bms250crp

[wedooit]

After searching and researching to near my death, exhaustion, I need a 100 bill to revive me with a glass of fine whiskey, I have finally, yes finally purchased a bms250crp for my wife! almost went with the orion, but was too tall, and thanks to the GRIZ that helped me. Thanks to all that contributed to my questions! Megadan had helped me as well, and thanks to him, he is a great guy!

I will contribute to this forum to give back and help others when it arrives.

[ChipToothy]

Pics or it didn’t happen..

[wedooit]

I will post pics when it arrives. All I got is the credit card receipt at his point. I am glad the research is over....
here is some of the email....
Your order number is xxxxx. We appreciate your business. Your order will be processed immediately and will ship out within 3 business days. You will be notified when your order is shipped with a tracking number and the name of the trucking company. If you wish to cancel your order, please notify us within 6 hours via phone. All cancellations will take 2 business days to process. If your order is shipped the day of or before your request, you will have to pay shipping both ways to cancel the order.

1 x DB-E004 250cc Dirt Bike with 5-speed Manual Transmission! Electric/Kick Start! Big 21"/18" Wheels! Free Shipping

and my thanks to chiptoothy, johnny216...johnny216 is the couple that bought those two hawks....!!!!!

[wedooit]

So now I get to ride the ttr225, that I put a bunch of dollars into, and still don't know what extensive wear is on the inside. I should just kick myself in the rear, and should have bought a new bike, like what i got for the mrs. We ride the atvs, but now those will be for hunting. Talk about a money pit? boy howdy. We ride ski doo sleds, and they are not near the money pit as the atvs...BUT they depreciate, so I guess they are a money pit as well.

[culcune]

You will have a nice bike, for sure! It was supposed to get California certification, but I found out the other day when I called BMS that they are no longer certifying the bike--me and other 'Californians need not apply'. The couple who bought a pair of the CRP 250 have not been active lately, but they were the ones who chopped down one of the seats for the Mrs. The Mrs. did it herself and from the photos looked very professional, and she did feel it was still comfortable. Besides the Hawk-clone Bashan 'Enforcer', the CRP is the only other Bashan that comes with 21/18 wheels, which you were leaning towards. As far as depreciation; a few short years ago, Chinese bikes were very low cost--now, not as much, meaning the depreciation will be a little higher, but it seems the Bashans do seem to hold up well quality-wise, so depreciation is something you don't really need to worry about! :tup:

[wedooit]

Hi again, The MN couple are on a website where they are building a v nose camper as kirkupnorth, Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers
or t n ttt for short (tnttt.com)I think that name is correct. He is a carpenter, and their project is really cool. Like mrs who chopped down the seat, yup, that is what I will try with my wife's favorite carving knife, or better yet, I'll let her do it. Californians need not apply, in our times, sounds a little racist against cali's, and we the people? As a firearms nut, cali's have so many restrictions and laws from guns, to....etc., and on and on. That is sad. Since my wife is from northern Cali, we watched the Oroville dam spillway remake, and became acquaintances with a pilot, that bikes in Idaho and other places, that covered the spillway rebuild extensively. And then watched Paradise burn to the ground. I appreciate the inputs on this website from many. It is unbelievable how much knowledge there is here, and how down to earth the people are.

[Megadan]

Hey, congrats on the purchase! I look forward to seeing your assembly, mods, and what you two think of it once completed. I am pretty sure you will both be quite happy with the CRP 250.

[wedooit]

Many thanks for you input megadan!!!!!!

[wedooit]

This motorcycle frolic with parts for the old and new, is cutting into my and our firearms budget. Lucky we are slammed with work! I still haven't been issued a ship date for the BMS.

[2LZ]

...is cutting into my and our firearms budget.

for shame!!!

[wedooit]

ok, update from powersportsmax! I ordered on the 30th. They notified me of a tracking number and was shipped yesterday. So far, good service! This will be an anniversary present for the Mrs., so hopefully doesn't arrive damaged.

[Azhule]

You will notice most of these companies give good/outstanding/excellent service/communication up to the point the $$ is transferred and the motorcycle is shipped... after that you are left in the dark arguing with a 5 year old child

Can't wait to see some pics

[wedooit]

Just this morning I was arguing with my 15yo. Why do kids like to argue? The answer I want is either yes or no! "I know" is not an acceptable reply. I didn't argue much with my dad as I remember. He was right, take it or leave it. I will post on the bms250.

[wedooit]

Wow fast shipping update from RL!!!! I expected a week!!!!
Date
Time
Status
05/02/2019
05:08:19 PM
Picked Up in RIVERSIDE, CA
05/02/2019
10:01:33 PM
Arrived at origin terminal
05/03/2019
04:48:00 AM
Departed FONTANA, CA in route to LAS VEGAS, NV
05/03/2019
06:40:28 AM
Arrived at LAS VEGAS, NV
05/03/2019
12:06:00 PM
Departed LAS VEGAS, NV in route to SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Now I am scrambling!!!!! crap my shop is full of work, and my yard looks like a truck stop!!!! BUT am thankful we are busy and we have a job...AND my wife is clueless about her anniversary present! Gotta work thru the weekend!!!!!

[Inverness]

Congrats on the new bike! As someone who is new to this, could you explain why you chose this bike over say a Hawk and what the difference is? Thanks!

Now you just need to figure out how to mount a rifle to the handlebars. :D

[wheel spinner]

very nice looking bike.... Now you got me wanting one of those..... I like the 35" seat height .. hmmmmm... you probably don't need to do any mods to it.... enjoy it .... :clap:

[wedooit]

Hawk is an awesome machine with tons of info here, and guys that are beyond knowledgeable. In the masters class they are. There is a price difference between the two bikes, and the bms is more. I think, just think, the bms is newer on the market. The advertised seat height is way wrong on the bms, closer to 35 inches. I also looked at the bikes from Peace powersports. The bms has inverted forks. I also considered the storm, with counter balanced engine, and chiptoothy really praised that bike. Both the hawk and the bms have 21/18 tires. There is very little info out on the net about the bms, so it is intriguing to me. Megadan advised me that the bms would be a good choice, as well. Most of our riding will be off road. I think the bottom line is budget, and what you are willing to spend on mods, etc. Also there was a couple from northern MN that gave the bms good reviews. GOT to remember there is a ton of hawk info here, and way more than bms info. Good luck! If you have any more questions, let me know.

[wheel spinner]

Not a bad price on these bikes.... I would consider buying one of these way before a hawk where you would need to fix a new bike before riding... :tdown: and you can purchase it all put together ready to ride for no additional charges... Free shipping too?? good deal... to me it's a no brain er.. check the first link out.... :D



https://www.turbopowersports.com/products/bms-enduro-250-crp


https://www.txpowersports.com/BMS_ENDURO_250_CRP_Dual_Sport_Dirt_Bike_p/bms-enduro-250-dirt-bike.htm

[wedooit]

wheelSpinner....One still needs to go over these bikes, as per the list megadan has provided. The couple from northern MN went over their bms bikes as well. Even check valve clearance, etc. The assembled price feature, I would not trust. Check every nut and bolt. If you do, it is fun and rewarding, as you get to know your piece of equipment. A few months ago, I purchased a, new, large Miller piece of welding equipment, found some problems, and fixed them. I and we like to go thru and check equipment, might save a walk back to the pickup.

[Megadan]

Not a bad price on these bikes.... I would consider buying one of these way before a hawk where you would need to fix a new bike before riding... :tdown: and you can purchase it all put together ready to ride for no additional charges... Free shipping too?? good deal... to me it's a no brain er.. check the first link out.... :D



https://www.turbopowersports.com/products/bms-enduro-250-crp


https://www.txpowersports.com/BMS_ENDURO_250_CRP_Dual_Sport_Dirt_Bike_p/bms-enduro-250-dirt-bike.htm

I don't know where you got that bias from, but I have yet to fix anything on my Hawk? I greased things, changed fluids, etc when assembling, something I would do on any of these bikes. In fact the only think to break so far has been the throttle cable that came with my pumper carb and new throttle.

[wheel spinner]

OK... LOL... wedoit and MegaDan... I wasn't referring to checking torquing bolts and nuts ...or preventive maintenance.. I was referring to buying parts to mod the bike... porting and polishing ports and cylinders... changing carbs and etc... changing chains and sprockets... changing out forks and etc... that's what I was referring too... Just enjoy the bike when you get it... :tup:

[NorthRider]

We're the couple that bought two BMS CRP250s last November. Man, we love these bikes! Winter here was long this year, but we've gotten out on the bikes a few times in the last week or two, and we're still just really happy with our choice! We've had them on gravel roads and pavement, and a little bit in the pasture, and they perform just great on all riding surfaces.

They run so smooth!! It actually kind of surprises us every time we ride, just how well they run. Everything else is good, too. They shift nicely and handle well. We haven't had even the tiniest thing go wrong, so that's been nice!

Yes, I did have to cut my seat down, but I'm pleased with how it turned out. I'm almost flat-footed on the ground -- just my heels are up a tiny bit.

I think you'll be pleased with your choice. What color did you get her? Make sure to post some pics.

[wheel spinner]

Hey Northern... so you really like the bikes that much... take some pictures of them... how long have you had the bikes??? any problems?? Cut the seat down?? I had to have mine re upholstered not because it was tore up but I needed more padded foam for my boney butt... lol.. thanks :D


I am also looking at a new Roketa here...



https://extreme-scooters.com/shop/dirt-bikes/roketa-db-08-200cc-mc-enduro/

[wedooit]

Morning wheelspinner,
Here is the link to look at and read about the couple from MN
http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=22506

You can search all their posts.
Mrs northern cut the seat, and posted pictures. she did a great looking job. Somewhere they also posted pix of their trip to NV. They really like their purchase! He is a carpenter and am sure meticulous as heck. They are converting a vnose trailer into a camper, and have done a unbelievable job.

There is little info on the net about this bike, and that is one of the reasons it intrigues me. One of the things that irritates me, is the incorrect posting of the seat height by sellers. Then I wonder what else is misleading. Years and year ago many moons ago, as I say, in my spare time, I kept a small fleet of sleds running for a fellow. We moded engines, did carb work, frames, chassis, tacks, etc. I also had my own 2 bikes that I tinkered, worked on, etc. That was years ago, and my memory has slipped. I was able to rub elbows and get to know some of the founders of the sled industry, and engineers of engines, EFI, and so forth. Learned a lot, and should have taken notes. So my journey in life, led us to riding quads in the summer. That leads to 4 tires, EFI fuel pumps, injectors, front shafts and u joints, CV joints and boots, leaking seals, starters, etc. One day a couple of years ago, maybe 3, I said to self, why don't we try something different like motorcycles, get back into it. I stumbled onto a heck of a deal on a 250 Yamaha, too tall for me and the mrs, of course. One day, she went riding with a neighbor, had an unusual accident in the mountains, called me, and I came and got her off the mountain, bleeding, got that stopped, and had to have what 30 stitches in her knee. ok too big of a bike. Sold it at a profit. Got the mrs healed up Started looking for something smaller, stumbled onto a used ttr225 yamaha. Been tinkering and fixing on that project, and we both ride it. Gravels me to pay 4000.00 for a new dirt bike, when I could find a good used and touch it up. Stumbled onto this forum, and started looking at the china syndrome of bikes. There is lots of people that have great mileage, lots of miles and experience with these bikes. hmmm 1300 to 1700 for a new, yes, new bike? With a backup of masters that have a wealth of info? I stumbled onto a klx140L, kawasaki last summer, heck of a nice bike and a good deal. Gave the guy a deposit to hold it for a day, to acquire some cash. That same day, I got hurt in an accident, and was laid up for 3 months, 36 days in the hospital, so the seller sold the bike to someone else, and graciously returned my deposit. So last summer went to heck as far as riding, camping, etc. Then thru research, after research, maybe two months on this forum, I decided to acquire the above purchase. Mods? heck don't know yet until the china virus arrives, and I and we get the bug. I hate catalytic converters, and after exposure to the regen system on these big trucks, and failing sensors and the def, and the problems, will prob gut the cat on the new bike. A different air filter may also be in the need or want category. I cannot thank enough of the people on this site that have the knowledge, and are kind to share. I will post about this new acquisition, which is a anniversary present for the mrs, and she doesn't know. I am wordy, and that is my story, and am sticking to it, while drinking my favorite coffee this morning, while typing. Take care and stay safe!

[wedooit]

Forgot to mention about the seat....seat concepts has a seat thru the CSC website, exclusive I think. I don't know what it will fit, but I think I read a post on this site, that someone bought one for a hawk, and modified just a bit. I have that book marked somewhere and cannot find.

[culcune]

and you can purchase it all put together ready to ride for no additional charges... Free shipping too?? good deal... to me it's a no brain er.. check the first link out.... :D

https://www.turbopowersports.com/products/bms-enduro-250-crp



It is $275 if you click on the fine print. However, Turbo seems like a decent operation (I have spoken to them a few times) and are relatively physically close to BMS. They had on their youtube video/ads that these were going to be California certified. I confirmed this with the Bashan rep for North America that BMS was going to certify the CRP while the Bashan bikes were not. However, the other day, I called BMS directly, and the woman on the phone stated they were no longer going through certification. I am guessing that Turbo were planning on selling a boatload of bikes in California, so now that they are only going to move them via mail-order, they might give you some kind of incentive less than $275 to assemble them? Might be low enough to make it worthwhile??

[Megadan]

Forgot to mention about the seat....seat concepts has a seat thru the CSC website, exclusive I think. I don't know what it will fit, but I think I read a post on this site, that someone bought one for a hawk, and modified just a bit. I have that book marked somewhere and cannot find.

The CSC TT250 and Hawk seat are identical. No mods required between the two. Without seeing the seat on the CRP it is hard to say the same, but considering many of these bikes share a lot of parts between them, it is possible.

[2LZ]

Forgot to mention about the seat....seat concepts has a seat thru the CSC website, exclusive I think. I don't know what it will fit, but I think I read a post on this site, that someone bought one for a hawk, and modified just a bit. I have that book marked somewhere and cannot find.
I have that seat on Mrs. 2LZ TT250. Unless CSC changed how they sell it, it's only the foam and seat cover. You have to mangle your stock seat and use the pan. I tried recovering it myself and ended up taking it to an upholsterer. It was a DAMN EXPENSIVE seat by the time I was done with it. I ended up buying a stock seat last month because the low seat made my 6' fat a$$ so cramped in the saddle, I felt like the circus bear on the tricycle.
She NEVER rides the bike. I'd love to sell that low seat.

[wedooit]

The bms250crp has arrived. Looks like in good shipping condition. Crate wasn't damaged. It looks awesome in the crate! Will probably take me a week to put it together, between my regular day job. My wife was excited about her anniversary present!

[2LZ]

The bms250crp has arrived. Looks like in good shipping condition. Crate wasn't damaged. It looks awesome in the crate! Will probably take me a week to put it together, between my regular day job. My wife was excited about her anniversary present!

Pics! We are sorely addicted to "shiny" here....

[NzBrakelathes]

The bms250crp has arrived. Looks like in good shipping condition. Crate wasn't damaged. It looks awesome in the crate! Will probably take me a week to put it together, between my regular day job. My wife was excited about her anniversary present!

Congrats!

Do have a look in my eBay store for some sets n kits should you need to help set up the bike from new.
The hawk 250 marked stuff should all relate in case you need to preform the fairly common first set up n tune etc

Link below

[wedooit]

new bike pix

[Ski_rush]

We need more pics! :tup:

[culcune]

Congrats on the bike!! I doubt you will have many issues with it. I would suggest you invest literally 'small' money for some of NZbrakelathe's maintenance tools like the valve tool set since you will be adjusting those regularly.

[dpl096]

OK....ready for ore pix now!

[NzBrakelathes]

Congrats on the bike!! I doubt you will have many issues with it. I would suggest you invest literally 'small' money for some of NZbrakelathe's maintenance tools like the valve tool set since you will be adjusting those regularly.

The 3 main sets/tools I sell would suit around 95% any Chinese bike/motor etc
Both CB OHC or CG push rod and cc also the smaller horizontal engines (Check valve adj lock nut and I can add or change the valve lock tool)
The tune kit needs to be the PZ30 Carb NOT Mikuni but Keihin.
The reality is there is no way I can list all bikes as that I don't know and even ATV use the same stuff.
Just chjeck model of engine adn Carb that is what you need to check etc

[Megadan]

Woohoo, now the fun stuff can begin!

[NorthRider]

Nice anniversary gift decision, Weedoit!!

I predict that your wife will LOVE this bike -- I know I sure love mine!

If it's too tall, don't let that disappoint her. You can always cut down the seat like I did. Mine turned out pretty well. If you go that route, buy an electric knife with a blade long enough to cut all the way through from side to side. My blade was too short to do that, and it made it much more difficult. We also lowered my front forks about 3/4 of an inch. With those adjustments, the bike is at a really comfortable, safe height for me. It still handles great, too, both on and off road.

Post lots of pictures, and enjoy!

[wedooit]

Gotta laugh at the ok on the seat! Everything must be ok.....lol

[wedooit]

I am working on the blurry photos....sorry
okokok I am going to go and spray weeds as we have a nice day, then am going to work on getting that bike together and started for the mrs. for mothers day!

Our son left the nest, to get on his own, (we are proud of his success!) and was a huge help around our ten acres, if he was here, he would have that bike put together, and have helped with the weeds, I would still be drinking coffee. Our daughter is not a motorhead. We cant all have motorheads and shopheads!!! LOL!!!!
Just a quick story...I had a beater car for a grocery getter, our son got a hold of it, and used it for his purposes, one day he came home with a hug recliner strapped to the roof of the beater, he found it on the side of the road. was going to be a shop chair. ok the story goes on, then he gets the idea to cannibalize the beater, reinforce the roof. a week later he had his 450honda strapped to the roof of that car. I almost crapped a biscuit, and hoped my insurance agent didn't see it. gotta laugh as he was intuitive!!!! lol

[Megadan]

I just picture a Chinese guy at the factory with a smile and a thumbs up saying "OK!" to every part he looks at.

[wedooit]

bertter pix, still haven't got it together....I have a dumb phone for a dumb guy. my daughter told me how to set auto focus...lol

[Megadan]

I am seeing something interesting in that picture, but maybe it is just my eyes or the picture. Is that carb mounted to the socket (intake to the head) via a clamp instead of bolted on?

[NzBrakelathes]

This bike looks like the storm? Looking at the back end at least
Plastics not like Hawk or enforcer

Just speaking out loud lol

[culcune]

This bike looks like the storm? Looking at the back end at least
Plastics not like Hawk or enforcer

Just speaking out loud lol

They are both Bashan bikes, so looking like it is not by accident. Wheel size is the only real obvious difference.

[wedooit]

I worked on the china syndrome late last night, and was trying to be a perfectionist, with the cables and wiring conglomeration that will set behind the headlight. I was taking my time, and not being in a hurry to spank the china syndrome. (ie fire it up)The throttle control is cheezey. I went to the bms website as they proclaim to have to have assembly instructions, but all their instructions are for the same smaller bike. Peacepowersports has a tutorial that provided a few good common sense tips, that my lack of common sense area overlooked. LOL. Northriders posts have been helpful as well. Northrider has some good pictures of the bike with the fuel tank removed. I haven't fired it yet, as am going to drill and tap, zerk, the swing arm, pivot. I also haven't adjusted the valves as of yet, or changed the oils. I have used thread sealer. For a less expensive bike, vs, the 4000.00 and above jap bikes, I am quite impressed with the engineering on the frame, and overall engineering on plastics, etc. It doesn't look like they use robotics for welding.
A quick story, one of the hard working young fellows that help me from time to time, has a girl friend by the name of China.The other day when she was in my shop, I introduced her to the bms....China meet China! LOL!

[wedooit]

Megadan, the pz30 carb is bolted to the head with a plastic mount, and then the carb is bolted to the plastic mount. and of course the air intake hose is clamped. Thanks again for all you input!

[wedooit]

Northrider, who has been extremely helpful, lowered the forks on one of their bikes, by 3/4 inch. They tell me that has not created any problems. Mrs northrider, that cut the seat, also on the lowered front end, says she likes the entire setup.

[wedooit]

When changing fork oil, motocheeze took out a spacer, i haven't checked, but if there is one, should i take out the spacer?
thanks

[Megadan]

When changing fork oil, motocheeze took out a spacer, i haven't checked, but if there is one, should i take out the spacer?
thanks

The spacer he removed is a preload spacer used to set rider sag. Whether to remove it, or add a bigger one, comes down to rider weight. If it has one, leave it in for now, and then set the rider sag once the bike is assembled

Don't change the oil the Motocheez way and remove the damping rod bolt on the bottom. I hate that video he released so much.

Support the bike so it is upright and there is no weight on the front wheel/suspension.

remove the brake caliper, then the wheel.

Loosen the top triple clamp pinch bolt.

Loosem the top cap on the fork - just crack it loose like a quarter to half a turn do not take it out.

Loosen the lower triple clamp pinch bolts and make sure to keep one hand on the fork tube of the one being removed when undoing the last one so it doesn't fall to the ground.

Remove the fork leg.

Place the wrench/ratchet (ratcheting wrenches are awesome for this) you used to break the top cap loose on the top cap, place a rag over the top of the wrench then put your free hand over said rag and grip the fork tube with your thumb and pointer on top of said wrench/rag combo and start loosening said cap. keep that rag/tube holding hand fairly firm over the top of everything. You will know when the cap releases from the threads.

Once cap is free/off the fork tube you will be able to invert the fork to dump out the old oil. Since I am unfamiliar with what type of inverted fork these use you may or may not be able to simply take the cap off and pull the spring out. If it does use an actual cartridge then the cap will actually be screwed on to the cartridge rod for the dampener.

Once most of the oil has drained out, try to cycle the tube up and down with it still inverted a few times to get as much oil out as you can.

From there you can refill it with fresh fork oil of your choice, reverse the whole procedure, and re-install. Take care to not cross thread the top caps when screwing them back into the tubes as those are very fine threads and easy to damage.

Voila, proper fork fluid change.

[wedooit]

copy that megadan, and thank you!!!!

[Ski_rush]

+1 for what Dan said. When I had the Enforcer, I changed the fork oil the way Motocheeze suggested. It was a big mistake. I had one hell of a time getting the bottom bolts to tighten back up. And, one bolt leaked afterwards, iirc.

Dan...do you do videos...?

[Megadan]

+1 for what Dan said. When I had the Enforcer, I changed the fork oil the way Motocheeze suggested. It was a big mistake. I had one hell of a time getting the bottom bolts to tighten back up. And, one bolt leaked afterwards, iirc.

Dan...do you do videos...?

Yes I do, just not super regularly I am OddBallPerformance on youtube.

8 minutes into this video I actually demonstrate exactly what I described with my Hawk forks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWWVi40GQs0&t=900s

[wedooit]

Megadan has some really good videos on utube, that I found and would definitely recommend!!! I did not stumble into them earlier, sad tons of info for all the china syndrome bikes.....oddballperformance on utube

[wedooit]

HD tranny jack sketchy at best. Was going to hook it on the crane, but didn't want to bend the frame.

[wedooit]

Question. Where the lower shock mounts, gap exists both sides, should i use washers to titen gap?

[Megadan]

Megadan has some really good videos on utube, that I found and would definitely recommend!!! I did not stumble into them earlier, sad tons of info for all the china syndrome bikes.....oddballperformance on utube

I thought about changing the name of my channel to Megadan Motos, but I have carried the Odd Ball Performance name for so long just out of habit. It's been my yahoo e-mail since 2003 and my facebook and youtube ID since 2009ish.

[Megadan]

Question. Where the lower shock mounts, gap exists both sides, should i use washers to titen gap?

How much of a gap are we talking? The tabs are just likely warped out of square from the welding. My lower mount on the Hawk was bent inward so much I had to straighten it back out to get the shock on.

[wedooit]

Checked again, no gap, there is welded spacers, in lower shock mount. Northrider said rear rack was going to be tricky, and it was. Most everything, for the assembly was straight forward. One of my problems is i over analyze simple solutions.

I still do not like the cheezy throttle mechanism. Megadan on one of his videos for pumper carb, liked a throttle assembly. Will that throttle work on the stock setup? To do yet is valve adjust, change oil, battery, and install plastics. Then spank it.

[wedooit]

Checked valve adjustment, intake adjustment vwas off. had to remove fuel tank to get valve cover off. Fuel tank was easy to remove. I wondered why northrider had pictures of the fuel tank removed. One other item, this engine has been fired. Maybe at the engine factory they fire them somehow. I could tell on the plug and the top of the piston. Years ago when I went thru the Arctic Cat factory at Thief River Falls, MN., they fired every engine before installation.

[wedooit]

I need to lower the rear. I cannot remember what size shock is oem, but a lot of fellows here have ordered the 280mm, and shimmed side to side with washers, or I can build spacers. I cannot find the oem measurements.

[NzBrakelathes]

Checked again, no gap, there is welded spacers, in lower shock mount. Northrider said rear rack was going to be tricky, and it was. Most everything, for the assembly was straight forward. One of my problems is i over analyze simple solutions.

I still do not like the cheezy throttle mechanism. Megadan on one of his videos for pumper carb, liked a throttle assembly. Will that throttle work on the stock setup? To do yet is valve adjust, change oil, battery, and install plastics. Then spank it.

There’s options on throttle including a bigger switch gear n throttle in 1 that’s a 1/4 but it’s best with the correct cables as stock cable is at the end of its adj at the handle end

[2LZ]

I need to lower the rear. I cannot remember what size shock is oem, but a lot of fellows here have ordered the 280mm, and shimmed side to side with washers, or I can build spacers. I cannot find the oem measurements.

I'd get a measure on the stock shock and then shop a shorter one on Amazon. There's a bunch of inexpensive options.
Regarding spacers, I've done correct size washers without incident. Just leave a little room for wiggle. Heck, unless the Mrs. will be dropping off triple jumps, it's probably fine.

[Megadan]

For the most part, the stock cable with not work with the quick turn housing I am using. The sheath is too long and thus causes the cable to be too short and it holds the throttle slide open like 3/4 of the way. Good if you always want to be hauling ass everywhere, bad if you don't want your engine bouncing off the rev limiter in neutral lol.

There are quick turn throttle assemblies like mine that come with new cables that should work. You will want to measure the stock cable length. If I can find my stock cable, I will measure it for you.

[wedooit]

ok got the china syndrome together. Got a kick out of the acid packaging which ws not marked with all the caution labels, and the labels for Cali folks...lol. BUT was not enough acid to fill the battery....go figure. Am going to use the stock battery for now. So hooked up the battery and cleaned up the wiring mess with wire ties, stuck the key in the ignition, turned it on, all 4 turn signal lites flash flash flash, just like 4 way flashers, etc. Got the wiring diagram, found the flasher, with a diode, and by the way, I have not idea how that works, unhooked it. Still flashing as has emergency flashers. Then I thot to see if the brake lite worked, as soon as I stepped on the brake, the 4 way flashers quit. Everything normal. Now to fire it and see if it runs, etc. Wires need to be wire tied up, and the cheezy fuse holder needs to be replaced. We have found in our work, that sometimes not enough voltage goes thru a glass style fuse....maybe only 8 volts. In years ago we always used domestic fuses. Sorry as I call parts cheezy, just my daily dialog, don't get offended. I get what I paid for. We use a lot of wire ties in my company, and have found many wire ties out there to be cheezy, and break. I hate cheezy tools that break and break my knuckles. Sometime I will post the tools we use, and why. The other daily word I use is "sketchy."


If you search, northrider….they have lots of pixs and better pix taker than I, on the bms250crp.

[wedooit]

We, I should say the mrs., cut the seat. Also have a 280mm shock coming today, as will try some lowering options. If that shock is too low, I will order the 290mm. I did lower the front 3/4.

I spanked it last night, started right up. No electrical issues. Am thanking the china gods. We haven't had any riding experience with it yet, as raining here.


Likes...but haven't rode it yet

easy to work on, simple
BMS comes with 21" front and 18"rear wheels, black rims
inverted forks! nicely machined
luggage rack
dual piston caliper on the front disc brake
seat material is very nice
quality and workmanship seems better than what was expected
no freight damage, no broken plastics, that was luck

dislikes, but can be updated
not enough battery acid to fill battery
no fuel filter, I am going to add one
cheezy throttle control
somewhat cheezy electrical controls on handle bar
fuse holder
mirrors
hand grips
foot pegs
complete misrepresentation of seat height on all internet sites, however we knew this before ordering it, and had the correct seat height

overall? am pleased. will give updates on riding.

my many thanks to all that have posted valuable info, and have assisted with questions!!!!!

[2LZ]

Seat looks nice and is WAY less expensive than my adventure down the CSC low seat path!

Keep in mind it may be like riding a blender for the first few hundred miles but it will smooth out.
The secret to being a successful China Rider is to keep reminding yourself how little you paid for it vs. how much fun and value you get out of it.

[wedooit]

Riding a blender 2lz? Lol! Margarita? Jimmy buffet? I sing that song as i cruise along. Lol wow a poet and didnt know it! Lol. !! Blew out my flip flop....!!!!

[Megadan]

He is right though, these engines are a bit more vibratey when new vs. after they break in. You will literally feel it smooth out as you put miles on it.

[wedooit]

Wow, first ride, as the mrs. took the bms for a mile or two ride tonight, and then I followed suite. She liked her seat cut job. I didn't install new 280mm shock or remove the oe as of yet.

2lz said it would ride like a blender, while I was singing Margaritaville, but actually quite smooth. We were quite impressed!!!

2lz said above and I quote "The secret to being a successful China Rider is to keep reminding yourself how little you paid for it vs. how much fun and value you get out of it." Very true!!!!!

Cannot say how simple this machine or tool, or what ever a person wants to call it, actually is.

[wedooit]

megadan gave me this link to a small fuel filter

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337605188&toolid=10001&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FROTARY-PART-10351-FUEL-FILTER-WITH-3-16-NIPPLE-STAINLESS-STEEL-SCREEN-%2F283319817572%3F_trksid%3Dp2349526.m4383.l4275.c 10%23viTabs_0

Also change the 3/16 fuel line to an actual fuel line, instead of the oem fuel lines.

[Megadan]

That was just an example of one that I use since the short length makes it an easier fit between the tank and carb. Like I said, just about any lawn and garden 3/16"/5mm fuel filter will work just fine. A 1/4" will also work if you don't mind having to force the fuel line over the ends of the filter.

[NorthRider]

Wow -- she really did a nice job on that seat!

I agree -- it's a heck of a nice bike, especially when you consider the cost.

Enjoy!

[herbie]

I started following this thread to find out more about the BMS 250crp bike. Nice bike for sure, sounds like you are making it your own. It's pretty cool that your wife likes to ride! :tup:
I know you haven't had a lot of time in the saddle yet but I'm interested in how those tires do on the street. They look a little less dirt aggressive than say the Hawk tire from what the pics look like.
I'm enjoying the content of this thread, keep on keeping on!

[culcune]

Herbie: Find the thread started by Northrider, the person who posted just above you; there is a whole bunch of information on their CRPs.

[wedooit]

Northrider helped me tremendously, they are great folks! Surfhawk, and johnny216 was extremely helpful, as well as 2lz, and of course the master megadan! I may have forgotten some folks here, but my thanks to all!!! Since we live in the country, this bike will be ridden mostly off road, forest service, blm, etc. BUT with a few trips to town to get a loaf of bread or milk, as we always run out of something. So we are planning on riding it with the existing tires, then converting them to more of a dirt tire. We haven't researched what tire should be next. I still haven't switched the shock to get a lower seat height experimentation, but will get it done in a day or two.

[herbie]

Herbie: Find the thread started by Northrider, the person who posted just above you; there is a whole bunch of information on their CRPs.
Thank you culcune I will do that! :tup:

[NorthRider]

Northrider helped me tremendously, they are great folks! Surfhawk, and johnny216 was extremely helpful, as well as 2lz, and of course the master megadan! I may have forgotten some folks here, but my thanks to all!!! Since we live in the country, this bike will be ridden mostly off road, forest service, blm, etc. BUT with a few trips to town to get a loaf of bread or milk, as we always run out of something. So we are planning on riding it with the existing tires, then converting them to more of a dirt tire. We haven't researched what tire should be next. I still haven't switched the shock to get a lower seat height experimentation, but will get it done in a day or two.

Sounds a lot like where we live -- lots of forest roads, gravel roads, etc. We use our bikes for quick runs into town, too.

You are more than welcome for whatever help we were able to give. It's nice to have people to bounce stuff off of, and this forum is GREAT for that!
:)

[wedooit]

Original shock on top, about 12" eye to eye. Top mount not as wide as bottom. Will have to shim upper and lower. Original shock did not have any adjustment. Bottom shock is a 280mm or about 11", 1200 lb. Haven't installed it to see if lowered bike. 280mm shock is adjustable. Out of time for tonight, will post when I get it installed, have the mrs. ride it.

[wedooit]

a shocking update....lol...
I am working on shock experiment, and was shocked to find out (lol) I had to remove the airbox, as couldn't get my hands and fingers on the top mount to install spacer washers or spacers. Removed battery, everything to get the air box out. Quite a job. on my post, above, the original shock, about 12" eye to eye. OEM top shock mount not as wide, side to side, as bottom. Will have to shim upper and lower. Original shock did not have any adjustment, or preload. The shock I purchased is a 280mm or about 11", 1200 lb. Haven't installed it to see if lowered bike. The new 280mm shock is adjustable. I ran out of time last night, will post when I get it installed. Hmmm the shim problem bothers me, as the way the new shock, the upper and lower mounts on the shock are manufactured. I am accustom to typical shock manufacturing, where the inner sleeve is mounted and pressed into rubber. This new shock mounts, are designed differently, however used by many on this site. I wonder if long term that will work. The steel mounts manufactured on the bike, are rigid enough, that they wont tighten or pinch together without the exact shim, to take up a tiny bit of side to side play. I hope I am making sense. In retrospect, I am not sure this is the best choice for a modification, as I have it all apart.

Now that I have the airbox torn out, I wonder if I should go to a different air filter directly to the carb, and gut the airbox. the airbox acts as a mud flap. 2lz here posted some pixs of what he did with the airbox. I don't want to get to crazy with modifications and have the bike not run right, especially when it is new and runs perfect, and am short of time for the next couple of weeks.

There are two hoses connected to airbox, and one of them I can let go into atmosphere. As of this post, I cant remember where the other hose needs to be connected to or goes to, or what I should do with it, if I gut the airbox. Hmmmm….

[2LZ]

a shocking update....lol...
I am working on shock experiment, and was shocked to find out (lol) I had to remove the airbox, as couldn't get my hands and fingers on the top mount to install spacer washers or spacers. Removed battery, everything to get the air box out. Quite a job. on my post, above, the original shock, about 12" eye to eye. OEM top shock mount not as wide, side to side, as bottom. Will have to shim upper and lower. Original shock did not have any adjustment, or preload. The shock I purchased is a 280mm or about 11", 1200 lb. Haven't installed it to see if lowered bike. The new 280mm shock is adjustable. I ran out of time last night, will post when I get it installed. Hmmm the shim problem bothers me, as the way the new shock, the upper and lower mounts on the shock are manufactured. I am accustom to typical shock manufacturing, where the inner sleeve is mounted and pressed into rubber. This new shock mounts, are designed differently, however used by many on this site. I wonder if long term that will work. The steel mounts manufactured on the bike, are rigid enough, that they wont tighten or pinch together without the exact shim, to take up a tiny bit of side to side play. I hope I am making sense. In retrospect, I am not sure this is the best choice for a modification, as I have it all apart.

Now that I have the airbox torn out, I wonder if I should go to a different air filter directly to the carb, and gut the airbox. the airbox acts as a mud flap. 2lz here posted some pixs of what he did with the airbox. I don't want to get to crazy with modifications and have the bike not run right, especially when it is new and runs perfect, and am short of time for the next couple of weeks.

There are two hoses connected to airbox, and one of them I can let go into atmosphere. As of this post, I cant remember where the other hose needs to be connected to or goes to, or what I should do with it, if I gut the airbox. Hmmmm….
I wouldn't put a ton of thought into it. If it's only a little side to side movement on the shock, it will be just fine. The LAST thing you want to do is get it shimmed too tight so it won't want to pivot on the bolt. Since you have it apart, take the bolts to a hardware store and get some hardened bolts of the same size. May as well.....
A little side to side slop is fine. It's not like you'll be doing Evel Knievel moves and jumping buses. Slap the shock on there and let the Mrs. "test sit" to see if it's going to work for her and get it adjusted, before finalizing anything.

Regarding your airbox, you can either get the shock adjusted for her liking and then reinstall the air box, or do the "trash can mod" and run any pod filter that has a 42mm opening. Personally? I'd adjust the shock to what she likes and then reinstall the airbox.

[Megadan]

The stock shock looks like the exact same one as the Hawk unit, which is 12.5"/320mm. Going to 280mm is going to lower the rear quite a bit (about 4 inches roughly). As far as spacing the mounts. I measured the width of the top and bottom mounts on both shocks, subtracted the new from the old, divided by two, and ordered two spacers of each width for each side. I ordered mine from a website and they arrived pretty quickly.

Two 19mm OD, 10.2mm ID, 5mm Long for the upper mount. $1.53 each. http://www.aluminumspacers.com/spacers-by-metric-hole/10mm-hole/mas19-10-5

Two 19mm OD, 10.2mm ID, 10mm long for the lower. $1.77 each.
http://www.aluminumspacers.com/spacers-by-metric-hole/10mm-hole/mas19-10-10

If you wanted to you could make your own, or use a different material like steel. You can also likely find something at the Hardware store that would work and just needs cut down a bit. Shock pivots just fine and doesn't bind.

Air box I would leave to your discretion. You only need the airbox off long enough to set the preload to dial in the rider sag. Once you have that figured out, any of the options listed will do just fine. As far as a pod filter, any 43 or 44mm air filter will work on the carb if you want to go that route. Then you can either trash can mod it like 2LZ, or hack the airbox like I did and use it for mounting some additional electronic stuff and giving me a space to tuck the air filter into a bit with a silicon 45 for an intake tube. You can see how I cut the airbox here. https://youtu.be/JV_cvNAXlrM

You can see the electrical stuff I mentioned in this video. https://youtu.be/ukTYIJ7sxo8

[wedooit]

Thanks again Dan and 2LZ!!!!
I built spacers. Am going to order a couple of sets of Dan's posted spacers just to have on hand. Had to remove muffler, airbox, battery, battery support hangar. My hands and fingers I guess are too big, and could not get spacers into shock mounts. I over analyzed again if I should gut the airbox as in Dan's video, or 2LZ video. As per Dan's recommend, I reinstalled the OE airbox. I think in time, I will do something different. The 280mm shock made a heck of a difference, and the mrs. is now very pleased that the height accommodates her. I did keep the original shock in case we want to go back to original. Oh...I did set up the preload tension on the new shock about 3/4 inch. Also had to take about an inch out of the kick stand, just cut it out with a thin cut, didn't take the stand off the bike, and welded the tube back together as we have welding equipment.We took it for a ride on the county road, and some on our property. Rides and handles nice, and again the mrs is extremely happy!

On the airbox mod, I have some heavy plastic or whatever it is, that is real slippery and extremely durable, 1/4 thick I think, maybe 5/16, that came out of a walking floor spud trailer, that I could build a protection if I remove the airbox. I kinda like Dan's idea, tho'....

[wedooit]

I gotta see if I can get a better pix of spanner wrench!

[wedooit]

spanner wrench for shocks. part number snap on AHS304B

[2LZ]

Sounds great! Glad she likes the height.

[herbie]

If anyone needed a cheaper than snap on spanner wrench this is where I buy mine
https://www.mcmaster.com/spanner-wrenches

[wedooit]

Herbie,
cool resource guide!!!! Thanks!!!! I found one on ebay 19.00.

[wedooit]

UPDATE!!! Of course.....holy owl crap, keeping my verbiage to a minimum....still haven't put many miles on new bike as has been too busy. Of course, go figure, battery dead.....my fault!!!! BUT THEN....I lost the mco that was supposedly sent to me. So ordered another. I tried to register it with the dmv with the crappy mco copy that came with the bike...that didn't work. The lady was very kind to me at the dmv, and even took out a flashlight and looked for a water mark, on the mco enclosed. Then she said I have to have a notorized bill of sale. I was also told that when the deputy, came to do a vin inspection, didn't check all the boxes. MY FAULT as we talked more about guns and training, than doing a vin. There was another fellow here from Boise, ID, that registered his hawk, and had no problem. Bottom line....the dmv was kind and helpful, I seem to be losing my mind with potential old age, and where does time go. MRS told me the other day, we don't ride our bikes....true...we did a short camping trip last month while working, etc., but didn't take the bikes as I should have. Time....time slips away and not even time for time management. In Idaho it is easy to get an off road sticker, which we need anyways. SOOO bottom line, got to get a new battery, and am planning with my time management thots, soon to ride the mountains......get the deputy over for another vin, keep my mouth shut about guns and training, stick to biz, hound for the duplicate mco, check air pressure in tires and do a check, air up the trailer, check the hubs.....don't get me wrong as not complaining.....am jonesing to get out!!!!!....BUT WAIT there is more....we use our 2 place sled trailer only once in a great while, others borrow it....but wait...no license plate on it as fallen off, or got torn off.....typical for that type of trailer....no prob....my fault...did I notice it??? okokok back to the dmv today for a new plate for it, get an off road sticker.........just a comical adventure!!!!!! I just have to laugh, shake my head, I will drink a cold brew tonight and gather my thots.... AND we have great mountain riding just less than an hour away!!!!!!!!! Others on this site would die for chance at mountain ride.....and I am spinning my wheels

[wedooit]

Battery update.....i purchased YB7BB, will fit, terminals opposite. The original china battery has no cross that i could find.

[NzBrakelathes]

Wow, first ride, as the mrs. took the bms for a mile or two ride tonight, and then I followed suite. She liked her seat cut job. I didn't install new 280mm shock or remove the oe as of yet.

2lz said it would ride like a blender, while I was singing Margaritaville, but actually quite smooth. We were quite impressed!!!

2lz said above and I quote "The secret to being a successful China Rider is to keep reminding yourself how little you paid for it vs. how much fun and value you get out of it." Very true!!!!!

Cannot say how simple this machine or tool, or what ever a person wants to call it, actually is.

Ok YES this is clone between Hawk and Storm/XR150
My digital speedo will work with a little info

[wedooit]

Added Kenda tires 760, and heavy duty tubes. See also under a new thread, bms updates tires....

[wedooit]

Ordering fuel cap as what herbie suggested, and to be installed as per his post.

[OneLeggedRider]

Those Kenda Trakmasters are truly amazing, I even bought one for a buddy of mine in Florida and he loves it.

[McFailbutter]

And I keep keep begging for my set set of kenda's! Sure all I do is feed'm and occasionally bathe'm. Maybe it's only rag on the the end of a stick! But you guys don't know'm like I do. Or u wouldn't want to get any closer either.

[OneLeggedRider]

And I keep keep begging for my set set of kenda's! Sure all I do is feed'm and occasionally bathe'm. Maybe it's only rag on the the end of a stick! But you guys don't know'm like I do. Or u wouldn't want to get any closer either.

Hahaha! :lmao: I told ya, if you really want them Kendas all ya gotta do is spend a little time on the blanket.. :hehe: (a little inside joke about a blanket I put on the floor for my 2 lady friends to perform their wifely duties :lmao:)

[wedooit]

Hahaha! :lmao: I told ya, if you really want them Kendas all ya gotta do is spend a little time on the blanket.. :hehe: (a little inside joke about a blanket I put on the floor for my 2 lady friends to perform their wifely duties :lmao:)

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[wedooit]

Update my thoughts on the BMS.....
1. not a bad bike for the $ for an enduro.
2. runs good, performance ok, great grocery getter, fun!
3. suspension not bad, but acceptable.
3.off road? A little top heavy
4. gear ratio for off road? built as an enduro. I would rate it 90% on road and 10% off road, even with the Kenda tires installed.
5. Has it been a great starter bike? yes to get us back to riding.

Hope that gives my 3 cents, as I get older sometimes I dont have much cents!!!

[culcune]

Nice to see you around, again! Thanks for the update.