yes another what bike should i buy?

[da4design]

hey guys, i bought the brozz last year and sold it...great bike..now i am itching for another bike.

loved the brozz, just wish it had a little more power. so i wanna try something different. i want another dual sport although i don't ride a bunch off road.

i should have up to 3k to spend on one and my choices so far seem to be..

SSR XF250
PitsterPro XTR 250
or used older Japanese bike

i want to be able to get on the highway if i need to, for at least a short drive

any other suggestions i would love to hear about

[Megadan]

If you felt the brozz didn't have enough power, then the xf250 and xtr250 arent going to be much more impressive to you. I would say it might be in your interest to save a bit more and get the lxr250f or a crf250, or step up to a used Japanese 450 or 650. I say that because even the most powerful 250 will still be trying pretty hard at highway speeds.

That said, what do you consider highway speeds, and how long is a short run? I can run my Hawk at 60 to 65mph for the 10 miles it takes me to get to work. The right mods, good carb tuning, and the right gearing make all of the difference.

[da4design]

very good points, i would say my longest freeway trip would be 20 mins at 60-65.

that might be what i need to do is go up to a bigger bike.
i have seen a few older drz400s and an older versys 650 that i may look into.

[BlackBike]

very good points, i would say my longest freeway trip would be 20 mins at 60-65.

that might be what i need to do is go up to a bigger bike.
i have seen a few older drz400s and an older versys 650 that i may look into.

The 650 s are fun but fat (weight). But have a ton of power. Defiantly getting in to the street realm if you go this direction, but can handle unpaved as well. The trick is, keep it vertical.

[Ariel Red Hunter]

The 650 s are fun but fat (weight). But have a ton of power. Defiantly getting in to the street realm if you go this direction, but can handle unpaved as well. The trick is, keep it vertical.Personally, I'd look for a Suzuki DR 350. The older ones are lighter and still have much more power than what you are used to. Not heavy like the 650's...ARH

[Emerikol]

I have a DR650 that I use for longer trips. It'll flat-top all day long at 80-85 with a full load. It goes through some serious fuel at those speeds, though. With my current setup, I average about 35-40mpg with easy highway riding and regular surface streets. I use the Hawk for my around town riding mostly. I'm probably (more than a little) biased, but if you can find a DR650 in your range, that's probably going to be what makes you happiest. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have about the DR vs the Hawk.

[letsride]

D4, My Opinion would be a 350cc and up. As Dan said I don't think there is a 250 that will give you what you want. The Newer 400 zuk's are very nice, but with everything Jap, better git yer wallet out. On the other hand, I think the XF may just be ok for you. Seems it has a little more power than the CG 229 motors, and it looks to be a good ole Bullet proof air cooled design.

[da4design]

yeah i am leaning toward the xf250 right now..having a hard time finding them in the street version with the supermoto look, i think they look better.

Saw a few older klx250 bikes that look nice.

i like the fact with these chinese bikes you don't feel like it is the end of the world if you drop it and i enjoy wrenching on them..

such a tough choice..lol

and thanks emerikol..i'm keeping a look out for dr650 now

[BlackBike]

Personally, I'd look for a Suzuki DR 350. The older ones are lighter and still have much more power than what you are used to. Not heavy like the 650's...ARH

The damage is done...no regrets:yay:

[Emerikol]

DA4, where in Texas are you? If you’re close enough to the Phoenix area to make a day (or two) trip, you can drop by and ride both my DR650 and the Hawk. My DR is set up for some serious adventures, but it will give you a really good idea. Let me know.

[da4design]

im in fort worth, yeah that would be very cool to ride and see what the DR650 is like, maybe the wife and i will take a vacation soon and roll through phoenix!

[Megadan]

yeah i am leaning toward the xf250 right now..having a hard time finding them in the street version with the supermoto look, i think they look better.



I think your best bet would be to contact the nearest SSR Dealer and see if they can get in the version you want. I have been eyeballing the SR450S, and while they don't list a model with 17" wheels, in the owners manual it has a listing for them, and talking to a dealer, they do have the ability to get those wheels for it.

They might have to order it in for you, but that isn't any more unusual than ordering the other version.

[da4design]

thanks, i emailed a couple of dealers closest to me today. hopefully they understand what i am wanting. I couple of online dealers wrote me back saying they only sell the bike a off roader? so hopefully the local dealers will understand what i want

[Megadan]

If you need to, call it by the name that SSR gives it, the XF250 Street. Maybe they are just misunderstanding what you mean.

[culcune]

Member dh has had a lot of good things to say about his XF250, and he has used it on Southern California freeways, so it passes the freeway test. That being said, there are quite a few choices non-Chinese out there.

[da4design]

i saw a couple of old posts about this bike..has anyone on here had one? i like the looks, i read it is a dongfang with a zong engine, i wonder if the quality is close to ssr?
https://countyimports.com/inc/sdetail/dual-sport-250cc-dirt-bike---manual---dirtbike-of-the-year----db-3077--/34589/22312

[Emerikol]

As near as I can tell, that's a supermoto version of the Hawk. Most of the plastics look identical, and the engine cases even look the same. Look me up if you make it out this way and we can make some arrangements.

[da4design]

oh man , i didn't even see that. it does look like the hawk with street tires..lol

[culcune]

i saw a couple of old posts about this bike..has anyone on here had one? i like the looks, i read it is a dongfang with a zong engine, i wonder if the quality is close to ssr?
https://countyimports.com/inc/sdetail/dual-sport-250cc-dirt-bike---manual---dirtbike-of-the-year----db-3077--/34589/22312

I doubt the quality is on par with SSR, but Zongshen does, indeed, OEM the Dongfang engines. Dongfang gets a lot of use out of the same engine as their entire lineup of bikes using the 229cc thumper is certified on the same certificate as far as the EPA/DOT are concerned. I am pleasantly surprised to see the 'SM' dual-sport being sold by a retailer, although IMO the price is a little steep. These are the bikes that use this engine... http://www.df-motor.com/Product.asp?BigClassName=Motorcycles and http://www.df-motor.com/Product.asp?BigClassName=Dirt Bike

[Megadan]

at that price point, I would pay the extra money for the SSR, Pitster Pro or TT250. Sometimes the name, warranty, and/or factory support are worth the extra little bit of cost. Just my 2 cents.

[BlackBike]

i saw a couple of old posts about this bike..has anyone on here had one? i like the looks, i read it is a dongfang with a zong engine, i wonder if the quality is close to ssr?
https://countyimports.com/inc/sdetail/dual-sport-250cc-dirt-bike---manual---dirtbike-of-the-year----db-3077--/34589/22312

Believe this one has the over head cam engine. Little bit stronger but still 229cc. Manufact name is sunright..sun L, or Sun something I believe

[culcune]

Believe this one has the over head cam engine. Little bit stronger but still 229cc. Manufact name is sunright..sun L, or Sun something I believe

Sunright distributes the TMEC Enduro 200, but since they started selling them when Excalibur was also distributing them, they had two differences--they renamed theirs the 'Denalli XT200' and the Denalli is only available with 21/18" wheels, whereas the TMEC from Excalibur had a choice of 21/18 or 17/17.

However, in the past, I had found a possible connection between Dongfang and TMEC, so this particular bike could be TMEC-sourced, but they toss in the Dongfang 229cc engine certified by the EPA/DOT. You could be onto something, but no one on Chinariders has ever reported owning one of these, so we cannot confirm if there is a connection.

[culcune]

The Denali XT200 by Sunright...

http://www.sunright.net/linhai-scooters/denali-200xt

[BlackBike]

It says "sunny" on the side of the bike

[da4design]

i really like the look of the xf250 but i am having a hard time justifying the 3k price that i seem to only find for them. i emailed csc and asked them about building it with 17" street tires and he said it would be an extra 800-1000. at this rate i may be better off finding a used japanese bike.

i may be crazy but i love getting that crate and putting it together..thats the best part! so that is driving me to go cb..lol

[Angus67]

Well you could just get the stock rim sizes, put more streatable tires on it, then keep an eye out for cheap rims you want. $800-1000 is alot of money

[da4design]

yeah, i will keep looking. i wanna enjoy the search and enjoy the bike i get

[sshevie]

I would suggest the pitsterpro lxr 250. Its running the zongshen liquer cooled 250 similar to the CSC cyclone 250s, from what I've read on them they sound like the bees knees as far as China bikes.

[da4design]

I would suggest the pitsterpro lxr 250. Its running the zongshen liquer cooled 250 similar to the CSC cyclone 250s, from what I've read on them they sound like the bees knees as far as China bikes.

i was just looking at those online tonight..may try to swing that, they are pretty sweet

[pistolclass]

I would suggest the pitsterpro lxr 250. Its running the zongshen liquer cooled 250 similar to the CSC cyclone 250s, from what I've read on them they sound like the bees knees as far as China bikes.

Liqueur cooled.... Why didn't I think of that. Not sure other the thermal dynamics of chambord but it is worth a shot.....

Auto correct sometimes sucks huh?

[BlackBike]

Liqueur cooled.... Why didn't I think of that. Not sure other the thermal dynamics of chambord but it is worth a shot.....

Auto correct sometimes sucks huh?

Nothing like a hot toddy at trails end :lmao: with just a hint of Rotella spritzer :wtf:

[letsride]

i really like the look of the xf250 but i am having a hard time justifying the 3k price that i seem to only find for them. i emailed csc and asked them about building it with 17" street tires and he said it would be an extra 800-1000. at this rate i may be better off finding a used japanese bike.

i may be crazy but i love getting that crate and putting it together..thats the best part! so that is driving me to go cb..lol

Yes, when I saw the XF in person, I was really impressed! But in the back of my mind I was thinking what a bummer, No crate to open, and I can't put it together. BUT, gokartsusa.com has the SSR bikes, SO you could still get an XF in a crate!

[da4design]

yeah i know! they might be who i order an ssr from if i do!

i found a strange thing on saferwholesale...im tempted to just order it but im afraid they would tell me it is a mistake and then i would have money tied up with them

anyone tell me what is wrong with this page?
http://www.saferwholesale.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SSR-XF250GY-C-2013&CartID=1

[Merlin]

Remember this is saferwholesale the bait and switch kings. They took my money but never had any of the three bikes they sold me and getting my money back was a nightmare.

[da4design]

i know, i would rather pay more and reward the seller that doesn't jerk you around

[letsride]

IF at all possible do what I did. Find a brick and mortar business within a reasonable distance from you. Call them and ask if they can get you a so and so. If yes tell them you want it in the unopened crate. And then go get it. Pay them when they show you the crate. You will most likely get your MSO and all the paperwork right there, drop the crate in your truck and roll. You are in the GREAT state of Texas, seems there is alot of distributors and dealer there.

[da4design]

ok, i have narrowed it down to ssr xf250 or pister pro xtr 250 lc..both around 2400-2500. it seems they both are of good quality. i will be riding 80-90% on the road so the ssr would probably be best...but man i do like the look of the pitster

[Megadan]

They are both good looking bikes. One method I have always used to help me decide between two choices that are hard to make is to ask myself a simple question.

Which bike will I regret not buying more?

Another method I have always used in the world of off-road shenanigans is not to consider the 90%, but if you will be sorry if you ignored the 10%. Example, I am building a truck for overlanding, but I decide that a winch isn't worth installing on the truck because it won't be used for 99% of the time the truck is used, but that 1% when I need it, I will be kicking myself in the butt for not getting it.

If you never plan on trying any serious off roading, then the SSR will suit your needs perfectly. It will definitely make a better road bike to a degree. That big fat front tire is less than an inch smaller in diameter than the 21" wheel on the Pitster, and much wider. That width will give it slightly less responsive steering feel, even if it is slightly smaller in diameter.

[da4design]

well, i just had an email conversation will an ssr rep and he told me that ssr doesn't have any xf250s to drop ship, so if all these online dealers do not have them in stock...which we know they don't..we will have to wait for the next shipment of bikes. and he didn't have an eta of when that will be.

so,on to pitster. they are offering the last of there lxr 250f for 2999 plus shipping of usually 300! that's a smoking deal! they will be coming out with many more options this year,including enduro and possibly street.

so long story short either its an lxr for me or wait to see what they come out with...check out there instagram
https://www.instagram.com/gpxmoto_pitsterpro/

[Megadan]

well, i just had an email conversation will an ssr rep and he told me that ssr doesn't have any xf250s to drop ship, so if all these online dealers do not have them in stock...which we know they don't..we will have to wait for the next shipment of bikes. and he didn't have an eta of when that will be.

so,on to pitster. they are offering the last of there lxr 250f for 2999 plus shipping of usually 300! that's a smoking deal! they will be coming out with many more options this year,including enduro and possibly street.

so long story short either its an lxr for me or wait to see what they come out with...check out there instagram
https://www.instagram.com/gpxmoto_pitsterpro/

Did you ask about any deals on the XTR 250? If they are knocking that much off the price of the LXR, then I bet they can make some sort of deal with the XTR.

Unless you have the funds for the LXR. If you do, then I would say go for it. EFI, quite a bit more power, lots of upgrade options, amazing suspension, aluminum rims and CNC hubs and triple trees. It's basically the XTR on steroids.

[da4design]

no i didn't ask yet, but i am going to. if i can wrangle up enough money i will get the lxr but may take too long.

[da4design]

ok, deals for the xtr 250 lc dirt is $2499 and motard version is $2599. i think thats what im gonna do, i'm impressed that pitster ..mainly gary has replied to all my questions when no other chinese dealer even replies.

[da4design]

thanks for everyone's help and info!
i ended my search last night and bought this sweet little bike..2009 klx250 sf with 2800 miles, it was a taken care of by a ducati shop tech and in very good condition. he added slip on, dynojets and very clean.
the ride home was really nice, i love it already!

[JerryHawk250]

Nice looking bike.:tup: I see you got it in fast black. :hehe:

[da4design]

Yes sir! Everybody knows black is the fastest ����

[Megadan]

Nice bike! Supermoto wheels and front brake upgrade already installed. Hopefully he included the original wheel setup as well, just in case you get the enduro itch.

[RogerWFarrier]

Nice bike! Supermoto wheels and front brake upgrade already installed. Hopefully he included the original wheel setup as well, just in case you get the enduro itch.

The SF is the factory Super Moto KLX. It's on my short list of bikes that I'd like to have right behind the WR 250X

[da4design]

i am really happy with it, he already did the jetting and exhaust to open it up. it is no power monster but it goes pretty good and is enough for me, handles really well and it will go over 70. i am finding quite a few around here on craigslist

[sshevie]

Lol friggen auto correct

[da4design]

thought i would show you guys a before and after. i bought a sticker kit from team racing cause i thought it was a little bit boring all black. i love it, some may not like it but it turned out just like i wanted it