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tdkrantz
04-26-2010, 07:27 PM
Well, I purchased a crated 2008 Hensim HS250CR for $1200 FOB TX.

It arrived this morning and let me tell ya, Murphy was hanging over my shoulder all day. First, the truck couldn't make the incline coming off the street and had to unload at the bottom of my driveway at the bottom of the hill. The bike was standing on its nose, had holes in the cardboard, and the metal crate frame was bent pretty bad. I told the trucker I'd be right back I had to go get my camera.

It wasn't as bad as it looked. There were a couple of scratches here and there but nothing that concerned me. We tried to use a pallet jack to get it up the hill but we both gave out about 1/3 the way up and headed back down.

So, here I am on the side of the road, raining on and off, putting my bike together with no instructions. Not even an exploded view or anything. While attempting to raise the front end to install the front tire I broke the shifter linkage bar. :x

I did get the thing together with no left over parts. I had one missing washer that was lost in transit that I'll pick up @ the HW store. I changed the oil, fueled it up, and it started the first turnover. Runs and rides great ... in first gear/ :roll:

Thats not the worst part thou. I went around re-torquing and thread locking and stripped the bolt holes that hold the rear sprocket on. :x I think its called a stopper block. So before I can take it out I've got to source and install the two parts that I trashed. Class "A" backyard mechanic. :wink:

I was relieved to see the EPA, Cali. Emissions , and DOT cert. data right on the bike. It took about six hrs from unloading to riding around the yard. I'll try to snap some pics tomorrow. I'm way too worn out to mess with it tonight. I ain't no young whippersnapper anymore. :wink:

Edit ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~
My dealer said that he has both parts in stock and will ship out tomorrow. :D

TheRealWorld
04-26-2010, 10:12 PM
Sound like it is going to be very interesting. Cant wait for an update!

Weldangrind
04-27-2010, 01:50 AM
That sounds like one of my adventures. :lol:

Looking forward to the pics when you get time.

SpudRider
04-27-2010, 02:33 AM
I eagerly await the photographs. :) If I may ask, how much did it cost to ship it from Texas to Virginia?

Spud :)

tdkrantz
04-27-2010, 02:55 PM
I eagerly await the photographs. :) If I may ask, how much did it cost to ship it from Texas to Virginia?

Spud :)

I was getting quotes for around $650-$750 but Charlie got it shipped for $250 w/liftgate service. :D I could have gotten it shipped for $200 if I picked it up @ the terminal or delivered it to a business address.

SpudRider
04-27-2010, 03:00 PM
I eagerly await the photographs. :) If I may ask, how much did it cost to ship it from Texas to Virginia?

Spud :)

I was getting quotes for around $650-$750 but Charlie got it shipped for $250 w/liftgate service. :D I could have gotten it shipped for $200 if I picked it up @ the terminal or delivered it to a business address.
That is excellent customer service! :) I had to arrange my own shipping when I bought my Zong. :? I paid $238 to have it shipped from Seattle to my friend's workplace in Idaho.

Spud :)

tdkrantz
04-27-2010, 03:27 PM
OK, here are the pics. It hasn't had a bath yet so overlook the dirty pics. :P
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/0.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/01.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/010.jpg
Adjustable ride shocks.
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/02.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/03.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/04.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/06.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/07.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/08.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/09.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/011.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/012.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/013.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/014.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/015.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/05.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/carb1.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/carb2.jpg
Anybody spot the mixture adj screw in the photos?
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/decals.jpg
I'm replacing these with...
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/vinyls.jpg
These. The top ones are reflective.
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/windshield.jpg
I just put this on to keep the bugs off my teeth. :D
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/crate.jpg
8O That had me a little worried
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/linkage.jpg
Whats missing in this picture?
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/linkage2.jpg
YUP! :evil:
Tha, tha, tha, thats all folks!

Cal25
04-27-2010, 03:32 PM
the mixture screw is on the bottom on the front side of the carb.

katoranger
04-27-2010, 04:18 PM
If only sellers would take pics like that.

SpudRider
04-27-2010, 05:41 PM
If only sellers would take pics like that.
Indeed, thank you for the beautiful photographs! :D Your bike looks great. :) I agree with Cal regarding the location of the carburetor's pilot mixture screw. ;)

Spud :)

TheRealWorld
04-27-2010, 05:58 PM
Your foot shift linkage is not intact!. Be sure to read my thread on the one I bought a couple years back. That is a heck of a bike for that price. I had mine out for 20 miles today. Good luck with it.

SpudRider
04-27-2010, 06:33 PM
...That is a heck of a bike for that price. I had mine out for 20 miles today. Good luck with it.
I agree; you got a great deal! :) I much prefer dual sport motorcycles. However, if I liked cruisers, I would certainly jump on the deal you got. ;)

Spud :)

tdkrantz
04-27-2010, 08:39 PM
Your foot shift linkage is not intact!. Be sure to read my thread on the one I bought a couple years back. That is a heck of a bike for that price. I had mine out for 20 miles today. Good luck with it.

Thanks, I read your thread. It gives me a few things to keep in mind. I haven't had mine out yet but I can very easily shift from first to neutral and second to neutral by hand. Have you ever tried adjusting the linkage rod?

I started my bike off with full synthetic 10w40. A bit pricey but better protection against friction, better flow, less gum and varnish, and doesn't break down as fast at higher temps. Perfect for air cooled engines.

TheRealWorld
04-27-2010, 08:46 PM
You're welcome for the info. Most guys here will discourage you from using that synthetic for at least 1000 miles. The conventional oil will allow a better break in. I personally would drain it and save it for later. The shift to neutral when the engine is not running, is not a problem, it is when It is running. Be a bit gentle on the tranny at least for a while. As you may have read, I did go with a smaller sprocket on the back and it is hard to find. Have fun and be careful!

tdkrantz
04-27-2010, 09:33 PM
Here's my bug deflector
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/000_1194.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/000_1195.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/000_1196.jpg
http://tdkrantz.com/~/hensim/000_1197.jpg

I have a mini tachometer on the way.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140387546622&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
It will attach to the right or left bolt that secures the speedometer bracket. All I have to do as far as wiring is run it to the +/- on the coil and the + on the light for the speedo.

I'm also adding flashing brake lights featuring chrome skull license plate bolts w/red LED eyes. They will flash for 4 seconds and then stay lit. Virginia law allows their use as long as it flashes for less than 5 seconds.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260585957354&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
Can you tell I'm a red neck? :wink:

I'm also looking @ modulating headlight units but the price needs to come down a bit before I'll get one.

TheRealWorld
04-27-2010, 09:44 PM
I have one similar on mine and I love it. I am 58 years old and I am having more fun than I had when I was 25. That is how old I was when I sold my last bike, my wife said it had to go. We are still married, and she likes my bikes, but she does not ride.

SpudRider
04-27-2010, 09:45 PM
Here's my bug deflector...
The windscreen looks great; the entire bike looks great! Congratulations on a super deal! :D
...I'm also adding flashing brake lights featuring chrome skull license plate bolts w/red LED eyes. They will flash for 4 seconds and then stay lit. Virginia law allows their use as long as it flashes for less than 5 seconds.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260585957354&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT
Can you tell I'm a red neck? :wink:...
:lol:

Spud :)

TheRealWorld
04-27-2010, 09:48 PM
Once you get up to about 50 Mph, your speedometer will read about 7 MPH faster than you are moving, unless they have fixed that. I think it says MPH but it is actually in kilometers.

Weldangrind
04-27-2010, 09:55 PM
As long as you're using four stroke motorcycle oil, I don't see a problem with synthetic. I've broken all of our machines in on synthetic, and none of 'em burn any oil.

TheRealWorld
04-27-2010, 10:05 PM
I have a great deal of respect for Weldangrind, but I disagree with him on this one. Come on guys what are your thoughts on the oil?

SpudRider
04-27-2010, 10:07 PM
I have a great deal of respect for Weldangrind, but I disagree with him on this one. Come on guys what are your thoughts on the oil?
I agree with WG. ;) I don't see any harm in using synthetic oil, right from the beginning. :)

Spud :)

tdkrantz
04-27-2010, 10:17 PM
Once you get up to about 50 Mph, your speedometer will read about 7 MPH faster than you are moving, unless they have fixed that. I think it says MPH but it is actually in kilometers.

1 KM = .62 miles
50(mph) divided by 57(mph) = .88
50(mph) divided by 81(mph) = .62

If my math is correct you would have to be reading 81mph and only going 50mph if it were in km/h.

Must be a sensor gear ratio problem.

tdkrantz
04-27-2010, 10:26 PM
I have a great deal of respect for Weldangrind, but I disagree with him on this one. Come on guys what are your thoughts on the oil?

I'm no mechanic but the only difference that I can foresee is a gentler, maybe prolonged, break in which equates to extended life. :? :?:

tdkrantz
04-27-2010, 10:54 PM
Once you get up to about 50 Mph, your speedometer will read about 7 MPH faster than you are moving, unless they have fixed that. I think it says MPH but it is actually in kilometers.

Must be a sensor gear ratio problem.

If mine has that problem and if I can nail down the percentage it is off I'll make a new speedo template with the adjusted percentage. I don't like that red line too much anyway. I made one once before for a Suzuki Samurai that I had. I created it in a graphics program and printed it out in color on adhesive backed stock and just stuck it over the speedo and cut out the holes for the odometer and stuff with an exacto knife.

Weldangrind
04-28-2010, 02:11 AM
That's pretty cool! 8)

Oengus
05-02-2010, 10:38 AM
You're welcome for the info. Most guys here will discourage you from using that synthetic for at least 1000 miles. The conventional oil will allow a better break in. I personally would drain it and save it for later. The shift to neutral when the engine is not running, is not a problem, it is when It is running. Be a bit gentle on the tranny at least for a while. As you may have read, I did go with a smaller sprocket on the back and it is hard to find. Have fun and be careful!


That is the concensus, did you get any kind of owners manual?

melissann
05-02-2010, 12:27 PM
was wondering what speed this would get up to comfortably... can it go on the highway? I have a friend who likes cruisers and this is the right price but he needs to go down to the valley and thats 65mph

TheRealWorld
05-02-2010, 12:34 PM
My opinion is that with stock gearing, 65 is not a reasonable speed to maintain. I also don't think you can maintain that speed with altered gearing. Others will disagree, but that is pushing that engine past its limits.

tdkrantz
05-02-2010, 10:23 PM
was wondering what speed this would get up to comfortably... can it go on the highway? I have a friend who likes cruisers and this is the right price but he needs to go down to the valley and thats 65mph

The manual says >=55mph or >=90kmh. I have heard of people doing 65 to 70 but I'm sure with the low gearing that would be pushing it. Mine will never see the Interstate. Where I live its bad enough in a car.

tdkrantz
05-02-2010, 10:39 PM
I got tired of waiting for my parts to arrive and threaded my last two threads on the shifter linkage into the elbow joint and put ten miles riding around my property today. Its been 25 years since I've been on a bike but after I got over the jitters I was alright. If I decide to do any more trail riding though I think I'll have to adjust the shocks to be a little stiffer. That back tire is great in the dirt/rocks.

I didn't have any shifter problems. All shifts were easy and positive. Easy to find neutral running or not. Of course I changed the oil to synthetic before I even first started it. Hopefully the parts will be in this week and I can take it out on the road.

I was reading the manual today. Whoever wrote it must have flunked English class. Some of it is hard to figure out what they are trying to say while other parts are quite comical. Did you know that I have a rear winker? :lol: The first 500 kilometers(315 milies) I have to go <25mph and the second 500 I have to go <35mph. I don't think I'll be following the recommended break-in.
Oh yeah, it also says "Foltiden heavy load and sharp ramp". What the heck is that? :?

Weldangrind
05-02-2010, 10:45 PM
Did you know that I have a rear winker? :lol:

Perhaps you should see a doctor.

TheRealWorld
05-02-2010, 10:52 PM
I am a believer in gentle break in. I am glad to hear your tranny is working well.

I had a sticker on a Chinese ATV I bought that said. You will be killed if you don't read this carefully!

I take threats very seriously so I read it completely!

SpudRider
05-03-2010, 12:13 AM
...I had a sticker on a Chinese ATV I bought that said. You will be killed if you don't read this carefully!

I take threats very seriously so I read it completely!
That is the funniest "Chinglish" I have heard yet! :lol:

Spud :)

melissann
05-03-2010, 09:43 AM
I had a sticker on a Chinese ATV I bought that said. You will be killed if you don't read this carefully!

I take threats very seriously so I read it completely!

Wow... thats awesome! Did you take a picture of that? I would have lol and text it to everyone I know for a good laugh.

TheRealWorld
05-03-2010, 09:32 PM
I saved them for a while, but have lost track of them!

phil
05-03-2010, 09:46 PM
i remember the lifan mini bikes said do not drink wine while operating
i guess chinese children only drink wine. oh that was american lifan 8O

tdkrantz
05-06-2010, 05:17 PM
Well, after playing with the rear wheel alignment and chain adjustment for half an hour I got the thing through the Virginia DMV and State Inspection. I had to ride it with VERY low tire pressure. It didn't even register on the air gage. I stopped along the way @ 2 pay air compressors and nether one would fit my wheel. The guys @ the shop filled them up for me when I got there.

The bike runs/rides well but man is it geared low. You can go through all 5 gears under 25 mph. I kept trying to up-shift but I was all out of gears. :roll:

There is no way I can follow the recommended break in around here without a traffic jam so I'm just trying to keep it under 40mph and drop down slower when I can.

This thing has a STD chain so I guess I'll be pulling it off every 500-1000 miles for a bath and a oil soaking.

Feels good after 25 years though. :D

Got to go do some wiring before I take it out in the dark to test out the lights tonight.

