high lift cam for CG engines?

[alex_in_az]

does anyone make either a higher lift cam or higher ratio rocker arms for the CG engines? is it not possible due to the single lobe design?

[Wild Dog]

does anyone make either a higher lift cam or higher ratio rocker arms for the CG engines? is it not possible due to the single lobe design?

Yes they do make higher lift cam and higher ratio rocker arms for the CG engines. At least in South America

[alex_in_az]

Yes they do make higher lift cam and higher ratio rocker arms for the CG engines. At least in South America
any chance you could give me a link to a site? I can't seem to find any on a google search.

[franque]

I've looked into it too, the Brazilians seem to be the most into hot rodding them, and I tried to contact them on a site, with no luck. I looked at something like this: https://motos.mercadolivre.com.br/pecas-motor/comando-competicao-cg-vareta-a

[Weldangrind]

I suspect they're getting those parts from China. The trick would be to figure out if it's on Taobao.

[franque]

I think that they're cheap enough that we could potentially, at their discretion, have a member from South America - hint - maybe @Wild Dog ? Get some and send them Northwards?

[JerryHawk250]

I think that they're cheap enough that we could potentially, at their discretion, have a member from South America - hint - maybe @Wild Dog ? Get some and send them Northwards?

I like your thinking. :tup:

[bogieboy]

i second that sentiment... i wouldnt mind a 310 degree cam for my bike....LOL

[OneLeggedRider]

One of the best mods I did for my ATC 200X was a hot cam and exhaust, put out surprising amounts of power for a small displacement engine.

[JerryHawk250]

One of the best mods I did for my ATC 200X was a hot cam and exhaust, put out surprising amounts of power for a small displacement engine.

Same here with my 200x. :tup:I miss that bike.

[Wild Dog]

I suspect they're getting those parts from China. The trick would be to figure out if it's on Taobao.

It's a 50 / 50, some parts are from china/taiwan some made either in Argentina or Brazil.
When it comes to vehicle mfg in South America, Brazil is #1 then is Argentina. If we take Latin America, then it's Brazil, Mexico, Argentina.
Honda, Yamaha, Toyota did invest a lot of money in SA. Toyota mostly in 4 wheels vehicles, while Honda and Yamaha mostly in motorcycles.
So there are mfg that make custom parts from 0.
Also you have tuned china stuff.

For example, right now i'm starting to buff out my chonda.
-alloy rims, locally made, a bit better than the chinese ones and cheaper

-Big bore kit, is made in Taiwan but resold under an Argentinian brand, the gaskets are made here.

-New Springs for the front fork, national made for chondas with different spring rates.

-Handlebar with raiser Brazilian made.

-Silencer, national made cloned from fmf.

-Cam brazilian made.

-Alloy skid plate national made.


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I think that they're cheap enough that we could potentially, at their discretion, have a member from South America - hint - maybe @Wild Dog ? Get some and send them Northwards?
If you find something you like, tell me. With the current money change. Parts are very cheap for those who earns in USD, Euros...

Just to give you an idea. I paid 20 usd for the alloy skidplate

[OneLeggedRider]

Dammit man.. I need all those things, like yesterday!! :clap:

[OneLeggedRider]

Tako you need to get on this..

[2LZ]

I wonder if NZ would feel so inclined to chime in here.

[franque]

I was thinking something like this: https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-864541993-braco-oscilante-rolete-cg-125-wgk-competico-pareixovareta-_JM#position=1&type=item&tracking_id=29dbaedf-0b67-4ebb-adc2-43a2070f4660

And this: https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1209824154-ressalto-comando-titan-cg125-00-08-bravo-289-varetas-wgk-_JM#position=4&type=item&tracking_id=29dbaedf-0b67-4ebb-adc2-43a2070f4660

But I wouldn't need the pushrods.

[JerryHawk250]

The roller rocker arms can be found on Aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32822679247.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.390d2e0ebsZ Nnu

[bogieboy]

One of the best mods I did for my ATC 200X was a hot cam and exhaust, put out surprising amounts of power for a small displacement engine.

i second that with my 110cc pocket bike... put a hot cam and a mikuni vm26 clone on it, and i could go 67mph, gps confirmed.... thats asking a LOT for a 110, with my 270# arse on it....

[NzBrakelathes]

The roller rocker arms can be found on Aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32822679247.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.390d2e0ebsZ Nnu

But not for the CG250 - that is different in length

Nothing listed as CG250 rollers anywhere

[NzBrakelathes]

I was thinking something like this: https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-864541993-braco-oscilante-rolete-cg-125-wgk-competico-pareixovareta-_JM#position=1&type=item&tracking_id=29dbaedf-0b67-4ebb-adc2-43a2070f4660

And this: https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1209824154-ressalto-comando-titan-cg125-00-08-bravo-289-varetas-wgk-_JM#position=4&type=item&tracking_id=29dbaedf-0b67-4ebb-adc2-43a2070f4660

But I wouldn't need the pushrods.

CG125
Note CG250 differs

[NzBrakelathes]

I wonder if NZ would feel so inclined to chime in here.

I have lloked in China and see NOTHING, If I did find YOU BET it would be plastered all over the forums.

Sorry the Chinese boys DO NOT like CG motors and DO NOT hop them up or anything.
NC250 or 450 here for boys with some cash etc.

Trust me if I see stuff n I know it would sell I will be the fist to be spamming the forums.:yay:
:thanks:

[franque]

No worries, I've got a CG200 :tup:

[franque]

The roller rocker arms can be found on Aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32822679247.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.390d2e0ebsZ Nnu

The ones I posted look like they might be a tiny bit stronger and lighter.

[alex_in_az]

It's a 50 / 50, some parts are from china/taiwan some made either in Argentina or Brazil.
When it comes to vehicle mfg in South America, Brazil is #1 then is Argentina. If we take Latin America, then it's Brazil, Mexico, Argentina.
Honda, Yamaha, Toyota did invest a lot of money in SA. Toyota mostly in 4 wheels vehicles, while Honda and Yamaha mostly in motorcycles.
So there are mfg that make custom parts from 0.
Also you have tuned china stuff.

For example, right now i'm starting to buff out my chonda.
-alloy rims, locally made, a bit better than the chinese ones and cheaper

-Big bore kit, is made in Taiwan but resold under an Argentinian brand, the gaskets are made here.

-New Springs for the front fork, national made for chondas with different spring rates.

-Handlebar with raiser Brazilian made.

-Silencer, national made cloned from fmf.

-Cam brazilian made.

-Alloy skid plate national made.


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If you find something you like, tell me. With the current money change. Parts are very cheap for those who earns in USD, Euros...

Just to give you an idea. I paid 20 usd for the alloy skidplate
nice, what does the big bore kit take the motor to? I assume these parts are for the 229cc engine?

[Wild Dog]

I was thinking something like this: https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-864541993-braco-oscilante-rolete-cg-125-wgk-competico-pareixovareta-_JM#position=1&type=item&tracking_id=29dbaedf-0b67-4ebb-adc2-43a2070f4660

And this: https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1209824154-ressalto-comando-titan-cg125-00-08-bravo-289-varetas-wgk-_JM#position=4&type=item&tracking_id=29dbaedf-0b67-4ebb-adc2-43a2070f4660

But I wouldn't need the pushrods.

I have lloked in China and see NOTHING, If I did find YOU BET it would be plastered all over the forums.

Sorry the Chinese boys DO NOT like CG motors and DO NOT hop them up or anything.
NC250 or 450 here for boys with some cash etc.

Trust me if I see stuff n I know it would sell I will be the fist to be spamming the forums.:yay:
:thanks:
The NC250 the overbored 300cc and the 450cc. Are just taking off in this area, they were importes a few years ago but the reseller went nuts and for the rx3 wanted the same price that a Xre300.... So he went bankrupt fast...

[China Rider 27]

It's a 50 / 50, some parts are from china/taiwan some made either in Argentina or Brazil.
When it comes to vehicle mfg in South America, Brazil is #1 then is Argentina. If we take Latin America, then it's Brazil, Mexico, Argentina.
Honda, Yamaha, Toyota did invest a lot of money in SA. Toyota mostly in 4 wheels vehicles, while Honda and Yamaha mostly in motorcycles.
So there are mfg that make custom parts from 0.
Also you have tuned china stuff.

For example, right now i'm starting to buff out my chonda.
-alloy rims, locally made, a bit better than the chinese ones and cheaper

-Big bore kit, is made in Taiwan but resold under an Argentinian brand, the gaskets are made here.

-New Springs for the front fork, national made for chondas with different spring rates.

-Handlebar with raiser Brazilian made.

-Silencer, national made cloned from fmf.

-Cam brazilian made.

-Alloy skid plate national made.


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If you find something you like, tell me. With the current money change. Parts are very cheap for those who earns in USD, Euros...

Just to give you an idea. I paid 20 usd for the alloy skidplate

You list a cam in your upgrade parts, I assume for the 229cc CG? If this is a performance upgrade how can we buy it?

[Wild Dog]

You list a cam in your upgrade parts, I assume for the 229cc CG? If this is a performance upgrade how can we buy it?

Here

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-729342633-levas-de-motores-varillero-125-150-200-250-competicion-_JM?quantity=1#position=5&type=item&tracking_id=9492671e-1cfe-4219-af2b-df7ab5c11b37

This cams are for OHV CG, they made them for 125cc to 229cc.
There you can see some pictures of them, they are priced 2700 arg pesos, which translates to about 45 usd.
I got a Brazilian one instead of an Argentinian, just because they are cheaper.

[alex_in_az]

Here

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-729342633-levas-de-motores-varillero-125-150-200-250-competicion-_JM?quantity=1#position=5&type=item&tracking_id=9492671e-1cfe-4219-af2b-df7ab5c11b37

This cams are for OHV CG, they made them for 125cc to 229cc.
There you can see some pictures of them, they are priced 2700 arg pesos, which translates to about 45 usd.
I got a Brazilian one instead of an Argentinian, just because they are cheaper.
I wish I spoke Spanish

[JerryHawk250]

I wish I spoke Spanish

Just open the website in Google Chrome and translate.

[MDStroup]

Would really love to see what sort of cam and other upgrades we could get from South America. If we would need some sort of group buy to get it going i would jump in in a heart beat. A cam and big bore upgrade would be first on my list.

[franque]

If you've already got a CG250 (223), they don't make the big bore kit anymore, it was too unreliable. I think that the problem is that usually the mercado libre sellers don't want to sell overseas. Some of the cams look homemade on the Argentine site, too.

[alex_in_az]

Just open the website in Google Chrome and translate.
I did, but it's not a very good translation

[Wild Dog]

If you've already got a CG250 (223), they don't make the big bore kit anymore, it was too unreliable. I think that the problem is that usually the mercado libre sellers don't want to sell overseas. Some of the cams look homemade on the Argentine site, too.

Is not that they don't want to sell overseas, hell most of them would love to sell overseas, but they don't know other language or in most case if they more than "x" quantity of engines parts, then they are going to need to get special license to sell engines parts overseas which is $$$$.

Yes going to 70mm piston is going to make the engine a grenade

I did, but it's not a very good translation

I know,google translate sometimes sucks...
The seller is just explaining the different types of cams and what kind of setup you need to get the best performance.

For example:

"*** R500 ***- LEVA PARA PICADAS DE ALTO RENDIMIENTO! --(hundir asientos,CALAR PISTON, cambiar resortes,darle mas compresion y modificar puesta a punto)

6.95 ALZADA"
Picada is a slang in Argentina for a short straight races, it's a shorter version of 1/4 mile.
Hundir asiento: ported and decked head
Calar Piston: Piston Compression Height Reduction, other way piston will hit the valves
Puesta a punto: Fine tunning the ignition.
Cambiar resortes: Change valve springs

Most of these products are made in Cordoba a Province in Argentina that have a very nice landscapes for adventure riding, hunting (Benelli made a shotgun named after Cordoba Argentina), hiking.
So they love to mod vehicles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSFgKPEekHo

This is one the most popular places to ride there, is a nice area to go with the family and a have a nice day.

[China Rider 27]

Here

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-729342633-levas-de-motores-varillero-125-150-200-250-competicion-_JM?quantity=1#position=5&type=item&tracking_id=9492671e-1cfe-4219-af2b-df7ab5c11b37

This cams are for OHV CG, they made them for 125cc to 229cc.
There you can see some pictures of them, they are priced 2700 arg pesos, which translates to about 45 usd.
I got a Brazilian one instead of an Argentinian, just because they are cheaper.

When you do your camshaft you should take pictures and do a work up including specs and post a review. That is beautiful riding country!