Think this ATV is a deal? Edit. Its gone. New cub for me.

[katoranger]

http://athensga.craigslist.org/mcy/1237193707.html

[phil]

kato, its cheap if it runs ok it would be worth 150 for parts it must be pretty good the tires are bald but i say no smoke when running=bargin :!:

[katoranger]

I am going to go take a look tomorrow night. Will bring a set of jumper cables along and give it a boost off the truck battery. If it fails to start then the price will have to come down.

Definately will need tires, but those will do in my yard until she gets good at riding it.

The seller says it has the throttle limiter and the kill string.

I need to find a reason to be gone with the truck for an hour or so tomorrow evening. Need to sneak it past the wife. :wink:

Allen

[phil]

you must have to get something to finish the honey-do list :wink:

[katoranger]

I am going to see if she needs anything from wal-mart. An atv may just fall into the truck on the way. Two happy little girls also.

Allen

[KentuckyDonkey]

you must have to get something to finish the honey-do list :wink:

So THAT's what replaces us bachelor's "can't elope" list!

I'll be curious to see how this turns out. It's been my experience that people don't give away good ATVs for $150 just because the battery is dead. "Kid outgrew it" probably means:"Bought it for him when he was 7...he beat the hell out of it at 11 and now needs one that ain't busted!" :P 8O :)

[katoranger]

If you look at the tires they got some miles on them. We will see. It is only ten miles away.

Allen

[KentuckyDonkey]

Can't hurt to look!

I guess I'm a pessimist (really a realist...)- I see the worn tires, and say "Someone rode all the riding out of it". But ya never know...and the price is right!

[katoranger]

Well around here most of the kids ride them on the street in the subdivisions. I am sure the soft rubber tires wear quickly. The plastic looks good.

Allen

[TurboT]

I think some people just want to get rid of it and have no idea.

My guess is Kato you can fix any ailments, unless the motor is seized, which you should be able to tell right away.

150 bucks and some TLC and you get a good deal for your kids.

[katoranger]

I will check it over. I think some riding mower tires will fit and I can get those for FREE.

Allen

[katoranger]

Well. I brought home. Wife isn't too happy about it, but we will get it going and see how it goes.

The girls like it. :lol:

It seems we have no spark. He told me that he try a new plug. It looks new, but nothing.

So I guess will have to diagnose a ignition problem. It is in pretty good shape other than the bald tires.

There is a connector at the back of the atv that I can't find a home for. Going to check the kill switches first.

Allen

[TurboT]

Yes the elusive kill switches. Have to be on just right....

[katoranger]

I unplugged the big black box with all the wires (technical term) and got spark. Fired it up and road it around.

The girls liked their rides.

The only problem now is that I can turn it off. Disconneting that box disconnects the kill switch.

I am going to guess that the box is a security system or remote start or something.

Also it on only a 50cc. Good enough for the little ones though.
Allen

[katoranger]

Need some pics.

http://picasaweb.google.com/katoranger/50Atv?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ3LmNmwxJrpuAE#

Pic of a connector with no home and of the little one practicing her first stunt.

Allen

[TurboT]

Thing looks like my Gio 50. Nice Suzuki stickers.

Are the brake lights hooked up? Those two wires look like the ones on the front for the light switches. Perhaps some unconnected lights?

Your girls are gorgeous lucky man. They do look happy with their new toy! I think I have the same Dora shoes in my house somewhere.

50cc will make them feel like they're flying, good for the kids, and good score for the money!

Now at least you know it runs!

[katoranger]

Yep. Runs good too. No smoke.

The brake lights work and so do all the other lights. I thought the same thing, but it appears to be all connected.

Just thought about it. I wonder if that is a charger connector for the battery? Will have to follow the wires.

I need to figure out how to bypass that alarm crap and get the kill switches working.

Also I need to know how to set the throttle limit so I can make it go slow.

It screams right along right now.

Allen

[TurboT]

I would highly doubt it's a battery charger. Odd to have two wires unconnected and everything working though. Stranger things have happened!

The throttle govenor screw is usually on the handlebar by the grip, or in the throttle control casing, it just looks like a normal screw with a nut on the end, and when you press the throttle it blocks the mechanism inside from travelling it's full distance. (Screw it in a ways and you'll notice the throttle travel shortening) Someone may have just tossed the screw if they weren't using it, or it vibrated itself out, but you should see the threads where it goes if it is not there.

[katoranger]

I will take a look at the throttle control.

Anyone have a wiring diagram for one of these?

Allen

[Cal25]

Just a WAG on the little black box. Perhaps a remote operated kill switch?

[katoranger]

It is something to do with the kill switch. Allen

[TurboT]

It is something to do with the kill switch. Allen

I would say so too, I looked at the back of my Gio 50 today and there are two wiring connectors, one for the back light and the other to the kill switch. It is possible the previous owner unplugged it because the switches themselves are kind of a pain, you think they are on but they aren't and the thing won't start. However, without a complete circuit one would think it wouldn't start at all!

[katoranger]

Rear kill switch and lights are connected. Don't know what that other one is for.

I am going to fix it so just the kill switch on the handlebar operates and bypass all the others. I traded it away today for another cub cadet garden tractor. The new owner has two boys that are alittle older. My girls are not quite big enough yet. Same problem as AZ200 had. Hands don't fit the levers.

Allen

[AZ200cc]

Ya I don't understand why they make these levers so dang large...Maybe they figure adults will play with them more than the kids :lol:


Cute kids Kato :D

[katoranger]

Thanks, I am suppose to get your parts tomorrow. Will hopefully send them off on Monday.

I got a good trade on a vintage cub cadet for it.

Allen

[AZ200cc]

I really doubt they will enjoy the Cub cadet as much :?
But each kids is differant :lol:

[katoranger]

They like their tractors. Plus the cub has more long term value. It only 45 years old or so. The new one is 43. We ride them like ATVs.

(The real reason, wife didn't like it.) I offered a swap for another tractor. She was okay with that.

Allen

[TurboT]

Ya I don't understand why they make these levers so dang large...Maybe they figure adults will play with them more than the kids :lol:



Yes if I had one complaint about the Quads I have it would be that. They can barely reach the brakes. At least with the CVT's when you come off the throttle the slow down pretty quick.

[KentuckyDonkey]

I really doubt they will enjoy the Cub cadet as much :?
But each kids is differant :lol:

Hehe...when I was a kid, I always had a jones for lawn tractors! ('course we didn't have ATVs then....)

Now, 40 years later, I always enjoy mowing the lawn with my li'l Craftsman...and I always think back to when i was a kid in the 70's...dreaming of having a lawn tractor!

[AZ200cc]

Ya I don't understand why they make these levers so dang large...Maybe they figure adults will play with them more than the kids :lol:



Yes if I had one complaint about the Quads I have it would be that. They can barely reach the brakes. At least with the CVT's when you come off the throttle the slow down pretty quick.

True, But it always worriesme if she gets in trouble she will have a hrd time stopping.....Foot brakes should be required on all kids atv's...I'm going to start a movement :lol:

[AZ200cc]

I really doubt they will enjoy the Cub cadet as much :?
But each kids is differant :lol:

Hehe...when I was a kid, I always had a jones for lawn tractors! ('course we didn't have ATVs then....)

Now, 40 years later, I always enjoy mowing the lawn with my li'l Craftsman...and I always think back to when i was a kid in the 70's...dreaming of having a lawn tractor!

I hear that, Heck this is the first thing I ever drove
Ours had a single front wheel though...But those cans over the stacks made me laugh when I saw this pic.....Did the same thing.
http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/45228/2986918090104839847S425x425Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2986918090104839847YkMajU)

[katoranger]

Always use coffee cans on the deeres. I have a stack on one of the cubs and it has a tupperware bucket.

They little atv has a new home in SC with two boys. They test rode it for about an hour.

Allen

[katoranger]

I got the wiring figure out. Fixed the kill switch and the keyswitch issues. Not really sure what I did, but after missing with it for an hour and taking apart the handlebar kill switch, cleaning it the reconnecting everything it works.

Move the c-clip on the carb so that hopefully will cold start easier. Seems to not want to start unless it has some canned help. Probably partly old gas.

Next need to change the oil and lube the chain and send it on to its new home.

One more thing. I must have crossed some wires while probing and pop the fuse. Can't tell how many amps it is? Someone know that. I am going to replace the holder with a better blade style too.

Allen

[KentuckyDonkey]

I got the wiring figure out. Fixed the kill switch and the keyswitch issues. Not really sure what I did, but after missing with it for an hour and taking apart the handlebar kill switch, cleaning it the reconnecting everything it works.



Hehe...I just had the same experience with the motor on my swimming pool filter. It stopped working, and just hummed when I'd turn it on (only 2 years old!)- I took it apart, having no idea whatsoever of what I was doing...hoping to maybe find a capacitor or something that might be easy to replace. Well there was no capacitor...so I fiddled with a few things of which I have no idea what they are...put it back together...and now it works fine! (Even took it to an electric motor shop T'other day, just "to be sure", and they gave it a clean bill of health!)

[KentuckyDonkey]

I really doubt they will enjoy the Cub cadet as much :?
But each kids is differant :lol:

Hehe...when I was a kid, I always had a jones for lawn tractors! ('course we didn't have ATVs then....)

Now, 40 years later, I always enjoy mowing the lawn with my li'l Craftsman...and I always think back to when i was a kid in the 70's...dreaming of having a lawn tractor!

I hear that, Heck this is the first thing I ever drove
Ours had a single front wheel though...But those cans over the stacks made me laugh when I saw this pic.....Did the same thing.
http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/45228/2986918090104839847S425x425Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2986918090104839847YkMajU)

Hmmm....what is that, an Allis or a Case?

I just sold my '49 Ferguson- 60 years old...and still giving a good days work!

[katoranger]

That is an H farmall. Probably about a 1950 model.

Allen

[KentuckyDonkey]

That is an H farmall. Probably about a 1950 model.

Allen

Thanks. I don't know my old tractors! Thought for sure it was an Allis! (Oh well...whadduya 'spect from an ex-New Yawker?)

[AZ200cc]

On some it is hard to tell em apart unless You know.....Ours was a farmall but I saw a lot of others that looked dang near indentical online/

[katoranger]

Growing up in a the midwest I saw alot of tractors. Still play with them.

I can spot a a farmall easily. We had an H and a Super M. I drove the M about 20 miles once. Took an hour.

Allen

[AZ200cc]

I just wish I could find a pic of our exact model, Seems to be rare because i have searched online over and over and never found it...Brings back good memories of a simple time.

[katoranger]

I must have a short someplace as I have blown two fuses now.

Going to have to go over the thing again.

Allen

[katoranger]

Its gone. I rewired it will a new kill switch. My new Cub is sure NICE. :lol: It has a history of being passed around. My turn for awhile.

Time for a it trail tires and winch. These cubs work great for trail maintence.

Allen

[Cal25]

Dont forget, we like pictures here :D

[katoranger]

As soon as my new camera arrives. Mine broke last week while taking pics of the CL project.

I have pics of my Dad's new cub complete with a loader and a tiller.

Oh, this cub is getting a makeover and some custom work. :lol:

[katoranger]

Forgot to add. The new owners have been putting some miles on it.

http://ihregistry.com/forum/messages/8/154466.jpg

Had an email from him. Said ATV wouldn't go. Problem was that the operator had a blister on the thumb from too much riding. :D

Allen