2007 LONGBO LB150T HELP!

[LadyDi]

OK, I OWN (sorry to say) THIS SCOOTER (piece of crap that it is).. I swear it is possessed! :twisted:
Nothing has gone right since the day I got it! :cry:

"YMoto Scooters/Cypress Auto" is/was a rip off dealer that has gone out of business.. Lot's of luck with the 3 year warranty that he doesn't honor!

Anyway- if anyone has any information where on earth to find the parts/repair manual for this 'thing', I would greatly appreciate it. :lol:

If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all! 8O

200 miles and the electrical burns up & needed replacement! (going down the highway it died on me) Everything electrical fried right down to the battery!
250 miles and the carb goes berzerk, chokes out and stops running!
301 miles and the gas gauge sticks on full and the headlights don't work..

Did I mention it's trash & I'm sorry I bought it? :?: :?:

Thanks for letting me vent, I'm just so pissed and the weather is so great for scooting and I can't! UGH!!!!!!!! :(

Maybe time for a new scoot!!!

Not what ya wanna hear,But,If it looks like a lemon.......

[kens97sto171]

I would also post your problem on the ScootDawg forum.. They specialize in Chinese scoots... You may be suprized how easy it may be to fix your problems... once these things get worked out.. the scoots can be pretty reliable.

Also a pic of your scooter might help.. the "names" of these things doesnot always mean much.. My point is some Longbo 150's look just like a Roketa Fiji 150.. so you might be able to get Roketa parts.. many are interchangeable.. since they are all GY6 engines... except perhaps body parts.

Here is the Forum URL.. they are GREAT here.. very helpfull.

http://scootdawg.proboards59.com/index.cgi

Ken

[katoranger]

Our scooter forum is pretty limited here, the scootdawg guys will be able to help you out better.

Ken is right about most parts being interchangeable.

I think once you get a new wiring harness and carb that you will be riding again. Neither one is real expensive.

Allen

[LadyDi]

I would also post your problem on the ScootDawg forum.. They specialize in Chinese scoots... You may be suprized how easy it may be to fix your problems... once these things get worked out.. the scoots can be pretty reliable.

Also a pic of your scooter might help.. the "names" of these things doesnot always mean much.. My point is some Longbo 150's look just like a Roketa Fiji 150.. so you might be able to get Roketa parts.. many are interchangeable.. since they are all GY6 engines... except perhaps body parts.

Here is the Forum URL.. they are GREAT here.. very helpfull.

http://scootdawg.proboards59.com/index.cgi

Ken

Thanks Guys, not the answers I wanted....
I already posted on ScootDawg earlier and even asked if anyone lived near me to help rip the sucker apart and start over... No takers.... :cry:

If I only had an owners/service manual to show me how.. (I am one of those that always has leftover parts) :lol:
So, either I attempt to do it blind 8) and hope for the best, or I go with my real desire and look at a Qlink Legacy....

If anyone has heard or experienced those bikes, please let me know!

Again, thanks for your input - I'm always up to suggestions 8O

[katoranger]

If you are willing to give the repairs a shot and can take pictures for us we can help. I am not sure of any members in your area.

The carb is likely the electric choke and that is probably not working due to the wiring problems.

A new harness and battery will likely get you on the road.

I am not sure where to find parts for it though.

If you are done with it I will send someone to pick it up. :lol:

Allen

[katoranger]

You might find some help here. http://www.myvento.net/

They had some wiring diagrams for some scooters.

It appears that they concentrate on scooters like yours.

Allen

[LadyDi]

Well, I guess I forgot to say that the scooter is running - the carb/bowl/filter were all full of dirt (?).

Had new battery w/battery tender put in it before winter, that's no problem.. it holds a charge great.

Just the headlights don't work (I do have side lights and blinkers, and instrument panel lights)- I really don't think they would both burn out that soon at the same time?? and the only other problem is the gas gauge stays on full! something loose somewhere....

So, I'll check out the link that was given for diagrams/fuse location, etc..

I do know where to get parts without a problem, I already got some things from this place: www.partsforscooters.com
and there was another place that specialized in China scooter parts, but the name slips my mind right now...
Thanks again and will take some pics if it ever stops raining!!!

[katoranger]

Well the headlight is most likely a bad connection or maybe the switch, but I would test the bulb first.

Do you have a voltmeter?

They sell inexpensive digital ones at walmart. $20.

Check the bulb using the ohm setting. If the checks out then move down the line until you find power.

I am thinking that the one of the connecters behind the headlight is loose. My ground wire failed so I ran another one.

It sounds like you are getting it worked out.

Allen

[ChiGongJitsu]

a wiring diagram will definitely help you locate the problem, have you replaced the burnt out bulbs and did they just burn out again?

i don't know if there are multiple fuses on scooters, could be bad/cheap fuses that are causing the light problem

[LadyDi]

a wiring diagram will definitely help you locate the problem, have you replaced the burnt out bulbs and did they just burn out again?

i don't know if there are multiple fuses on scooters, could be bad/cheap fuses that are causing the light problem

Well that 's the whole idea - I need a wiring diagram or something to guide me - if I had it, I could do it, but I guess tomorrow I start ripping the thing apart if it isn't still raining! UGH :x

I don't know, do I start ripping the front end off to get to the wiring? I have a complete wire harness that was sent to me by accident when I asked for a replacement part for the side lite - duh!! :oops:

There, I added a pic of it (stock photo) but it's the one I got!

Thanks!

[ChiGongJitsu]

i'd remove as many panels as you can so you can see the whole wiring setup, then maybe use your spare harness as a guide?

probably the only way to do it is just start with obvious simple things that you're comfortable with doing, fuses, bulbs, etc...

Then if nothing works you could give a go at installing the new harness, but that may be a last resort

[Qingdao]

You said it is a "V-Bike". I haven't had any problems with mine, but the guy I bought it from, Tim, could supply parts.

http://www.vbikeusa.com/index.php

I do know V-Bikes use Roketa parts, and if you are looking for parts try taking the number off of the part and google searching it (its a shot the dark but hey who knows).

[LadyDi]

Oh here we go again, seems every 50 miles I have a problem! :twisted:

Riding down the highway tonight (beautiful full moon lit) doing just fine - then all of a sudden out of nowhere, it starts to sputter and died! So, I did the usual, pulled off the highway, set the center stand and tried it again, no soap, so I popped the plug, didn't look too bad but figured I'd change it anyhow (I learned early on to carry spare parts!).

Still nothing, so I coasted down the highway with the 4ways on, a biker stopped by, checked things out and said, "Hey lady, you got gas in this thing!)" :x (Typical BIKER)! That's the first thing I check before leaving home! DUH....

So I got to my destination by coasting (it was all down hill) :D
Got gas going to the pre-filter but no further like, to the fuel filter.
So, I checked all the lines, no kinks. Gas line from tank to pre-filter is fine but from there on, it's just a drip, drip, drip, into the fuel filter.

Well, I by-passed the pre-filter & went direct from gas tank to the fuel filter and it runs fine.

QUESTION of importance - is it safe to run it with the gas line directly from the tank to the fuel filter?

I don't want to catch my butt on fire :twisted: or something worse..

Any ideas, oh Great ones?? :?:

[VinceDrake]

As long as there's a fuel filter of some sort on it, I figure you should be okay, as long as the fuel line isn't running somewhere it shouldn't be, i.e. exhaust, etc.

Also, If it's plugged up the prefilter, chances are (to my thinking) there's got to be some tank-nasties going on in there. Might not be a bad idea to pull the tank (As painful as it ison a scoot) and give it a cleaning out.

Finally, maybe others have something different to say, but both my China-builts had what I thought were fuel filters, but on further examination, they turned out to be just screens. Not very freakin' fine screens at that. More like "Rediculously large chunk Catchers" Pretty freakin' lame.

***Individual Results May Vary...*** :D

--Vince

p.s. If it makes you feel any better, instead of "Any gas in it?" When I break down, I always get "I had a 1936 Indian, that did the same thing-- Had to put more peat in the steam chamber, Blah, blah, blah (Insert Horribly Obsolete Useless Information Here)" -VWD

[ChiGongJitsu]

is your float in your carb stuck? usually a good whack with a screwdriver will alleviate those kinds of problems

you could replace your fuel line and filter if you wanted to and still only spend like 10 bucks or so in the process

but a good cleaning of the filters will probably do the trick

[Dragon]

It sounds like the dealer did not properly prep the scooter.

[LadyDi]

How can I explain this- gas line comes out of gas tank, goes into silver unit about the size of a 1/2 dollar round, 3 nipples on it, one for gas tank line, one leads to fuel filter, the other I have no idea, I didn't follow it anywhere yet.
This is the unit that I by-passed, went right from the gas tank to the fuel filter (which is brand new), to the carb, and got it running.

So, the carb is fine - the gas filter is fine - I already did the gas tank cleaning, it's fine- the scoot runs fine with that multi-hose silver unit (which I am trying to ascertain if it is a pre-filter) I DON'T know....is it necessary? I can't find any documentation in any of the paperwork/sites that I have regarding parts!

Sorry to confuse everyone- The Longbo site below, shows it on the specs as a FUEL SWITCH, just before the fuel filter.
http://www.longboamerica.com/doc/LB150T-12.xls

Go to line 108 & see part #9... this may help


Thanks..

[Phil_R]

- gas line comes out of gas tank, goes into silver unit about the size of a 1/2 dollar round, 3 nipples on it, one for gas tank line, one leads to fuel filter, the other I have no idea, I didn't follow it anywhere yet.
Fuel Switch is a vacuum operated fuel shut-off valve. The third hose that you didn't trace should go to a vacuum source. With engine running you should feel suction at this hose... if no suction, hose may be kinked, pinched, or disconnected. If suction present at hose, then Fuel Switch is likely problem... either faulty, or vacuum hose connected to the wrong outlet.

[Dragon]

I reckon you can run temporarily without the fuel switch. However, I would replace it ASAP. It is there to protect your engine from getting flooded with gasoline, in the event of carburetor failure.

[Dragon]

OK, I OWN (sorry to say) THIS SCOOTER (piece of crap that it is).. I swear it is possessed! :twisted:
Nothing has gone right since the day I got it! :cry:

Did I mention it's trash & I'm sorry I bought it? :?: :?:

No, your scooter is not possessed. It's typical of china bikes, especially if it is not prepped properly. My Hi-Bird has a lot of problems also, but I'm working 'em out slowly. By the time all the problems are fixed (very soon), I'd have a pretty sweet bike.

[LadyDi]

Thanks Dragon and Phil!
If/where ever I can find one, I will replace it as soon as I can.

Is there a way to check and see if it may be clogged like the gas filter was? I ran into that problem early on and I too, am learning to do as I go along. That's why I carry spares!! ha ha

Some day I will be able to ride without something going wrong with it...

Thanks!

[ChiGongJitsu]

can you maybe replace that fuel cutoff with a regular petcock, like from a dirtbike?

that way you can just manually turn your gas on when you go to ride, and off when you are parked

[LadyDi]

yep , talking back and forth between here and ScootDawg, that's the route I am going to take... heading to the auto parts and mower shop tomorrow!!!!! :wink:

thanks all for the help this is a great thing going~ :lol:

[ChiGongJitsu]

sweet, let us know how the installation goes.

[dr1445]

many yamaha dirt bike and atv petcocks work on suzuki dirt bikes. they run around $20 vs $70 for the suzuki. the yam petcocks do not have a vacuum line, so if you have a vacuum line on your petcock it needs to be capped or plugged. i have no idea if the yam petcock will fit your application.

[LadyDi]

Alllllrighty then.... :D I finally got the gas lines changed (goodyear braided fuel injection $4 a foot!) But WOW what a difference....

Yes, I remembered to change the oil - (6 oz Lucas/18 oz 15-40) as the mfg. recommends for the 300 mile change...

While I was at it, I changed the plug and fuel filter to start fresh as a daisy... :wink:
Put the petcock shut off in a spot that I just reach below the back of the side panel & turn it off/on - it can't be seen from outsiders.. :D Capped off the vacuum line/bled the fuel line.

Took me all of an hour to get everything done - then the fun began trying to get the idle set down - holy cow :o with the new fuel line and no vac it wanted to run away on me! But with some patience and a few choice words, I got it set just right.....

Took it for a short run just to make sure it wouldn't stall on me or lose power & it's running like a top.... A Chinese top that is.... :P

So, once again, thanks to all you fellow scoots out there for all your help, advice & chuckles..... I'm learning as I go and just bc I'm a female, doesn't mean "I ain't willin' to try!!" 8O

As Arnie says: "I'LL BE BACH" ;) :)

Thanks again y'all ! Di

[ChiGongJitsu]

nice job, your idle will be set best when the bike is warmed up

so if you let it warm up and you ride it around, then you can set the idle perfectly, but most of the time you can get really close just after the bike warms up

[LadyDi]

That's what I did, took it for a short run and then adjusted the idle - but I was taught a long, long time ago while working on classic cars, to set it by sound and vibration - that's what I did and it is just fine. 8)

(Who needs to count 3 clicks left, 2 clicks right) bah! :lol:

Just that once I got rid of the vacuum line and the fuel line is unobstructed, it just wanted to run, run, run!

I say, " 'Bout Time"! :lol:

[ChiGongJitsu]

lol

a happy bike makes a happy rider :lol: