VIBRATION FIXED !!!!!!

PROBLEM SOLVED

The top engine bolt was not tight. We took the bottom big bolt in the back out...I snugged it down as tight as I felt comfortable with and then when I went to remove the top one, it was far easier than the bottom to remove. I replaced it and snugged it down as tight as I could and guess what...the vibration gone. The bike is back to the way it was when I bought it.

I still plan to do the locktite treatment but time was short today and I was lucky to get help when I did.

Now of course I feel like a total jerk and a complete moron.

I pissed and moaned and groaned and it was just a loose bolt. I was sure they were all tight but I guess I couldnt get them tight enough by myself while reaching over the bike and ratcheting. with me and gene both on it, we got those bolts really snug.

I also posted on the AL site so that there would be complete disclosure on this issue.

I rode the bike 30 miles after tightening the bolts and all is well.

this is humiliating and i really had to push myself to make this post.

[knothead]

When frustration sets in, sometimes the whole world goes to heck in a handbasket.

A friend of mine was working on his Dautsun B-210 (years ago), it was a nice little car, but he got mad because he couldn't get new brake shoes on the rear. What did he do? He first took a sledge hammer and totally smashed all the windows and ALL of the bodywork, then he set the whole car on fire. Later he found out that the parts store had given him shoes from a Dautsun 510.
Normally the guy was soft spoken and really mild mannered, but he was frustrated and under pressure to get the car on the road as it was the only thing his family had to get around in.

In your case. You buy a new bike and then get nowhere with the dealer (who really should know what to look for). Yeah, I can see the frustration getting amplified by doubt (doubt about buying the bike to begin with). The upshot is, now you know what the vibes were caused by. The next thing that goes wrong you'll probably remain calmer.

[culcune]

OK, and the dealer couldn't fix this? You are not a total idiot--your dealer is!

My vibrations ended up with total transmission failure of some sort (usmc_mustang can now try to figure that POS out--I suckered him into buying the carcass, ha ha sucker :lol: :lol: --ok, he got a deal on parts)

[TeamCheap]

Well thats great news.

[ejcycles]

Hey Zapkin

Well Congratulations!!!!!!!! I'm glad for you!!! :)
I'm glad you found the problem!
Don't feel bad, we all miss things... we are Human... Not machines.
Good Luck and Keep the Rubber Side Down!

[Savage]

You mean the top bolt up by the pitcock/gas tank area?
Now you, like me, know where your problem stems from, but it will return before took long. You'll need to remove them and replace with the larger bolts or do the silicone trick like I have. At least you're happy to know where to target now.

[walkingdude]

Great mystery thread!!!! Multiple lessons for all. Congrats.

[kczukiman]

Yahoo all is good in the Ohio valley :D

[Cal25]

Glad you solved the mystery. Even better, it was a fix that did'nt envolve cash!

Savage..it is the top of the two big bolts on the back of the motor. The bottom one is near the footpeg the large bolt above that is the one that was loose. Would coating the bolts with high temp silicon stuff and then locktiting the threads be a good idea?

[AZ200cc]

I've never known a human being to make a mistake before....Oh well first time for everything I suppose.

[Savage]

YES!

I tried to get that long bolt from Fastenal but the longest they had was 8". I measured mine at 8.5"

[SamM]

Way to go! How did they miss that? I'll tell you how! Jerry must have been working on it! :roll:

I have all the bolts for the rear shock linkage. PM me your address and they are your's. You'll have to wait until I get home. I'm on vacation right now.

SamM

I don't think they took me seriously when I told them there was a vibration. I mean, I know all engines vibrate but I don't think they took the degree to which it was vibrating seriously. Also, if they did not take the bike for a ride long enough to warm it up good, the vibration would have been less noticible. I assume the expansion of the engine reduced clearances or something and caused it to vibrate more. All I know for sure is that the bike is okay now and I have plans locktite them this weekend. I think i am gonna coat them with that high temp silicon too.

[Savage]

Cram it in the hole on both sides. :D

my ex wife said no but maybe the bike will be more compliant. 8O

will do. :lol:

[culcune]

I love those "that's what she said..." jokes :lol: :lol:

OK, back to the topic

[Savage]

"That's what she said" ~Michael Scott :lol:

[warrior91]

Cram it in the hole on both sides. :D
Thats what my wifey says. LOL

[warrior91]

PROBLEM SOLVED

The top engine bolt was not tight. The bike is back to the way it was when I bought it.


Now of course I feel like a total jerk and a complete moron.

I pissed and moaned and groaned and it was just a loose bolt. I was sure they were all tight but I guess I couldnt get them tight enough by myself while reaching over the bike and ratcheting. with me and gene both on it, we got those bolts really snug.

I also posted on the AL site so that there would be complete disclosure on this issue.

I rode the bike 30 miles after tightening the bolts and all is well.

this is humiliating and i really had to push myself to make this post.
Hey bud are you a certified Motorcycle Mechanic...no ...well neither are your mechanics at the dealer apparently...sprockets change=motor mount bolt??? They just wanted to do SOMETHING VISIBLE to keep you from bugging them. I had dealings with a stealership like that ...(YAM/AC) and needless to say they lasted for about 5 years before they were forced to closed their doors.( sad thing is my fat uncle owned a 1/3 and they still tried to do me up the azz without so much as a kiss) ((ask me about st/dealerships and their inner workings))!
Mabey they should read China riders in order to understand propper Moto Mech.... Like how many times was "tighten motor mounts" mentioned?
Word!

[red2003]

Now go get the smaller rear sprocket back from the dealer so your not spinning the engine 9000 rpm to go 50 mph!

red it runs about 7000 rpm to go 50 mph..which feels kind of wound out although i've had it up to 55 @ about 7500 or so. It would go higher if I pushed it but I don't want to damage the motor and the redline on the tach has to be wrong.

[katoranger]

Sounds like they put a 56T sprocket back on there. You need to go get your sprocket back.

Allen

I did receive an email back from them yesterday that said they were going to make sure the engine bolts were torqued down on the bikes from then on. So in the long run my problems might just have helped someone who comes down the line.

I did think about getting my smaller sprocket back, I may cruise over this weekend and see about that. Thing is soon I am going to go with the 42 from Bruce. But I have to say that I will definitely miss the low end power which makes merging onto the highway a lot easier. Just hate to have to run 7500 rpms to do 55.