Zongshen

[allmotor]

I have searched over 30 pages of forums and haven't seen much about zongshen... if you ride a zongshen please chime in with wha your takes on your bike is please.

[dieselhead]

Hi,
I have a 200 dirt bike that is a copy of the Honda CRF100 for my son and a 150 ATV Manual trans. for my daughter and both of these Zongshen engines start and run flawlessly. This is my first year running these units so I can't speak for longevity. The 200 engine in my Lifan enduro is identical to the dirt bike aside from the Lifan is a 163-FML and the Zong is a 167-FML engine. Its possible this particular Lifan engine is also make by Zongshen.

[allmotor]

sounds good... keep them coming!

[red2003]

Zongshen engine / tranny in my Roketa. Bulletproof and smoother then the Lifans. No tranny trouble like the Lifans have either.

[TheBrainII]

Zongshen engine / tranny in my Roketa. Bulletproof and smoother then the Lifans. No tranny trouble like the Lifans have either.
Whats this tranny trouble you keep mentioning? What should we be looking out for?

[red2003]

Several Lifan owners, our Moderator Frostbite included, have had Lifan trannies crap the bed. Not sure how widespread a problem it is, but it seems to effect the Lifans primarily.

[allmotor]

so if you had to reccomend a dual sport bike based on your expierence what would you say? What have you've ridden?

[allmotor]

so are the Qlink and Sierra 200 the same bike?

[yurkia]

I have a zongshen 200cc dirtbike (sorry no dual-sport, hehe ). I absolutely love it. plenty of power and top end for a dirtbike. Kind of a heavy bike. but great for the trails.

[allmotor]

nice nice so how many people that owned Zongshen's had major issues... I'm reading thumpertalk and cycle cruisers and they bash Zshen to hell.

[theENIGMATIC]

I think if you look forward to a great Chinese- with Japanese class- Enduro to hit the American market it will be a Zongshen......thats all I know!:)

[allmotor]

^^^ you lost me ^^^ are you saying it's a good bike ?

[maf119l]

I have a 200cc zongshen in a 4 wheeler.Does not have near as much power as my lifan.Even after doing the c-clip mod still under powered.Only ran it a couple of hours.May get better the more i run it.Thats the way my Lifan and Johnny Pag both did.

[fatboy250]

Red2003 and I have the exact same bike and I have right at 15k miles on mine. Dad has over 10k on his. I would recommend them to anyone. You will however still have to deal with the little china bike issues that we all have.

[allmotor]

alright sounds good... well i see alot of people really like the qlink is the motor and tranny the same as the zonshen motor and tranny>?

[Trebek]

Don't forget Hi-Bird/Komoto, they have Zongchen (sp?) motors. Very happy with the bike and motor so far.

[allmotor]

wait wait wait... Hi Bird and Komoto all have Zongshen motors?? So these are really good motors then? So then this leads to me to ask why doesn't more people own/ride zongshen bikes?

[bex]

I own a Zongshen Sierra 200cc bike, and totally love it! I have put on a total, up to today, 142miles on her, and she is feeling better everyday.

I also looked at the Lifan prior to my purchase, but with the seat height of the Lifan, and the looks of the Zong, I decided to get the Sierra 200. Couldn't have been happier.

I must add that the height of the Lifan put me off because I am a beginner motorcyclist practically, with 14yrs out the saddle and just getting back in to fight the fuel price surge.

Here is a link to some photos of my Sierra 200cc.

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4522

[alonzo]

if the lifan transmission is something that really concerns you, don't let it too much. I have over 2,000 miles on my lucy lu and she has done nothing but love me long time 1.400 dollar! I have the link to the trans mod if I ever need it. but I think she is a good machine even if it isn't zongshen status.

[culcune]

alright sounds good... well i see alot of people really like the qlink is the motor and tranny the same as the zonshen motor and tranny>?

No, Qlink is a re-badged Qingqi. Qingqi is actually the OEM for Suzuki's DR200 engine and frame, so you are getting Suzuki quality at half-price.

[Jim]

Zongshen engine / tranny in my Roketa. Bulletproof and smoother then the Lifans. No tranny trouble like the Lifans have either.

My atv has a zongschen engine and no problems so far... Though I should also mention I've had 2 lifans with no transmission issues either.

[tcs]

The Zongshen Sierra 200 (which was sold for a while as the QLINK XRanger) uses a Zongshen-built copy of the Yamaha TW200 engine/transmission design.

Yes, some other Zongshen models use Zongshen-built copies of Honda engine/transmission designs.

Zongshen claims that their newest models (not seen in N.A. yet) use Zongshen designed, proprietary engines/transmissions.

tcs

[allmotor]

I own a Zongshen Sierra 200cc bike, and totally love it! I have put on a total, up to today, 142miles on her, and she is feeling better everyday.

I also looked at the Lifan prior to my purchase, but with the seat height of the Lifan, and the looks of the Zong, I decided to get the Sierra 200. Couldn't have been happier.

I must add that the height of the Lifan put me off because I am a beginner motorcyclist practically, with 14yrs out the saddle and just getting back in to fight the fuel price surge.

Here is a link to some photos of my Sierra 200cc.

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4522

What kind of mods do you have if any? What crusing speed are you at? have you've tried contacting bruce for new sprockets?

[allmotor]

The Zongshen Sierra 200 (which was sold for a while as the QLINK XRanger) uses a Zongshen-built copy of the Yamaha TW200 engine/transmission design.

Yes, some other Zongshen models use Zongshen-built copies of Honda engine/transmission designs.

Zongshen claims that their newest models (not seen in N.A. yet) use Zongshen designed, proprietary engines/transmissions.

tcs
So the 2006 Sierra 200 did it come with the Yamaha OHC TW-200 motor?? If so can the TW-200 parts be installed into this motor?

[katoranger]

The Zongshen Sierra 200 (which was sold for a while as the QLINK XRanger) uses a Zongshen-built copy of the Yamaha TW200 engine/transmission design.

Yes, some other Zongshen models use Zongshen-built copies of Honda engine/transmission designs.

Zongshen claims that their newest models (not seen in N.A. yet) use Zongshen designed, proprietary engines/transmissions.

tcs
So the 2006 Sierra 200 did it come with the Yamaha OHC TW-200 motor?? If so can the TW-200 parts be installed into this motor?

I believe so. Member SamM had pretty much verified it.

Allen

[allmotor]

alright... so why isn't there more forum members riding this enduro? I know it's prefrence but hey i'll ask anyways

[katoranger]

They were not as common as the rest of the GY bikes. The lifan styled bikes with honda styled engines are much more common.

Allen

[Wool-Z]

I got the sierra 200, n it's great. 50 mi on my bike n the only problem was when odometer stuck. I'm not sure where i live in PA people even know any of these china bikes exist. My bike is orange n black so everyone thinks it's a KTM till they actualy look at it.

[allmotor]

lol i'm going to pick up an orange one too. But i'm just scared cause the guy is not an authorized dealer and said these are the "close out" bikes. He is a whole saler and gets all kinds of random things... hand soap, cups, plates, pens, and what not that you would find at the dollar store and liquidation world/stupid prices... but he go in contact with a whole saler that has a bunch of Sierra 200's and i just don't want to get a beat up bike... its brand new in the crate still...

[Rizn]

sierra 200 owners beware, depending on which year bike u got, make sure and take care of it because I havent heard anything good about them, havent heard of one person making it over 3000 miles, plus they are a heavy and underpowered bike, not talking about zongshen motors, ive heard plenty good about them, jsut not the sierra

[allmotor]

intresting.. how many miles does everyone have??

[allmotor]

sierra 200 owners beware, depending on which year bike u got, make sure and take care of it because I havent heard anything good about them, havent heard of one person making it over 3000 miles, plus they are a heavy and underpowered bike, not talking about zongshen motors, ive heard plenty good about them, jsut not the sierra

anymore information on what you are talking about here? I really didn't see much when i was searching about the bike. does the motor/engine go bad after 3000miles or is it the bike frame? Which years should we look out for??

[Jim]

The motor in my atv is a 200 cc water cooled engine 4 spd with reverse... Only a low number of km's though since I just got it...

[allmotor]

i want to hear from anyone who has a Sierra 200.. the newer model that looks like the Qlink... not the x-ranger but the newer Sierra... not to diss any other zongshen motors. What was the production years that we should avoid?

[joek]

What dealer has these?
http://www.zongsheninternational.com/WEBTEST/Portals/0/EN/P_ZSPowerS/mo-offroad/200-250/zs200gy-2_b_y.gif

these look real interesting
http://www.zongsheninternational.com/WEBTEST/Portals/0/EN/p-Banner/motor/cyclone/257/zs125ys10gf-p29.jpg

[bex]

i want to hear from anyone who has a Sierra 200.. the newer model that looks like the Qlink... not the ranger that looked like the hi-bird... not to diss any other zongshen motors.

A friend of mine has a Zongshen Sierra 200, black, just like the one that I have and popularly advertised on the net. He has 1800+ miles on his bike, and its running super smooth.

I think these bikes are pretty nice, more pricey than other GY bikes, but I like their styling and build quality.

[tcs]

these look real interesting

Ah, the new ZS125/150GY-10 Cyclone, Zongshen's liquid cooled, proprietary design dual sport/MX bike. It's "coming soon" all over the world, but I don't think it has broken cover anywhere yet. The more expensive models (with the yellow body work) have aluminum frames.

tcs

[allmotor]

any other zongshen 200 riders out there??

[katoranger]

One more comment. Those sierra models use an old size tires.

Allen

[mrhyak]

There were some advertised on ebay a few months ago for around $900 + shipping and they said they had 25 of them and they were located in WA. I never did see any more ebay sales after the initial one, but someone is selling them in Eastern WA on craigslist and I'd guess they are the same ones.

[allmotor]

Mr.Hyak what are you riding on?? So are in Hyak near the summit??

[mrhyak]

Mr.Hyak what are you riding on?? So are in Hyak near the summit??

I ride a Tank Trail 200 which I believe is a Zongshen bike. I have a cabin at
Hyak and do most of my trail riding up there. I have a website I've been
running for more then 10 years http://www.hyak.net for my other favorite
hobby.

[allmotor]

cool...
so guys which year's 200's should i watch out for? I mean the x-ranger had a bad rep but isn't the sierra the "better" version now?

[mrhyak]

cool...
so guys which year's 200's should i watch out for? I mean the x-ranger had a bad rep but isn't the sierra the "better" version now?

I don't think there really is a 'bad year' for these China bikes. You will find
good and/or bad rep's for almost any bike depending on what threads you
read. The "Tank bikes $uck" thread was popular for awhile, then the
"X-Ranger is cr@p" thread was popular for awhile, and so on.


All of these bikes are pretty much the same, only the dealer network (or
lack there of) is the biggest difference. ALL CHINA BIKES need more TLC
then the Japanese bikes and thus the cheap price.


Chinese bike makers don't have model bikes for specific years, the
Chinese bike makers don't think in terms like that. They offer specific
options and it is up to the importer as to what the bike comes with, engine,
shocks, brakes, frame, etc. The options change over the years, but this
is why you will see so many different configurations for pretty much the
same bike. Many importers stick their own brand name sticker on the bike
too which is why you may find the same type of bike under different
names.


When it comes to China bikes, there are no rules or standards.

[Rizn]

anymore information on what you are talking about here? I really didn't see much when i was searching about the bike. does the motor/engine go bad after 3000miles or is it the bike frame? Which years should we look out for??[/quote]

Sorry I was including the xranger in that as well, but I have heard of electrical problems on both bikes and personaly tested a sierra 2007, it was a much heavier bike,least it felt like it,could be wrong,been wrong before :oops:

[allmotor]

well i'll be getting this bike soon if the guy still has it after 4th of july.... and on so has anyone ever changed the sprockets and what speeds they have clocked this bike at?

[tcs]

Those Sierra models use an old size tires.

"Old"? Or "odd"?

The 18/15 sizes are common on small to medium displacement cruisers - the popular and long lived Honda Rebel uses them, for one - so street tires for the Sierra are easy. But yeah, there's not great selection in 18/15 knobbies and d/s tires.

tcs

[allmotor]

so there are only a hand full of sierra 200's on the forum huh?

[katoranger]

Yes I meant odd. That size tire is tough to find in knobbies or dual sport. Not much selection like the 21/18 sized tires.

Allen

[bex]

Have to agree with Kato...the tire combo on the Sierra is awful hard to match up. I have found that the best option is to stick with the OEM fitment Cheng Shen Barracuda 6.

The street tires I got with mine are pretty solid, no doubt.

The dealer I got mine from in Miami does stock knobbies as well though, it was my choice which tire I got at purchase.

[allmotor]

so Bex, what is the highest speed you've got out of your Sierra? Any sprocket change?

[bex]

Strictly stock on my Zong at the moment. Have achieved 65mph but wasnt for very long, just to pass a car on the highway. I am still breaking in the motor, so I have never tried WOT yet.

My friend has a Sierra 200 as well, and he has gotten the bike to peg at the end of the speedo, so I think they can go pretty fast, just takes time to build up the speed.

[allmotor]

nice! Well i just wanted to get the bike for communitng from home to work for the summer... I'm usually stuck in traffic... so 60 and under most of the time but sometimes 65 so what kind of sprocket came on the bike?

[bex]

Honestly...I cant tell you the sprocket setup...just dont know. When my friend comes back in from Florida, I'll ask him, he had his totally disassembled for shipping.

[allmotor]

cool keep me posted.

[max_damage]

I own a Zongshen 200gy-2 (supermoto).
So far 10 000km, not a single problem :D
Here are the pics
http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=7791

[allmotor]

I own a Zongshen 200gy-2 (supermoto).
So far 10 000km, not a single problem :D
Here are the pics
http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=7791

WOW thats what i wanted to hear!! someone that has a Sierra... what kind of speeds have you've seen with this bad boy?

[allmotor]

so bex anyword of if your buddy has any mods on his bike?

[walkingdude]

check this out. zongshen seems to be pretty substantial.

http://www.zongsheninternational.com/webtest/Company/MediaRelations/tabid/90/Default.aspx

[max_damage]

I own a Zongshen 200gy-2 (supermoto).
So far 10 000km, not a single problem :D
Here are the pics
http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=7791

WOW thats what i wanted to hear!! someone that has a Sierra... what kind of speeds have you've seen with this bad boy?
max 120 km/h

[bex]

so bex anyword of if your buddy has any mods on his bike?

Nah, he has no mods at all on his bike. But he is back in town and going to remove my stock air box to put in a UNI pod filter. I will take pics and document the removal/install.

Hoping since I am at sea level I wont need to rejet or move the C-Clip up in the carb, just a plug and play move.

I have purchased a used FMF Q2 exhaust and will most def need a jet kit for my carb when that goes on. Will keep you posted.

[allmotor]

o yea that sounds cool.. Let me know how that FMF sounds..

[allmotor]

I own a Zongshen 200gy-2 (supermoto).
So far 10 000km, not a single problem :D
Here are the pics
http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=7791

WOW thats what i wanted to hear!! someone that has a Sierra... what kind of speeds have you've seen with this bad boy?
max 120 km/h
Is that at a constant speed or just peaking out?? And any kind of mods?

[bex]

allmotor:

The bike comes stock with a 46T/428 rear sprocket.

Sadly, we had to abort the air filter mod to the UNI pod filter because the air box provides structural support for some internal parts i.e. rear inner fender and the battery box.

It could be done, but you would have to cut the stock box to make it happen. Decided against that for the time being!

[allmotor]

no prob thanks for the info... When i get my bike...sigh...i will hop it all up... my girls B-day is the 10 of july so i'll have to wait since i'm paying off half of her car... sad times... but the week after i'll be hopefully picking up my bike.

[katoranger]

You could remove the airbox and make supports from some home depot pipe hangers.


Allen

[bex]

Here is a breakdown pic from the Zongshen site showing the airbox and how its built.

http://parts.zongsheninternational.com/MakeImage.aspx?ImageNo=00001790&width=560&height=420

http://parts.zongsheninternational.com/MakeImage.aspx?ImageNo=00001790&width=560&height=420

We had an option to hack the stock airbox up, but I didn't want to risk it since there could have been a running issue if the carb need to be tuned or up jetted. Perhaps a bit later i'll have the minerals to get it done. :^/

[allmotor]

intresting...

[allmotor]

any updates?

[bex]

Decided totally against the mod of the airbox. Right now its a bad week for the Zong. I must have had a mental jam, didnt lock the kick stand down all the way and the bike fell off the stand and bent the handlebar.

Ordering my replacement parts from the Miami Importer tomorrow. Total parts bill is $58.00.

[iMoose]

Ordering my replacement parts from the Miami Importer tomorrow. Total parts bill is $58.00.

I'm in Florida, what's the dealer's name? Website? I dig ze Zongshens! But no dealer close has anything but the street bikes. Help?

[allmotor]

Decided totally against the mod of the airbox. Right now its a bad week for the Zong. I must have had a mental jam, didnt lock the kick stand down all the way and the bike fell off the stand and bent the handlebar.

Ordering my replacement parts from the Miami Importer tomorrow. Total parts bill is $58.00.

now that sucks... you should be back up and riding soon.

[bex]

Allmotor:

Yeah it totally bites being sidelined for a freaking accident of the mind, but hey it happens. I am in possession of my FMF Q2 so I will take the down time to size her up and then once back on the street get the new exhaust welded on.

iMoose:

The importer for the zongshen brand is in miami, www.zongshenamerica.com telephone them at (305) 500-9989 ask for Manny, he does parts at the warehouse.

[iMoose]

Allmotor:
The importer for the zongshen brand is in miami, www.zongshenamerica.com telephone them at (305) 500-9989 ask for Manny, he does parts at the warehouse.


Thank you!!!!! :D

[allmotor]

any updates?

[SpudRider]

Hello,

I have been lurking, reading the threads. Thanks to the information in this thread and elsewhere on China Riders, I just ordered a new, in-the-crate, 2006 Zongshen Sierra 200. My bike is being delivered with the street tires. Can anyone tell me, where is a good place to buy the knobbie tires? Thanks for all you help.

:D Spud

[katoranger]

You can try www.americanmototire.com , but I don't know if they have the size you need.

Allen

[bex]

Just wanted to share my experience with Zongshen America, and the ability to obtain spares for the Sierra 200.

Started on the 8 July when I placed an email requesting the necessary parts for my bike. Handlebar and gear shift foot lever bent when she fell off the side stand (i didnt lock it down properly).

14 July parts were shipped via DHL to me, had to travel so didnt get the package until the 18th.

20th, bike repaired to 100% working order, and I am back on the road.

My fears of not having a source for parts was a big concern when purchasing the bike, so its a real comfort to know that I can email the importer in Miami, send a parts request, and can expect my parts with 10days, overnight delivery internationally, I live in the Bahamas, not the USA.

Now, I have the time to start my exhaust project, to change out to the FMF pipe.

[forchetto]

Not really a dual-sport, but this little bike, being a modern version of a Honda Cub and bought at a knock down price of 895 euros as they can´t sell them in Spain due to its ugliness, is , for me, the bargain of the century.
Incredible specification including a sewing-machine smooth, automatic clutch 125 cc engine, fairing and chain enclosure, USD forks, remote reservoir rear shocks, double disc brakes, two carriers, gear indicator, rear box, centre and side stands, electric and kickstart and even things like a mobile phone call indicator light...
It has the odd styling feature, like the exhaust is shaped like a two-stroke expansion chamber, although it's a 4-stroke.

http://www.telecable.es/personales/amvelectronica/qingqi/zongshenzs125-43.JPG

[tcs]

It has the odd styling feature, like the exhaust is shaped like a two-stroke expansion chamber, although it's a 4-stroke.

Those four stroke exhausts styled to look like two stroke exhausts seem to be all the rage in China/Indonesia/Malaysia/Thailand.

tcs

[SpudRider]

My 2006 Zongshen Sierra arrived six days ago, but my mechanic friend and I were both out of town until last evening. Therefore, we waited until today to assemble my motorcycle.

This afternoon I contacted the County Sheriff’s Office and arranged for a Vehicle Identification Number inspection. Thirty minutes after I called the sheriff, a deputy arrived at my friend’s shop and completed the VIN Inspection.

I then traveled to my Idaho County Assessor’s office. I presented the Manufacturer’s Certificate of Origin (MCO), a bill of sale, and the completed Vehicle Identification Number Inspection form. After ten minutes of paperwork I left the office with my license plate, vehicle registration and off-road sticker. May God bless the great, free, Western State of Idaho! I then went to my insurance agent and got Cadillac coverage for the Zongshen for a mere $50 every six months!

:D

After work my friend uncrated the bike, and he assembled it while I assisted. Everything went smoothly, with one exception; we had to make a longer cable to replace the original cable going from the solenoid to the positive terminal of the battery.

When the battery was placed in its under-seat container with the terminals fore, a plastic projection from the battery extended over the bike’s frame. This projection prevented us from replacing the seat onto the motorcycle. Therefore, we rotated the battery 180 degrees, and placed it into its container with the battery terminals aft. The plastic projection now extended to the left, and we could replace the seat. The negative battery cable was long enough, but my friend needed to create a new, longer battery cable to reach the positive terminal.

After we made several test rides, I rode the bike away from the shop. I was enjoying myself so much that I continued riding for a total of 37 kilometers this evening.

At this point I am very pleased with my new Zongshen. The electric start works great; the bike starts easily and quickly every time. The gearbox shifts smoothly, and I have no trouble whatsoever finding neutral when the bike is stopped. The engine is smooth and responsive. I weigh 230 pounds, and I can easily get the bike to reach 60 mph on level ground. The brakes work great, as do the turn signals. The headlight on this motorcycle is superb!

:D

When I get my new digital camera I will post some pictures. I am still awaiting the arrival of my DOT knobby tires before I take the bike off-road.

:D

[IronFist]

" I left the office with my license plate"

That has got to be a better feeling than the day you received the bike. It sure was for me. :D For me the licence plate changes garage clutter into a motorcycle.

[SpudRider]

IronFist wrote, "That has got to be a better feeling than the day you received the bike. It sure was for me. For me the licence plate changes garage clutter into a motorcycle."

Amen. :D :D :D

[bex]

Enjoy your Zong Spud! I have about 520+miles on my Sierra now and fully enjoying the bike...Congrats on your purchase

[SpudRider]

Thank you, bex! :D

I went for a little road trip this evening, about sixty miles out and back. After I returned home, I rode around town a little bit. All told, I probably traveled about 140 miles. :D

Today I found that I could cruise all day at 60 mph, and I even pegged the speedometer at 72 mph on several occasions. :D

I really enjoy the gearbox on this bike. Shifting is always reliable, and I never have problems finding neutral.

If the other vendor ever sends me the knobby tires I ordered, I plan to go off-road. The Cheng Shin Barracuda tires that came with my bike are very nice for the street, but I really don't want to take them into the dirt.

I have found that I especially enjoy riding the Zong while exploring town after dark. The headlamp and turn signals on this bike are excellent.

However, I do wish the fuel tank were larger. I had to go onto the reserve tank this evening when I temporarily forgot my plans to fuel up. :oops:

Spud :wink:

[bex]

Yeah...reserve caught me off guard once or twice as well. I currently get about 150-160miles on a tank and often have to adjust my routes to ensure I can top off prior to an enroute shutdown to switch to the reserve tank (hell its not a KLR with a 6.1Gal tank) wishing it was a bit better but cie la vie...One thing is certain, I love my Zong, but the KLR is my next bike purchase!!!

[max_damage]

I own a Zongshen 200gy-2 (supermoto).
So far 10 000km, not a single problem :D
Here are the pics
http://www.chinariders.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=7791

WOW thats what i wanted to hear!! someone that has a Sierra... what kind of speeds have you've seen with this bad boy?
max 120 km/h
Is that at a constant speed or just peaking out?? And any kind of mods?
Well, peaking out. Constant speed is about 105 km/h

[SpudRider]

Max,

Thanks for posting the great photos of your Zong! Please tell us more about the modifications you made on your taillight and turn signals. Also, what is the name and model number for your replacement mirrors? Do they work well? Where do you get them, and how much do they cost?

Spud :D

[max_damage]

Max,

Thanks for posting the great photos of your Zong! Please tell us more about the modifications you made on your taillight and turn signals. Also, what is the name and model number for your replacement mirrors? Do they work well? Where do you get them, and how much do they cost?

Spud :D
Well, Led stop light i bought from here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D 110203234472%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=110203234472

Turn signals from here:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-PAIRS-4X-MOTORCYCLE-TURN-SIGNALS-ARROW-FLASHERS_W0QQitemZ230275459497QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3 5598QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l 1262

Mirrors from here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMAHA-Scooter-Aero-Black-motorcycle-Mirrors-10mm_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35598QQihZ011QQite mZ320280785466QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
You need to buy 8mm fine thread

Mirrors are kind of short and small, i need to buy a bigger ones.

bye[/url]

[katoranger]

How does the LED taillight work?

I may add one for additional brakelight visability.

Allen

[max_damage]

How does the LED taillight work?

I may add one for additional brakelight visability.

Allen
They work whell, just buy one with red plastic cover (not transparent).

[cmike]

I purchased a 2006 ZS 200 Black and Orange a few weeks ago new in crate. This was a pretty big leap of faith for me; as I have not seen one of the bikes in person, and I have never even ridden on a motorcycle before.

The dealer arranged for me to pick it up directly from Zongshen at their Memphis warehouse. $1398 OTD . I'm still waiting for the MSO :(

I found out the crate will fit in a the bed of a full sized pickup truck, but the metal feet will scratch the hell out of the paint. Good thing the truck was a rental. Also, you really need more than one person to unload the crate. Believe me, it is possible to unload it yourself but it's not much fun!

The bike looks great. I was not sure about the color before ordering it, but now I really like it. I bought a orange and black jacket, and orange helmet to go with it. I'm sure I look like a big pumpkin rolling down the street, but my rationale is it might help cars see me better.

Once I got it home I followed the DS prep thread when assembling it. I did have one problem though. I struggled for a few hours trying to get the bike started. After taking half of the bike apart and checking every electrical connection twice, I realized it helps to have the kill switch turned off.

I have no done much riding yet. Mainly parking lots, and subdivision streets. I just realized today that my speedometer is in km/h. Is this normal for all China bikes?

I noticed I have an exhaust leak. I went to he auto parts store and made a gasket for it but I still notice some vapor at night in front of the headlight. Could this just be heat from the engine?

The other problem I'm having is figuring out the choke. The choke seems like it has two settings On and Off. The problem s I don't really know if it is off or on. The manual does not even mention the choke.
When I turn the choke to either extreme the bike seems to idle the same. Even when warmed up. If I move the lever in the middle the engine revs higher. Any ideas?

One last issue I'm dealing with is another example of my newbie status to riding. Since my bike does not have a Tach, I'm not sure how much I'm revving it. I'm not really sure if I'm revving it too high and I don't really know when I need to shift. Will an automotive tachometer from the auto parts store work?

[SpudRider]

Cmike,

Congratulations on your new bike! You made a great choice getting the Zong, and you got a very good deal. I also ordered an orange Sierra 200. :D

My speedometer reads both kph and mph, but the larger figures are in kph. In fact, the mph figures are so small that they are very difficult to read at night. However, there are two solutions to this problem.

Using your memory is the first, simpler solution. If you multiply kph times point 6 (.6), you will get mph. Therefore, forty kph is very close to twenty-five mph. Sixty kph is very close to thirty-five mph. Eighty kph is very close to fifty mph, and one hundred kph is very close to sixty mph. These are common speed limits for the urban and secondary roads you will usually travel while riding your Sierra 200.

The second solution is to get some colored electrical tape from Lowes or Home Depot. Cut out some small triangular “arrows,” and mark the speedometer for some common speeds, e.g. 25, 35, 50 and 60 mph. You can quickly approximate your speed whenever the speedometer needle is between two of the pieces of electrical tape.

Interestingly enough, my odometer records miles traveled, not kilometers. I checked it by measuring a mile distance driven with my automobile. I then traveled the same distance riding my motorcycle, and the odometer clicked off one unit. If you travel a mile on your motorcycle and the odometer clicks off one point six units, it is measuring kilometers, not miles.

The choke for your Sierra 200 is located on the left handlebar. When it is rotated fully toward the rider, the choke is off. Rotated fully away from the rider, the choke is at its maximum setting. I have found that I never need to use the choke on my Sierra 200. Even when my bike is cold, it always starts right up with the choke fully closed.

You don’t really need a tachometer for your motorcycle. You can tell if you are over-revving the engine by listening to it. The engine sounds louder when it is revving at higher rpms. Unless the engine is lugging, struggling to maintain speed, upshift quickly to keep the engine sounds and rpms as low as possible. This will spare your engine and increase your gas mileage. Keep riding and you will quickly become proficient using this method.

However, if you still want a tachometer, an inexpensive, easy-to-install option is the Tiny Tach. Cabella's is currently selling them for $29.88. However, this unit only gives you the average rpm reading every 2.5 seconds. You can read more about the Tiny Tach on the internet at the following url: http://www.tinytach.com/tinytach/gasoline.php

Even when I ride a motorcycle with a tachometer, I never look at it when I am shifting gears; I listen to the sound of the engine, judge its response to the throttle, and concentrate on safely riding the motorcycle. When I have a tachometer I only look at it occasionally, when I am cruising along at a steady speed. I truly don’t miss having a tachometer on my Sierra 200.

Drive carefully, and slowly build your skills riding your new motorcycle. If you haven’t already done so, I strongly suggest that you take a rider safety class, such as the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) course. You can find more information at the following url: http://www.msf-usa.org. These classes are superb, and you can frequently get a discount on your motorcycle insurance after you complete the course.

:D

[IronFist]

Good post spud

I use my tach( of this new bike.) to set the idle, and when I tune the bike.
Once my engine was broken in on the chinabike, I never worried about reving too much. (it never had a tach,) I rode throttle wide open until I hit a gas station. Then I'd do it again, all day long. :D

Take it easy for the first while. Getting used to the bike and doing parking lot maneuvers is breaking it in nicely I'd bet. Change your oil stupidly often if you love your bike, and your bike will love you back. :wink:

[katoranger]

The vapor may be the oils/paints cooking off the new engine and exhaust. Should be gone within the first 50 miles.

Allen

[tcs]

I just realized today that my speedometer is in km/h. Is this normal for all China bikes?

USA DOT standards require speedometers to read in miles per hour for all motorcycles sold for road use - but, and it's a big but, there is no specified text size. Many imported motorcycles use the same gage face worldwide and have very large kilometer per hour numbers and very, very small miles per hour numbers, and I'd guess your bike actually does as well.

If it really and truly has no MPH markings at all, it does not meet DOT requirements and you could demand a USA-legal speedometer from Zongshen.

HTH,
tcs

PS - There's no requirement on odometers, and many China bikes read in "kicks". I'm impressed that your Zongshen registers miles.

[cmike]

Thanks for the quick replies. Without this forum and the combined knowledge of its awesome members, I would never have considered a China bike. The suggestions you guys have provided are great.

Here is a little more info on where I purchased the bike. I'm not plugging them abut they have been really helpful and I think I got a good price. I purchased the bike from Bobby Pack at http://www.lewpackinternational.com/ $1400 OTD. I know they have one black and orange left in stock. Shipping was only going to be $200 extra but I live close to the warehouse so that is why I picked it up. On a side note, the warehouse is not a dealer store. It is actually the Zongshen America warehouse.
Now it may just be a marketing ploy to get me to buy the bike, but the dealer said once the remaining inventory is gone, the new bikes will be substantially higher priced.

The tiny tach is a great idea and inexpensive. I double checked the speedometer and it does have MPH. They are just really small. The idea just to memorize the mph to km/h conversion will work just fine. I'm planning on checking the odometer against the GPS later today.

Setting the choke towards the driver is where I thought it needed to be set but at this setting I'm having a problem. This only happens once the engine is warmed up. If I give it gas in gear or in neutral the engine revs up but it very very slowly drops in RPMs when the throttle is released. For example, when coasting to a stop in neutral or first with the clutch lever pulled all the way in, the engine RPMs are higher than they should be. It is almost like there is some kind of major delay between releasing the throttle and the engine speed decreasing.
I have adjusted the idle screw when the bike is warmed up. It will idle fine but when you give it gas it slowly revs back down.
I don't think there is a problem with the throttle cable as the problem does not happen when the choke is all the way on. Someone in another thread mentioned it could be an exhaust leak. Any ideas?

[djenyc]

cmike - I bought my Sierra 200 from the same guy Bobby Pack. $1395+$250 shipping to CT. The invice from ZongshenAmerica said $900, so figure there is his profit. Either way, I thing it's a great bike for the price. Before I ordered mine, I was talking to a local guy on NJ Craigslist selling his USED Sierra 200 for $2K, now WTF is wrong with this guy:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/mcy/746241981.html

I talked to him and he would not come down much, crazy how some people overpay and then think they can get they money back, I guess he's still trying to sell his. LOL. I did tell him where he can get his next bike for less :)

Ross

[Wool-Z]

Did you ever get knobbies? If so where from? I've been lookin not many options for the Sierra's wheel sizes.

[elroyjetsn]

The lazy throttle problem sounds familiar. Think it may have to do with the twist grip body screws being too tight from the factory. Something may be binding. The cable pinched somewhere perhaps. Plus chinese throttles have a reputation for self destruct. :?

[phil]

after reading i figured i would post that since becoming a zong dealer i havent been dissappointed yet in the us distributor they have always had parts and even helped bail me out a jam i was in with a lifan. :lol: i really like the bikes and am eagerly waiting to see the new models. from what i have learned they are the biggest maker of motorcycle engines in china and seem to have a pretty good setup on their quality (i have even seen pics of the 600 prototype) and if anybody needs them im pretty sure i can get dp knobbies from zongshen pretty cheap if anyone wants them let me know ill check the price

[Wool-Z]

I'm interested, would perfer some that are DOT approved. Was wondering If Spud had any luck with other vendor and just who is this other vendor?

[SpudRider]

Wool-Z,

When I was looking for the DOT knobby tires I did a search on eBay and found a Miami listing for the Zongshen Sierra 200. This listing had several telephone numbers listed to contact the sellers. I called one of the phone numbers and asked about off-road tires. The seller had them, so I ordered a pair.

These tires are manufactured by Kingstone in China, and I believe that they are only available from Zongshen. I now have 7,000 miles on the tires, and I am ready to replace the rear tire. The front tire is still in very good condition. I am pleased with the tires; they grip well in the dirt and wear well on the street. This is fortunate, because they are the only available DOT knobby tire I have found for the Sierra 200.

I don't remember the phone number I called to purchase these tires. However, if you are interested, please send me a pm (personal message), and I will try to find the information. You can also try calling Lewpackinternational or any other seller of this motorcycle. As I said, I am ready for a new rear tire myself. I think that I will probably order my next tire from the importer who sold me my motorcycle.

Spud :D

[Willys]

I had this slow to return throttle issue on ours too!

I took the throttle on the handle bar apart...just the top to that i could see...I saw that the cable had slipped off the little fulcrum or curved and dished plastic guide it sits in and was stuck between it and the casing. I got the cable out and rerouted it to where it was designed to go, but first put antisieze compound in the little groove the cable rides in to make it slide easier and then put it all back together. It works like a charm now..perfect!
I also lubed all the cables too...this made a big difference as well.
One other thing I had issues with was the power needed to pull in the clutch lever. For my daughter, it was too stiff. I fixed this by moving the hole that the end of the cable is locked into lower down on the lever making the mechanical advantage better for the rider. It still pulls far enough but has much less power needed to pull it. She now can operate it without having to struggle.


Over time I will find other bits and pieces that will need either redisigning or attention and i will post them up as i do.

Hope this helps