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RedCrowRides
07-01-2018, 10:07 AM
Yet another question from me - I'm assuming the Vader does not come stock with an oil cooler ,so I'd like to add one right away both for the obvious cooling as well as to add just a smidge more oil capacity , which means it stays cleaner, longer .
Basically I just want to know if anyone wants to suggest a decent kit that has a decent price point ,I have found several on EBay that look okay that would appear to fit the Vader but want to make sure there isn't any issue as far as "take off" and return points on the Vader engine to plumb in a cooler and that they do exist.



Here is the one I am currently looking at , I ordered a Blue Vader so figured this one would fit the color scheme well : https://www.ebay.com/itm/blue-CNC-Oil-Cooler-Cooling-Radiator-For-50cc-70cc-90cc-110cc-Dirt-Pit-Bike-ATV/113048789781?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Chinabike
07-01-2018, 06:05 PM
I ordered the same one (black) for my Hellcat. haven't got it yet tho.
Not even sure I have a place to mount it since my carb faces forward.
I might have to mount it in front of forks.

wlfpck
07-01-2018, 07:28 PM
Bracket it to be right in front of the engine. Or... Bracket it up where the OEM air box used to be.

Chinabike
07-02-2018, 12:16 AM
Bracket it to be right in front of the engine. Or... Bracket it up where the OEM air box used to be.

My intake/pod filter points out frontwards not much room where the airbox was.
I should of keep my intake pointing to the back like a pit bike. I don't want to change that now.

I might be able to get it in front of the engine, When I get it i'll post some pics.

wlfpck
07-02-2018, 08:54 AM
Try mounting it low and under the carb. If the oil cooler isn't massive...

https://www.steadygarage.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/950x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/steadygarage_kitacooilcooler.jpg

This is a photo of a grom... but you could do something similar.

cbrfxr67
07-02-2018, 01:30 PM
Really want to see how this works out so I can copy you guys :P

Chinabike
07-02-2018, 02:49 PM
Try mounting it low and under the carb. If the oil cooler isn't massive...

https://www.steadygarage.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/950x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/steadygarage_kitacooilcooler.jpg

This is a photo of a grom... but you could do something similar.

Thats what im thinking, how do you think its mounted?

wlfpck
07-02-2018, 03:27 PM
Thats what im thinking, how do you think its mounted?

You'll have to make a bracket if one doesn't come with...

http://www.minimobracing.com/store/images/360-1432700.jpg

RedCrowRides
07-04-2018, 09:14 PM
I really am hoping that this item https://www.ebay.com/itm/26mm-Carb-Manifold-Spinner-Plate-Adaptor-For-Monkey-Dax-ATV-Dirt-Bike-4-Wheeler/162492788618?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=461500646962&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 will allow me to mount my mikuni so it is more or less in the stock orientation .Not knocking it but I really dont want my carb facing forward towards the front wheel. Basically even if I have to mount it at a "slant" facing the back of the bike I'd rather do that than straight forward ,I guess I'll see once the carb and spinner get here ( along with the Vader, supposedly going to ship July 15th, then 5 -6 days transit on top of that ,argh ).

Chinabike
07-04-2018, 10:06 PM
I really am hoping that this item https://www.ebay.com/itm/26mm-Carb-Manifold-Spinner-Plate-Adaptor-For-Monkey-Dax-ATV-Dirt-Bike-4-Wheeler/162492788618?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=461500646962&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 will allow me to mount my mikuni so it is more or less in the stock orientation .Not knocking it but I really dont want my carb facing forward towards the front wheel. Basically even if I have to mount it at a "slant" facing the back of the bike I'd rather do that than straight forward ,I guess I'll see once the carb and spinner get here ( along with the Vader, supposedly going to ship July 15th, then 5 -6 days transit on top of that ,argh ).

You can mount the carb it facing back no problem. Thats standard

cbrfxr67
07-05-2018, 11:17 AM
That adapter gave me an idea, if I can make one to mount the grom exhaust without bending the crap out of it. hmmm thanks for posting

RedCrowRides
07-06-2018, 07:58 AM
Yeah cbrfxr67 , I ordered a Aodonly low mount exhaust for my Vader ,and I have read that it fits fine on Vaders from some people , and others have said it has to be heated and bent or other kinda craziness , so I don't know what the deal is gonna be when it gets here , but I 'll figure out how to make it work one way or another. So I feel ya on ideas /ways to get an exhaust fitted ,sure would be sweet if the Grom clones got popular enough for exhausts FOR them were available and we didnt have to finaggle Grom designs to work, but thems the breaks !

wlfpck
07-06-2018, 09:24 AM
Yeah cbrfxr67 , I ordered a Aodonly low mount exhaust for my Vader ,and I have read that it fits fine on Vaders from some people , and others have said it has to be heated and bent or other kinda craziness , so I don't know what the deal is gonna be when it gets here , but I 'll figure out how to make it work one way or another. So I feel ya on ideas /ways to get an exhaust fitted ,sure would be sweet if the Grom clones got popular enough for exhausts FOR them were available and we didnt have to finaggle Grom designs to work, but thems the breaks !

Aodonly will need some modification. The clone engines are based off the CRF50 engine. Exhaust port comes out at an angle. The grom exhausts exist directly down.

The exhaust I have was a direct bolt on. Look for Honda Z50, Honda Monkey, or Honda Dax exhausts (under exhausts to be specific). Cost the same as the Aodonly and should clear the ZS190 starter that is located at the bottom of the engine instead of at the top.