FastDoc
05-06-2010, 06:23 PM
Sounds like a re-gear is in order. I bet you have a Lifanoid style 56 tooth rear sprocket.

Some people do, but it's not necessary to pull the chain anymore. Any good chain lube (I use Maxima Chain Wax) will work fine.

The stock Chin chains don't last anyways. When it wears out upgrade to a Spud Chain (Tsubaki).

Glad you made it through DMV. What's up with the air valve?

tdkrantz
05-06-2010, 09:16 PM
Sounds like a re-gear is in order. I bet you have a Lifanoid style 56 tooth rear sprocket.
What's up with the air valve?

Actually I think its a 36 tooth rear sprocket and I'm not too sure I want to mess with it after I stripped the first one out. Thats why I had the rear wheel off. I had a 1/2" almost breaker bar coming down on it like you would a lug nut.

The gears in the tranny are just too close for me. It runs about 4500 rpm @ 45 mph. I'll see how it goes after the break-in period.

The air valve is just too close to the fins on those mag wheels. The guy @ the shop had to change fittings 3 times to find one that would fit.

I got my flashing brake light module connected to the tail light and red eyed skull license plate bolts and took it out in the dark. Not too bad w/a halogen headlight but better than the old days incandescent bulbs. Being out in the countryside I came back plastered w/bugs. So much for my bug deflector. :wink:

Weldangrind
05-06-2010, 09:50 PM
Make sure you don't smile; you don't want bugs in your teeth. :lol:

I'd love to be riding again; it sounds great.

What is the size of the front sprocket?

tdkrantz
05-06-2010, 10:55 PM
Make sure you don't smile; you don't want bugs in your teeth. :lol:

I'd love to be riding again; it sounds great.

What is the size of the front sprocket?

Too late, I couldn't hold the smiles back. Just a little extra protein in my diet though. :wink:

I haven't had the cover off yet. I didn't even think of that. I'll have to have a look at it. :idea:

TheRealWorld
05-06-2010, 11:21 PM
The front one is going to be tight . I bet you are over 4500 rpms at 45 mph, have you got a tach?. I made my own sprocket from one I got at a farm store. It was very difficult and I have a lathe and had to cut the thickness and increase the hole. You might be able to grind an air chuck so that you can get in there to ad air. You could make a new hole for the valve stem.

tdkrantz
05-07-2010, 12:06 AM
I bet you are over 4500 rpms at 45 mph, have you got a tach?

Yeah, I bought a harley tach but had to add electronic components to make it work w/2 coils.

:arrow: Link to tach thread (http://chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9801&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)

This is how I wired it up:
:arrow: Link to wiring thread. (http://chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9777&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)

I think I paid $35 for it.

TheRealWorld
05-07-2010, 08:28 AM
What speed does it idle at. I am wondering if you have the tach registering properly.

tdkrantz
05-07-2010, 09:10 AM
What speed does it idle at. I am wondering if you have the tach registering properly.

I set it @ 1400 rpm. It idles @ 1100 until it warms up, usually about 2 or 3 min. Any lower than that and the lights dim.

TheRealWorld
05-07-2010, 09:32 AM
Sounds about right! You are going to need a sprocket, good luck. I have to go to work, have a good day.

tdkrantz
05-07-2010, 11:59 AM
Sounds about right! You are going to need a sprocket, good luck. I have to go to work, have a good day.

OK, the search is on. I have a 32t 520. I guess 5 or 6 teeth more would be good. I don't want to kill the low end where I have to burn out the clutch to take off and have to push it up steep hills. :wink:

Cal25
05-07-2010, 12:11 PM
You dont want more teeth in the rear. You want less to drop RPMs.

What is the red line on your bike? 4500@45mph does not sound terrible to me.

FastDoc
05-07-2010, 12:13 PM
Fewer teeth on the rear sprocket is what you are looking for. And/or more on the front. A practical limitation on the reduction of rear sprocket teeth is swingarm interference so keep an eye out for that too. :D

tdkrantz
05-07-2010, 03:56 PM
You dont want more teeth in the rear. You want less to drop RPMs.

What is the red line on your bike? 4500@45mph does not sound terrible to me.

I'm not sure of the red line. I added the tach myself. The manual says the max output is 8500 rpm +/- 10%. Maybe its not that bad after all. I'm still in break in mode but I did take it up to 5500 today and and it felt like it hit a power band or something. Yeah, I'm looking @ the manual and it says that the max torque is @ 5000 +/- 10%. :)

TheRealWorld
05-07-2010, 08:29 PM
If I was going to do it again I would not go smaller than a 27 tooth. These guys should be able to help you find one, but I never could. Be sure to look at increasing the front sprocket, but it would be tight. One tooth there is quite an improvement and it wont require a chain shortening.