Magician In The House

[mybike]

Hello all, some of you might remember I was unsure where to order from.
Q9, Killer, TXPS or ?

Anyway decided to order right from the devil TXPS LOL, they had the lowest price. Ordered Jan 2 and received today in Connecticut, Jan 9 not bad.

All good so far. Going to send out for MCO in the morning.

Started to tear it down, Carb cracked open and jets drilled etc. Fork oil changed, some nuts/bolts threadlocked. A lot more to do, even going to do some body mods.

Some pics for now. Also noticed the swing arm has a grease fitting. Don't know if older Magicians have it.

Will update as I go along.
Thanks for now.

[BBOWL10]

Cool. I like the look of the Magicians but I am too tall to fit comfortably on one. Let us know how the process goes and how it rides and holds up to everyday use.

[Megadan]

the factory grease fitting is interesting. I am not sure if that is a new thing or not, but I have never seen it mentioned before. It is possible that they ordered some improvements to the bike on the newest batch. Hopefully that translates to better welds on the frame too.

[Dz]

My first green Magician just had the hole and my red Magician did have with the grease cert.

[_skid87]

Follwing your assembly. I have a black magician arriving some day soon. I ordered from q9. Yeah I paid a little more but every one talking bad about them worried me and I read the positive words about q9. I ordered on 1-8-19 and today 1-10-19 it says it's has arrived at the destination terminal. I also paid extra for shipping insurance and lift gate delivery as I most likely wont be home when they deliver it so hopefully they can just lower and shove it off the lift gate in my driveway. Where do I find the info on drilling the jets out? I already have a micro drill bit set from when I was making orifices for my home made propane BBQ grill build.

[_skid87]

Update. Received in 3 days. I'm in Southwest Missouri.

[JerryHawk250]

That was quick

[timcosby]

remember to get the rear shock on by yourself you can lay it on its side easy peasy

[ChipToothy]

Sweet ride!


I’m probably no more than 30-60 minutes south of you, NWAR. Roads DD and EE is some of the prettiest riding around and they lead right to the Kansas and OK area borders.

[mybike]

Cool. I like the look of the Magicians but I am too tall to fit comfortably on one. Let us know how the process goes and how it rides and holds up to everyday use.

I'm 5 11 I think I will be ok, I don't go for long rides.

Got the carb back on, exhaust installed, signal lights blacked out, test fitted the front fairing and some more thread lock here and there.

[JerryHawk250]

I like the exhaust. :tup:

[Megadan]

It's nice to see somebody finally opted for one of the Magician specific exhausts on the market. The only exhausts I have seen were basically the same Ebay CRF exhaust us Hawk guys use, and it just looks weird on the Magician.

That front fairing is interesting. Where did you get it at?

[mybike]

It's nice to see somebody finally opted for one of the Magician specific exhausts on the market. The only exhausts I have seen were basically the same Ebay CRF exhaust us Hawk guys use, and it just looks weird on the Magician.

That front fairing is interesting. Where did you get it at?

I like the exhaust also, kind of Road Racer. Fairing is for a Yamaha Tricker, got that from Japan. I should be done in two three weeks.

But will post pics as I go along, after all we all like photos.;)

[NzBrakelathes]

Soooo many mods available for the magician
And yeah that’s the cool exhaust

[_skid87]

Sweet ride!


I’m probably no more than 30-60 minutes south of you, NWAR. Roads DD and EE is some of the prettiest riding around and they lead right to the Kansas and OK area borders.


I'm actually north of Springfield MO. I used to live in Bentonville. It's about 2hrs and 45mins from here. My uncle lives in Garfield/pea ridge and a buddy over in gravette.

[_skid87]

Partially unboxed.

[PaiN]

Hey homie.... :lmao:
What are your plans for the Magician? ...commuter, trail riding or some of both?
What about registration here in lovely CT... ? I thought I'd reg in VT to get my Pitster Pro on the road, then transfer to CT some time in the future. I hit a snag going through VT, so now I'm prepping the bike for the CT DMV inspection and hopefully all will go well there.

[Emerikol]

Can you post the details on that exhaust? I would like to see if it can be adapted to hang on a Hawk. I've always been crazy about the undertail exhaust.

[_skid87]

On the stand. Checking all the hardware.

[_skid87]

For all the exhaust questions, looks like this one too me. But I am not the OP.

https://zodeys.com/products/xg250-front-rear-exhaust-pipe-muffler-silencer-acoustic-damper-for-yamaha-tricker-xg-250-motorcycle-accessories?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&utm_campaign=gs-2018-08-03&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhaug8vfl3wIV0yCtBh3QWgHMEAQYAiAB EgJXQvD_BwE

[zendick]

very interested in exhaust just not the 400$ one lol

[JerryHawk250]

very interested in exhaust just not the 400$ one lol

Aliexpress has it for about half the price but out of stock. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/XG250-Front-Rear-Exhaust-Pipe-Muffler-Silencer-Acoustic-Damper-for-Yamaha-Tricker-XG-250-Motorcycle-Accessories/32961259670.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000023.6.5c6e6 c53jIfqov

[Megadan]

Can you post the details on that exhaust? I would like to see if it can be adapted to hang on a Hawk. I've always been crazy about the undertail exhaust.

I think the only issue you would have with running it would be that it might come up a little bit on the short side, so a small extension might be needed.

As a point of reference, here is a Magician with the CRF Ebay exhaust.
https://imgur.com/7c63GMv.jpg

Since that exhaust works on a magician, then there is nothing to suggest it wouldn't work the other direction. Just might need a couple of tweaks.

Speaking of Magician exhausts. This is probably the silliest one I have found thus far. Who wants to try it? lol
https://www.chinahao.com/product/525445436190/

[zendick]

As a point of reference, here is a Magician with the CRF Ebay exhaust.
https://imgur.com/7c63GMv.jpg

That's my bike!

[Megadan]

As a point of reference, here is a Magician with the CRF Ebay exhaust.
https://imgur.com/7c63GMv.jpg

That's my bike!

Nice bike! :tup:

[mybike]

Soooo many mods available for the magician
And yeah that’s the cool exhaust

Yes a lot of stuff out there for the Magician.

I have different side panels and also a larger tank, no side panels are used with the larger tank.

Not going with these options for now, sticking with the stock suff for now plus the fairing. Oh, I painted the plastics a different color will post pics Saturday when I get them out of the spray booth.

I just placed the parts against the bike so might look a little off.

[BBOWL10]

Lookin' Good. Keep it up!:clap:

[NzBrakelathes]

Yes a lot of stuff out there for the Magician.

I have different side panels and also a larger tank, no side panels are used with the larger tank.

Not going with these options for now, sticking with the stock suff for now plus the fairing. Oh, I painted the plastics a different color will post pics Saturday when I get them out of the spray booth.

I just placed the parts against the bike so might look a little off.

I looked at the possibility to sell Magician parts n upgrade but the bike sold in the USA is a bit different to the bike sold in China and was am unsure what fits or not etc.
Gets complex without a sample bike and I don't like mistakes lol
But yes soooo many bits and bobs for the Magician are possible, just the question is: does it fit the USA sold bike

[mybike]

Hey homie.... :lmao:
What are your plans for the Magician? ...commuter, trail riding or some of both?
What about registration here in lovely CT... ? I thought I'd reg in VT to get my Pitster Pro on the road, then transfer to CT some time in the future. I hit a snag going through VT, so now I'm prepping the bike for the CT DMV inspection and hopefully all will go well there.

Just gonna cruise on road local. Had the bike shipped to Ct at my work but live in NY. Hope NY DMV works out. Will try a DMV more north of me in Putnam County. Actually will let the wife go.

Some more pics,
went with a stealth motif in some matte colors. Don't know if going with the gold or silver decals. Will wait when all done. I know I know, I'm a Trickster fraud. Lol

[NzBrakelathes]

There is a 10.5L tank option in China but there are not lights attached to the tank like on yours.

[zendick]

I don't need the tank lights (fuel low and high beam) but I would like a larger tank, mine got a bit rusty anyway

[mybike]

I don't need the tank lights (fuel low and high beam) but I would like a larger tank, mine got a bit rusty anyway

No lights on my larger tank or fuel sender unit. I think I may want to sell the larger tank with the panels it comes with, all brand new never any fuel in it. If interested send me a pm.

Larger tank with side panels.

[oblivionskate]

I'm 5 11 I think I will be ok, I don't go for long rides.

Got the carb back on, exhaust installed, signal lights blacked out, test fitted the front fairing and some more thread lock here and there.
Long term lurker finally created an account since you're the first person doing some asthetic mods that actually will make the bike look more like a Tricker. The only thing holding me back is I'm terrified it'll be too small. I'm also 5'11, could you please upload a picture or two on the bike and next to it. Really looking to grab one and do a supermoto/Cafe racer hybrid build.

[zendick]

I am 6' and ride my magician, just scoot your but back about half into the passenger seat.

[mybike]

Long term lurker finally created an account since you're the first person doing some asthetic mods that actually will make the bike look more like a Tricker. The only thing holding me back is I'm terrified it'll be too small. I'm also 5'11, could you please upload a picture or two on the bike and next to it. Really looking to grab one and do a supermoto/Cafe racer hybrid build.

I will put a photo up when done. I don't think it will be that bad, but I only ride 1/2 hour at a time. 40 minutes the most.

Some more progress, made a rear fender with some aluminum, rerouted some wires, and front end all together.

[timcosby]

:yay:noticed you got rid of the name on the seat!!!:thanks::tup:

[JerryHawk250]

I like the way this is looking. Nice work. :tup:

[Megadan]

Wow, great work with that rear fender. I am envious of you guys that can shape metal so well by hand. I am only good with machines lol.

[Cabbage]

:yay:noticed you got rid of the name on the seat!!!:thanks::tup: The bike is looking good. Quick question how did you end up removing the name on the seat? Want to do it on my magician.

[Megadan]

The bike is looking good. Quick question how did you end up removing the name on the seat? Want to do it on my magician.

Likely the same way most people have done it, a little acetone on a rag. The name is literally just painted on to the vinyl, so it comes off fairly easy. Just make sure to rinse off the area really well after to make sure you don't damage the vinyl.

[Weldangrind]

I've used a little brake cleaner on a rag. Just give it a quick wipe and it's gone. Be sparing with it.

[mybike]

:yay:noticed you got rid of the name on the seat!!!:thanks::tup:

I had to, my friends would of thrown rocks at me when ridding by them lol.

Thanks
Jerry
Megadan
Cabbage

[JerryHawk250]

Frank,
Thanks for posting. You have set a good example of what I think these bikes are meant for. They make a good base inexpensive bike that you can customize to exactly how you want it and not break the bank. I think this part is more fun than the riding. :D

[mybike]

Frank,
Thanks for posting. You have set a good example of what I think these bikes are meant for. They make a good base inexpensive bike that you can customize to exactly how you want it and not break the bank. I think this part is more fun than the riding. :D

Jerry 100% on that. :tup:
When I mentioned to my wife I was getting back into a bike and mentioned I was going for a CB, she said " why don't you just get a Honda or Harley". But what fun is that? Right, been there and done that. I like to tinker and mod stuff.

Anyway couple of pics, only had white exhaust wrap on hand. Also made a inner fender shield out of some plastic sheeting to protect the air filter and found a R/C air filter for the breather. I rerouted and moved some electrical stuff.

Adjusted the valves today, from the factory there was no clearance, wow..

Found some mirrors and grips from a past project I never used and will post Saturday, might even have it all together by then.

Sorry for the boring photos lol.

[JerryHawk250]

Nice ! Not boring at all. We like pictures. :D

[Megadan]

Wow, that pod filter just barely fits in there.

[mybike]

Wow, that pod filter just barely fits in there.

Yes a little tight. I could of used an extension, a lot of room further back. But I'm a firm believer in as few parts as possible.

[timcosby]

looking at the rear shock lower mount. wonder how long that will last? theres a lot of leverage on just welds unless i just cant see enough of it.

[JerryHawk250]

Just noticed the Magician rear shock has pre-load adjustment. I wish the Hawk would of came with one.

[mybike]

Not gonna say I'm done, because it's never done lol. Maybe a few things to do but pretty much wrapped up for now. Once I get a chance to ride it around the block I will change the oil.

Put up a quick video of start up.
Click on link below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVAXWPaVDA

[Megadan]

The bike turned out amazing! I love the color choice.

That exhaust is actually decently quiet sounding, at least in the video. Sounds like it has a couple of internal baffles.

[JerryHawk250]

Wow! Nice job.:tup:

[mybike]

The bike turned out amazing! I love the color choice.

That exhaust is actually decently quiet sounding, at least in the video. Sounds like it has a couple of internal baffles.

Thanks Dan,
yes the exhaust is not too loud. I was afraid it may have been loud. For me it's just perfect, also hard to tell in the video but in person it sounds great. Seems well made too.

[mybike]

Wow! Nice job.:tup:

Thanks Jerry.

[Sir kayakalot]

Fantastic job! That’s by far the best Magician I’ve seen

[512customs]

To be honest I’ve never looked at a picture of a magician and liked it, but that bike there is bad ass. Nice work.

[OneLeggedRider]

Wow, I don't care for the stock magician at all, but that thing looks incredible! Sounds good too.

[Weldangrind]

Love that sound! Terrific job on the bike.

[david3921]

Great job on the colors. A couple of questions; did you paint the tank, and if so, what did you use? Is the tank plastic? And finally, what other color did you use? It looks like some sort of bronze. Again, the whole bike looks great. Too bad the motor isn't based on a Yamaha. You could have replaced the side covers to complete the look.

[mybike]

Love that sound! Terrific job on the bike.

Thanks Weld and everyone. I did not expect it to sound so good, sounds like it has authority in person.

[mybike]

Great job on the colors. A couple of questions; did you paint the tank, and if so, what did you use? Is the tank plastic? And finally, what other color did you use? It looks like some sort of bronze. Again, the whole bike looks great. Too bad the motor isn't based on a Yamaha. You could have replaced the side covers to complete the look.

The tank is steel. Used Plasti Dip on it.

Engine side covers were next on the list
Might put a Yamaha decal on them

Abracadabra
Now you see it Now you don"t lol.

[JerryHawk250]

Engine side covers were next on the list
Might put a Yamaha decal on them

Abracadabra
Now you see it Now you don"t lol. Ha, you read my mind. I was thinking the same thing. Lol looks good.:tup:

[mybike]

Small update, real small (decal) lol. Also painted most of the green screws matte black, hate those green screws.

Going to run it around the block and change the oil today, getting up to 45 degrees. :clap:

[culcune]

Wow! YOU are the magician, transferring a Chinese bike into a Yamaha! I wonder if anyone will ask you about the Honda engine in a Yamaha, lol? :lmao:

[mybike]

Wow! YOU are the magician, transferring a Chinese bike into a Yamaha! I wonder if anyone will ask you about the Honda engine in a Yamaha, lol? :lmao:

Not trying to fool anyone, just think magician name is pretty corny. At least you Hawk owners have a good name.

[mybike]

What is the silver leaver by the brake pedal. I think your bike turned out real nice.

I think the stop for kick start. There is also a silver bracket under the engine for the skid plate. Don't know if thats the one you are referring to.

[mybike]

OK, first oil change done.
Did a couple of short heat cycles and then rode it for about a mile and drained stock oil. Factory had too much in there and we all know the quality of it. I put in a little over a quart.

Just want to say for about $1600.00 ($1214.00 for bike) with mods and a little work / imagination these bikes are great. I'm sure the same goes for the Hawk.

I have a large parking lot here at work and gave it a good semi hard run 1-4 even got it into 5th for a short time.
Bike pulls really strong and this exhaust sounds incredible.. Feels like it will wheelie 1st or 2nd with no problem. Stock Carb with my set up so far is perfect, and is very responsive with throttle input, revs up nice.

I'm sure this set up will change once broken in and weather warms up, maybe.
Again, bike pulls strong and idles and runs great.

Some tech info below;

Have 20wt oil in the forks and they feel great.
My speedometer is about 3 mph off, not bad. May do a dig tach/speedo in the future.

Stock Magician Carburetor
I'm at about 150 ft above from sea level
Temp today 45 degrees w 50% humidity
Exhaust and foam air pod filter mod
Drilled pilot jet a fraction of a hair, I think if I left it alone it would be OK
2 turns out on the fuel screw below
Main jet I drilled with 1.2 drill bit
Have the idle when warmed at 1400 rpm
Engine temp got up to 235 degrees with semi hard pulls 1-4 running for about 15 minutes
Engine temp was about 220 when going easier
Temp was with digital temp gun at the spark plug base area and after I came to a stop and idled for about 30 seconds
(edit) 4 thin washers on the needle.

Finally got a outdoor photo.

[culcune]

Not trying to fool anyone, just think magician name is pretty corny. At least you Hawk owners have a good name.

Sadly, the only Chinese bike I have now is from the 'rebel' island of Taiwan, and it is a scooter, a TGB. Not to mention I live in California, so "no Hawk for me!"

To be honest, the Hawk name is corny as well, but it is much more mainstream; but I doubt anyone with a Hawk could repaint it and make such a wonderful rendition of a mainstream bike like you did with your bike's transformation into a 'Yamaha'.

[2LZ]

Sadly, the only Chinese bike I have now is from the 'rebel' island of Taiwan, and it is a scooter, a TGB. Not to mention I live in California, so "no Hawk for me!"

To be honest, the Hawk name is corny as well, but it is much more mainstream; but I doubt anyone with a Hawk could repaint it and make such a wonderful rendition of a mainstream bike like you did with your bike's transformation into a 'Yamaha'.

Actually, Hawk and Magician are not bad at all compared to the likes of Kandy, WILL or Tank. The Chinese have come up with some pretty awful names in the past.

mybike, that is the nicest Magician I've seen, for sure.

[timcosby]

"tricker" "magician" .....now you see how they came up with the name. like a poke in the eye to copyright.

[BBOWL10]

[QUOTE=2LZ;299705]Actually, Hawk and Magician are not bad at all compared to the likes of Kandy, WILL or Tank. The Chinese have come up with some pretty awful names in the past.




Chinese Tires Aren't Much Better:

https://japan.webike.net/products/22895043.html

Could be Japanese though. Depends on if they imported them

[humanbeing]

...Chinese Tires Aren't Much Better:
https://japan.webike.net/products/22895043.html...
http://www.centuryfungtire.com/ wants to registry that trademark (# 20046929) but authority http://wsjs.saic.gov.cn refused it :yay:

[LifeRider]

Can you title and regester a Magician in Missouri since it is not a DOT bike?

[culcune]

Can you title and regester a Magician in Missouri since it is not a DOT bike?

Since it is on the same EPA certificate as the Hawk, if Hawks are already registered there, you should have no problem since they (RPS or Hensim or Haosen) would in your state's motor vehicle computer system. Hopefully someone with a Magician in MO chimes in, but even someone with a Hawk will be representative.