Bike shut off mid right and won't start again

[BuffaloChinaRider]

Hey guys so my Apollo bike has been running pretty well aside from some minor things here in there. I went out on a ride today and I got to a stop sign once I made my stop to continue going I was still slightly rolling but my bike just shut off and now it will not start. I have a full battery so it is not a battery problem there is nothing wrong with the engine as it seemed so far, it is cranking over pretty good but it just won't start. I think it could be something electrical because when I check for spark I am not seeing a spark even when I pull the plug out and have it connected to the spark plug wire and I ground it to the engine I'm still not seeing a spark so I think it is an electrical issue I just am not sure where exactly to check I have checked the fuse in the fuse is fine I switched it anyway and still nothing any thoughts?

[culcune]

Possibly CDI...not sure how to check that, other than putting in a replacement. You didn't say which bike you are riding (you have two? Brozz and Apollo?), but if they use the same CDI you can swap them out.

[BuffaloChinaRider]

Possibly CDI...not sure how to check that, other than putting in a replacement. You didn't say which bike you are riding (you have two? Brozz and Apollo?), but if they use the same CDI you can swap them out.

I have the apollo! And a bashan storm but not here with me. Definitely could be faulty CDI just so weird that its a new bike. There's ZERO spark. I'll have to check and or replace CDI and see if it works. Thanks! I'll keep you updated.

[Alollo Dean]

Damn, sorry to hear about this cause I know what it's like to get a new bike and have problems right out of the gate. Good luck and please keep us posted because as you know I have the same bike.

[BuffaloChinaRider]

Damn, sorry to hear about this cause I know what it's like to get a new bike and have problems right out of the gate. Good luck and please keep us posted because as you know I have the same bike.

Oh yeah for sure! Tomorrow I'll continue trouble shooting BUT so far I just see that there is no spark at all...all of a sudden it just died. I'll figure it out soon and update Yous!

[NzBrakelathes]

Flip kill switch to ON

That’s been done before today

[franque]

Yeah, there's a wire leading to the CDI, blue/black iirc, that when grounded will kill spark. I would double check that that's not grounded first (several things can ground it), and make sure the coil has a good ground, too. I'd also check to make sure all of the connections/grounds are tight, and while you're at it, smell your oil, and let us know what it smells like. Then, I'd look at replacing the CDI.

[BuffaloChinaRider]

My coil ground was all rusty. I took the coil off, I wire brushed the area where was grounded and put it back then it cranked up no problem. Seems like these apollo bike have the same coil ground being loose or rusty problem. Thanks for everyones help!

[JerryHawk250]

My cool ground was all rusty. I took the coil off, I wore brushed the area where was grounded and put it back then it cranked up no problem. Seems like these apollo bike have the same coil ground being loose or rusty problem. Thanks for everyones help!

I was just about to reply to your thread. I may be wrong but i'm pretty sure your bike has a DC CDI so a good ground is a must. The CDI has to have a good power source and ground to run. Any bad connections will cause firing issues. Glad you got it fixed. :tup:

[BuffaloChinaRider]

I was just about to reply to your thread. I may be wrong but i'm pretty sure your bike has a DC CDI so a good ground is a must. The CDI has to have a good power source and ground to run. Any bad connections will cause firing issues. Glad you got it fixed. :tup:

Thanks for still replying! I was very frustrated BUT I remembered when I was assembling the bike I saw The coil in a funky spot and where it was bolted to do I figured I'd check there. Just to see if would get spark, I moved the coil around a little then hit the starter and I could finally see a spark from the plug so I knew that was the issue. I did the walk of shame back to my house down the road...with my lady walking with me because she was on the back hahaha!! First time I've been stranded by a china bike. But problem solved! Thanks again to everyone.

[JerryHawk250]

Thanks for still replying! I was very frustrated BUT I remembered when I was assembling the bike I saw The coil in a funky spot and where it was bolted to do I figured I'd check there. Just to see if would get spark, I moved the coil around a little then hit the starter and I could finally see a spark from the plug so I knew that was the issue. I did the walk of shame back to my house down the road...with my lady walking with me because she was on the back hahaha!! First time I've been stranded by a china bike. But problem solved! Thanks again to everyone.

Just think of it as a learning experience. You'll know what to look for if it happens again. ;)

[kingofqueenz]

Corroded ground on a new bike ?

Can you shmear some dielectric grease over the connection ?

[BuffaloChinaRider]

Corroded ground on a new bike ?

Can you shmear some dielectric grease over the connection ?

I wouldn't really say corroded but there was a slight rust around where the coil was bolted on I know on a video I saw on YouTube a guy's Apollo had the same thing happen his coil was slightly loose and where it was bolted was rough not really rusty but just needed to be sanded down a bit to get a proper connection. I am not sure if I can put grease I probably should try but I already tightened everything back up and put things back together if this happens again I definitely will try that thanks!

[franque]

My coil ground was all rusty. I took the coil off, I wire brushed the area where was grounded and put it back then it cranked up no problem. Seems like these apollo bike have the same coil ground being loose or rusty problem. Thanks for everyones help!

Sounds like you owe me a beer! :tup:

[BuffaloChinaRider]

Sounds like you owe me a beer! :tup:

Or 3 ;)

[Kenstogie]

i had a faulty ground out of the box... it was a small wire, bad ground contact on the motor and a sharty stock battery.... maybe its a common issue with china bikes....? i used some "starwashers" and sprayed it with ncp2

glad you got it fixed though....👍👍

[BuffaloChinaRider]

i had a faulty ground out of the box... it was a small wire, bad ground contact on the motor and a sharty stock battery.... maybe its a common issue with china bikes....? i used some "starwashers" and sprayed it with ncp2

glad you got it fixed though....👍👍

Yeah I noticed it was faulty and weak looking when I was assembling my apollo but I just figured I'd tighten it and keep it moving. Then a guy on youtube said his apollo would sputter and lose power around 40ish also it would not start sometimes then he noticed his coil was loose and where I was grounded was not very clean. Now as I think of it, that could have been the cause of why I would lose power around 45ish. I'll use ncp2 if I have any issues again!

[Beast250]

Where is this coil ground located on the apollo? Id like to be proactive and check it. Ive traced a few wires but would appreciate a confirmation on finding it.

[JerryHawk250]

Where is this coil ground located on the apollo? Id like to be proactive and check it. Ive traced a few wires but would appreciate a confirmation on finding it.

Like most of these china bikes the coil is grounded directly to the frame. Remove the coil and clean a little paint off so that it has a good ground.

[BuffaloChinaRider]

Where is this coil ground located on the apollo? Id like to be proactive and check it. Ive traced a few wires but would appreciate a confirmation on finding it.

Under the right side fairing up beside the gas tank. You'll see it mounted. I'd take it off, and sand down the ground point then make sure its nice and tight.

[Beast250]

Under the right side fairing up beside the gas tank. You'll see it mounted. I'd take it off, and sand down the ground point then make sure its nice and tight.

Is it the small black component that is 'behind' the horn bracket? (It does lead to the spark plug cap). It has two wires coming off the back - those two wires lead into the wiring harness and seem to go to the back of the bike/battery negative).

I not finding a location that seems to be an obvious ground outside of a very thin wire that is on the chain side of the bike looped through one of the bolts that holds the cover guard on.

[franque]

Yes, that's the coil, and the ground is generally where it bolts to the motorcycle. It needs to be paint and rust free at where the coil is bolted to the frame.

[Beast250]

Yes, that's the coil, and the ground is generally where it bolts to the motorcycle. It needs to be paint and rust free at where the coil is bolted to the frame.

Appreciate the confirmation!

Thank you all! :thanks: