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JerryHawk250
10-21-2017, 05:02 PM
I always wanted to fabricate a center stand since I got my Hawk but could never really figure out how I would attach it so just put it on the back burner until today. I was check the bike over today and was planning to take a ride, then it hit me. :doh: Why not attach it to the skid plate. I had enough tubing and angle laying around so I got busy and this is what I came up with. I even managed to get a 30 mile ride in before the rain started

pete
10-21-2017, 05:38 PM
Well done.... pretty dam kool..



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JerryHawk250
10-21-2017, 05:46 PM
Thanks Pete. Maybe I should fabricate a few and sell. You get a skid plate and center stand all in one.

BlackBike
10-21-2017, 07:09 PM
Looks plenty beefy but not out of proportion


http://tappetyclick.com/sites/default/files/sites/default/files/media/images/approved-design.jpg

Forward to production Bureau

fishman10
10-21-2017, 09:59 PM
I can't see. Your downtube to see if it s the same as my bashan storm. But if they are I would be interested in a skid plate!!

Musictrek
10-22-2017, 01:13 AM
I always wanted to fabricate a center stand since I got my Hawk but could never really figure out how I would attach it so just put it on the back burner until today. I was check the bike over today and was planning to take a ride, then it hit me. :doh: Why not attach it to the skid plate. I had enough tubing and angle laying around so I got busy and this is what I came up with. I even managed to get a 30 mile ride in before the rain started
That would be good for changing a flat!

JerryHawk250
10-22-2017, 07:44 AM
That would be good for changing a flat! that's the main reason I wanted it for and for lubing the chain.

Kdburtch
10-22-2017, 08:09 AM
Great work, I would love one of these. My FZ6 had a centerstand and it was very useful.

JerryHawk250
10-23-2017, 08:55 AM
If I do decide to build a few of these to sell there will be some changes. I'll make the bottom portion of the skid plate about 3" longer to except the brackets for the center stand. You will noticed I had to re-drill the holes about 1 1/2" further to the rear to put more weight towards the front. I'll need to shorten the legs about an inch. I have about 4" of clearance under the rear tire. To really determine if I make them is what would you be willing to pay for one? The Skid plate is quick and easy. The center stand has some time involved. 2nd one should go quicker. I haven't found anything out there that will just bolt on as far as center stands go.

wamey
10-23-2017, 09:05 AM
If you do build some more I'll buy one! Looks awesome!

wchill-hawkrider
10-23-2017, 01:07 PM
Nice work! Great improvement to the bike....

JerryHawk250
10-23-2017, 02:02 PM
Nice work! Great improvement to the bike....
Thanks.

Megadan
10-23-2017, 02:36 PM
Add me to the list of "yes, please" if you decide to build a few. I would be more than happy to prepay to cover the costs of materials and what-not.

JerryHawk250
10-23-2017, 02:49 PM
Well it looks like I need to get busy. I'll start working on a revised set up. Make a few changes in the way I attach the skid plate to the bike. The original skid plate was built without any intentions of mounting the center stand. But now that I know it will work I can work on a final design that is well thought out for easy install. But my question is how much would you be willing to pay for it considering the cost of a skid plate and the cost of a center stand? I would really like to start off with a aluminum skid plate to get the weight down. But surprisingly the steel plate and stand doesn't have a lot of weigh to it. Legs are made out of 3/4" rigid conduit. Skid plate is 1/8" steel.

Megadan
10-23-2017, 03:57 PM
Asking me the price, and my first thought is 10 bucks... but I think that of everything lol. Realistically, I would say at least 100 bucks, and even that is likely short changing you. I know the amount of time that goes into making these kinds of things. I would say figure out your material cost and if you have a rough idea of how long they would take to make, figure out some sort of labor price.

Me, personally, I am fine with steel. The aluminum would be expensive, and a couple pounds of extra weight wont make much of a difference. Plus the steel will take and deflect a hit better, with less damage.

The only design change I would make would be a pair of rods with locking pins so the stand can be easily removed or installed for servicing needs. But, I could make that myself cheaply and easily, so I wouldn't even worry about it.

JerryHawk250
10-23-2017, 04:20 PM
Right now I have a single 5/8" bolt with a double nut on the end holding the stand on. I was planning on using 5/8" smooth bar with either a washer and cotter pins on each end or like you suggested some kind of locking pin.

