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PhildoScaggins
01-10-2019, 03:09 PM
Hey guys, coworker might be picking up a 2002 dr200 for $600. If we cant end up fixing the motor is there a clone of the gs200 that would bolt right in? I know my lifan 200cc is reliable, but I think it would take fabrication to get it to fit. Thanks in advance!

Megadan
01-10-2019, 06:26 PM
Hey guys, coworker might be picking up a 2002 dr200 for $600. If we cant end up fixing the motor is there a clone of the gs200 that would bolt right in? I know my lifan 200cc is reliable, but I think it would take fabrication to get it to fit. Thanks in advance!

There is the clone engine known as the GN200/250/300 with the front mounted starter that is likely what you would be looking for. The only way to know for sure would be to measure the motor mount locations and compare it to the diagrams of the GN engines you can find online.

humanbeing
01-10-2019, 07:02 PM
... the GN200....
The direct bolted on engine is those Qlink 200 that made by Qingqi.
U don't always need Genuine Suzuki parts from US to fix DR200. Many parts (Genuine Suzuki / Qingqi / compatibles) from China can fits if u can wait

culcune
01-11-2019, 02:22 AM
The direct bolted on engine is those Qlink 200 that made by Qingqi.
U don't always need Genuine Suzuki parts from US to fix DR200. Many parts (Genuine Suzuki / Qingqi / compatibles) from China can fits if u can wait

What about the SSR XF200 (rare) or the more common XF250 Suzuki clone engines?

PhildoScaggins
01-11-2019, 01:19 PM
Thanks Gents! I'll post updates if he ends up getting the bike.

culcune
01-11-2019, 03:54 PM
See if the engine in the SSR XF250 is a direct fit if you happen across one. That engine, like the Qlink XF200 mentioned by Humanbeing, is also a Suzuki clone engine. It has been agreed here on CR that it is based on a Suzuki we don't/didn't have in the US, but still Suzuki.

NzBrakelathes
01-11-2019, 09:38 PM
See if the engine in the SSR XF250 is a direct fit if you happen across one. That engine, like the Qlink XF200 mentioned by Humanbeing, is also a Suzuki clone engine. It has been agreed here on CR that it is based on a Suzuki we don't/didn't have in the US, but still Suzuki.

SSR or some are QingQi so is the same thing

culcune
01-11-2019, 10:52 PM
SSR or some are QingQi so is the same thing

From what I recall a few years back, the Qlink 200 (Qingqi) was near identical to the US version's DR200, and could be worked on with Suzuki parts. The Qingqi 250's engine is not exactly like any US Suzuki 250 from what I remember from past threads. But, I was suggesting to see if the engine could bolt directly into a DR 200. After Qlink left the US market, SSR did bring in both a XF200 and 250 which were identical in all ways except for engine size. My guess is they probably bolted up to the bike in the same way, meaning there is a good chance the 250 engine should bolt into the DR directly.

dh
01-13-2019, 08:57 AM
The direct bolted on engine is those Qlink 200 that made by Qingqi.
U don't always need Genuine Suzuki parts from US to fix DR200. Many parts (Genuine Suzuki / Qingqi / compatibles) from China can fits if u can wait

If an SSR or Qlink motor bolted right up that would be awesome. My SSR is registered as a Pioneer, but it has Qinggi labels and part numbers on most parts.

Humanbeing, I have had difficulty finding any parts for my SSR on Engtaobao (or similar sites) this week. I can still find them from SSR or AliExpress, and a couple other places, but they are more expensive that way. Usually they are all really easy to find on Engtaobao. I was searching for "qingqi" "QM250gy" or "QM200gy" as I usually do and all I could find was a battery; Today there are a few more parts available so we will see if they come back. I hope these sites aren't getting away from motorcycle parts sales.

Culcune the 250 motor in the SSR is interchangeable with the Suzuki tu250x and Suzuki Ozark ATV's. Funny thing is, the tu250x has never been CARB compliant but the SSR is. It could very well be a replacement for the 200 engine as well but I don't have a DR200 to compare.

NzBrakelathes
01-13-2019, 10:29 AM
It’s hard going getting Qingqi parts
The 200 is a little better but 250 near nothing
I do have a set of panels n graphics tho
QM250GY-F
Nightmare to get anything even from my factory contact
Qingqi stopped selling bikes in china apart from the new Hyosong V2 Korean brand

humanbeing
01-13-2019, 11:32 AM
...getting Qingqi parts...

http://www.motorfans.com.cn/thread-18636769-1-1.html
12k km 250 needs major engine job & nowhere to get parts. Final solution: Swap w/ a used Suzuki ST250 engine:lol:

dh
01-13-2019, 07:21 PM
It’s hard going getting Qingqi parts
The 200 is a little better but 250 near nothing
I do have a set of panels n graphics tho
QM250GY-F
Nightmare to get anything even from my factory contact
Qingqi stopped selling bikes in china apart from the new Hyosong V2 Korean brand

This is not good news for me. I had the impression that Qingqi was a big motorcycle manufacturer in China, and I have been very happy with the quality of their products. I hope Qingqi will continue to make parts for our local distributor of their bikes here (SSR) and in Europe (Pulse, Sinnis, Motoran).

ChipToothy
01-13-2019, 08:24 PM
What about a DR 400Z?

elkhunter338
01-13-2019, 11:23 PM
Did the Suzuki come with an engine made in China? Or is there just a clone China engine available with cross reference parts?

2LZ
01-14-2019, 10:19 AM
This is not good news for me. I had the impression that Qingqi was a big motorcycle manufacturer in China, and I have been very happy with the quality of their products. I hope Qingqi will continue to make parts for our local distributor of their bikes here (SSR) and in Europe (Pulse, Sinnis, Motoran).

You're not kidding. The Qingqi products over the years have been by far the best that China had to offer. Love Q. Been a great bike. No issues whatsoever. Still my favorite one in the stable.

2LZ
01-14-2019, 10:21 AM
Did the Suzuki come with an engine made in China? Or is there just a clone China engine available with cross reference parts?

Ok... "from everything I've read and heard" (how's that?), Qingqi made the small motors for Suzuki, KTM's small bikes and some of the small Kawasaki's.

If this has been a tall tale, I'm not sure. Culcune???

culcune
01-14-2019, 03:36 PM
When Carl Parker (Crazy Carl) was a member here and started his own forum mychinamoto.com, he was living and working in China. He had a close relationship with Qingqi, and was even given (actually loaned) one of their enduros for longterm evaluation. I believe the XF250 before we had it. He had stated a few times that they were the OEM for Suzuki's 250 and below singles. At least that is how I recall it. There might have been asterisks (*) with that statement but I recall him stating it and me thinking there must be disclaimers as it seemed too broad.

NzBrakelathes
01-14-2019, 08:13 PM
When Carl Parker (Crazy Carl) was a member here and started his own forum mychinamoto.com, he was living and working in China. He had a close relationship with Qingqi, and was even given (actually loaned) one of their enduros for longterm evaluation. I believe the XF250 before we had it. He had stated a few times that they were the OEM for Suzuki's 250 and below singles. At least that is how I recall it. There might have been asterisks (*) with that statement but I recall him stating it and me thinking there must be disclaimers as it seemed too broad.

QingQi was making the Suzuki DR200 or some Suzuki s, now they make some of the Haoysong Koroan brand 250 maybe 650 bikes.
Not 1200% clear which exactly but they are the OEM for some brands

Bruces
01-14-2019, 08:51 PM
Pitster pro xtr200x had the Suzuki engine in it ,not sure if you guys got them in the states but we did in Canada ,and I did a clutch on one and can confirm I bought Suzuki parts for it .The bike was a 2012 .

elkhunter338
01-14-2019, 09:54 PM
so it sounds like some Japanese actual have heart made in China, that really makes me think a CSC china bike is going to be a good purchase.
Some one makes fun of it being a china bike I can ask are you really sure your bike is all Japanese or is it part China too.

ChipToothy
01-14-2019, 11:12 PM
so it sounds like some Japanese actual have heart made in China, that really makes me think a CSC china bike is going to be a good purchase.
Some one makes fun of it being a china bike I can ask are you really sure your bike is all Japanese or is it part China too.

"Technology Of Japan"

It say's so right there on the carb :tup:

culcune
01-14-2019, 11:12 PM
Pitster pro xtr200x had the Suzuki engine in it ,not sure if you guys got them in the states but we did in Canada ,and I did a clutch on one and can confirm I bought Suzuki parts for it .The bike was a 2012 .

I have a feeling Qlink or SSR had US distribution rights when Pitster Canada had them available to you guys because Pitster never offered them here.

culcune
01-14-2019, 11:19 PM
so it sounds like some Japanese actual have heart made in China, that really makes me think a CSC china bike is going to be a good purchase.
Some one makes fun of it being a china bike I can ask are you really sure your bike is all Japanese or is it part China too.

See which Suzukis we have in the US from China... http://en.haojue.com/products/styles_102_156_b156.htm

dh
01-15-2019, 11:26 AM
If you go on Qingqi's website and read the section on the Company History, they proudly claim they have been a Suzuki OEM supplier, at least in the past. When shopping for parts for my SSR xf250 on Taobao I have found it interesting that OEM Suzuki parts end up in the search results, and are sold by the same suppliers as the Qingqi parts. (Or they used to at least).

Also, since the 250 and 200 motors have both seen use in the Qlink/SSR and the 200 is shared with the DR, I would assume the 250 could also be mounted in the DR with little trouble, but I have heard what happens when we assume things...

david3921
01-15-2019, 02:37 PM
From what I remember, the Qingqi 200 is actually a 125 with a 200 head and piston. A DR200 will out perform XF, XP, and SSR 200's. Keep that in mind when considering a swap.