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ripprt1
04-07-2019, 07:31 AM
Hi all just picked up a new hellcat and looking for a new low exhaust system what are you guys using and who are you buying from. Tried one off of fleabay but the bend in the pipe was all wrong thx

ripprt1
04-09-2019, 09:09 AM
So no one has changed a exhaust on one of these???

JerryHawk250
04-09-2019, 12:44 PM
Many have done the exhaust mod. Your post must have gotten overlooked. Most Grom clone owners are posting in the street section. I'll move it there so you get more exposure.

RedCrowRides
04-09-2019, 07:10 PM
What you need to search for on Ebay is exhaust systems for Honda DAX / Monkey , the Groms exhaust flange angle is different from the chinese Grom clones and that is why a Grom system wont direct fit.


Here is a link to the stainless exhaust i used on my 2018 Venom Vader ( Baodiao /Boom 125 ) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Muffler-Pipe-For-Honda-Monkey-Z50-Z50J-Bikes-Skyteam-8/162713026326 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337605188&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5337605188%26amp%3Btoolid%3D10001 %26amp%3Bmpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%2 52Fitm%252FStainless-Steel-Exhaust-Muffler-Pipe-For-Honda-Monkey-Z50-Z50J-Bikes-Skyteam-8%252F162713026326)


Here is another link to an alternate style, also from EBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Racing-Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Pipe-Honda-Monkey-Z50-Gorilla-Bike-Skyteam-z50-2/273375044647 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337605188&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5337605188%26amp%3Btoolid%3D10001 %26amp%3Bmpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%2 52Fitm%252FRacing-Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Pipe-Honda-Monkey-Z50-Gorilla-Bike-Skyteam-z50-2%252F273375044647)


You can see what the exhaust i used looks like :16506

ripprt1
04-10-2019, 08:53 AM
Thx for reply yeah found that out the hard way I am the proud owner of a Grom exhaust lol

kirbo7106
04-10-2019, 11:03 AM
I have a 1999 Buell X-1 with a race kit. The exhaust on it is similar to this one:

16507

It’s pretty simple. There is another member on here that sold some Vaders with this exhaust.

Let us know what you decide to go with.:tup:

imapdog
04-10-2019, 12:48 PM
I have a 1999 Buell X-1 with a race kit. The exhaust on it is similar to this one:

16507

It’s pretty simple. There is another member on here that sold some Vaders with this exhaust.

Let us know what you decide to go with.:tup:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Z50-Exhaust-Muffler-Z50-MONKEY-Stainless-Steel-Z-50-Skyteam-Piranha-side/253153900879?epid=1863452737&hash=item3af125f94f:g:244AAOSwb3NZutjf

RedCrowRides
04-10-2019, 01:18 PM
If you put a Fooligan sticker on the exhaust , it will add 5 hp. Don't cheap out and put a

Photogromer or Dank Wheelie sticker on there cause those only add 3 hp. Just sayin'.

PhildoScaggins
04-10-2019, 02:25 PM
I have a 1999 Buell X-1 with a race kit. The exhaust on it is similar to this one:

16507

It’s pretty simple. There is another member on here that sold some Vaders with this exhaust.

Let us know what you decide to go with.:tup:

This is the one I went with for my zs190. Showed up yesterday. Cant wait for it to be up and running.

kirbo7106
04-10-2019, 02:42 PM
This is the one I went with for my zs190. Showed up yesterday. Cant wait for it to be up and running.

That is so awesome! Can we get a video?

Enjoy the Ride!

scoot newb
05-08-2019, 10:22 PM
What do you guys think about this exhaust? I would like some thing that will bolt right up and not rust.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Colored-Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Muffler-For-Honda-Monkey-Z50-Z50J-Bike-Skyteam-7/152491087785

Although I like the idea of this one too

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253153900879?ul_noapp=true

Will that rust and does it bolt right up?

RedCrowRides
05-08-2019, 10:34 PM
Either of those will work, and should be direct fit. Both "say " they are stainless , so they should not rust ,the big thing on stainless exhausts is make SURE you clean it with windex or similar after you install it BEFORE you start it and get it hot or your oily fingerprints will cause it to discolor and stain.It will, over time, discolor anyways but if its not oil caused burnt in staining it can be easily cleaned to a like new look again,there are several videos on YouTube about cleaning stainless bike exhausts for reference.


I really like that crazy titanium coloring on the first one you have linked , but it is a lot more $$ than the second , simpler one ,and to be honest you will prolly be better off if you drop it stunting or otherwise acting the fool with that simple low mount one, i have replaced at least two canisters on my exhaust which is pretty much the style of the first one, from looping doing wheelies and dropping it on that side and crushing it lol .So yeah ,there is that to think about too .

scoot newb
05-08-2019, 10:38 PM
I also liked the color of the crazy blue one. Here is a nicer version made in Japan. I wonder if the Chinese one is the same color blue and the photos are just lower quality.

What do you think?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254020230838

RedCrowRides
05-08-2019, 10:50 PM
If i had to bet , I'd bet it is the exact same exhaust (the Japanese one) ,being bought by someone in Japan ( from China) and being rebranded / resold. I wouldn't pay the extra money for the one that "says" it's from Japan ,it might be sold from Japan but i bet it's that same Chinese made exhaust . FWIW, my exhaust is China made and it's been perfectly fine, the only issues i have had with it are my own fault ,as in crushing canisters from crashing, the exhaust itself was well made, good welds and sounds great and dont look bad, I think you'd be fine with the one that was less cash, the only difference is indeed , likely in the quality of the photos.

scoot newb
05-08-2019, 10:53 PM
I don't stunt so I won't crush it unless a cager wipes me out. :)

What is the exact pipe you have? Did you need to make a custom mounting bracket and did it come with a ring or did you just use the existing ring gasket?

scoot newb
05-08-2019, 10:56 PM
Oh snap.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382856908076

RedCrowRides
05-09-2019, 08:23 AM
Lol, straight drag pipe, i bet that sucker is L-O-U-D, which is fine with me but some people sweat that stuff. I don't, i mean it's a 125, how loud can it be haha. The exact exhaust i used has a "dead link " now. It was $115.00 including shipping ,and it fit right on, i didnt have to fabricate anything and came with all the brackets etc needed.It also has a DB killer you can put in or take out as often as wanted / needed .,it's one threaded bolt with a lock washer on a silencer assembly.I havent ever used it but i have it if i need it. You can see what it looks like installed in the photo of my bike in this thread ,here is the old , now dead link https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Exhaust-Muffler-Pipe-For-Honda-Monkey-Z50-Z50J-Bikes-Skyteam-8/162713026326?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid =p2057872.m2749.l2649 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337605188&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5337605188%26amp%3Btoolid%3D10001 %26amp%3Bmpre%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%2 52Fitm%252FStainless-Steel-Exhaust-Muffler-Pipe-For-Honda-Monkey-Z50-Z50J-Bikes-Skyteam-8%252F162713026326%253FssPageName%253DSTRK%25253AM EBIDX%25253AIT%2526amp%253B_trksid%253Dp2057872.m2 749.l2649)

I'll see if i can "re find "it by searching the Seller and post an active link .

scoot newb
05-09-2019, 09:31 AM
I see. For whatever reason your ebay links just take me to ebay.com

Is this the one you were linking to.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162713026326

RedCrowRides
05-09-2019, 01:26 PM
Yeah that is it, same Seller i got mine from ,even shows the little bolt in DB killer in the picture. They usually have several styles available in their EBay store ,they sent it out pretty fast and yt got to me with no damage and no missing parts.,so i recommend them.

Medic
05-19-2019, 12:00 AM
I used a rm250 silencer hahaha you wont believe how good it sounds. paid 15 dollars for it lol

scoot newb
05-31-2019, 06:11 AM
What you need to search for on Ebay is exhaust systems for Honda DAX / Monkey , the Groms exhaust flange angle is different from the chinese Grom clones and that is why a Grom system wont direct fit.





You can see what the exhaust i used looks like :16506


I ordered the same exhaust but saw another member with it that had it mounted differently. What is the the hoop that goes around the muffler connected to?

RedCrowRides
05-31-2019, 06:54 AM
Once you get it installed you will see where it can bolt to, mine attached to the rearset bolt near the passenger footpeg ,if you have the clamp style that wraps around the muffler can and has a black rubber insert.
If the exhaust uses this metal bar that is kinda shaped like a banana ,it will bolt from the exhaust up to a bolt hole on the frame up near the seat .The Ducati monster clone version usually has the" banana " bar ,the Grom style clones have the clamp

style, but you can make either work, on either style it's just a question of which mounting hole location you need to use.

PhildoScaggins
06-06-2019, 07:49 PM
I have a 1999 Buell X-1 with a race kit. The exhaust on it is similar to this one:

16507

It’s pretty simple. There is another member on here that sold some Vaders with this exhaust.

Let us know what you decide to go with.:tup:


I've finally gotten my zs190 installed, wired, etc. I went to go put this exhaust on and cant really figure out how it mounts, nothing really seems to line up. I double checked with tbolt to see if it fits, but i cant really figure it out. Anyone got pics of this exhaust mounted on either motor?

RedCrowRides
06-06-2019, 10:15 PM
You might have to fab a bracket, that exhaust system uses two bolt holes on the bottom of the stock engine , i don't know ( in fact i doubt) those holes exist on the Zs190 . Even on the stock motor, if you use those holes ( i used some of them to bolt my skid plate to ) you have to be VERY careful to use washers or spacers and make SURE you dont bottom the bolt out in the holes and poke a hole into the crankcase.


Imapdog is the user here that built and sold Gen1 Vaders using that exhaust, if you search for his threads here he has lots of photos with it mounted.,this thread of his listed under " Complete Machines" has a pic of it : http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=21935

dpl096
06-06-2019, 10:27 PM
You might have to fab a bracket, that exhaust system uses two bolt holes on the bottom of the stock engine , i don't know ( in fact i doubt) those holes exist on the Zs190 . Even on the stock motor, if you use those holes ( i used some of them to bolt my skid plate to ) you have to be VERY careful to use washers or spacers and make SURE you dont bottom the bolt out in the holes and poke a hole into the crankcase.


Imapdog is the user here that built and sold Gen1 Vaders using that exhaust, if you search for his threads here he has lots of photos with it mounted.,this thread of his listed under " Complete Machines" has a pic of it : http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=21935

I did that on a Hensim 4wheeler.....really sucked

scoot newb
06-10-2019, 07:53 PM
I've finally gotten my zs190 installed, wired, etc. I went to go put this exhaust on and cant really figure out how it mounts, nothing really seems to line up. I double checked with tbolt to see if it fits, but i cant really figure it out. Anyone got pics of this exhaust mounted on either motor?

I have that problem ATM. I made a temporary mount. Enough to get it to a shop or hardware store safely until I find the proper bracket or I will have a shop fab something up.

The oil cooler too. That needs a custom bracket.

scoot newb
06-10-2019, 07:56 PM
Sean from a ZS 190 group showed me this

https://tstindustries.com/tst-low-mount-exhaust-bracket-honda-grom-2013-2016.html?fbclid=IwAR1N6wf1IlLL9OYD4o1TvqqD6oP8N-R7e5M9F3pZWIYroJ0V7qVHIZA0TLk

This might just work... If I get another muffler.

https://imgur.com/7WCAWkS.jpg

scoot newb
06-21-2019, 05:06 AM
@PhildoScaggins

I just realized you got the short pipe. Yeah, it isn't going to line up cause the exhaust port is further towards the front with the 190 in there instead of the stock 125.

I got a full length e-bay special exhaust and that bracket I posted works but the pipe sits wonky because like you, the port is further towards the front. I'm not sure if you can tell from this photo but the pipe angles outward and rubs the swingarm.

https://imgur.com/g8KGUyc.jpg

I gave in and ordered a Kepseed exhaust.


This one (https://www.motorkit.com/en/exhaust-onder/10843-kepspeed-down-carbon-exhaust-for-honda-dax-monkey-chaly-and-skyteam.html)

The way this is angled, after the last bend it runs parallel to the frame and doesn't stick out.

NOT MY BIKE

https://imgur.com/JmtaJH4.jpg

Here is that same bike with an exhaust like the one I have now. See that shit? Sticking out wonky AF

https://imgur.com/JtCklex.jpg