I have an older brother that was a welder for over 40 years and took a forced early retirement due to some disabilities and that this would be a perfect little project for him to keep him busy. Believe me his welding skills are far better than mine. I'm going to get with him after I redesign it and see if he would be interested in building some. I put a 50+ hours in a 5 day work week and like my me time on weekends. I would rather him do it and make the money to help him out.

JeremyC
10-23-2017, 05:29 PM
I'm on the fence on the center stand, but I sure would like to have a skid plate.

silva
10-23-2017, 07:14 PM
I would buy one

Megadan
10-23-2017, 07:43 PM
Right now I have a single 5/8" bolt with a double nut on the end holding the stand on. I was planning on using 5/8" smooth bar with either a washer and cotter pins on each end or like you suggested some kind of locking pin.

I have an older brother that was a welder for over 40 years and took a forced early retirement due to some disabilities and that this would be a perfect little project for him to keep him busy. Believe me his welding skills are far better than mine. I'm going to get with him after I redesign it and see if he would be interested in building some. I put a 50+ hours in a 5 day work week and like my me time on weekends. I would rather him do it and make the money to help him out.

Well i say talk to him after you work out the design and he might be able to help figure out pricing. Once the design is hammered out it wouldnt be hard to make patterns and simple jig to help save time putting them together, and that would definitely help keep the labor down, especially if they are made in a batch. I would be happy with a bare steel finished product. That would also keep time down. I can do cleanup, prep, and coating on my own.

elevatorman
10-23-2017, 11:57 PM
i want to buy one if you move ahead

JerryHawk250
10-24-2017, 08:59 AM
I can't see. Your downtube to see if it s the same as my bashan storm. But if they are I would be interested in a skid plate!! The storm has the counterbalance engine so the downtube will be more vertical. The skid plate for the TT250 may fit the storm. You have to verify the dimension with someone with TT250.
http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/TT250-Aluminum-Skid-Plate-p/csc-1109.htm

Ichrisbot
10-24-2017, 02:25 PM
Great idea.

My hawk was too low for the harbor freight motorcycle stand (the kind that you raise up with a pedal), and too low and heavy to get up onto a dirt bike stand easily, especially since the rear brake sticks out the bottom of the bike. This would have made changing the rear wheel and swingarm stuff a piece of cake.

Ichrisbot
10-24-2017, 02:28 PM
The storm has the counterbalance engine so the downtube will be more vertical. The skid plate for the TT250 may fit the storm. You have to verify the dimension with someone with TT250.
http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/TT250-Aluminum-Skid-Plate-p/csc-1109.htm


I can confirm the skid plate from CSC fits the hawk, no modifications necessary I just powder coated mine:
https://i.imgur.com/jeFyadml.jpg

dh
10-24-2017, 08:17 PM
Great idea.

My hawk was too low for the harbor freight motorcycle stand (the kind that you raise up with a pedal), and too low and heavy to get up onto a dirt bike stand easily, especially since the rear brake sticks out the bottom of the bike. This would have made changing the rear wheel and swingarm stuff a piece of cake.

Qlink/SSR XF bikes are also to low for the HF dirtbike lift to slide underneath. If I lean it onto the kick stand and get one tire off the ground I slide it underneath, but then what's the point if I have to do that? I returned mine since it just couldn't lift the bike.

JerryHawk250
11-07-2017, 05:33 PM
Just an update. Working for a large construction company has its benefits. One of the steel fabricator contractors is working up a price on the skid plates. He has a computerized water jet cutter. Basically all I need to do is provide him with the CAD drawing and it can cut it out from there. It will also not be so plain Jane as it will have a few holes and slots in it just to help with ventilation and weight reduction. He can make all the cuts and make the bends for me then all I will need to fabricate is the center stand.(He's working on a price for that too but that will probably drive the cost up because its time consuming ) What I will probably do is have the center stand as a bolt on option to the skid plate. depending on the cost I will probably start with 20 and see how they sell.

JerryHawk250
11-08-2017, 03:10 PM
I'm still waiting on quote, but to give you an idea of what the skid plate will look like.
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pete
11-08-2017, 03:28 PM
Looks good....
If you bolt the centre stand to the plate then you
could make the plate in alloy..


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JerryHawk250
11-08-2017, 03:38 PM
Looks good....
If you bolt the centre stand to the plate then you
could make the plate in alloy..


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I'm getting it price steel and aluminum. My plans is to do a bolt-on center stand with mounting holes and have it were it can be adjusted forward or backwards to balance the center load due to not every bike will have the same weight front and rear because of add-on like paniers.

pete
11-08-2017, 05:25 PM
if you bought a cheap chinese plasma cutter you couls make a under size cutting
patten.. clamp it to the alloy or steel run the plasma around it....
could cut the holes / slots ..


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JerryHawk250
11-08-2017, 05:29 PM
if you bought a cheap chinese plasma cutter you couls make a under size cutting
patten.. clamp it to the alloy or steel run the plasma around it....
could cut the holes / slots ..


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The water jet cutter is automated and will make a super clean cut. It will cut exactly what I have drawn including all the mounting holes once I do a mock up to get the exact locations. Once I have a completed set of plans it will be a matter of how many and what material at the push of a button.

Megadan
11-08-2017, 07:07 PM
I await with baited breath. If you want a prepayment to cover any costs of getting them done just let me know. I have 100 set aside at the moment.

JerryHawk250
11-08-2017, 07:45 PM
I'll keep you updated. What cool about the water jet cutting I can do custom designed cut outs. Like an actual Hawk or the words HAWK 250. Pretty much anything I can draw up on Autocad.

goat67
11-09-2017, 07:39 AM
I'll keep you updated. What cool about the water jet cutting I can do custom designed cut outs. Like an actual Hawk or the words HAWK 250. Pretty much anything I can draw up on Autocad.

I would prefer one without the Hawk branding

JerryHawk250
11-09-2017, 07:40 AM
I would prefer one without the Hawk branding

How about GOAT? lol

goat67
11-10-2017, 06:47 AM
How about GOAT? lol

Yea or better yet GTO but that is another conversation.
Maye CB 250 for China Bike :lmao:

JerryHawk250
11-10-2017, 08:20 AM
Yea or better yet GTO but that is another conversation.
Maye CB 250 for China Bike :lmao: That can be done. :tup:I've been playing phone tag with this guy for days. If I don't get anything back from him today I have another guy that can do it.

kirbo7106
11-10-2017, 10:47 AM
Hey JerryHawk250!

I was originally planning on buying an aluminum skid plate from CSC. Their skid plate, no center stand, goes for $130 plus shipping. I would rather buy it from you. I want one made out of aluminum without a center stand. Like MegaDan said, I don’t need a finish coat. Now, if you want to stamp “ Made in the USA” that would be cool!:tup:

Have a great weekend!

JerryHawk250
11-10-2017, 10:52 AM
Hey JerryHawk250!

I was originally planning on buying an aluminum skid plate from CSC. Their skid plate, no center stand, goes for $130 plus shipping. I would rather buy it from you. I want one made out of aluminum without a center stand. Like MegaDan said, I don’t need a finish coat. Now, if you want to stamp “ Made in the USA” that would be cool!:tup:

Have a great weekend! I would think that just the skid plate should be under $100. Now only if I can get an answer on cost. :ohno:

Musictrek
11-10-2017, 01:17 PM
I would think that just the skid plate should be under $100. Now only if I can get an answer on cost. :ohno:
I'm gonna ask Santa Clause for one this Christmas!

JerryHawk250
11-10-2017, 01:38 PM
I'm gonna ask Santa Clause for one this Christmas!
Hopefully I can at least get the skid plates done before then. I just put in a call to somebody else to see what he can cut them out for. If I had the equipment I would do it myself. I want to put out a quality product and keep down the cost as much as possible. The center stand is not a problem for me to do.

pcspecialist
11-11-2017, 03:57 PM
I would prefer one without the Hawk branding

The first thing I did to my Hawk was removed all the branding.

Lit Hawk
11-11-2017, 04:11 PM
How did you remove the red painted hawk letters on the engine?

Musictrek
11-12-2017, 08:04 AM
I'll keep you updated. What cool about the water jet cutting I can do custom designed cut outs. Like an actual Hawk or the words HAWK 250. Pretty much anything I can draw up on Autocad.
I had built a CNC router that would cut 3/4 sold oak in one pass. How about an oak skid plate? Anyway, I worked with Turbo Cad and exported the dxf to G code which the router software used to follow the xyz coordinates to cut the wood.

JerryHawk250
11-12-2017, 08:20 AM
I had built a CNC router that would cut 3/4 sold oak in one pass. How about an oak skid plate? Anyway, I worked with Turbo Cad and exported the dxf to G code which the router software used to follow the xyz coordinates to cut the wood.
I was thinking maybe black walnut. :hehe: Years ago I had one customer that I was using Autodesk Inventer for drawing up some automated machines for. The guy is an inventor. I had to keep quiet on the projects until he got it patent.

kirbo7106
11-13-2017, 10:13 AM
Any updates on the skid plate? Inquiring Hawk Owners want to know!:)

JerryHawk250
11-13-2017, 10:20 AM
Any updates on the skid plate? Inquiring Hawk Owners want to know!:) I talked and sent plans and picture to one of the other fabricators we work with on Friday. He was on his way out of town on a hunting trip but said he will work on it today. I'll give him a call this afternoon to see what the cost will be. He seemed very interested in working on it.

JerryHawk250
11-13-2017, 05:32 PM
Just got off the phone with the fabricator. He will have a price for me in the morning for steel and aluminum.

To be continued.......

Musictrek
11-13-2017, 10:11 PM
I was thinking maybe black walnut. :hehe: Years ago I had one customer that I was using Autodesk Inventer for drawing up some automated machines for. The guy is an inventor. I had to keep quiet on the projects until he got it patent.

The black walnut might cost more than the Hawk.:lmao:

JerryHawk250
11-14-2017, 10:27 AM
Okay, I got pricing back. It looks like I'll be able to do the 1/8" steel for about $95 and 1/8" aluminum for about $110. I'm getting him to make one out of steel to do a mock up for mounting holes and for center stand mounting. He is going to work up a price on the stand too. As soon as I get that I'll post that cost. For those who are interested please PM me so I will know approx. how many I'll need him to produce for the 1st batch.

JerryHawk250
11-16-2017, 09:55 AM
The fabricator should be dropping off the 1st steel skid today or tomorrow so I can do mock up for mounting holes over the weekend. Should have a price on the center stand today. It won't be long before they will be available. Thanksgiving holidays may delay the start of production. I'll post pictures when I get it and after it is installed.

Megadan
11-16-2017, 01:50 PM
My wallet is bursting into flames!

pete
11-16-2017, 05:35 PM
My wallet is bursting into flames!

Dan will take 2.... sound like he's got money to burn...





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Megadan
11-17-2017, 03:04 AM
Not to quote Ringo from Yellow Submarine, but "I've got a hole in me pocket."

JerryHawk250
11-17-2017, 08:01 AM
My wallet is bursting into flames!
I have to go pick up the skid plate at noon. He was going to drop it off but his daughters getting married today so I guess that's a good enough excuse for me . lol

Megadan
11-17-2017, 08:24 AM
I have to go pick up the skid plate at noon. He was going to drop it off but his daughters getting married today so I guess that's a good enough excuse for me . lol

Hey, whenever! I have all the time in the world with this anyway, so don't feel rushed on my account. You get it done when you get it done.

JerryHawk250
11-17-2017, 01:06 PM
Just picked up the skid plate. I'll post pictures of the final product over the weekend.

JerryHawk250
11-17-2017, 02:27 PM
Now the bad news. Well not so bad. I got a quote on fabricating the center stand :wtf:. You don't even want to know how much they want to charge. The same guy that cut and bent the skid plate out sources these kind of small project and had gotten a few quotes for me. They must of thought this was something for NASA for the future space shuttle to Mars. :hehe: So it looks like I'll be doing the fabrication which will take a little longer to get done due to I have a regular job that I work 10-11 hrs. a day. So this will have to be done on weekends. I made the original stand out of materials I had laying around so I'll have to pick up the materials and figure out how much I'll have to sell it for.

pete
11-17-2017, 05:51 PM
the plate came out pretty dam good...
the alloy one will be really nice...


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JerryHawk250
11-17-2017, 05:58 PM
the plate came out pretty dam good...
the alloy one will be really nice...


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Thanks, just have to check the fit and I'm having the aluminum one cut out the beginning of next week.

Megadan
11-17-2017, 06:30 PM
The center stands are more labor intensive, so it's not surprising that the quotes were ridiculous, especially for a small batch basis. Others may have been cheaper per unit, but had a required minium order that bumped the price back up.

Kdburtch
11-18-2017, 11:34 AM
When I had my FZ6 one thing I noticed was the center stand could "rattle" over big bumps. Perhaps adding a "Lock" to keep it up on an off road bike would be a worthy endeavor. Im thinking something as simple as a hitch pin.

Megadan
11-18-2017, 01:32 PM
When I had my FZ6 one thing I noticed was the center stand could "rattle" over big bumps. Perhaps adding a "Lock" to keep it up on an off road bike would be a worthy endeavor. Im thinking something as simple as a hitch pin.

This is something that all center stands will do. They are held up by a spring, and while those springs are usually very strong, even a good sharp bump will make them try to go down.

That is why I am choosing to use Clevis pins with hitch pin clips through the holes as a temporary means to install the center stand for servicing, while also allowing me to easily remove it if I so desire.

That said, if you can work out a way to get some sort of pin under the stand when it is in the up position, I bet that would definitely help at least reduce the movement.

JerryHawk250
11-18-2017, 05:35 PM
Got it all put together today. All I need to do is update the CAD drawing with all the mounting holes and send to the fabricator. I discovered my original center stand is not long enough for the new skid plate. It still gets the tire off the ground but only about an half inch so I made the new one longer. I made one today and will pick up material tomorrow to make a few more tomorrow. The 2nd one went quick so it won't be to bad.

Emerikol
11-18-2017, 06:12 PM
Very Nice! What is the price point looking like for the Skid Plate/Center Stand duo? I really like how the center stand mounting on the skid plate hangs down low enough to protect the rear brake mechanism.

Megadan
11-18-2017, 09:00 PM
My only issue with the overhang of the skid plate is on the right and left side overhang from the frame on he bottom. It's likely going to interfere with my shifter position, and definitely with my very large foot getting under the shifter. Maybe it's just the angle from the picture. I don't think I can make that work without a lot of personal customization/'cutting.

Musictrek
11-18-2017, 09:07 PM
Got it all put together today. All I need to do is update the CAD drawing with all the mounting holes and send to the fabricator. I discovered my original center stand is not long enough for the new skid plate. It still gets the tire off the ground but only about an half inch so I made the new one longer. I made one today and will pick up material tomorrow to make a few more tomorrow. The 2nd one went quick so it won't be to bad.
I think you could design a nice flat plate rack similar to CSC that sells for a few bucks.

JerryHawk250
11-18-2017, 09:44 PM
I My only issue with the overhang of the skid plate is on the right and left side overhang from the frame on he bottom. It's likely going to interfere with my shifter position, and definitely with my very large foot getting under the shifter. Maybe it's just the angle from the picture. I don't think I can make that work without a lot of personal customization/'cutting.
There's plenty of clearance. No problem with it interfering with anything. It's just the angle took the pictures. I read what you said about the pin. What size pin? Im sure i can make it work.

Megadan
11-18-2017, 09:59 PM
I
There's plenty of clearance. No problem with it interfering with anything. It's just the angle took the pictures. I read what you said about the pin. What size pin? Im sure i can make it work.

Not sure on the size. I would have to see it in person to know for sure lol.

What size bolt are you using on the swing arm? My pin idea was to basically replace the bolt with a pair of clevis pins.

JerryHawk250
11-18-2017, 10:00 PM
Not sure on the size. I would have to see it in person to know for sure lol.

What size bolt are you using on the swing arm? My pin idea was to basically replace the bolt with a pair of clevis pins. 5/8" bolt.

Megadan
11-18-2017, 10:09 PM
5/8" bolt.

Well, now that I took a closer look at the center stand design, I would need a long single clevis pin. The longest I know I can find is 6 inches, with an effective length of 5 49/64ths, which is probably too short I would imagine.

Also, my concern with the clearance and my shifter is due to my IMS Shifter sitting much further inboard than the stock one.

JerryHawk250
11-18-2017, 10:33 PM
Well, now that I took a closer look at the center stand design, I would need a long single clevis pin. The longest I know I can find is 6 inches, with an effective length of 5 49/64ths, which is probably too short I would imagine.

Also, my concern with the clearance and my shifter is due to my IMS Shifter sitting much further inboard than the stock one. you shouldn't have any problems with clearance. I'll take pictures tomorrow from those angles

Megadan
11-18-2017, 10:36 PM
you shouldn't have any problems with clearance. I'll take pictures tomorrow from those angles

:tup:

You rock.

JerryHawk250
11-20-2017, 08:06 AM
I know I'm a day late but was laid up with my back out. Needless to say I didn't get a thing done yesterday I did way to much Saturday. >:( I couldn't bend over to take a shot from the side. But as you can see you will have plenty of clearance.

JerryHawk250
11-20-2017, 08:17 AM
This is something that all center stands will do. They are held up by a spring, and while those springs are usually very strong, even a good sharp bump will make them try to go down.

That is why I am choosing to use Clevis pins with hitch pin clips through the holes as a temporary means to install the center stand for servicing, while also allowing me to easily remove it if I so desire.

That said, if you can work out a way to get some sort of pin under the stand when it is in the up position, I bet that would definitely help at least reduce the movement.
I have one spring on it right now but I think I'll put two, one on each side. Believe it or not that is one of the hardest things about this project is to figure out the best place to mount the springs. I'm not happy with the current location and this is something I need to work out before sending any out. I like your idea about installing a pin that an lock it in place.

Ariel Red Hunter
11-20-2017, 12:03 PM
I have one spring on it right now but I think I'll put two, one on each side. Believe it or not that is one of the hardest things about this project is to figure out the best place to mount the springs. I'm not happy with the current location and this is something I need to work out before sending any out. I like your idea about installing a pin that an lock it in place.I have a suggestion on the lock it up problem. A spring loaded hardened steel 3/8's pin that engages a latch plate attached to the frame would do the job. Perhaps there is a frame cross tube the bolt could use, in which case I would use a hard 1/4 inch pin with a piece of re-inforced rubber hose to protect the frame tube....ARH

JerryHawk250
11-20-2017, 02:02 PM
I have a suggestion on the lock it up problem. A spring loaded hardened steel 3/8's pin that engages a latch plate attached to the frame would do the job. Perhaps there is a frame cross tube the bolt could use, in which case I would use a hard 1/4 inch pin with a piece of re-inforced rubber hose to protect the frame tube....ARH
I'm thinking of something along these line. Being that these bikes are meant for off road it would be a good idea of having a way to lock it in place so the center stand won't be bouncing around.

Ariel Red Hunter
11-20-2017, 04:44 PM
I'm thinking of something along these line. Being that these bikes are meant for off road it would be a good idea of having a way to lock it in place so the center stand won't be bouncing around.Perhaps an easier way to get the desired result would be a simple loop welded on one of the legs, projecting through an artfully placed slot in the skid plate, with a simple 3-point hitch lower arm snap-ring pin applied there upon...ARH :p

pete
11-20-2017, 11:53 PM
If it is that all possable mount the top of the spring
foward & above the stand pivot then it will hold
the stand in both the up & down positions...

JerryHawk250
11-27-2017, 09:42 AM
Well folks, back to the real world. Time to get back on track with this project. I took some much needed time off over the Thanksgiving holidays. I had planned on doing 3 days of off road trail riding and camping but only ended up doing one day of trail riding. Thursday morning the wife wasn't feeling well so we hung around the campground. After eating my fill of thanksgiving lunch I couldn't stand seeing the Hawk sitting on the trailer and took a 45 mile ride on back roads and dirt logging roads. Friday morning we woke up to 31* temps but beautiful clears skies. We headed out to Tower Trax ATV park and put right at 51 miles of trail riding. This only took a little over 6 hours doing 5-20 mph. lol They have added a few more trails since last year and have really kept up the trails. I tested the skid plate out a few times jumping over logs. :tup: The daughter utv got hung up a few times but did well for not being lifted. The Hawk handled the hills well with the 15/40 sprockets. I wanted to shot some videos but my wife left the camera in the camper and no way was I attempting one handed driving with my phone trying to shoot any. lol There was quiet a few ATV's and UTV's with only a hand full of dirt bikes. We were some whooped puppies by the end of the day. Saturday wasn't so good. I woke up with a pinched nerve in my back and pretty much laid around in bed most of the day. I was so ready to go ride but my back wasn't cooperating.

Now back to our regular program. I haven't worked out an exact price for the skid plate/centerstand combo but should be in the $180-190 range. I still need to work out a better mounting of the springs. I tested a few options out over the holidays and think I got it worked out. The way I have it now works perfect but looks pardon the phrase looks "Jerry Rigged" :lmao: and is unacceptable.

JerryHawk250
12-04-2017, 09:38 AM
I made a few more center stands Saturday. I should have the skid plates this week. If I get them I'll clean them up and paint them and put all the hardware together to have the first batch shipped out next week. The steel skid plates with center stands will go for $190. Steel skid plate only $95 and Aluminum skid plate only $110. Shipping cost will depend on were it's being shipped to. I have 4 people that have PM me that want one. If interested pleas PM me as this will help me keep track of the order I will send out. I can get skid plate quick but the center stand will take longer as I only have the weekends to work on them and are very time consuming to build.
http://chinariders.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=11419&stc=1&d=1512353756

JerryHawk250
12-10-2017, 08:25 PM
Here are a few pictures of kirbo7106's aluminum skid plate I finished up today. The steel skid plates were delayed a week. The fabricator was backed up on other projects and couldn't get them. He was going to get them done on Friday but we had a freak snow and ice even which shut them down due to lost of power. I should have them for the weekend so I can have them ready to start shipping out on Monday of next week.

BlackBike
12-10-2017, 10:28 PM
Does the wifey know the lawn funature is now a production table:hehe:

Looks good

JerryHawk250
12-11-2017, 06:30 AM
Does the wifey know the lawn funature is now a production table:hehe:

Looks good
Yes, it's my painting table as long as it's black.:hehe: never have to worry about the top rusting.

BlackBike
12-11-2017, 10:13 PM
Yes, it's my painting table as long as it's black.:hehe: never have to worry about the top rusting.

Hehe, thats what i was thinking with the paint.

Was checking out south Lou and grand isle on the maps and saw Houma Louisiana and thought of you.. $18 beach camp sites at grand isle state park. Your next mission???

JerryHawk250
12-12-2017, 08:38 AM
Hehe, thats what i was thinking with the paint.

Was checking out south Lou and grand isle on the maps and saw Houma Louisiana and thought of you.. $18 beach camp sites at grand isle state park. Your next mission???
Sounds like you're planning a trip down this way. They do have a nice campground. I've been down there many times just never camped at the campground. When my wife and I first got married we would camp out on the beach at Elmers Island and Port Fourchon which is right before Grand Ilse in tents until they closed the beach off to vehicle traffic. At one time you could just drive out on the beach and set up camp. Nothing like fishing off the beach catching and frying up some fresh speckled trout.
We have and are doing tons of construction work in Port Fourchon which is right before Grand Ilse. We are building were at one time it was nothing but water. If you want to see something interesting, look up Port Fourchon on Google Earth and go back in time to see how much they have built up land and are still building. We built about 1/4 of the buildings and tank farm there.

JerryHawk250
12-13-2017, 08:27 AM
Looks like the skid plates will be delayed another week. The fabricator is doing a large project for us right now which take priority over my little project. He will be caught up by Friday and told me the middle of next week he will have them. I'll get these things out the door eventually. I guess i'll make a few more center stands over the weekend.

JerryHawk250
12-28-2017, 10:08 AM
The never ending delays. :ohno: The fabricator had an emergency surgery last week and is still home recovering. So it looks like it will be after new years before they will be produced. Look at it this way. It will be the 2018 model. :hehe:

Megadan
12-28-2017, 11:26 AM
The never ending delays. :ohno: The fabricator had an emergency surgery last week and is still home recovering. So it looks like it will be after new years before they will be produced. Look at it this way. It will be the 2018 model. :hehe:

Not entirely a bad thing. Trying to get stuff done around the silly season can always be a headache. They will get done when they can get done. :tup:

BlackBike
12-28-2017, 07:46 PM
The never ending delays. :ohno: The fabricator had an emergency surgery last week and is still home recovering. So it looks like it will be after new years before they will be produced. Look at it this way. It will be the 2018 model. :hehe:

This dude, first the lame excuse of trying to do his job and not get fired, now wasting time recovering from major surgery..jeeze

JerryHawk250
01-31-2018, 10:20 AM
Update. I sent out a few of the skid plates and center stands out. I have two skid plates with center stand and two steel skid plates ready to be shipped out. Skid plate with center stands are $190 + shipping and steel Skid plates are $95. Shipping can run from $18 to $28 depending on where it is being shipped. These prices are only good for what I have made. The fabricator informed me that the cost to form the plates have doubled and the cost as of right now will add about $25 to each. I'm talking with another fabricator to see if I can get this cost down back down. If not I'll have to get a hydraulic press and form them myself. As of right now it's hard to find the time to do the work myself. I'm really not making a lot on these and doing them more just to help out fellow hawk owner because you guys rock with all the great info you have provided. I enjoy this kind of stuff and wished I have more spare time to do it. PM me if you want one.

silva
01-31-2018, 10:37 PM
Thanks for sending mine out Jerry. Should be here saturday:thanks:

JerryHawk250
02-01-2018, 07:58 AM
Thanks for sending mine out Jerry. Should be here Saturday:thanks: Your welcome and thank you for buying. I hope you don't mind it being PINK? I was all out of black paint :lmao: JK . The center stand sure comes in handy when cleaning and lubing the chain. Please let me know if there are any issues or if you have any ideas on improvements.

BlackBike
02-01-2018, 11:20 PM
A center stand is the most sensible thing for ANY motorcycle.

Megadan
02-17-2018, 02:06 AM
For update/bump/posterity purposes.

I have the steel skid plate with center stand.

The skid plate is more than adequate for bouncing off of objects. Thick enough to be very durable without being unnecessarily heavy either.

The center stand is perfect as far as balance point and location. The bike favors a forward lean with the rear tire coming about an inch off the ground. Just a bit of weight on the back end and the front wheel comes up with ease. Simply strap a nice weighty object to the rear seat and you can do any front end work you need. No more having to mess around with jack stands or a jack at all for basic service work will be wonderful.

The weight added is fairly minimal, especially for a center stand. The stand on my Goldwing weighs more than this skid plate AND stand combined lol.

Oh, and yes, I know the spring isn't installed. Still debating if I want to leave the stand on, or simply install it for maintenance duties. very quick and easy to take off and on.

pete
02-17-2018, 04:23 AM
A center stand is the most sensible thing for ANY motorcycle.

wish my speedway bikes had one... but with 75mm ground clearance they may not of had enough room...

but all jokes aside
my 79 Montesa H6 enduro only has a centre stand.. must be a Spainish thing or something..



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JerryHawk250
02-17-2018, 06:49 AM
For update/bump/posterity purposes.

I have the steel skid plate with center stand.

The skid plate is more than adequate for bouncing off of objects. Thick enough to be very durable without being unnecessarily heavy either.

The center stand is perfect as far as balance point and location. The bike favors a forward lean with the rear tire coming about an inch off the ground. Just a bit of weight on the back end and the front wheel comes up with ease. Simply strap a nice weighty object to the rear seat and you can do any front end work you need. No more having to mess around with jack stands or a jack at all for basic service work will be wonderful.

The weight added is fairly minimal, especially for a center stand. The stand on my Goldwing weighs more than this skid plate AND stand combined lol.

Oh, and yes, I know the spring isn't installed. Still debating if I want to leave the stand on, or simply install it for maintenance duties. very quick and easy to take off and on. Looks good MD. :tup: Thanks for posting the picture. Putting that spring on is the hardness part of the install. Lol.

Megadan
02-17-2018, 03:24 PM
Putting that spring on is the hardness part of the install. Lol.

That is exactly the reason I haven't put it on yet. If I decide to keep it on then the spring will be wrestled into place. I actually have a load strap hooked on the drain hole of the skid plate and the lower bar of the stand to hold it in place. I just removed it for picture purposes.

JerryHawk250
03-01-2018, 07:54 AM
Still have a couple left. PM me if interested.

silva
03-01-2018, 07:03 PM
skid plate/center stand makes working on the hawk much easier. If i need to lift the front i just install trunk. Thanks Jerry!!!:thanks:

JerryHawk250
03-01-2018, 10:51 PM
Glad to see you're getting some use out of it. Works great for cleaning and waxing the chain. I let it idle In 1st gear while spraying the chain.

JerryHawk250
05-01-2018, 01:24 PM
Sold out.


I have one skid plate left. if anyone is interested. After that one is gone I may get some more made but would have to have a minimum order of at least 20 to get a decent price to keep the cost down. I like to thank everyone who has purchased them. :thanks:Though I didn't make a fortune off of them and can't take an early retirement :hehe: I did enjoy working on them and providing something that wasn't available to the Hawk owners. So with that said, if I get enough inquiries for more I'll have more made up.

nij_tp
04-13-2019, 07:38 AM
OK so resurrecting an old thread. Jerryhawk250, did you ever make any more of these? if not would you be willing to sell the plans so I can get one made locally? I have just pulled the trigger and am awaiting delivery of a shiny new Black 2019 Hawk 250, and really like the thought and effort you have put into this stand. Have been a lurker here for a while and done a bunch of reading and looking at the mods that most people are doing and this is high onmy list.

Anyway thanks

JerryHawk250
04-13-2019, 10:36 AM
I don't have any made right now but do plan on making more. Just have to find time out my busy schedule to do so.

wedooit
05-30-2019, 12:10 PM
I have a plate coming from csc to look at, I have a great local steel supplier that can do cnc cutting, etc. I contacted jerry hawk, and he is as busy as we are. I don't want to intrude on any else here, and that is not my goal. What I might do is have one made and test it...since I don't have a hawk I might send one to jerry or megadan for approval. I really like jerrys design, just thot I could contribute here, somehow. There is a fellow on this site from Boise, that got a hawk, and I might see if that would fit his bike as well. OF COURSE, I hope I have some time as well, we have been so busy with work lately, a good thing, but frustrating. WE haven't had time to put any miles on the new BMS250!