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Captcj68chris@aol.
04-07-2020, 12:49 PM
Hi all. Just got my new tbr7 had to lower the suspension front and rear.
Very tall bike, and top heavy, now the kickstand is to long, allowing
The bike to stand allow vertical, is there any shorter kickstands that
Anyone know about that I can get. I don't want to cut or modify the
Original one if possible. ( stand from another type of bike?)
Thanks.

JerryHawk250
04-07-2020, 12:58 PM
Can you post a picture of the kick stand and give us a length. We could compare that with other bikes we own on the forum. Maybe someone with a Brozz could check the length. https://shop.brozz250.com/eshopprod_cat_5820297-5932701_product_8379984.F11_Foot_Controls.htm

JerryHawk250
04-07-2020, 01:03 PM
You could buy another kick stand for the TBR7 and modify it. https://partskit.com/product/118004

Captcj68chris@aol.
04-07-2020, 01:17 PM
Hi, thanks for the quick reply. Saw the link for the stand. That's a inexpensive
Option. Cut out a few inches (2?). We have a welder at work. My friend there
Is a good welder.
Thanks

JerryHawk250
04-07-2020, 01:30 PM
Hi, thanks for the quick reply. Saw the link for the stand. That's a inexpensive
Option. Cut out a few inches (2?). We have a welder at work. My friend there
Is a good welder.
Thanks

That's what i would do. But if you ever had to go back stock you have a link to the replacement kick stand. :tup:

kingofqueenz
04-14-2020, 11:23 AM
Kicking this thread back up, I have the same issue, same bike and now lowered it sits too upright and actually blew over in the wind ( luckily on to soft grass - no damage ).

I want to purchase a second kickstand to mod, 2 questions

#1 - Cut and weld, how much to remove? is there a rule of thumb for kickstand\bike lean angle ?

#2 - Can I skip the cut&weld, heat the stand and bend the middle angle to increase the lean angle without cutting

Captcj68chris@aol.
04-14-2020, 10:01 PM
Hi king. I'm thinking that the amount that you would need to remove from the stand
Should be the same amount that you have lowered it? I wouldn't cut more that 2 inches
Though. If you heat it and bend it, then when it's raised up it would stick out from the
Swingarm.

Megadan
04-15-2020, 07:02 AM
There are two ways to figure out the kickstand length. 1 is the redneck way. 2 is the nerd way.

1. With a helper, you can use some wood to simulate the kick stand in place in a down position, and trim it to length until the bike sits at a rough angle that you can live with. Do some rough guesstimation on the amount needed to cut from there.

2. use triginometry.

As far as a rule of thumb for side stand lean angle... Not really. Even from the big manufacturers every bike is a bit different. Generally most bikes fall within 15 to 25 degrees of lean angle though, give or take a bit. My Hawk sit around 30 thanks to it's taller than usual hind end and stiff suspension. I wouldn't want to go any further than that if I am honest.

kingofqueenz
04-15-2020, 12:45 PM
Failed trig class.... Option 1 it is!!!

Thanks!!!

OneLeggedRider
04-15-2020, 03:58 PM
On the SYX Moto Holeshot I just bought had the same trouble. I just heated it with a torch and bent it slightly out. It does stick out a little further from the swingarm, but not enough to be a problem.

kingofqueenz
04-15-2020, 05:12 PM
If I'm being honest, in its current state, its not easy to find without a foot fiddle for a moment, sticking out slightly may not be a bad thing.

For $19 bucks, I might give the heat and bend a shot and then bend back and go with cut & weld.

Bike is roughly 300lbs so I'm not having a heart attack about stressing the kickstand metal by heating and bending and adjusting

Thanks 1Leg

vtwinaddicted
04-18-2020, 09:51 AM
The easiest way to fix this is take a angle grinder and grind on the kickstand stop on the frame, letting it swing forward more allowing the bike to tilt over more

kingofqueenz
04-18-2020, 10:10 PM
Took a good look at the stand today and bending would not be an option, it will just stick out too much.

Appreciate all of the suggestions, however I think I will buy the spare for 19 bucks and call in a favor to get it welded.

I like having a stock stand to revert back to should I raise the bike back up.

Bulldogg1984
05-03-2020, 01:15 PM
There are two ways to figure out the kickstand length. 1 is the redneck way. 2 is the nerd way.

1. With a helper, you can use some wood to simulate the kick stand in place in a down position, and trim it to length until the bike sits at a rough angle that you can live with. Do some rough guesstimation on the amount needed to cut from there.

2. use triginometry.

As far as a rule of thumb for side stand lean angle... Not really. Even from the big manufacturers every bike is a bit different. Generally most bikes fall within 15 to 25 degrees of lean angle though, give or take a bit. My Hawk sit around 30 thanks to it's taller than usual hind end and stiff suspension. I wouldn't want to go any further than that if I am honest.


Mr. Megadan thanks for your advice on the front forks relative to the kickstand. I'm a bit new to the forum and am not that great with computers or motorcycles for that matter.Lol, Im trying to attach a pic but Im not sure I have permission to do that. The forks on my bike came already extended from what I can tell. It the image came across this is how they look now. Tops are flush with the triple tree. Is there another step to extend them further? If these are fully extended, Im thinking I may resort to the Trigonometry option since my wife is both pretty and can do math! One funny item. From what I've been able to observe from the various videos on Youtube, the bikes seem to ship with small differences in say the fuel cap and the forks not being extended in my case. Also, one video shows installing the starter but mine came preinstalled. Guess its must be differences in what's available at the time they are produced.

Megadan
05-03-2020, 01:57 PM
That's not quite what I mean by using the bit of wood lol.

Megadan
05-03-2020, 02:47 PM
This may be a stupid question but have you installed the bottom rear shock bolt yet. The bike looks like its a little low in the rear.

That is a great point. Hard to tell from the angle but I do believe you are correct.

Bulldogg1984
05-03-2020, 05:08 PM
Thanks for asking. That's a great question. The video I've been watching that is closest to the state of assembly mine arrived in doesn't give me enough info on that. They show the shock in what looks to be the same configuration mine's in but no indication that anything has to be done. Unless I've just missed it there doesn't seem to be a bolt either. With my level of experience I'm certain that its something I must be doing wrong/haven't done correctly. Does anyone have a link handy on how this done? Thanks guys!

Megadan
05-03-2020, 05:35 PM
Some pictures or even a video showing us the rear shock would likely be easier.

Bulldogg1984
05-03-2020, 06:13 PM
This may be a stupid question but have you installed the bottom rear shock bolt yet. The bike looks like its a little low in the rear.

Thank you so much. What you thought would be a stupid question may have saved me really screwing up. There sitting right in front of me was the bolt, nut, and the clearly unconnected shock. It was "on the bike" but Im either blind or stupid. I mean I watched that darned video a bunch of times and just didn't get it. Really appreciate you guys and the forum. Thanks again!

Megadan
05-04-2020, 02:10 AM
Thank you so much. What you thought would be a stupid question may have saved me really screwing up. There sitting right in front of me was the bolt, nut, and the clearly unconnected shock. It was "on the bike" but Im either blind or stupid. I mean I watched that darned video a bunch of times and just didn't get it. Really appreciate you guys and the forum. Thanks again!

That is what this forum is here for. Glad it ended up being something simple. :tup: