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Still Riding
10-13-2024, 12:31 AM
Who knows about this new(?) bike? Looks like a Templar 250 X with a 300cc fuel injected, 4 valve head, water cooled, 6 speed, counter ballanced.
https://www.powersportsmax.com/product_info.php/cPath/761/products_id/26793

Megadan
10-13-2024, 01:36 AM
Looks pretty sweet. 25kw is 33.5hp. Not too shabby.

bigdano711
10-13-2024, 03:12 AM
That is the sweet spot. Just wish it was air cooled.

buzz
10-13-2024, 09:07 AM
No reviews,don't think any were sold.

Still Riding
10-13-2024, 09:45 AM
I saw this bike on the power sports website for the first time yesterday. It seems to be a fairly recent addition to their line up. Is there any history with this engine?

bigdano711
10-13-2024, 10:20 AM
Waitwaitwait a second. Wasn't Paladin the name of a show from WAY back? Black and white. Have gun will travel?


NO! PALADIN WAS DUDE'S NAME!! LOLOLOL

Thumper
10-13-2024, 11:06 AM
Hmm? This is enough to overlook my fear of EFI. 6 speed counterbalanced 4 valve engine, and liquid cooling (which is awesome for off road slow trail riding, just add a fan).

I found a Loncin engine that seems to match.

Loncin KE300F (https://www.loncinindustries.com/en/motocycle_engine/ProductDetail.aspx?catid=509-512-520-571-2146820474#proFlag)

If this is the same engine, that bore x stroke is oversquare which will allow higher rpm. Their plot of power versus rpm goes to nearly 10k rpm! Shorter stroke also means a shorter cylinder, more room up top for valve access. Nice.

At 78mm x 61.2mm, it has 292.4 cc displacement calculated on the Spicer displacement calculator (https://spicerparts.com/calculators/engine-displacement-calculator) (if this is indeed the same engine). It does look like the same engine.

This is a promising development.

Mumen Rider
10-13-2024, 12:47 PM
It's a Kawasaki KLX300 engine clone, same bore and stroke.


This engine is NOT EPA certified to the best of my knowledge so it'll end up being an Orion 250 Loncin situation where if you do get it registered they will end up revoking it eventually.

Still Riding
10-13-2024, 02:11 PM
The Power Sports website lists this bike as EPA certified but not CARB certified.


My Templar 250X came EPA certified...as an off road only mc. With a MSO stating "motorcycle" I easily obtained an Oregon license plate and title.

Mumen Rider
10-13-2024, 02:21 PM
Your Templar X 250 also has an engine stamped with the wrong code to avoid EPA certification for a newer engine model. The boxes all state off-road only and you had to specifically ask for an MSO saying "motorcycle" because the default is "off-road motorcycle".

J4Fun
10-13-2024, 02:34 PM
I’ll bet that getting a tag for road use here in FL would be difficult. And I bet that seat height would be difficult too…

zero_dgz
10-14-2024, 11:33 AM
Wow, it appears to actually have a kill switch. The Chinese are getting very sophisticated these days.

This appears to lack some street legal equipment for my state including a chain guard, full rear fender, reflectors, and the turn signals are too small to even meet DOT requirements. All this is the same as my Orion was. In fact, the signals and dash cluster appear identical, and possibly also the mirrors.

Still, I think with some basic modifications and bullying the seller into putting "motorcycle" on the MCO I might be able to get it rammed through here. Very interesting.


If this actually makes 33 horsepower I will eat my hat. A real KLX300 only makes like 24, tops. But if it does, I'll also buy one right now.

Thumper
10-14-2024, 11:45 AM
The power curve is there, just scroll down in the embedded window (link below). They are definitely claiming peak of 25kW. I see the curve is a linear build. It looks like about 26 hp at 7000 rpm (20kW).

Loncin KE300F (https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_172892059500511&key=34762fb5761dc247f55c8a8e247c5fb4&libId=m296jigi0100j7ij000ULkscmooqs&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2Fshowthread .php%3Ft%3D34826&v=1&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.loncinindustries.com%2Fen%2F motocycle_engine%2FProductDetail.aspx%3Fcatid%3D50 9-512-520-571-2146820474%23proFlag&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinariders.net%2Fforumdispl ay.php%3Ff%3D101&title=Paladin%20300%20-%20ChinaRiders%20Forums&txt=%3Cb%3ELoncin%20KE300F%3C%2Fb%3E)

LowBrewTow
10-16-2024, 09:31 AM
Has anyone made a purchase on one? I am new to this forum and have never ridden a dirt bike. I was planning on purchasing a Templar X but for not much more $ the Paladin is very enticing. Looking at the specs it is listed as weighing the exact same as the Templar X which is odd.

buzz
10-16-2024, 05:20 PM
no one has this bike .They would have braged about it

Mumen Rider
10-17-2024, 04:04 PM
Has anyone made a purchase on one? I am new to this forum and have never ridden a dirt bike. I was planning on purchasing a Templar X but for not much more $ the Paladin is very enticing. Looking at the specs it is listed as weighing the exact same as the Templar X which is odd.


I placed an order today. If you only have experience on street bikes, the height and seating position of a dirt bike will be a big change for you.



no one has this bike .They would have braged about it


Give me about three weeks. ;)

panzer77
10-18-2024, 04:02 PM
X-Pro site also has it but no pictures yet. In-stock and free shipping $2999.95, so about $100 less.
Link:
https://xprousa.com/products/x-pro-paladin-300?variant=50466400960672

panzer77
10-18-2024, 04:39 PM
Templar X Vs. Paladin
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OvvIEALQraB3s1huB4O5Q5kJWpEqpBCI/view?usp=drive_link

Mumen Rider
10-18-2024, 04:56 PM
X-Pro site also has it but no pictures yet. In-stock and free shipping $2999.95, so about $100 less.
Link:
https://xprousa.com/products/x-pro-paladin-300?variant=50466400960672


That price is going to be corrected once they realize their error between PSM and xprousa. Lucky for me they honored the original $2600 price before raising it to $2800 on PSM.

Weresquatch
10-18-2024, 06:17 PM
Templar X Vs. Paladin
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OvvIEALQraB3s1huB4O5Q5kJWpEqpBCI/view?usp=drive_link

You might want to adjust the sharing privileges if you'd like people to see this.

Weresquatch
10-18-2024, 06:19 PM
That price is going to be corrected once they realize their error between PSM and xprousa. Lucky for me they honored the original $2600 price before raising it to $2800 on PSM.

I feel like I *just* got my X where I want it (pending one battery swap). The 300 looks much more like what I was after....sigh....come summer maybe I'll sell the X and just ride it until then.

LowBrewTow
10-18-2024, 09:06 PM
I placed an order today. If you only have experience on street bikes, the height and seating position of a dirt bike will be a big change for you.






Give me about three weeks. ;)

What color did you get?

Mumen Rider
10-18-2024, 09:46 PM
I went with black, I think it looks the best. Almost pulled the trigger on red. I'll probably end up buying one of the Russian brands graphics though, they look so much better.


Xpro website price raised now.

LowBrewTow
10-19-2024, 12:55 PM
I went with black, I think it looks the best. Almost pulled the trigger on red. I'll probably end up buying one of the Russian brands graphics though, they look so much better.


Xpro website price raised now.



What Russian decals are you referring to? I’m not a big fan of the stock decals.

Mumen Rider
10-19-2024, 03:24 PM
Zuumav, Progasi, Regulmoto, etc.

CC-John
10-19-2024, 07:17 PM
I'm looking to put new graphics on my Templar X. Not a fan of the gaudy "X-Pro" badging on the Templar graphics, and mine have been a nonstop battle to keep them stuck down. Don't think they cleaned the plastics very well before applying the graphics.

I'd love to have a set of the Zuumav graphics for the X7 (Templar X), but haven't found any online anywhere.

Crossbar
10-19-2024, 09:26 PM
..been a nonstop battle to keep them stuck down. Don't think they cleaned the plastics very well before applying the graphics.



Same here, I've already just peeled off the head light and fender graphics; probably will have to do the same for the tank.

CC-John
10-19-2024, 11:18 PM
Same here, I've already just peeled off the head light and fender graphics; probably will have to do the same for the tank.

I've already stripped all the graphics off of mine. Like you, the headlight and fender graphics "went away" first as they were peeling the worst. Finally peeled off all the rest last week as I was fed up with seeing all the curling edges on the tank shrouds and side panels.

I'm seriously thinking of getting a set of '07-'09 RM-Z 250 plastics in the OEM Suzuki colors and putting the full OEM Suzuki graphics kit on it as I'm not a big fan of monochrome black bikes. Later on I might even take the frame and rear swingarm over to a local powdercoater and have it blasted and recoated in silver powdercoat to look like the aluminum frame on the RMZ's.

Here's a couple pics of what I'm shooting for, a stock 2008 RM-Z 250. The bright yellow will definitely get noticed on the street. :tup: