2020 Vader 125cc

[Medicbobs]

So I'm just making a thread on my personal Gen II Vader (blue) and my girlfriend's (white). I'll try to keep it updated with picture and videos of things that I'm doing to it (Which is a lot lately in the past 2 days!) I work as a paramedic and am on for 24 today, but will start uploading everything tomorrow to show you guys. I think you'll have some fun looking at it. Here is a quick mod list on what I've ordered and where.

Vader 125 (Gen II) Kronik Racing
Ordered 7/21 - Received 9/3 (Covid really slowed it down, but Pete was very helpful with the process and had the MCO in the box on arrival)

$1400 to the door - https://www.kronikracing.com/-Boom-Vader-Gen-2-BD125-10-_p_437.html





Parts list so far (everything listed fits perfect):

Short gear shifter - https://www.amazon.com/Shifter-Alloy-Folding-Unbrakable-110CC/dp/B07MXT3DGD/ref=pd_di_sccai_3?pd_rd_w=EbSx5&pf_rd_p=c9443270-b914-4430-a90b-72e3e7e784e0&pf_rd_r=A8CQ4H961CK01VZZYWXD&pd_rd_r=965d5d69-b4d2-4200-b004-ec44c7abf111&pd_rd_wg=Z7Pjj&pd_rd_i=B07MXT3DGD&psc=1

Exhaust crush gasket (Needed if you change your muffler) - https://www.amazon.com/1PZ-ERN-M24-Exhaust-Gasket-32x24-5mm/dp/B07FRRX2NS/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=grom+exhaust+crush+gasket&qid=1614373127&sr=8-1

Bar end mirrors - https://www.amazon.com/FTRT-SV650-1999-2010-DL650V-STROM-750/dp/B07FCK9CMP/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=grom+bar+end+link&qid=1614372799&s=automotive&sr=1-5

Jet kit - https://www.amazon.com/Wingsmoto-Mikuni-Carburetor-Carb-250cc/dp/B017SJO94S/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=grom+vm22+jet+kit&qid=1614373165&sr=8-1

16T sprocket - https://www.amazon.com/Wingsmoto-Sprocket-420-16T-Motorcycle-Dirtbike/dp/B010UQIMNK/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=grom+16+sprocket&qid=1614373182&sr=8-2

Amazon motorcycle exhaust - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PQ55W56?pd_rd_i=B07PQ55W56&pd_rd_w=nPKMq&pf_rd_p=2e62cf0a-1323-46ac-bbb9-19dc851997c6&pd_rd_wg=jjqRZ&pf_rd_r=4BF6S87Q29W0ZTTPRAWT&pd_rd_r=bdd37833-8e6a-4041-a8fc-31622697cf62

Legit Honda Grom rear shock - No link because they are all over Ebay in great condition and feel so much better than the stock bounce house one.

Mid Fairing belly pan set - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Grom-MSX125-Mid-Fairing-Belly-Panel-Set-2018-2019-V1/274667532594?hash=item3ff375f132:g:GmwAAOSwsqdcHiM y

Pro Taper Handlebars - https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Taper-SE-Standard-Handlebars/dp/B000TYEDFK

Flush mount turning signals - https://www.amazon.com/Honda-1000RR-Flushmount-Signals-Smoked/dp/B00KSK8OKU/ref=asc_df_B00KSK8OKU/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309806291903&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16782705652011989137&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026058&hvtargid=pla-569050687830&psc=1

VM22 Carb - https://www.amazon.com/Carbhub-Carburetor-Mikuni-Zongshen-Thumpstar/dp/B07G915FNB

Short clutch lever - https://www.amazon.com/MZS-Brake-Clutch-2014-2018-CBR250R/dp/B01C5MNYGW/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=grom+clutch+lever+short&qid=1614372964&s=automotive&sr=1-5

Integrated tail light and fender eliminator kit - https://tstindustries.com/tst-undertail-fender-eliminator-integrated-tail-light-system-honda-grom-2017.html

**The tail light kit was a bitch finding out what wire goes where, but I will post the wiring diagram too to make it a breeze for anyone doing this in the future! A lot of trial and error but it looks amazing and I feel it is a cheap must have for the bike. Just make sure you buy the 14$ license plate light on the site because the kit didn't come with one.



I'll run through most of the stuff I have on tomorrow in my video and should have everything put together in a few days for a full ride and review out here in bi polar ass Colorado this week. (Supposed to snow on 9/8-9) Everyone stay safe!

[RedCrowRides]

I am surprised that Grom exhaust fit , usually the exhaust port angle is different enough so that you have to heat the head pipe with a torch and bend it rather significantly to get a decent fit. The pipes for the DAX or "original" monkey ( not the new released one) will usually bolt right on .

[Medicbobs]

I am surprised that Grom exhaust fit , usually the exhaust port angle is different enough so that you have to heat the head pipe with a torch and bend it rather significantly to get a decent fit. The pipes for the DAX or "original" monkey ( not the new released one) will usually bolt right on .

Yeah, it didn't fit up. You're right. My 1st gen Vader had the same problem. I have it at a shop now getting fitted. Should have it Tuesday because of the holiday. Everything else has fit properly.

[Medicbobs]

https://youtu.be/ahJwk-8jSTs

Give it about 20-30 minutes to upload the better quality resolutions. Shot it in 1440p @ 60.

[daytonacat]

I changed my seat to this one. fit perfect, no mods and feels great on my back side.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5M1FKW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Got this for the EPA pipe blocking plate for the under side of the head.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-EGR-Block-Off-Plate-FOR-50cc-QMB139-150cc-GY6-Scooters/192442529967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

I do have to agree with you on the low beam on the head light. It really sucks the big one big time. Have to ride with the high beam on to see at night better. I also added these for night time (auxiliary lighting) and they work nice.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-U1-Motorcycle-ATV-Spotlight-Driving-Fog-Light-Lamp-Universal-For-BMW-Honda/184323688314?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

What head light assembly are you referring to for replacement?

thanks much

Carl

[Medicbobs]

I changed my seat to this one. fit perfect, no mods and feels great on my back side.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5M1FKW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Got this for the EPA pipe blocking plate for the under side of the head.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-EGR-Block-Off-Plate-FOR-50cc-QMB139-150cc-GY6-Scooters/192442529967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

I do have to agree with you on the low beam on the head light. It really sucks the big one big time. Have to ride with the high beam on to see at night better. I also added these for night time (auxiliary lighting) and they work nice.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-U1-Motorcycle-ATV-Spotlight-Driving-Fog-Light-Lamp-Universal-For-BMW-Honda/184323688314?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

What head light assembly are you referring to for replacement?

thanks much

Carl

Yeah I figured out that damn block off plate was needed for sure so that should be here Wednesday. I really like that seat too! I added it to my Amazon cart now, so I can get it this week for sure. I'm 6.4 so that little hump in the middle of the stock seat makes me have to seat back a little. I'll have to get a flat one this week for sure, but the stock seat isn't bad at all. Here is the stock Gen II Grom headlight. My buddy has one on his Gen II Grom so I know it fits. He said the Brightness is worth it alone and you get the little LED running light strip. Here is the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-MSX125-GROM-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLY-SET-GENUINE-PARTS-2016-2020-HEADLAMP/222773937665?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[daytonacat]

thanks for the linkbuddy.

any idea as to the wiring up of that light assembly?

Carl

[Medicbobs]

thanks for the linkbuddy.

any idea as to the wiring up of that light assembly?

Carl

Sure man! Here you go.

Tail Light
TST Blue to Vader Brown (running light)
TST Black to Vader Green (ground)
TST Yellow to Vader yellow with green stripe (Brake)

Turning signals
TST Brown to Vader baby blue (right turn signal)
TST Green to Vader orange (left turn signal)

License plate light (order it as it doesn't come with the kit)
This is the one pictured on the plug.
Green - Ground
Brown - positive

[Medicbobs]

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[Medicbobs]

Also, here are some pictures of the new upgraded engine bolts that come with the 2020. Looks like 12.9 grade? If that's true, good for them on changing it! Only time will tell.

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[Medicbobs]

Welp...more parts coming. I bought a flat seat as my 6.4 self feels kind of funny on the pointy part of the seat.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5M1FKW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also am going to fix the low output of the headlight and retrofit a really good fog light in there, so I'll make sure to keep pictures up to date with that. Here is the ones I bought. Mind you, I'm doing my girl's bike and mine at the same time.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PJVW4LH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also put the block off plate on the bottom of the engine:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-EGR-Block-Off-Plate-FOR-50cc-QMB139-150cc-GY6-Scooters/192442529967?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


I also will be the guinea pig on the shorter front forks to go along with the 2.5 inch drop I bought for the back. Here is the link for that:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-FORKS-SHOCK-LOW-CUSTOM-ABSORBERS-FIT-HONDA-GROM-MSX-125-MSX125SF-2013-2020/202783006270?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649


I'll keep everyone updated on the progress to help people in the future with this bike. I'll be posting a good walk through and riding video tomorrow with the current completed state.

[daytonacat]

Thanks Bob

At 6-2 I know what you mean about the stock seat. That is why I got the one I linked to you. Very nice seat and you can slide along it to get your favorite riding position.
Wish that darn low beam was brighter. Have not seen the light output of a Honda Groms one to see if that is any better or not.
I also saw the upgraded motor mount bolts on my bike as well.

Carl

[daytonacat]

Bob
I also installed an oil cooler on mine. Runs about 50-60 degrees cooler when measured on the head and jug.

[daytonacat]

for some reason it wont let me attach the pictures

[Medicbobs]

Bob
I also installed an oil cooler on mine. Runs about 50-60 degrees cooler when measured on the head and jug.

Oh damn. That's a good idea. Was it easy to install?

[daytonacat]

Bob

very easy to install. message me if you can so I can send you pics of the installation
and the links to the units I used.

Carl

[China Rider 27]

If you have time, can you post the link to the unit you used?

[daytonacat]

I used this oil cooler. do NOT cut the springs, they are for protecting the hoses.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WDZKXJS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

you can use this one for the oil cooler plate for the head of the motor. DO NOT destroy the original gasket. Needs to be used for the new oil plate.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pit-Bike-OIL-COOLER-ADAPTER-PLATE-CRF50-ATC70-SDG-I-OC05/360371381489?hash=item53e7cee4f1%3Ag%3A4EEAAOSwLaZ ZqGae&LH_BIN=1

Carl

[daytonacat]

almost forgot;

the bolt closest to the spark plug on the plate ALSO holds the circular plate on the other side of the head inplace.
There is a LOCATING tab on that plate to keep it in place when you tighten down that one long bolt.
Torque all 3 bolts to 7 to 8 Ft Lbs. use a drop of blue lock tight on each one.

ALSO see this link to see my oil cooler instllation on my STOCK Vader.

https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=25925

[Medicbobs]

Got the headlights retrofitted guys. Hope you like them! I swear I'm going to do a night ride video tonight to show you how they look. Get you the 20$ dremal set at Walmart so you can cut into the housing and everything else is just screws and the housing itself pops open easy since there is no silicone. I think it turned out great!

https://youtu.be/gr3Q-WN0hBQ

Dremal I used (just buy you some good cutting wheels for 5$): https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tough-AQ25000S-A-1-5-Amp-106-Piece-Rotary-Tool-and-Kit/155323609?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&&adid=22222222227092137781&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=207464220440&wl4=aud-393207457166:pla-335409039256&wl5=9029086&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=155323609&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw74b7BRA_EiwAF8yHFIzvns9KQvtclXSIUBnC Z4PG_wcXx8m784ed326mesW9voB40vEIMRoCm48QAvD_BwE

[Medicbobs]

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[China Rider 27]

almost forgot;

the bolt closest to the spark plug on the plate ALSO holds the circular plate on the other side of the head inplace.
There is a LOCATING tab on that plate to keep it in place when you tighten down that one long bolt.
Torque all 3 bolts to 7 to 8 Ft Lbs. use a drop of blue lock tight on each one.

ALSO see this link to see my oil cooler instllation on my STOCK Vader.

https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=25925

That is fine installation! Thanks much!

[daytonacat]

Bob
how is the heat build up on the actual LED light you installed in the Vaders headlight assembly?

Carl

[daytonacat]

You are very welcome China

[Medicbobs]

Bob
how is the heat build up on the actual LED light you installed in the Vaders headlight assembly?

Carl

I have the back cut out so the back of the housing actually is in the open, but I haven't felt ANY heat at all. Maybe just because of the LED or it's only 40w. I have to take it apart one more time to kinda of lower the beam some more. (It's a little too high, no biggie). Came out good. I might need a little 6 or 7 inch light bar below it to really make the light output shine brighter. I bought some clamps for my forks and I'm going to see how much space I have to work with after I get those in. Here are the ones I got:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0753YM3VX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think our fork diameter is like 44mm or 1.7 inches so these should do since they are up to 2". This is going to look sick with a light bar right under the headlight housing if all goes well.

I have this light in mind: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MYYCLHG/?coliid=I2BRSTY0797H9W&colid=3GVTNZAL4HXCI&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

[daytonacat]

Bob
when you take the headlight apart, can you please take a few pics to show us how you actually mounted up that light inside of it?

thanks

dont forget you can angle the headlight assembly by loosening up the SINGLE screw under the high beam on the headlight schroud.

[Medicbobs]

Bob
when you take the headlight apart, can you please take a few pics to show us how you actually mounted up that light inside of it?

thanks

dont forget you can angle the headlight assembly by loosening up the SINGLE screw under the high beam on the headlight schroud.

Yeah, I maxed the bottom screw out already. I literally just cut a square so it would fit perfectly and it kinda sat snugly in place. When I do the re-adjustment tomorrow, I'll be sure to take some pictures of the process.

[daytonacat]

Bob
did you use the original throttle cable on your after market carb or a different one?

Carl

[Medicbobs]

Bob
did you use the original throttle cable on your after market carb or a different one?

Carl

So I bought a little 6 dollar cable and MAN, it's PERFECT! No throttle play at all. So glad I pulled the trigger on that. Here is the link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FBLNTSX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also here is the pictures of the install. I angled the light down a bit, put some self tapping screws to make sure it didn't move and boom, better light now! I am putting a light bar on today attached to the forks to just give it that amazing light I need on dirt roads and stuff.

Here is the install pictures:

[daytonacat]

Pictures???
thanks for the cable link. ordering one today as well.

Carl

[Medicbobs]

Pictures???
thanks for the cable link. ordering one today as well.

Carl

Sorry, I was running late this morning and didn't click send lol. Here you go sir.

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If you guys have any questions, just DM me. I'll have some night pictures and videos tonight of what it looks like at night.

[daytonacat]

lol
thats ok Bob.
thanks for the pics.

nice install

Carl

[Medicbobs]

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So here is a picture of the switch from Wal-mart (or whatever switch you chose). You can see the little part that I cut off with the dremal so it could fit flush between the forks. Looks amazing and the lights work so good! Here is a video of the lights at night in my garage:

https://youtu.be/Qf28DIZEhQU

[daytonacat]

Bob
Got the new light bar mounted up and wired in with the bar mounted spots.
Just have to wait till night time to get a fairly accurate beam aiming.
With the fork mounts I got I used the long pegs and did not have to cut anything off the light bar.
Will try to get pics of it later tonight.

Carl

[Medicbobs]

Bob
Got the new light bar mounted up and wired in with the bar mounted spots.
Just have to wait till night time to get a fairly accurate beam aiming.
With the fork mounts I got I used the long pegs and did not have to cut anything off the light bar.
Will try to get pics of it later tonight.

Carl

Hell yeah man! I'm glad you got it mounted. Those fork mounts are awesome! I finally got my stupid GoPro mic adapter so I'll be out recording some stuff today so I'll have it posted by tonight for sure.

[masked avenger]

what did you do for the sensors that plug into the OEM clutch lever?

[daytonacat]

who are you referring to?
Me or Bob?

Carl

[masked avenger]

who are you referring to?
Me or Bob?

Carl

op but if you have wisdom to chime in, i'm ears partner :thanks:

[Medicbobs]

what did you do for the sensors that plug into the OEM clutch lever?

Sorry about the late reply brother. I just removed it honestly. Didn't see any difference. Didn't see a way to reuse it anyway.

[masked avenger]

Sorry about the late reply brother. I just removed it honestly. Didn't see any difference. Didn't see a way to reuse it anyway.

no stress man, thanks for replying. I know when I disconnected them the bike wouldn't start unless she was in neutral. this sucked when I stalled at an intersection with traffic behind and couldn't for the life of me find neutral :doh:

[Medicbobs]

no stress man, thanks for replying. I know when I disconnected them the bike wouldn't start unless she was in neutral. this sucked when I stalled at an intersection with traffic behind and couldn't for the life of me find neutral :doh:

Yeah that's all it does i believe. Neutral will get way easier to find as the miles go up. I'm at close to 400 and it's getting so much better.

[Medicbobs]

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[Medicbobs]

New Video up. I have some riding videos getting uploaded now as well.

https://youtu.be/cuyipIn4I4M

[RK97]

Yeah that's all it does i believe. Neutral will get way easier to find as the miles go up. I'm at close to 400 and it's getting so much better.

I’m under 70 miles, and i have to really stomp with conviction to go down from 2 into 1 at a stop. Neutral is getting easier to find already.

Is your engine feeling any stronger at 400 miles? Mine feels like it’s just starting to break in and loosen up ...but that may be wishful thinking and an improperly calibrated butt-dyno, because i ride with a passenger more often than not. Hahahaha

[Medicbobs]

I’m under 70 miles, and i have to really stomp with conviction to go down from 2 into 1 at a stop. Neutral is getting easier to find already.

Is your engine feeling any stronger at 400 miles? Mine feels like it’s just starting to break in and loosen up ...but that may be wishful thinking and an improperly calibrated butt-dyno, because i ride with a passenger more often than not. Hahahaha

Hey man, I love the passenger idea! Make the experience as fun as you can get it and bring people along for the ride. Yeah, my engine feels so much better at around 500 miles. I mean the difference from where you are and just right where I am is night and day. You'll find those gear so much better around the 500 mile mark. Just keep riding it around where you are switching through the gears and it'll break it easy. We all go through it, Just the price we pay for Chinese, but it's worth the discount!

[Medicbobs]

Here is the riding video. More to come tomorrow!

https://youtu.be/g1c2E5eiVfA

[RK97]

Hey man, I love the passenger idea! Make the experience as fun as you can get it and bring people along for the ride. Yeah, my engine feels so much better at around 500 miles. I mean the difference from where you are and just right where I am is night and day. You'll find those gear so much better around the 500 mile mark. Just keep riding it around where you are switching through the gears and it'll break it easy. We all go through it, Just the price we pay for Chinese, but it's worth the discount!

Haha. I have raced sport bikes since 2007ish, and raced XR100s from 2014 or so. Fiancé was super supportive about getting back into “big” bikes, but was upset that my SV650 doesn’t have lights or plates... so the Vader was my solution. We ride together, and she will learn on it.

[Medicbobs]

Haha. I have raced sport bikes since 2007ish, and raced XR100s from 2014 or so. Fiancé was super supportive about getting back into “big” bikes, but was upset that my SV650 doesn’t have lights or plates... so the Vader was my solution. We ride together, and she will learn on it.

Yeah that is the best bike to do it on! My girl and I both have a Vader and she's new on motorcycles so it's perfect for them to learn. Be safe!

[Medicbobs]

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[Medicbobs]

https://youtu.be/w7_8Q-8Zgi8

https://youtu.be/vY_er6rCdEI

[GScott]

Okay. You got me interested. Now what is the difference between the 'Gen 1' BD125-15 and the 'Gen 2 BD125-10? Anything besides the plastic?

[culcune]

There are probably some minor differences, perhaps in the chassis, but since the Vaders are all certified on the same EPA/DOT certificate, and they concurrently sell both models, mechanically they are the same. I suggest to speak with Pete at Kronik Racing--he is the Vader guru as far as dealers go (member RedCrowRides is among our resident experts on this forum). He sells them, repairs them, modifies them, and has performed, or sold the parts to perform, engine swaps on the little, mighty beasts.

www.kronikracing.com

[Medicbobs]

Okay. You got me interested. Now what is the difference between the 'Gen 1' BD125-15 and the 'Gen 2 BD125-10? Anything besides the plastic?


Sorry for the late reply, but yea the 15 (even though the number is higher) is the older "round" style headlight and plastics and the 10 is the newer Grom SF style with a little different plastics. Having had both, the parts and engine are identical.

[Medicbobs]

ZS 212cc Swap complete!!

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