Orion rxb 150xl arrived today

[ss27gogeta]

I got my rxb 150xl today and I must say this thing is really nice. It has idle issues out of the box I had to let it warm up for several minutes to get it to idle off choke. It has a nice sounding exhaust it sounds really mean for the size engine it has. At 5'6 200lbs I'm on my tippy toes on both sides to give you an idea of its height if your a shorter rider like me this bike will fit you well. the suspension is very stiff way better than my xpect it hardly sank when I sat on it the seat though is like sitting on a board very hard. I did take it for a quick spin it was a little wet out been raining on and off all day so did not ride it long. This thing is a BEAST I hardly hit the throttle and it was doing wheelies was also wanting to spin the tire a lot that was fun. I cant immagin what it will be like with jets and it broken in let alone with a 190.

[Goob]

Yours was packaged just like mine. Now get those decal protectors off!

I had to turn the idle screw in about 1 turn to get mine to idle at about 2500 rpm. Still likes to die if I go lower. Hoping some carb adjustments will take care of this.

Was finally able to spin around the block like you did. I could tell if I goosed it I would easily wheelie. I am 6ft and I can sit on it flat foot, pretty much the same as my TT250.

So glad folks filled me in on using the foot brake when starting....much better!

PS...your garage looks just like mine!

[Savageman69]

2500 is a pretty high idle speed. Might wanna make sure your throttle cable seated into the carburetor and throttle slack is set right on the handlebar. Pretty cool looking bike comes with an oil cooler also? How much torque does that bike have and how much did you pay for it. never seen a pit bike like that with that style motor on it before.

[ss27gogeta]

Yours was packaged just like mine. Now get those decal protectors off!

I had to turn the idle screw in about 1 turn to get mine to idle at about 2500 rpm. Still likes to die if I go lower. Hoping some carb adjustments will take care of this.

Was finally able to spin around the block like you did. I could tell if I goosed it I would easily wheelie. I am 6ft and I can sit on it flat foot, pretty much the same as my TT250.

So glad folks filled me in on using the foot brake when starting....much better!

PS...your garage looks just like mine!

I would have got the decals off but have the flue so I just got it off the crate and ran it around the block and in the garage it went. And yes the garage is quite messy I don't keep it straigh in the winter I just took stuff in don't like being in the cold all that much.

[Goob]

I would have got the decals off but have the flue so I just got it off the crate and ran it around the block and in the garage it went. And yes the garage is quite messy I don't keep it straigh in the winter I just took stuff in don't like being in the cold all that much.

Removing the decal covers is tedious, so not such a good task with the flu.

That was a compliment on the garage...you look like you have plenty of space for the bike! I was noting the various tools, and pretty much the same floor. I had mine loaded on one side until I had to clear stuff for my TT250 in November. Then a 2nd round of clean out for the RXB150. The hobby has some nice side benefits.

Now that it is nearly cleared out I hope to fix some floor cracks, level it out a bit, and put in interlocking "rubber" floor tiles this summer. I was looking at new cement or asphalt, but both would approach $3K. The tiles are just over $1000 for 400sf.

Hope you get better. The flu going around this year really sucks.

[Goob]

2500 is a pretty high idle speed. Might wanna make sure your throttle cable seated into the carburetor and throttle slack is set right on the handlebar. Pretty cool looking bike comes with an oil cooler also? How much torque does that bike have and how much did you pay for it. never seen a pit bike like that with that style motor on it before.

I am going to adjust the pilot fuel screw, which may be set really lean. Hopefully that will make it so I can adjust the idle screw to bring he revs down.

Not sure about the torque, HP is said to be 13.75. It was $1389, assembled and delivered. Orionpowerrsports.com The engine is a pretty common one. Honda knockoff I think (at least the Zongshen version that comes on some bikes is).

[ss27gogeta]

Removing the decal covers is tedious, so not such a good task with the flu.

That was a compliment on the garage...you look like you have plenty of space for the bike! I was noting the various tools, and pretty much the same floor. I had mine loaded on one side until I had to clear stuff for my TT250 in November. Then a 2nd round of clean out for the RXB150. The hobby has some nice side benefits.

Now that it is nearly cleared out I hope to fix some floor cracks, level it out a bit, and put in interlocking "rubber" floor tiles this summer. I was looking at new cement or asphalt, but both would approach $3K. The tiles are just over $1000 for 400sf.

Hope you get better. The flu going around this year really sucks.

I'm quickly running out of space though. I think I need a bigger garage I told my wife when we bought the house the garage was not big enough. My floor also has some decent cracks in it thought about getting it redone for a lift but think I'll hold off. we only plan on living in town a couple more years then were moving to the country I can't stand the city lol.

[ss27gogeta]

I am going to adjust the pilot fuel screw, which may be set really lean. Hopefully that will make it so I can adjust the idle screw to bring he revs down.

Not sure about the torque, HP is said to be 13.75. It was $1389, assembled and delivered. Orionpowerrsports.com The engine is a pretty common one. Honda knockoff I think (at least the Zongshen version that comes on some bikes is).

I've been doing some reading on the yx engines. and they seem to be a very close copy of the kawasaki klx 110 engines from the info I have gathered.

[PhildoScaggins]

I'm ordering mine next week. cant wait.

[ss27gogeta]

I'm ordering mine next week. cant wait.

Order a jet kit to the bike ships to lean to reliably run off choke it surges and dies off choke. Plug will not be gaped right either. I gaped mine at 45 thou. It comes at 25 thou.

[NzBrakelathes]

Order a jet kit to the bike ships to lean to reliably run off choke it surges and dies off choke. Plug will not be gaped right either. I gaped mine at 45 thou. It comes at 25 thou.

Plug gap should be 0.07-8 mm so around 30thou

[ss27gogeta]

Plug gap should be 0.07-8 mm so around 30thou

Sorry I looked it up and that's what I found people were saying for the yx 150 I'll fix it tomarow.

[Goob]

I'm quickly running out of space though. I think I need a bigger garage I told my wife when we bought the house the garage was not big enough. My floor also has some decent cracks in it thought about getting it redone for a lift but think I'll hold off. we only plan on living in town a couple more years then were moving to the country I can't stand the city lol.

Though it is not technically a shop, we built what we call "The Studio" next to our garage. It is really just a garage, but with the 16' door opening filled in with patio sliders that face the yard.

It is 20x30, 2x6 walls, insulated, drywalled, skylights, heated (3 $50 oil filled electric radiators) and air-conditioned (window unit). Total cost was about $30K, but it was worth it. About what most people spend on a car.

Our family does all sorts of projects in there. My son and I reworked his DT100, he built his custom bicycle, we got a cheap projector and watch movies on the "big screen" wall (projects about 4 x 7), sewing projects, art projects, kids parties (noise is out of the house), etc.

[Goob]

Order a jet kit to the bike ships to lean to reliably run off choke it surges and dies off choke. Plug will not be gaped right either. I gaped mine at 45 thou. It comes at 25 thou.

I contacted Orion and they don't sell jets. Where will you get yours? I am still trying to identify exactly what Mikuni model it is.

Some places show it as a PZ26 and also have it cross referenced as a Keihin PD. The exact carb in the URL below is listed as a VM26, but this is clearly not a Mikuni VM carb.

https://www.scooterpartscatalog.com/mikuni-vm26-perform-carburetor-114-20.html

I took it off tonight and turned out the Pilot Fuel Jet screw (under the manifold at the front of the carb) to richen it up since I couldn't get a good idle. It helped significantly. Will turn out a bit more tomorrow.

The thing that is a pain is that you have to remove the carb to get to this screw. I am going to look for some sort of specialty screw driver (thumb driver) that will work without carb removal.

The tuning instructions I have say if you have to turn this out more than 2 turns from closed stop, then you need a larger pilot jet. Hoping I don't have to do that.

UPDATE: Found the jets. You can get them from SSR:

http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/accessories/jets/160_carb_jets.php

[Goob]

Plug gap should be 0.07-8 mm so around 30thou

I think you got the mm off by a decimal place. 24 Thou = 0.60 and .028 Thou = 0.70 mm.

This is the range that SSR recommends for their pit bikes. I am going to set mine at 0.70 mm.

[Goob]

Hello,

While going thru my bike I found a few things that anyone who either has one of these or is going to order may want to know.

1) The bracket with the "positioning" pins at the bottom of the headlight housing had been mounted upside down, so the pins didn't fit into the holes in the top of the fender. Flopped it around, so now the bottom of the housing is secure.

2) The wiring under the headlight is a tangled mess. There were several potential pinch points because of hanging wires or connectors. I got all of the wire under the headlight under control with wire ties.

3) The starter wire (hot) is run right around the front of the skid plate and touches the relatively sharp edge of the skid plate. Of course there is a break in the plastic tube shroud right there, so the red insulation of the wire is exposed. I found this later in the day and will do something to protect the wire tomorrow.

4) There is a loose green wire with a "pin" on it (see attached photo) that looks like it should go into one of the Multi-Prong Connectors (MPC's) near it. Being green I figure it is a ground. Everything seems to work OK, so I taped it off. May try to trace it out tomorrow.

[ss27gogeta]

Got my mco yeasterday this is what it looks like it dose say motorcycle on it.

[Goob]

Got my mco yeasterday this is what it looks like it dose say motorcycle on it.

GVW of 359 lbs....so any one who plans to buy one who is over 199 lbs needs to go on a diet!

[ss27gogeta]

Just went to the DMV the verdict is if you live in Indiana your good to go they just need to do a vin check and they gave me my plate just need to get the carb dialed in and I'll be taring up the street.

[PhildoScaggins]

Still waiting on mine to ship :( ordered on the third with pro setup. they said it might ship today, but feel like I'm getting the run around. I guess their techs were out sick last week. hope my longing and fussing for my bike hasn't put any pressure for someone who should stay home to come in. granted, it's hot in TX. Don't know how anyone south of New England survives down there.

[PhildoScaggins]

Update: My bike has shipped. Finally. They express shipped it, it should be here Monday. Takin' foreverrrr.

[ss27gogeta]

Update: My bike has shipped. Finally. They express shipped it, it should be here Monday. Takin' foreverrrr.

That's crazy it took them this long to ship it I had mine in 7 days.

[PhildoScaggins]

That's crazy it took them this long to ship it I had mine in 7 days.

They had techs out sick. Got backed up. Checked XPO logistics, it was supposed to arrive today, now it seems to be stuck in PA. Ughhh. Oh well, were supposed to get shit weather here all week anyways. A foot of snow tonight?! I guess if it comes tomorrow I will have plenty of time to get it all loctited up. They already did the pro prep.

[Goob]

ss27gogetta,

When I was re-working my rear fender/taillight (to add a license plate location), I noticed that the wire "feed" back to the taillight & turn signals (it is wrapped in plastic flex tube) was pinched between the frame and the seat. It was totally flattened out and would surely pinch the wires thin after a bit of riding.

I pulled it back and routed it on the outside under the side cover and back into the small wire area where the connectors resided. This sets up the plugs facing to the right of the bike and if you pull the taillight and turn signal pigtails thru the right side (rather than the left like they had them) everything lines up very nicely.

There is also a rubber boot to pull down over the connectors.

When mine was delivered the whole bundle of connections was hanging out under the rear fender, exposed to tire mud and water. I had moved it back into the wire area, with the pigtails going thru on the left side (as they had), but didn't notice the pinching or the rubber boot at that time.

[PhildoScaggins]

XPO logistics called today... to ask what state I am in>:(. apparently they had a PA address. so I confirmed my address is in MAINE, and it should be here thursday. that would make it 23 days from when I ordered. maybe the foot of snow we got last night will be gone by then.

[ss27gogeta]

ss27gogetta,

When I was re-working my rear fender/taillight (to add a license plate location), I noticed that the wire "feed" back to the taillight & turn signals (it is wrapped in plastic flex tube) was pinched between the frame and the seat. It was totally flattened out and would surely pinch the wires thin after a bit of riding.

I pulled it back and routed it on the outside under the side cover and back into the small wire area where the connectors resided. This sets up the plugs facing to the right of the bike and if you pull the taillight and turn signal pigtails thru the right side (rather than the left like they had them) everything lines up very nicely.

There is also a rubber boot to pull down over the connectors.

When mine was delivered the whole bundle of connections was hanging out under the rear fender, exposed to tire mud and water. I had moved it back into the wire area, with the pigtails going thru on the left side (as they had), but didn't notice the pinching or the rubber boot at that time.

Thanks for the tips I'll be going through it and fixing all the little stuff now that I've got it running half way decent. My next planed upgrades are a pro taper bar cables and throttle. Dose your stock throttle feel like it about to brake at any moment mine dose hope the pro taper is nicer.

[ss27gogeta]

XPO logistics called today... to ask what state I am in>:(. apparently they had a PA address. so I confirmed my address is in MAINE, and it should be here thursday. that would make it 23 days from when I ordered. maybe the foot of snow we got last night will be gone by then.

Ive read that it not unusual for xpo to lose stuff or get stuff mixed up. they have quite a few bad reviews. I guess I was one of the lucky ones and had a good experience sorry to hear that your having trouble. But the bike is worth the wait it's an awsume little bike.

[Goob]

Thanks for the tips I'll be going through it and fixing all the little stuff now that I've got it running half way decent. My next planed upgrades are a pro taper bar cables and throttle. Dose your stock throttle feel like it about to brake at any moment mine dose hope the pro taper is nicer.

My throttle seems OK. I have a total of about 8 miles on it, so we'll see.

If you go back to my post with the list of stuff...#4 is the unconnected plug in the harness. Orion told me this is just an unused plug on this bike and to tape it off, which I already had.

If you ever have any lights go out, then try pushing the connections tighter. When I re-assembled one of the rear turn signals didn't work and I just pushed (it was already all the way in) and turned it a bit and it came back on.

[Goob]

Ive read that it not unusual for xpo to lose stuff or get stuff mixed up. they have quite a few bad reviews. I guess I was one of the lucky ones and had a good experience sorry to hear that your having trouble. But the bike is worth the wait it's an awsume little bike.

I got my MCO and it has the main text printed VERY lightly and at first it appeared that there was no Company Name and Signature at the bottom right. I had to put it under a bright light and it was a stamp. No "wet signature, but one in Chinese.

Hope my DMV doesn't have an issue with it.

I contacted Orion about this, and am waiting to see what they say.

[Goob]

I got my MCO and it has the main text printed VERY lightly and at first it appeared that there was no Company Name and Signature at the bottom right. I had to put it under a bright light and it was a stamp. No "wet signature, but one in Chinese.

Hope my DMV doesn't have an issue with it.

I contacted Orion about this, and am waiting to see what they say.

Here is a photo...

[ss27gogeta]

Here is a photo...

Thats odd my mco was filled out nicely. It almost looks like they sent you a blank mco. I don't see any text at the top. Did you get the notary service.

[Goob]

Thats odd my mco was filled out nicely. It almost looks like they sent you a blank mco. I don't see any text at the top. Did you get the notary service.

I didn't know there was a Notary service. What does that do? I just filled out the request on-line. They did sign and put their dealer # on the back.

The text on the top is actually darker than the company name and signature. You just can't tell from my crappy photo. I couldn't get the lighting right.

[ss27gogeta]

I didn't know there was a Notary service. What does that do? I just filled out the request on-line. They did sign and put their dealer # on the back.

The text on the top is actually darker than the company name and signature. You just can't tell from my crappy photo. I couldn't get the lighting right.


You can select the option in there web site it's $10 and the will notarize your no some states require it for mco's/titles out of state. If the top half is legible and they singed it on the back you should be fine.

[ss27gogeta]

It was a nice day so took the rxb out for its first 20mile spin. Bike runs grate I swaped in a 175 main since the 190 was a little rich idles at 1700-1800 now. The speedometer is way off like 15-20mph speedometer said 80mph GPS said I went 60mph. I was at 10k rpm at 60 with a little left I think it will do 65 maxed out but want to put a few more miles on it before I do that. I'm debating on weather to keep the stock sprocket s or change to a 17t front since it goes fast enough to go on any of the roads around here.

[Goob]

It was a nice day so took the rxb out for its first 20mile spin. Bike runs grate I swaped in a 175 main since the 190 was a little rich idles at 1700-1800 now. The speedometer is way off like 15-20mph speedometer said 80mph GPS said I went 60mph. I was at 10k rpm at 60 with a little left I think it will do 65 maxed out but want to put a few more miles on it before I do that. I'm debating on weather to keep the stock sprocket s or change to a 17t front since it goes fast enough to go on any of the roads around here.
My speedo is way off too...it bounces up and down. Must be a really cheap pickup.

[ss27gogeta]

My speedo is way off too...it bounces up and down. Must be a really cheap pickup.

As far off as it is I would like to find a way to make it more accurate since its so far off.

[PhildoScaggins]

It was a nice day so took the rxb out for its first 20mile spin. Bike runs grate I swaped in a 175 main since the 190 was a little rich idles at 1700-1800 now. The speedometer is way off like 15-20mph speedometer said 80mph GPS said I went 60mph. I was at 10k rpm at 60 with a little left I think it will do 65 maxed out but want to put a few more miles on it before I do that. I'm debating on weather to keep the stock sprocket s or change to a 17t front since it goes fast enough to go on any of the roads around here.


thats pretty damn good for speed! Thats really as fast as I like going anyways. My radian 600 i find myself speeding wayyyy to much. My bike is in my state as of 3am. hopefully it will come today. I have a four day weekend so it better.

[JerryHawk250]

If it's a digital speedometer you can calibrate it with the SpeedoDRD U1 from 12 o'clock lab. You can save a few bucks if you buy it on ebay. I got mine for $63. https://www.ebay.com/itm/SpeedoDRD-U1-DO-NOT-RELIST/301141666436?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

[ss27gogeta]

thats pretty damn good for speed! Thats really as fast as I like going anyways. My radian 600 i find myself speeding wayyyy to much. My bike is in my state as of 3am. hopefully it will come today. I have a four day weekend so it better.

I know I'm suprised how fast it goes for only a 150cc and it gets there pretty quick to. It must be geard completely different than the rxb125 I think some one said there 125 would only go about 50mph. And fyi you will probably be a cop magnet when your riding it around depending on were you live. I got pulled over yeasterday be cause the cop thought I was riding a dirt bike around also was apperently doing 50 in a 30 but after verifying it was street legal he was cool and let me go.

If it's a digital speedometer you can calibrate it with the SpeedoDRD U1 from 12 o'clock lab. You can save a few bucks if you buy it on ebay. I got mine for $63. https://www.ebay.com/itm/SpeedoDRD-U1-DO-NOT-RELIST/301141666436?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Thanks seems they are all out on eBay looks like I'll have to place and order with the manufacture tonight.

[JerryHawk250]

They're still available. Pay no mind to the name brand bikes that it list. The U1 is a universal unit. https://www.ebay.com/itm/SUZUKI-2014-V-STROM-DL1000-SpeedoDRD-U1-SPEEDOMETER-SPEEDO-CALIBRATOR/272280322763?hash=item3f652c02cb:g:oJQAAOSw5R5dQa6 x

[PhildoScaggins]

It finally came in. Not very pleased, but I got kinda lucky and nothing was broken. The bike was not even attached to the pallet and was leaning over when the truck opened its doors.


Everything seemed to be fine, no cracks in the plastic etc. I got the pro setup. On my test drive of less than five miles my exhaust fell off. I know that china bikes need thorough locktite and stuff to get them up to snuff, but I lost both exhaust nuts on the street. I feel that could be a lawsuit for these guys. Even my vader that was dropshipped had better tightness of bolts. I also received no paperwork whatsoever. I dont really need it in Maine but still. I will upload pictures as soon as I can recover my imgur account.

[Goob]

It finally came in. Not very pleased, but I got kinda lucky and nothing was broken. The bike was not even attached to the pallet and was leaning over when the truck opened its doors.


Everything seemed to be fine, no cracks in the plastic etc. I got the pro setup. On my test drive of less than five miles my exhaust fell off. I know that china bikes need thorough locktite and stuff to get them up to snuff, but I lost both exhaust nuts on the street. I feel that could be a lawsuit for these guys. Even my vader that was dropshipped had better tightness of bolts. I also received no paperwork whatsoever. I dont really need it in Maine but still. I will upload pictures as soon as I can recover my imgur account.

That's too bad about the problems. Mine was very secure with bolts going thru the foot rests, the front and rear tires secured with large zip ties to the crate, the front brake lever zip tied, and the whole thing surrounded by pieces of the shipping box the wrapped in heavy plastic.

I haven't had any loose screws or bolts. What I did have was just sloppy assembly:

* mis-routed wiring (the taillight wires ran between the seat and the frame and were crushed/pinched),

* taillight/turn signal connectors hanging out under the rear fender on the left side

(I solved these first two problems by moving the harness and plug-ins to the outside of the frame under the left side cover and into the wiring box under the seat..this makes it so the plug-ins face the right side of the bike. The plug-ins from the lights then route thru the right side into the wiring box and line right up.)

* wiring balled up in a mess behind the headlight (cut their zip ties, disconnected a few things, un-balled the wire, made it neat, re-zip tied),

* headlight lower bracket upside down so it didn't fit in the pin-locators on the front fender (turned the bracket over so the pins face down and now fit into the "holes" on the fender),

* starter hot wire touching the skid-plate which was a short waiting to happen when the insulation wore thru (cut a couple of zip ties, got some slack, secured the hot wire to the small bracket for the carb fuel drain, and pulled the hot wire away from the skid plate and put a rubber grommet around it just for sure),

* ignition coil rotated down so that it blocks access to remove the carb (loosened bolt, rotated up)

* The horn rubbed on the front fender, no matter how much I tried to bend back. Limited space because of the oil cooler (Not everyone will want may cure. Since I got rid of my front plastics all together for easier/faster engine & carb access, I moved the horn to the empty bolt location on the left bottom of the fuel tank.. Cut off the plastics mounting bracket that was sticking out..just kept the part that holds the oil cooler).

* I was told by Orion via e-mail that it came with a license plate light. Well no light or bracket. (I used a fender and light from Rocky Mountain ATV that my son didn't use for his XR250 and replaced the stock light and fender. Bought a bracket on Ebay).

* AND...finally...the carb adjustment issues that ss27gogeta and I have dealt with. I finally got mine pretty much dialed in but he went with a VM26-606 spigot mount (that is a fantastic upgrade!). I went with a smaller Main (I am at a Mile High in Denver) and am still trying to get the right Pilot Jet. I went from the stock 20 to 25 and now will go to a 27.5 or 30, as I still have to have the pilot screw out more than 2 turns.

Hope things get better for you. It really is a fun bike...I can tell even tho I only have put on 11 miles.

[Goob]

It finally came in. Not very pleased, but I got kinda lucky and nothing was broken. The bike was not even attached to the pallet and was leaning over when the truck opened its doors.


Everything seemed to be fine, no cracks in the plastic etc. I got the pro setup. On my test drive of less than five miles my exhaust fell off. I know that china bikes need thorough locktite and stuff to get them up to snuff, but I lost both exhaust nuts on the street. I feel that could be a lawsuit for these guys. Even my vader that was dropshipped had better tightness of bolts. I also received no paperwork whatsoever. I dont really need it in Maine but still. I will upload pictures as soon as I can recover my imgur account.

You have to fill out your info on their web-site to get your MCO (free). Get the Notary Service just in case, it is $10. I didn't do this because I didn't know it existed, but ss27gogeta did.

[Goob]

You have to fill out your info on their web-site to get your MCO (free). Get the Notary Service just in case, it is $10. I didn't do this because I didn't know it existed, but ss27gogeta did.

Forgot to post...I like a bike that is stripped of unnecessary stuff.

[PhildoScaggins]

You have to fill out your info on their web-site to get your MCO (free). Get the Notary Service just in case, it is $10. I didn't do this because I didn't know it existed, but ss27gogeta did.


Cool, thanks for the tip. I might just do it in with a simple bill of sale written up from a friend. under 300cc that's all you need in Maine. The only reason I would need a title would be for if I sold it to someone out of state, but I doubt that will ever happen ha ha. I've put about "50 miles" on it. I think the ODO is off like the speedo. I felt like I had ridden maybe 2 miles and it said 5 on the odo. It surprisingly idles pretty good on the stock carb. I live at sea level. Will pull the plug when I do my 100mi maintenance. I am gonna take your advice and reroute all of the cables that need it, they're begging to get torn out/fail. I haven't ridden it at night yet, but I'm guessing the bulbs will need an LED upgrade. Deff torquey and fun. Can't wait to sell my 190cc vader and get the mods started on this. I've also never had a n-4 up tranny. I kinda like neutral being at the bottom!

[PhildoScaggins]

Also, that seat needs to be taken care of lol, its like sitting on a board. I live in the middle of nowhere and side saddled it for a bit. Maybe a ktm seat will fit.

[culcune]

You have to fill out your info on their web-site to get your MCO (free). Get the Notary Service just in case, it is $10. I didn't do this because I didn't know it existed, but ss27gogeta did.

Have you bothered with street plating? I am curious how/if it went from the last time we discussed you getting a plate or not.

It finally came in. Not very pleased, but I got kinda lucky and nothing was broken. The bike was not even attached to the pallet and was leaning over when the truck opened its doors.


Congrats...I think?! Sounds like you dodged a few bullets with the headache of making damage claims to the trucking company and/or Orion.

These bikes seem to need quite a lot of work to get them going. But, I am STILL intrigued by them...

[PhildoScaggins]

Have you bothered with street plating? I am curious how/if it went from the last time we discussed you getting a plate or not.



Congrats...I think?! Sounds like you dodged a few bullets with the headache of making damage claims to the trucking company and/or Orion.

These bikes seem to need quite a lot of work to get them going. But, I am STILL intrigued by them...


Yeah, once I get off my butt and upload the pictures, yall gonna be blown away there was no damage ha ha. This is my second Chinese bike, my first being a vader. I gotta say the quality of this is so much better. Well worth the extra few hundred bucks. I'm hoping Orion will ship me a few exhaust nuts, kinda my fault for not going over it with a comb first. The wiring stuff doesnt seem too bad, it looks like overall that it has the same setup issues most of the Chinese bikes have. locktite and grease everything, tune carb if needed, should be all set. Once I really dig into it I will try to add as much info to the conversation as I can.

[Goob]

Cool, thanks for the tip. I might just do it in with a simple bill of sale written up from a friend. under 300cc that's all you need in Maine. The only reason I would need a title would be for if I sold it to someone out of state, but I doubt that will ever happen ha ha. I've put about "50 miles" on it. I think the ODO is off like the speedo. I felt like I had ridden maybe 2 miles and it said 5 on the odo. It surprisingly idles pretty good on the stock carb. I live at sea level. Will pull the plug when I do my 100mi maintenance. I am gonna take your advice and reroute all of the cables that need it, they're begging to get torn out/fail. I haven't ridden it at night yet, but I'm guessing the bulbs will need an LED upgrade. Deff torquey and fun. Can't wait to sell my 190cc vader and get the mods started on this. I've also never had a n-4 up tranny. I kinda like neutral being at the bottom! Here is the text of a Bill of sale that I wrote up and sent for Orion to sign and send back. I sent Thursday, haven't heard back yet. I would attach as a PDF, but it is too big for the upload. This way you could copy into Word and edit for your use. I put everything in the same order and format as the MCO, so they look similar. When I post it takes the a lot of the spaces out, but I think you can figure it out. GVW and shipping weight was different than ss27gogeta's.


MOTORCYCLE BILL OF SALE

SELLER BUYER
ORION POWERSPORTS Name
DEALER LICENSE #: P154291 Address-1
5031 MARTIN LUTHER KING JR FWY City, State Zip
FT WORTH, TX 76119


DATE ORDER NUMBER
MARCH ##, 2020 #####

VIN MODEL YEAR MAKE
AC3DJKRY1KY090### 2019 JIAYUE

BODY TYPE SHIPPING WEIGHT
MOTORCYCLE 91KGS

HP (SAE) GVWR NO OF CYLS SERIES OR MODEL
13.87 170KGS 1 A12

ODOMETER PURCHASE PRICE
0 $1389.00


THE ABOVE DESCRIBED MOTORCYCLE IS TO BE SOLD FREE AND CLEAR OF ANY LEINS, ENCOMBERANCES, OR MORTGAGE. SELLER CERTIFIES THAT THEY ARE THE LEGAL AND TRUE OWNER OF THE MOTORCYCLE.
I, THE UNDERSIGNED, HEREBY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I THE SELLER OF THE MOTORCYCLE DESCRIBED HEREIN AND THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS BILL OF SALE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY BELIEF.

SIGNATURE OF SELLER____________________________________________ _
ORION POWERSPORTS


SIGNATURE OF BUYER_____________________________________________ _

[Goob]

Cool, thanks for the tip. I might just do it in with a simple bill of sale written up from a friend. under 300cc that's all you need in Maine. The only reason I would need a title would be for if I sold it to someone out of state, but I doubt that will ever happen ha ha. I've put about "50 miles" on it. I think the ODO is off like the speedo. I felt like I had ridden maybe 2 miles and it said 5 on the odo. It surprisingly idles pretty good on the stock carb. I live at sea level. Will pull the plug when I do my 100mi maintenance. I am gonna take your advice and reroute all of the cables that need it, they're begging to get torn out/fail. I haven't ridden it at night yet, but I'm guessing the bulbs will need an LED upgrade. Deff torquey and fun. Can't wait to sell my 190cc vader and get the mods started on this. I've also never had a n-4 up tranny. I kinda like neutral being at the bottom!

Yeah, my speedo goes up and down..hard to tell what I am going but definitely closer to when it is 35 than when it shows 80! Doesn't seem like I have driven 11 mile either...I have just gone around the blocks in my neighborhood a few times when tuning the carb.

I thought N-4 was weird too at first, but sort of like it for a dirt bike.

There are inexpensive LED bulbs on Ebay and Amazon...I got some for my TT250 for about $20. Nothing fancy, no heat sink, just goes right in with no mods. Also, tho we don't need it on the RXB's, I got an LED for my TT250 brake light to replace the 1157 incandescent...and it has a rapid flash for about 30 seconds when I brake. Good to be seen.

Peace on Ya!

[Goob]

Have you bothered with street plating? I am curious how/if it went from the last time we discussed you getting a plate or not.



Congrats...I think?! Sounds like you dodged a few bullets with the headache of making damage claims to the trucking company and/or Orion.

These bikes seem to need quite a lot of work to get them going. But, I am STILL intrigued by them...

Right now the DMV's are closed in Colorado, so I have to wait. I have asked Orion to sign and send back a Bill of Sale I sent them, just in case the DMV has issues with just an MCO. Typically, they don't ask for bill of sale for vehicles that already are titled, but with a new bike I don't know. So, I'll get a plate if I can, otherwise I can use the bill of sale to get a Colorado off-road permit for $25. This is what my son did with his Honda XR250.

[Goob]

Hello all,

I went to put in a LED headlight bulb and found another issue that I didn't notice before.

The headlight attaches to the plastics with two pins and a locator screw. The screw was fastened down, but the pins on the headlight housing were not popped into the holes in the plastic, and so the headlight was mis-alligned.

You just have to remove the locator screw, then align the pins and squeeze them into the holes with pliers. They sort of pop into place and are held by friction. Replace the screw, of course.

Cheapo, $18, LED, basic with no heat sink perfect replacement for halogen with no modifications. Took about 5 minutes. Much brighter. Not as bright as the expensive ones, but still very bright.

[Goob]

The feature that makes you hold the hand brake or foot brake to start bugs me. I got used to it for electric starting by using the foot brake, but if you try to kick start is a cluster-F.

Trying to hold the hand brake and open the throttle just a tad (which I need to do to kick start) is difficult. I accidentally opened the throttle too much and the engine revved a bit high when the bike started.

So, I bought a momentary switch (same type as a starter switch or kill switch) to mount on the clutch side of the handlebar that I will wire in parallel with the hand brake switch. When I go to start I will press that button simulating the brake being applied, be able to modulate the throttle easily, and kick away.

I tried to track down a relay that is activated by either of the brakes, but couldn't find one. I was going to jump out the contacts if I had found it allowing the starter to crank without the relay being made by the brake(s).

This switch method accomplishes the same thing.

[ss27gogeta]

Hello all,

I went to put in a LED headlight bulb and found another issue that I didn't notice before.

The headlight attaches to the plastics with two pins and a locator screw. The screw was fastened down, but the pins on the headlight housing were not popped into the holes in the plastic, and so the headlight was mis-alligned.

You just have to remove the locator screw, then align the pins and squeeze them into the holes with pliers. They sort of pop into place and are held by friction. Replace the screw, of course.

Cheapo, $18, LED, basic with no heat sink perfect replacement for halogen with no modifications. Took about 5 minutes. Much brighter. Not as bright as the expensive ones, but still very bright.

Got a link to that led light by chance would like to upgrade mine. Also did some more tuning in the 606 I put in a 165 main and droped the pilot to a 20 bike runs even better. idles really smooth might need to adjust the needle a bit but it's runs really good so think I'll leave it alone for now I'm at about 1000ft above sea lvl.

[Goob]

Got a link to that led light by chance would like to upgrade mine. Also did some more tuning in the 606 I put in a 165 main and droped the pilot to a 20 bike runs even better. idles really smooth might need to adjust the needle a bit but it's runs really good so think I'll leave it alone for now I'm at about 1000ft above sea lvl.

This is what I got one on Ebay and one on Amazon, both about $18. I put one in my TT250 and one in the RXB. Nothing fancy with large heat sink, just fits right in original mount with no modifications. Much brighter (not as bright as the expensive ones, but we aren't cruising at 80 on the freeway). 1600 Lumens, which is two times stock.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUXITO-Motorcycle-H4-9003-HB2-LED-Headlight-Bulb-16000LM-6500K-Hi-Lo-Beam-Light/113820571350?hash=item1a803c16d6:g:T78AAOSwvf1dLgn z

This one on Amazon is $24, fancier with cooling fan, but it is on the inside rather than outside, so will fit better in the space behind the headlight. 3200 Lumens. I think I'll get one of these for my TT250. Will likely need to drill holes in the back of the headlight fixture for the heat to go somewhere. Some comments on Amazon say it is a bit long...so may not fit. But there are others like this.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SHDBZDK/ref=psdc_15736451_t1_B07BTTFN1S


Good to know about your jet tuning on the VM26-606. I am going to get one for my TT250 to replace a PKW28 flat-slide clone. I knew I would have to lean out the Main being at 5280 ft, but I may need to do more than expected since you went to a 165 at 1000 ft.

[ss27gogeta]

Got some stuff on the way for the rxb. Order the led bulb that goob put in his also orderd some led turn signals. To replace the super ugly stock ones.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Bike-4pcs-LED-Turn-Signal-Indicator-Light-Blinker-Lamp-Amber-Bendable/372785503243

Also went ahead and order better cables handle bar throttle levers and grips.

https://www.orionpowersports.com/pro-taper-se-mini-handle-bars-levers-throttle-cable-grips-kit/

[Goob]

ss27gogetta,

Not that you need to know now that you have the VM26-606, but I think I finally got the flange mount Mikuni dialed in.

Ended up with a 30 Pilot (screw 1 turn out), but may go back to a 27.5 to see where I end up on the screw. Put the 100 Main back in that was with it when it came (had put in a 97.5, but thought...why not see how big I can go?). I have a 102.5 I may try.

Starts nicely. Must warm up to get it to stay idling without stalling, but it only takes a couple of minutes. Only have to use the 2nd choke position, not full choke.

Revs smooth from idle and thru the gears and rpm range.

I have gotten to where I can take the carb out, replace the jets, and put the carb back in about 15 minutes.

When I go out on the trails I plan to take all the tools-jets I need (screw drivers-slot & Phillips, 10mm closed end wrench, 8mm socket/driver, a bowl gasket, and a couple of jets) to fiddle with it if I have issues at altitude (8500 ft).

I put a nice tool pouch (10x6...doubled over so 5x6 installed) on the left side just in front of the rear plastics (in an area previously blocked by the front plastics. I can store about everything I will need.

[ss27gogeta]

ss27gogetta,

Not that you need to know now that you have the VM26-606, but I think I finally got the flange mount Mikuni dialed in.

Ended up with a 30 Pilot (screw 1 turn out), but may go back to a 27.5 to see where I end up on the screw. Put the 100 Main back in that was with it when it came (had put in a 97.5, but thought...why not see how big I can go?). I have a 102.5 I may try.

Starts nicely. Must warm up to get it to stay idling without stalling, but it only takes a couple of minutes. Only have to use the 2nd choke position, not full choke.

Revs smooth from idle and thru the gears and rpm range.

I have gotten to where I can take the carb out, replace the jets, and put the carb back in about 15 minutes.

When I go out on the trails I plan to take all the tools-jets I need (screw drivers-slot & Phillips, 10mm closed end wrench, 8mm socket/driver, a bowl gasket, and a couple of jets) to fiddle with it if I have issues at altitude (8500 ft).

I put a nice tool pouch (10x6...doubled over so 5x6 installed) on the left side just in front of the rear plastics (in an area previously blocked by the front plastics. I can store about everything I will need.

Glad to see you got the stock carb to work for you. Mine will stall to untill it gets a little warm Even with my vm26-606. the bike is a bit cold blooded sounds like it's a yx thing. I ordered a speedodrd today also so I'll have an install writeup on that comeing. hopefully that gets my Speedo right would not like to get puked over again. Although the cop said I was speeding he said he really pulled me over mostly becouse he thought I was riding a dirt bike around😂

[JerryHawk250]

I ordered a speedodrd today also so I'll have an install writeup on that comeing. hopefully that gets my Speedo right would not like to get puked over again. Although the cop said I was speeding he said he really pulled me over mostly becouse he thought I was riding a dirt bike around😂
I installed the SpeedoDRD. I got it very close to accurate the first time. It only took me a couple of more times to reprogram it to get it dead on accurate but an easy process. It will also store your Max speed so you can pull that up o your display. This has to be the best calibrator i have found.

[ss27gogeta]

I installed the SpeedoDRD. I got it very close to accurate the first time. It only took me a couple of more times to reprogram it to get it dead on accurate but an easy process. It will also store your Max speed so you can pull that up o your display. This has to be the best calibrator i have found.

Did you do a writeup on your install would like to get an idea .whats all involved I know my rxb will probly be a little different than the hawk. but it should get me in the ball park on how to install this thing.

[JerryHawk250]

Did you do a writeup on your install would like to get an idea .whats all involved I know my rxb will probly be a little different than the hawk. but it should get me in the ball park on how to install this thing.

No write up but pretty simple to install. YouTube has some good videos on installing and calibrating as well as 12oclocklab have great step by step instructions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiE0JifqkFw&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iScrjr7FxDM

[ss27gogeta]

Did a top speed run this morning it tops out at 62mph.

[Goob]

Did a top speed run this morning it tops out at 62mph.

That would scare the S**T out of me! I almost felt like it was too much once I hit 4th gear...of course this was on the street and I had a stop sign 2 blocks ahead.

I am interested to get it in the dirt tho, and have some open flat terrain where I can test out top speed. I think I will feel safer on the knobbies then.

[Goob]

ss27gogetta,

I got a VM26-606 for my TT250 yesterday. Figure if it doesn't work out I will put it on the RXB.

I am replacing what I think is an oversized carb that I am having issues with finding parts for. It is a PWK28, flat slide, clone (KOSO) that the PO put on. Uses Mikuni jets (which I got from the PO), but it is a crap shoot if the Keihin PWK28 gaskets will work. I suppose I could just buy some and see.

I am willing to give up some HP for better gas mileage (only getting 57 mpg average), and the only modification is a SS exhaust.

Anyway, I mounted the VM26 yesterday...and guess what...the pilot screw is inaccessible because of the bike frame! So, I have the same adjustment issue as with the Flange mount VM26 on the RXB, but with no solution like the adjustment knob.

The only plus side is that the carb is easy to remove (loosen the spigot clamp) to adjust. But still....it sucks. I guess once it is set up I won't really have to change.

In doing some reading I think the 190 main may well be OK for a 250. Jetsrus suggested I try stock before going overboard and ordering a bunch of jets. Shows how honest Mike is, he could have had a sale, but recommended waiting.

Worst case scenario is that I use the VM26-606 for the RXB and put the flange VM26 on the TT250 (or put the PWK back on and deal with finding gaskets).

[ss27gogeta]

That would scare the S**T out of me! I almost felt like it was too much once I hit 4th gear...of course this was on the street and I had a stop sign 2 blocks ahead.

I am interested to get it in the dirt tho, and have some open flat terrain where I can test out top speed. I think I will feel safer on the knobbies then.


Ya it is kinda schetchy it gets there quick to this thing is so fun to run through the gears. it is so light to f you try to slide back on the seat while your riding you can feel the whole bike move.

[PhildoScaggins]

The feature that makes you hold the hand brake or foot brake to start bugs me. I got used to it for electric starting by using the foot brake, but if you try to kick start is a cluster-F.

Trying to hold the hand brake and open the throttle just a tad (which I need to do to kick start) is difficult. I accidentally opened the throttle too much and the engine revved a bit high when the bike started.



I am wondering what the deal with this is. For me it only applies to the electric start. If I'm in neutral I do not need to apply any brake or clutch to kick it over.

[Goob]

I am wondering what the deal with this is. For me it only applies to the electric start. If I'm in neutral I do not need to apply any brake or clutch to kick it over.

I'll try it tonight kicking without the brakes as you say...I'm sure that is the case.

If so, then the momentary switch I bought will go in my spare parts box....and you will have saved me some time messing with something I didn't need to do.

If not, I will wire the switch in parallel with the front brake switch (like a starter switch or kill switch) that would mount on the clutch side.

I am pretty sure I am in Neutral. I always put my bikes in neutral before I shut them off. This, and pulling in the clutch lever when starting, were pounded into my head 40 years ago.

I typically use electric start, but want kick to be no problem if I need it. The times I have tried to start cold with the kick I whacked my shin multiple times because the lever is just metal and my foot slips off. Shin whacks hurt!

Since then, I bought a "rubber" for the lever to keep my foot from slipping, but only have tried it when the bike was warm already.

Thanks!

[PhildoScaggins]

Finally got around to getting my imgur account up and running. Here is how the bike showed up, and what happened after five miles of riding.
https://i.imgur.com/9gRHfZCl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0ewLWcfl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Q6c3gWTl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sgdTNa6l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cW7xZ5wl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oL3VMhcl.jpg

I still have not heard back from orion about replacement exhaust nuts. I lost a kickstand bolt yesterday on a ride. I keep finding bolts I missed, unfortunately thats due to shit falling off. Anyways its been about 100 miles, time to change the oil, do valve lash, and locktite more. Gonna need carb tuning as well. Ughh.

[2LZ]

Man, I've never had stuff fall of my CB's and I'm not a "Loctite Nazi". How your bike showed up is unreal.

[PhildoScaggins]

Man, I've never had stuff fall of my CB's and I'm not a "Loctite Nazi". How your bike showed up is unreal.

I'm kinda frustrated, also blown away that nothing was damaged. They have not been real responsive to my emails.

[Goob]

Finally got around to getting my imgur account up and running. Here is how the bike showed up, and what happened after five miles of riding.
https://i.imgur.com/9gRHfZCl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0ewLWcfl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Q6c3gWTl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sgdTNa6l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cW7xZ5wl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oL3VMhcl.jpg

I still have not heard back from orion about replacement exhaust nuts. I lost a kickstand bolt yesterday on a ride. I keep finding bolts I missed, unfortunately thats due to shit falling off. Anyways its been about 100 miles, time to change the oil, do valve lash, and locktite more. Gonna need carb tuning as well. Ughh.

Lost a kickstand bolt sometime. The front one. Noticed it today when the stand kicked up into the side plastics. Luckily I had a bolt that fit and it went all the way thru, so I put a nyloc nut on it. I backed out the other one and used blue locktite on it.

Why don't you go to the hardware and get the nuts for your exhaust? They will be metric something. If I can't take the bolt with me (which you can't because it is a stud) then I typically buy a couple of different threads of different sizes and just take back what doesn't fit. An alternative is to find another bolt that has a nut on it that looks to be the same size as the stud and try it out.

My carb took a few tries. Just do idle, then pilot screw, then pilot jet (if needed), then needle clip, then Main. That is my mantra!

[Goob]

Glad to see you got the stock carb to work for you. Mine will stall to untill it gets a little warm Even with my vm26-606. the bike is a bit cold blooded sounds like it's a yx thing. I ordered a speedodrd today also so I'll have an install writeup on that comeing. hopefully that gets my Speedo right would not like to get puked over again. Although the cop said I was speeding he said he really pulled me over mostly becouse he thought I was riding a dirt bike around😂

I rode my TT250 with the new carb today for the first time in warm weather (about 60 out). It kept stalling at idle. I had to keep revved up, so makes sense to me that there is not enough air at idle. I think the Pilot Jet (22.5) that was OK in cold weather is too small for warmer weather. I did have to turn out 1-3/4 with it. So, I ordered the next 3 sizes larger. Will likely jump to a 27.5 and see how that works out.

[ss27gogeta]

Finally got around to getting my imgur account up and running. Here is how the bike showed up, and what happened after five miles of riding.
https://i.imgur.com/9gRHfZCl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0ewLWcfl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Q6c3gWTl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sgdTNa6l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cW7xZ5wl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oL3VMhcl.jpg

I still have not heard back from orion about replacement exhaust nuts. I lost a kickstand bolt yesterday on a ride. I keep finding bolts I missed, unfortunately thats due to shit falling off. Anyways its been about 100 miles, time to change the oil, do valve lash, and locktite more. Gonna need carb tuning as well. Ughh.

I had a simular issue with my exhaust except mine did not fall off all the way just the header came undone at the head. The nut are m6x1.00 I used nylock nut one eatch side with a jam nut to has not came off since.

[franque]

The nylon will melt off of a nylock but, it's better to use a locknut of some sort, I like the ones with distorted threads for exhaust use, preferably stainless.

[PhildoScaggins]

I've just hit 300 miles. Doing an oil change and valve check this afternoon. I took this bike through some wild shit over the weekend. A trail that I used to ride apparently turned into a brutal 4x4 mud running offroad hell. This bike blasted through most of it without a problem. Thinking about hitting it again soon to document how well it can handle the gnar.

[PhildoScaggins]

any of yall get this thin insured? My broker is on the phone with progressive right now.

[BikePit]

Did a top speed run this morning it tops out at 62mph.

Is your RXB 150xl stock as it comes, or did you get that porting upgrade? Will this cruise at 55mph okay?

ETA: 62 speedo or gps?

[PhildoScaggins]

Is your RXB 150xl stock as it comes, or did you get that porting upgrade? Will this cruise at 55mph okay?

ETA: 62 speedo or gps?
My friend rode behind me on her xt225 and said her speedometer was at 55. I still had room to go. Bike is totally stock. Once I get the carb tuned it should be better. Thinking of going up a few teeth on the front sprocket as this thing is super torquey.

[ss27gogeta]

any of yall get this thin insured? My broker is on the phone with progressive right now.

Mine is insure thorough progressive they had no issue getting me insured.

Is your RXB 150xl stock as it comes, or did you get that porting upgrade? Will this cruise at 55mph okay?

ETA: 62 speedo or gps?

That's 62mph GPS verified it said something like 85mph on the speedo and mine semes fine at 55mph with stock gearing. its around 9500 rpm at 55 with stock gearing sounds high but it tacks out at like 12k and these motors seem to like high rpm any way.

[China Rider 27]

How is the seat on it? Doesn't look to comfortable to ride for any length of time. One of you guys should do a review of it once you have enough time on it to form some opinions. Pros and Cons. Cool looking small bike, but the story is in how it rides and performs.

[BikePit]

Thanks ss27gogeta and PhildoScaggins. Sounds good!

[ss27gogeta]

How is the seat on it? Doesn't look to comfortable to ride for any length of time. One of you guys should do a review of it once you have enough time on it to form some opinions. Pros and Cons. Cool looking small bike, but the story is in how it rides and performs.

Performace on the bike is good it's a wheel machine and the suspension seem to be not bad I've gone over several speed bumps way faster than you should go over them suspension absorbed all the shock well as for the seat its a board it's very uncomfortable.

[PhildoScaggins]

The suspension seems to be more than adequate for me. I'm 5'11" and 185 lbs. The seat is rock hard. I've found that changing my riding position a bit has helped combat being saddle sore. The first day I got it I had to ride side saddle towards the end of a ten mile ride. I've gotten comfortable taking rides about 30 miles.

[China Rider 27]

The suspension seems to be more than adequate for me. I'm 5'11" and 185 lbs. The seat is rock hard. I've found that changing my riding position a bit has helped combat being saddle sore. The first day I got it I had to ride side saddle towards the end of a ten mile ride. I've gotten comfortable taking rides about 30 miles.

This bike has caught my eye! Because of it portability and its capacity "I assume to ride trail." I live in a mountainous area with some good riding trails the only problem is they are tough! Winding straight up and down, around and rough. I took my HAWK on it when I first got it and quickly retired it from the idea. No way did it have the suspension or the agility to handle those trails. Some people here have put on an ATV pad from Walmart they strap on the seat might help if it fits.

[BikePit]

Sorry if this has been covered, but does anyone know what size front and rear sprocket this 150XL comes with? And maybe how many links the chain is? Thanks