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sjeff35
05-11-2018, 01:37 PM
So, the love affair was short lived.

After a few all day rides I've come to the conclusion that the RX3 is just too under powered for me. I knew that going in, Maybe not to the extent that it's turned out to be, but still. Any kind of highway riding has me wishing for more hp. I've done some trips with some older guys on DRZ's, BMW 700, a guy on a new BMW 310 and a Versys 300x, they all left me eating dust.

I asked the wife this morning what she thought about me getting a new bike, and she had no problem, so that's good :)

I'm looking at a BMW f800 GSA, Yamaha Super Tenere, or the Honda Africa Twin. Leaning toward the Tenere right now.

I considered keeping it just to kick around, but I really don't have room.

Oh well.

Meloman
05-11-2018, 02:01 PM
What are the details and how much are you asking ?

sjeff35
05-11-2018, 02:18 PM
What are the details and how much are you asking ?

I haven't thought about price yet. Although I may just let my wife try to sell it, she's under the impression I can get what I paid for it :lmao:

As far as details:

2017 RX3, the fast orange color, has 1500 miles.

Added:
Skid plate
Center Stand
LED headlight
Headlight grill
Billet covers for brakes
Rox Bar riser
Off road foot pegs
Sheepskin/Gel seat pad
(Just ordered the Seat Concepts seat yesterday) Can you tell I'm impulsive???
Tourafella Panniers and Top Box
A box of spares (oil filters, brake and clutch lines, spare levers, mirror.

It's been down a few times, nothing major, some scratches on the crash bars and a few dents in the panniers, (Gives it street cred)

First oil change was at 500 miles, getting ready to do it again this weekend. Also need to check the valves.

TheycallmeD
05-12-2018, 04:47 AM
Good luck with the sale, mine's been for sale since beginning of February.

I have been offered $1,500 for it.>:(>:(

sjeff35
05-12-2018, 11:03 AM
Good luck with the sale, mine's been for sale since beginning of February.

I have been offered $1,500 for it.>:(>:(


That sucks, but I guess it's not to be unexpected.

Maybe I'll end up donating it like Joe did.

CSaddict
05-13-2018, 09:50 PM
I got $2500 for mine when it was a year old.

rtking
05-13-2018, 10:15 PM
Hang in there... the right buyer will come along. Don’t let the low offers put you off... folks are always looking for a deal.

sjeff35
05-14-2018, 01:30 AM
Rode a few bikes and ended up with a Honda Africa twin. I pick it up Tuesday.

Emerikol
05-14-2018, 04:21 AM
Congrats on the new bike. Are you going to keep the RX3, or is still for sale?

sjeff35
05-14-2018, 08:29 AM
Thanks

It will probably go up for sale soon(According to the wife) :)

I really don't have room for it here, I've thought about keeping it outside under a cover just to have around, but I'll probably put it up for sale, set a minimum price and see what happens. If no sale, then donate it or give it to my son in Florida, it would probably do fine for him there in the flatlands, and he's 1/2 my weight :)

BlackBike
05-16-2018, 11:25 PM
Rode a few bikes and ended up with a Honda Africa twin. I pick it up Tuesday.

That's a lot of bike but nice for sure. Don't get carried away with the competition in group ride scenarios . It's hard to resist but lots of times I have probably rode out of my comfort zone.

sjeff35
05-17-2018, 07:22 AM
That's a lot of bike but nice for sure. Don't get carried away with the competition in group ride scenarios . It's hard to resist but lots of times I have probably rode out of my comfort zone.


That's a good point. I ride with some guys that have been riding longer than I've been alive!

I learned pretty quickly to NOT try and keep up.

BlackBike
05-17-2018, 10:00 PM
That's a good point. I ride with some guys that have been riding longer than I've been alive!

I learned pretty quickly to NOT try and keep up.

Group rides and terrain...I also learned to get on the brakes FAST too. That a.t. weighs around 530? I think. My suzuki vstrom 650 (74 hp) is at 500lbs but yours is much more capable. You will really enjoy it. I think yours is at 95hp , watch-a-lay amigo. That rear aux fuel tank on the left rear is a really cool add on (directlyplumbed to the main fuel system, check it out) I saw some bad ass bikes out in the big bend.

There's no excuse for you not to tackle the https://ridebdr.com/NMBDR

sqwert
05-18-2018, 09:47 PM
With all due respect, you guys need to learn to ride. I've seen an indicated 90+mph on my RX3. Down hill, tailwind, and I weigh about 218.

Back in my younger and dumber days I was radared and stopped in Georgia on a TW200 doing 84mph. Stock other than main jet and final drive. I weighed 285 then. Fortunately, the LEO had a TW of his own and said he would have felt guilty writing that ticket. Said anyone who could get 84mph out of a stock TW engine knows how to ride that fast safely. Oh, tailwind, downhill, right behind a semi truck. That was about 3/4 of the way through a SS1000.

Passed all the folks who didn't wait for me on I10 on the same TW, hanging on some mudflaps. Easily tooling along about 80mph. Talk about priceless looks on riders' faces.

Just have to learn to prep a bike for a specific challenge and master a few advanced riding techniques. There's more to making speed than just twisting a throttle.

Did you know that at speed in heavy traffic the apparent wind is more dependent on the traffic than on the atmospheric conditions? Tooling along about 70mph on the same TW amongst traffic, half the cars turned off to I35E, and speed immediately dropped to about 60--not enough cars to keep the wind heading north at ground level. Also had a bunch of cars merge 5 lanes into 4 at 70mph, and tooling along in the 2nd lane that old TW jumped from about 55 to about 70 because more cars were enough to push the ground level air masses the direction we were going.

Pay attention--it isn't that hard to figure out what air will do with changes in traffic. Take advantage of air patterns and grade. Makes a big difference sometimes.

Dualsport Chic
05-19-2018, 05:15 AM
There's definitely something to be said that its more about the rider than the bike - I've seen folks on small bikes beat the piss out of lesser riders on big bikes more times than I can count.

I sadly have fallen into the same camp wit the RX3 as well and it will go up for sale. After truly testing the machine on the MABDR, I've come to the conclusion that there is too much 'wrong' with the bike to make it a true off-road ADV machine when it comes to my riding style and the ergonomics I need on a machine to make it fit my purpose.

Height is number one - can't put the tires on I need as it lifts up the bike too high and I won't sacrifice the already poor suspension with a lowering link. The stock tires continually washed out in muddy or loose gravel situations making hairpins off-road downright terrifying.

Gearing is next - in low speed situations, even with going down one tooth on the front sprocket, the bike does not have enough testicular fortitude to get me through tough spots (left me stranded when it stalled in a rocky deep stream crossing).

Ergonomics - the bike does not have ergos that meet the requirements of my body dimensions. Pegs too far back and bars to far forward (not enough cable length for me to get the proper body position (I'd need 2"). My back was continually arched and painful when standing on the pegs off-road.

Suspension - while the suspension did 'break in' somewhat on the 2300+ mile MABDR journey - it still beat me up and left me feeling like someone took a baseball bat to me at the end of each day off-road. My XT250 has been on similar trips and has never done that to me once.

Despite what I've mentioned previously, this bike is not all bad - just not ideal for the purpose I purchased it for. The one place where it did impress me was handling on the road, given its anemic power level, the bike handles beautifully on the tar - my ride back home from the end of the MABDR was mostly twisty tar and the RX3 cut it up very nicely. And, it withstood a 50 mph deer strike without damage - thank you engine guards! The flickability, comfort level, windscreen coverage, and Seat Comcepts seat, along with charging ports, and ample pannier storage makes this bike a great little commuter and for those seeking a bike for that purpose, it remains an excellent value.

I've put a lot into the bike already - most of which I will lose every penny of and more due to the low resale on these machines - but I knew that going in. I've learned much from my two year experiment with Rex and appreciate the great level of customer service along the way from CSC and the phenomenal inputs from my friends on this forum and others for the RX3. I hope to find him a new owner soon who will enjoy him for the purpose he is best suited for.

ben2go
05-19-2018, 02:25 PM
I beat a lot of young guys on sport bikes while riding my Honda CB500X. It pisses them off to no end. On that note. I got the crap beat out of me when I was riding my sport bike a few years ago. I was passing everything on the mountain. Then all of the sudden a supermotard blew by me like I was standing still. It happen so fast, I didn't even see who made the damn thing. By the time I saw him beside me, he was around the next curve and disappeared like a fart in the wind.

sqwert
05-19-2018, 08:57 PM
DSC, you are right. The RX3 is not a dirt bike. It's fashion is stolen from the old Paris/Dakar BMWs, and those really aren't dirt bikes, either. Riding fast enough to plane tires across loose sand requires lots of power and a wide powerband. Of course, there are some high speed paved miles in that race, too. Add enough suspension to handle North Africa deserts at 120mph and one must make the seat a baby buggy to be able to get a foot on the ground when stopped. Really a stupid fashion statement when you do a reality check for any other kind of riding. Adding touring tack to such a bike intended for such a highly specialized race event simply doesn't make much sense. That is why my RX3 seat is modified with a flatter sitting area. Much more comfy.

If I could find a new 350-400cc enduro bike as back in the 70s before companies went MXcrazy with trail bikes, I'd buy one. I had a great time with a XL250 with a 19-inch front and the fattest tires I could fit both ends. Think XL350, XR500, etc., with fat tires. Those would get down the highway. Built a couple for customers but never had time to build my own. One of my big regrets.

Oh, there's the XT250 but the tires and seat are way too MXie along with the seat. By the way, I have 2 TW200s with highly modified XT engine internals (including clutch and 6-speed). Bet you'd love a long dirt tour on Tdub2. Think all the good XT stuff, plus all the good RX3 stuff, much more comfy wide, flat seat, rear disc, Kenda Trakmaster II on the front, stock Bridgestone rear, just about 2 inches less suspension travel, mostly made up for by big soft tires. I have a 30 inch inseam and can flatfoot both feet at the same time. Had to switch to aluminum handlebar 2 inches taller than stock for comfortable standing offroad. Bet it would fit you perfect because even with the seat padded the pegs a just a bit to high for me.

Dualsport Chic
05-20-2018, 05:20 AM
Funny you mention the XT250 - I happen to be an owner of one with 38K miles on it - about the most miles of any XT250 on the major forums at present. My XT is my absolute favorite DS machine and leads a 200 person DS group - Northeast Dualsport Riders (NDR). Bike is bomb proof but engine is getting windy at 38K miles of beating. Time for new top end - will happen at end of this season once I've gotten through the NDR ride schedule for the year. Thinking of a big bore kit - we'll see what happens but I will never give up that machine - it will be with me until I'm on 'the other side of the dirt'.

If you look up XT250 Review on YouTube, you'll see me doing a 24K and 33K mile review on the machine. Getting close to 100K hits on one of those videos now.

The G310gs will most likely be my RX3 ADV replacement. I'll set it up for long distance multi-day touring and pop a Rally Raid kit on it to make it truly dirt worthy with spoked rims, suspension & exhaust upgrade, bash plate, travel lighting and all the other usual farkles.

sqwert
05-20-2018, 10:43 PM
Most folks will think you're a fool for putting money in a worn out XT250. But it fits.

CB550, 1976 models, fit me. I ride 2, 1 hooligan, 1 tourer. Both have 712cc engines and will smoke a SOHC 750 since the real displacement difference is only 13ccs, but the weight difference is about 70 pounds. The 550s handle lots better, especially with modern tires.

TW200s, with a seat cover and taller bars fit me. I have 4. 1 is a stock engine, nothing but a main jet and o-ring chain, riding errands on the JDM tires or a spare set of wheels with stock rear and Kenda K760 on the front.

2nd shares the stock US market Bridgestone rear and a K760 or K270, depending on the dirt/pavement ratio. Nothing stock about this one, set up for ADV, luggage, lights, tools, first aid, not too radical 276cc with about the same max as a RX3 broken in well, but more off idle, XT225 6 speed and clutch, Delphi EFI, triple discs, and built to last.

3rd, is for gnarly offroad day trips, stock rear on the front, 27-7.50-12 Interco tractor tread ATV tire rear, discs front and rear, same 276cc engine and trans as the ADV bike.

4th is a café racer, radical 276cc with 38mm Mikuni, triple discs, rearsets, drag bars, composite wheels, sticky Pirellis, not built to last, about 35hp. Super quick on curvy roads. My 107 pound wife embarrassed everyone except a scrawny dude on a MV Augusta 1000 on Tail Of A Dragon on summer afternoon after a quick shower sent all the TN cops for doughnuts and a warm sun quickly dried the road. NC state line to Tab Cat Creek and back, about 22 miles, 600+ curves, in about 18 minutes.

These 6 bikes probably represent close to $70K over 20 years including purchase price, parts, accessories, machine work, and contracted specialty work like reworking seats. Really, about $3500 a year isn't nearly what some folks spend on Budweiser! A case a day runs about twice that, that's what I've been told.

Next project is a 1972 XR750 Harley. Already have 1 in showroom condition, bought as a backup but never raced, just used for spare parts. A 2nd is a XR-TT roadrace version--only a couple dozen made by Harley, this one built from parts. Next build will be a EFI ADV version with triple

sqwert
05-20-2018, 10:44 PM
discs, looking to find an additional gear or 2 for the trans, EFI, silencers behind the reversed megaphones, hydraulic lifters to reduce maintenance, and a cushy seat. Should weigh about the same as the ADV TW, just 4 times the power. Lots of tire choices in the 19-inch size the XR runs on both ends ranging from sport touring to DOT rated 3/5 desert style knobbies. She'll be tuned to about 75hp at 8200rpm, which is pretty mild for this engine.


Hope it fits.


See, loving the one that fits is the way to go. Wishing you happiness on your rebuild.

Sullybiker
05-21-2018, 07:20 AM
My riding buddy has just got an XT and he's fallen in love with it. I think he's got the dirt bug.

Dualsport Chic
05-21-2018, 07:36 AM
You nailed it on the XT250 - 'It Fits' - the most important component of getting the best out of any two wheeled machine - IT HAS TO FIT!

sjeff35
05-21-2018, 08:28 AM
With all due respect, you guys need to learn to ride. I've seen an indicated 90+mph on my RX3. Down hill, tailwind, and I weigh about 218.

Back in my younger and dumber days I was radared and stopped in Georgia on a TW200 doing 84mph. Stock other than main jet and final drive. I weighed 285 then. Fortunately, the LEO had a TW of his own and said he would have felt guilty writing that ticket. Said anyone who could get 84mph out of a stock TW engine knows how to ride that fast safely. Oh, tailwind, downhill, right behind a semi truck. That was about 3/4 of the way through a SS1000.

Passed all the folks who didn't wait for me on I10 on the same TW, hanging on some mudflaps. Easily tooling along about 80mph. Talk about priceless looks on riders' faces.

Just have to learn to prep a bike for a specific challenge and master a few advanced riding techniques. There's more to making speed than just twisting a throttle.

Did you know that at speed in heavy traffic the apparent wind is more dependent on the traffic than on the atmospheric conditions? Tooling along about 70mph on the same TW amongst traffic, half the cars turned off to I35E, and speed immediately dropped to about 60--not enough cars to keep the wind heading north at ground level. Also had a bunch of cars merge 5 lanes into 4 at 70mph, and tooling along in the 2nd lane that old TW jumped from about 55 to about 70 because more cars were enough to push the ground level air masses the direction we were going.

Pay attention--it isn't that hard to figure out what air will do with changes in traffic. Take advantage of air patterns and grade. Makes a big difference sometimes.


I've always wondered what the terminal velocity of the RX3 was!!!

The only way this thing is doing 90 is over a cliff! :lmao:

Sullybiker
05-21-2018, 10:33 AM
There's video on YouTube of an Italika RX3 running down an open road hitting an indicated 150kmh which allowing -10% innacuracy is 84mph, which coincidentally seems to be most people's top speed.



I'm sure you could get a true 90 out of it if you were motivated :)

sjeff35
05-21-2018, 12:15 PM
There's video on YouTube of an Italika RX3 running down an open road hitting an indicated 150kmh which allowing -10% innacuracy is 84mph, which coincidentally seems to be most people's top speed.



I'm sure you could get a true 90 out of it if you were motivated :)

Color me skeptical. On a long downhill run last month I was able to get up to 77 per GPS, that was wide open. Of course I was loaded down with camping gear, but still...

Sullybiker
05-21-2018, 02:03 PM
Color me skeptical. On a long downhill run last month I was able to get up to 77 per GPS, that was wide open. Of course I was loaded down with camping gear, but still...


That's really not bad for such a high drag configuration.

sqwert
05-22-2018, 01:26 PM
You nailed it on the XT250 - 'It Fits' - the most important component of getting the best out of any two wheeled machine - IT HAS TO FIT!

Same as a helmet.

sqwert
05-22-2018, 01:29 PM
I've always wondered what the terminal velocity of the RX3 was!!!

The only way this thing is doing 90 is over a cliff! :lmao:

Not quite a cliff, but the grade meter in my truck shows -12% going down the same hill. Pretty steep for an interstate route.