View Full Version : A Street Legal Pit Bike!!
PhildoScaggins
09-27-2019, 12:01 PM
This is a huge deal for me! I've been wanting one for years.
https://www.orionpowersports.com/orion-rxb-125xl-street-legal-manual-pit-bike-free-shipping-fully-assembled-tested/
Time to finish the vader 190cc and buy one.
imapdog
09-27-2019, 12:33 PM
yes yes yes, awesome! my imagination is running wild.:yay:
Weldangrind
09-28-2019, 11:20 AM
I've also wanted one for years!
culcune
09-28-2019, 02:51 PM
These would make good bikes for those people asking about shorter learner dual-sport/enduro bikes for their wives or girlfriends. Of course, these aren't necessarily DOT certified for the street, and might not be as easy as plating even compared to Hawks, but for many, these will do the trick! Not to mention, for those who don't want a Grom or Grom-like-vehicle (GLV), and don't want the hassle of adding street equipment to a pit bike, these would make perfect minis. I could see myself with one of these vs. a Vader or KPMini for around town fun and/or buzzing around the desert in the parts that aren't beach-like sand (Yuma is quad country for the most part).
Dusman
09-28-2019, 05:50 PM
This is awesome! I’d love to have one especially if I could get it registered.
RedCrowRides
09-28-2019, 07:36 PM
I can easily see me building a SuperMoto out of that !
culcune
09-28-2019, 08:18 PM
I can easily see me building a SuperMoto out of that !
Would you keep the 14" wheel on the back and throw on a 14" up front to replace the 17", or try to go 17/17? I wonder if a 17" rear would clear? I am envisioning a poor-man's Kymco K-Pipe like bike with the 17/17 setup, if a 17 could fit on the rear.
RedCrowRides
09-29-2019, 12:14 AM
Ideally I'd shoot for the 17 " combo, but i wouldn't be adverse to the 14's on both ends .Coming from a Vader with 12" rims , either one would be an upgrade, one just more so than the other.
I'd love to find some cast wheels instead of spokes that could be made to fit , to get a real supermoto look , I think i might have to go poke around and see whats out there .
wlfpck
10-02-2019, 07:53 AM
YESSSSS!!!!! FINALLY!!!! I wanted the Braaap Superlite so bad.
Any idea what clone this bike is of? Like a CRF125?
Mini supermotard!!!!
PhildoScaggins
10-02-2019, 08:30 AM
YESSSSS!!!!! FINALLY!!!! I wanted the Braaap Superlite so bad.
Any idea what clone this bike is of? Like a CRF125?
Mini supermotard!!!!
It looks like a ktm copy kinda. the 250cc version seems to have some similarities as well.
wlfpck
10-03-2019, 10:03 AM
It looks like a ktm copy kinda. the 250cc version seems to have some similarities as well.
You order yours?
I'm actually thinking it may be a clone of this one? But with a 125cc 4-stroke.
https://www.ktm.com/us/mx/65-sx/
https://www.ktm.com/globalassets/products-pim-data/ke2-motorcycles/mx/2-stroke/65-sx3/65-sx-2020/f6001t6/pho_bike_90_re.png
PhildoScaggins
10-03-2019, 11:33 AM
You order yours?
I'm actually thinking it may be a clone of this one? But with a 125cc 4-stroke.
https://www.ktm.com/us/mx/65-sx/
I haven't. I have been super busy with my house, my zs190 grom clone is so close to being done and I haven't finished it. I'm going to throw it up for sale and once it sells I'll purchase. This is pretty much the bike I've been wanting since I got my first bike.
wlfpck
10-07-2019, 11:03 AM
I hear that.
I'm actually looking for an actual Grom. Been looking at the Grom SF's and some GromFatherZ parts.
But this... this bike... I want this for my no frills low maintenance, no computers, etc. bike.
There are several guys in the FB groups I'm on that have ordered these.
MDStroup
10-07-2019, 07:30 PM
I wonder how this bike preforms in its stock form versus it with the "performance" head and carb added.
PhildoScaggins
10-08-2019, 07:56 AM
I wonder how this bike preforms in its stock form versus it with the "performance" head and carb added.
I think the "performance headwork" is just installing the carb, nothing else. I'm sure it makes a huge difference, but installing a carb is pretty simple.
imapdog
10-13-2019, 01:12 PM
so, anyone here ordered one?
culcune
10-13-2019, 03:00 PM
There are several guys in the FB groups I'm on that have ordered these.
so, anyone here ordered one?
I wonder if his fellow FB group members have reported on these yet? I do recall the site stating they were out of stock but supposed to be back in stock and shipped by October 8th. For all its worth, check YouTube for any videos.
Barnone
10-13-2019, 03:23 PM
Think I would go for the 250 version. It appears to be the push rod 167fmm engine.
https://www.orionpowersports.com/orion-rxb-250l-street-legal-enduro-dirt-bike-free-shipping-fully-assembled-tested/
scoot newb
10-13-2019, 04:29 PM
Orion is not EPA certified. The bike comes with a sticker that says not for highway use. I imagine due to the low speed.
Dude in the clone groups got one and the speedometer sensor is placed in a position where it will not work.
https://imgur.com/o3vuYNG.jpg
Check it out
https://www.facebook.com/groups/954686174683032/permalink/1434714506680194/
culcune
10-13-2019, 05:17 PM
Orion is not EPA certified. The bike comes with a sticker that says not for highway use. I imagine due to the low speed.
Dude in the clone groups got one and the speedometer sensor is placed in a position where it will not work.
Thank you for the link! :tup: I did not go through the entire FB group thread, but did find this video of the bike idling which is better than no video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVDMzMkoCVI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2lVEz548LMNWZPZsePif_vNlU5gexqF-MkY6xB9g4sHyBRvDyn1tYcrvM
imapdog
10-13-2019, 06:24 PM
i like the simplicity of this. should be easy to tag in tennessee as motorcycle.
kickstart only is nice since carb options dont have a starter in the way if the starter would be on top.
exhaust, carb, fuel lines. ready to go. wonder if there is a bolt on option out there for exhaust
MDStroup
10-14-2019, 08:14 PM
I think the "performance headwork" is just installing the carb, nothing else. I'm sure it makes a huge difference, but installing a carb is pretty simple.
That would blow if that is all it is. I didn't even notice it said performance head "WORK", i thought it said performance head. Like maybe a 4 valve or something. Between this bike and the RXB-250L i am excited to pick one up. Leaning towards the 250, but the 125 seems to be the perfect candidate for a ZS190 swap.
Speaking about the ZS190, wasn't there supposed to be a factory bike like this coming with that motor from them, or did that get scrapped?
culcune
10-14-2019, 09:42 PM
Speaking about the ZS190, wasn't there supposed to be a factory bike like this coming with that motor from them, or did that get scrapped?
Was that Orion? If it was the Pitster GLV, Pitster just wrote back and said the ADV 190 is supposed to be available for sale in 2 months.
Indianaman
10-15-2019, 12:31 AM
That adv 190 looks like too much fun! 18hp out of that little bike? Very tempting and it looks great
culcune
10-15-2019, 01:18 AM
That adv 190 looks like too much fun! 18hp out of that little bike? Very tempting and it looks great
I watched a video put out by Motor Trend. It was one of their newer shows of two guys who are lifelong friends who test out motorcycles. They rode the new Honda Monkey 125 from Ensenada to La Paz in Baja California, Mexico, loosely following the route of the Baja 1000. The Monkey is not a full on dual sport, but they held their own. The ADV 190 is a lot like the Monkey, but on steroids. I am basing the 'steroids' on what people have reported on swapping the 190cc engine into other bikes, such as the Vader. I am guessing the fit and finish will be better than most since it is Pitster Pro. Heck, I am considering one of them for commuting and to tackle bits of the Arizona Peace Trail that are near me in Yuma.
MDStroup
10-15-2019, 12:56 PM
Was that Orion? If it was the Pitster GLV, Pitster just wrote back and said the ADV 190 is supposed to be available for sale in 2 months.
Then i am probably wrong. All i know is i am looking forward to that bike as it is a possibility.
MDStroup
10-15-2019, 12:58 PM
That adv 190 looks like too much fun! 18hp out of that little bike? Very tempting and it looks great
Wait, it is getting 18 HP stock? That is very impressive! Especially since that is stock and there are big bore kits, 4 valve heads, Cams, etc you can throw at it.
Now i am even more excited for that bike.
Indianaman
10-15-2019, 01:48 PM
That thing will rip considering the cg 250cc engines only make like 16hp (correct me if I'm wrong) and the adv 190 only weighs 221lbs, which is 50ish less pounds than the 250's.
scoot newb
10-15-2019, 01:51 PM
Wait, it is getting 18 HP stock? That is very impressive! Especially since that is stock and there are big bore kits, 4 valve heads, Cams, etc you can throw at it.
Now i am even more excited for that bike.
The pitster pro with the 190 gets 18HP stock. It is like a grom clone with a ZS 190.
The orion bike is 8 or something.
MDStroup
10-15-2019, 01:52 PM
That thing will rip considering the cg 250cc engines only make like 16hp (correct me if I'm wrong) and the adv 190 only weighs 221lbs, which is 50ish less pounds than the 250's.
So many high quality options coming out! I m kinda glad that i didn't jump at the Hawk when it first came out. While the price was amazing and have been kinda kicking myself ever since for not getting one in the beginning. I think these newer model are worth the price increase. Especially the RXB-250L. That is my current favorite, but the adv 190 is a very close second.
imapdog
10-15-2019, 04:06 PM
a good friend of mine unexpectedly gave me .5% commission referral bonus on a house i sent his way to sell. we were talking other day about motorcycles we used to have and especially my situation of dr bills ridding my assets. well he ordered me one with that referral bonus in my sons name so i dont have to report it. somehow someway i will keep riding!!!!!;)
i have the extra carbs fuel lines and jets on hand for the mod...
orion said supermoto wheels and tires option is coming this week or next....
i know what my xmas list wil be.....158lbs dry weight.....should be fun street legal pit bike.....i will start new thread once delivered. said shipping today....
18894
PhildoScaggins
10-16-2019, 01:02 PM
i will start new thread once delivered. said shipping today....
18894
Awesome! I envy you. Cant wait to hear how it works out!
JerryHawk250
10-16-2019, 01:13 PM
Man, that is awesome! :tup: Make sure you ride up and down in front of the X's house a few time with it. :p
imapdog
10-16-2019, 02:14 PM
Man, that is awesome! :tup: Make sure you ride up and down in front of the X's house a few time with it. :p
if my son didnt live there id ride it over there 3am before i plated it and turned her water meter off and fill it up with quick-crete. like a boss>:
if this super moto wheel tire combo rumor is true, look out!
this here parent? sorry for the hijacking this thread..i am vented now...carry on....
culcune
10-17-2019, 08:48 AM
Looks like you will be grinning ear to ear in no time! What size are the supermoto wheel option?
imapdog
10-17-2019, 10:35 AM
Looks like you will be grinning ear to ear in no time! What size are the supermoto wheel option?
i just asked orion in fb messenger, very helpful/knowledgeable for any questions btw.... they say they only have the street tires for the stock spoke wheels 14/17.:tdown: they also said the supermoto(tard) setup for this bike is in the works and 14/14 is the goal but no eta as of yet. :)
culcune
10-17-2019, 09:28 PM
I can easily see me building a SuperMoto out of that !
Would you keep the 14" wheel on the back and throw on a 14" up front to replace the 17", or try to go 17/17?
Ideally I'd shoot for the 17 " combo, but i wouldn't be adverse to the 14's on both ends .Coming from a Vader with 12" rims , either one would be an upgrade, one just more so than the other.
14/14 will be the magic number
imapdog
10-18-2019, 10:02 AM
delivery is monday oct 21st. hopefully a.m. hours so i can assemble, if not it'll be the following weekend. rain is in the forecast monday :shrug: i would have to drive to terminal to pick it up earlier.....my baybee is sitting all alone already in the cold terminal.....just a 45 min drive one way.....the tracing for the shipping updates is awesome! i get text alert at every scan on the route with lat long coordinates....coolest tracking i have seen so far!
update:
i talked myself in picking it up tonight... i cant leave my babe all alone over the weekend....
seriously though, its gonna rain/thunderstorm all day monday and i have no cover at my townhome for delivery and setup.
Indianaman
10-18-2019, 05:06 PM
Please post lots of pics and give us your impressions of the bike when you get it put together
scoot newb
10-18-2019, 09:42 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/342544250027687/permalink/401863930762385/
wingnut1989
10-29-2019, 11:06 PM
awesome, but i think i will wait til they just come with sumo wheels
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