8 Prototype picture...

I'll probably be ready for street riding by the time this is available, so it looks like i found my first street bike! :lol:

[ChiGongJitsu]

i just realized however, that the front fender looks like a big orange nose...

[CrazyCarl]

Yeah that's the BMW skewer the pedestrian styling for ya.

CC

[chris5150]

what are we talking on price on the air cooled 300cc?

i am very interested but i need to know a ball park price.
if not i may concider getting a used big 4 bike. but if i can
wait and get a lifan at a good price i will.

[Jim]

that picture looks like the 200 gy5a

[MATT]

I can't wait to see something in a bigger displacement. I would have to agree that keep it simple with a air cooled motor. I think that 400 cc's would fit the bill nicely for most everyone on this forum. Simple an able to reach 85mph would be such a lovely thing. Oh one more request the gy-6 underframe, and while i'm dreaming lets up the ante on the electrical system.