My Recently Acquired, 2005 Honda XR650L [Archive]

SpudRider

10-21-2010, 11:17 PM

Today I took my recently acquired, Honda XR650L on one of my favorite rides to Idaho's Blackfoot Reservoir. Here are some photographs of my "brand used" Honda, in its natural environment. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes016.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes020.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes026.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes029.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes038.jpg

The bike runs great, and I am happy I bought it. :) However, I will shortly begin modifying the Honda to better suit my riding needs. ;) The stock fuel tank is a meager 2.8 gallons, so I have decided to install a 4.7-gallon, Clarke fuel tank. :)

http://www.clarkemfg.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_27&products_id=73

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/Clarkefueltankjpg.jpg

Which color should I choose: red, or black? :?:

Spud :)

MICRider

10-21-2010, 11:41 PM

SpudRider

10-21-2010, 11:52 PM

Sweeeet!! Ty for posting the pics Spud, the XR is pure awesomeness! Definitely go for the black tank, break up the red a bit and give you much much more range over the stocker. Looks great and I`m sure you will get tons of good service from it. Grats again! :D

Cheers,
Stew
You're welcome, Stew. Thank you for the kind words, and thank you for your input! :)

The bike's cooling fins, a.k.a. "elephant ears," will disappear with the old tank. ;) I am pretty sure I will also replace the front fender with a supermoto fender, of undecided color. In addition, I am considering changing the color of the headlight cowl, or even substituting an entirely different headlight, such as the Trail Tech X2. :)

http://trailtech.net/x2.html

Therefore, I am interested in gathering input from our forum members regarding the final color scheme of the bike after all these modifications. :) I am definitely not married to "Honda Red." ;)

Spud :)

MICRider

10-22-2010, 12:06 AM

Black one looks kind of cool... Though it might be a little too much black :)

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx261/MICRider/BlackXR.jpg

FastDoc

10-22-2010, 12:09 AM

Awesome Spud!

I bet it's a rush having that kind of power! As wonderful as the Zong is, I'ts a rush to roost.

FastDoc

10-22-2010, 12:12 AM

It will look much better without the ears!

Nuts.

I'd talked myself outta the DR and not you have to do this!

FastDoc

10-22-2010, 12:13 AM

What year is that beauty, Spud?

SpudRider

10-22-2010, 12:16 AM

Awesome Spud!

I bet it's a rush having that kind of power! As wonderful as the Zong is, I'ts a rush to roost.
Thank you, Doc. :) Yes, I enjoy the extra power, and the safety it provides while riding among numerous, aggressive drivers. ;) However, I also enjoy the lightness, agility, low seat height, and low operating costs of my Zong! :D I think the two bikes will nicely complement each other. ;) My XR650L is from model year 2005; I bought it with 7,800 miles on the odometer. :)

Which color fuel tank do you think will look best: red, or black?

Spud :)

TurboT

10-22-2010, 02:07 AM

beardo

10-22-2010, 09:05 AM

SpudRider

10-22-2010, 10:06 AM

Nice Spud!

I am partial the red fuel tank, to keep it looking like a Honda.

That shot of the long 'road' with the little up and downs on it just looks like a hoot. I kind of long to go WOT on my YZ there. :(

Thanks for sharing of course. :)
Thank you for your kind words, and your input, Turbo. :)

After my experience with my Zong, I have learned to enjoy personalizing my motorcycles. Therefore, I don't mind deviating from the Honda Red color theme, but Honda doesnâ€™t make the job easy. ;) The white plastic panels complicate adding a black fuel tank, since I don't want to produce a "zebra.â€ :lol: I also donâ€™t want a completely black motorcycle. A white fuel tank might appear nice at first, but the white fuel tanks tend to discolor with age. :(

Besides a larger fuel tank, I also need to add a luggage rack, and a skid plate to this motorcycle. ;) As I ponder my options, here are a few more photographs of the bike in its current configuration, before I start modifying it. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes053.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes057.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes067.jpg

[img]http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes078.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes093.jpg

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-22-2010, 10:14 AM

On mine, I had a 4 gallon IMS tank, Corbin seat, hybrid R and L exhaust, jetted to suit. Great torque!!! First bike I ever did a 12 o'clock on (didnt mean to) and will top out about 100 mph. Also get pretty darn good gas milage. The bike was too much for me off road around here (western pa) but looks like the perfect environment out your way!!!
Indeed, this bike has a lot of torque, and it requires judicious application of the throttle! :lol: I agree, the XR650L is well suited to cover the miles in the wide open spaces of Idaho, but it really needs a 4.7-gallon fuel tank to do it safely. I got about 55 mpg on this trip, which is quite acceptable, but the fuel pumps are few, and far between, in the rural areas of Idaho. ;) Do you have a preference regarding the color of the fuel tank?

Spud :)

Cal25

10-22-2010, 11:19 AM

If the red stays RED, I like that better than black. The side panels dont need to stay white however, so you can really go any flavour you enjoy.

Quite envious of the the new steed, Spud.

Cal25

10-22-2010, 11:20 AM

Looks like a rear rack is in order. Any plans for another trunk?

katoranger

10-22-2010, 11:21 AM

I vote red.

Weldangrind

10-22-2010, 11:50 AM

Red, all day long.

Love that bike! Glad to hear you're moving forward with a skidplate right away; breaking an oil line would wreck your whole day. I didn't have the funds for a new plate, so I fabbed one out of aluminum; glad I did.

If those headers are the same as my quarter-litre, they're stainless. I polished mine to make clean-up much easier. As well, they turned a very cool blue and bronze after a couple of heat cycles. :D

Is your current tank plastic? If so, dibs on your current tank! :lol:

FastDoc

10-22-2010, 11:56 AM

Red, Spud. You don't want the zebra look.

I know you're prudent but be careful on that thing. I know I'd have a hard time not going nuts on it!

katoranger

10-22-2010, 12:35 PM

FastDoc

10-22-2010, 12:41 PM

katoranger

10-22-2010, 02:15 PM

The reviews I read say the same thing. The XR is more dirt oriented.

Still just a big bike. I am sure on the wide open trail it is great fun.

beardo

10-22-2010, 03:59 PM

Personally, I love the red, white, blue and gold paint scheme from the old XL600R

http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0600/motospor/xl600r-86.jpg

katoranger

10-22-2010, 04:00 PM

Personally, I love the red, white, blue and gold paint scheme from the old XL600R

http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0600/motospor/xl600r-86.jpg

That is classic. My 86 xr200 has that theme.

FastDoc

10-22-2010, 04:11 PM

That is nice!

Cal25

10-22-2010, 04:13 PM

I like the clear fenders. Bet they would be hard to keep clean though

SpudRider

10-22-2010, 10:52 PM

If the red stays RED, I like that better than black. The side panels dont need to stay white however, so you can really go any flavour you enjoy.

Quite envious of the the new steed, Spud.
Thank you, Cal. :) Another vote for red is noted. ;)

Unless I spray paint the side panels, or buy painted side panels from another model year, I think I am stuck with the color white, Cal. I canâ€™t use either OEM, or aftermarket, XR600R side panels, unless I move the battery box, and I donâ€™t want to do that. I also donâ€™t want painted side panels. ;) Therefore, unless I want a red, black, and white motorcycle, I should probably get a red fuel tank. ;)
Looks like a rear rack is in order. Any plans for another trunk?
I think I am going to purchase a Turbo City Borrego rack, Cal. I already own an extra J.C. Whitney travel trunk, and its mounting plate. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-22-2010, 10:54 PM

I vote red.
Thank you for your input, Allen. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-22-2010, 11:02 PM

Red, all day long...
Thank you for your input, W&G. The votes for red are clearly in the lead. :)
...Love that bike! Glad to hear you're moving forward with a skidplate right away; breaking an oil line would wreck your whole day. I didn't have the funds for a new plate, so I fabbed one out of aluminum; glad I did.

If those headers are the same as my quarter-litre, they're stainless. I polished mine to make clean-up much easier. As well, they turned a very cool blue and bronze after a couple of heat cycles. :D

Is your current tank plastic? If so, dibs on your current tank! :lol:
I don't think the exhaust header is stainless steel, which is too bad, since I really enjoy the XT225, stainless steel exhaust header on my Zong. :( I'm sorry, but my stock fuel tank is metal. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-22-2010, 11:16 PM

Red, Spud. You don't want the zebra look.

I know you're prudent but be careful on that thing. I know I'd have a hard time not going nuts on it!
Thank you for your input, Doc. I have duly noted yet another vote for red! :) Also, thank you for the good advice; I certainly will be careful. ;) Safety was one of the main reasons I acquired the XR650L. I have discovered on longer trips, to more populated areas, I need a larger engine to maintain the same speed as the numerous, aggressive automobile drivers. 8O Therefore, I will continue to ride my lighter, shorter, more nimble Zong the majority of the time. ;) However, whenever I have the need, or feel the need for speed, I can mount Porky, the BRP (Big Red Pig). :lol:

http://fozzy42.com/SoundClips/Movies/TopGun/speed.wav

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-22-2010, 11:27 PM

Spud, I think Katoranger still has a Chinarack you might be able to make work. Maybe look at how it mounts.

SpudRider

10-23-2010, 12:16 AM

I think that would be too much bike for me. The KLR650 was just too big. I wasn't tall enough and the weight was unnerving. Fun on the street though.

The 400cc size seems to be about the perfect compromise for trail and street use. Still would like a drz400.
Having ridden both I can say the XR is more manageable off road than the KLR, by a wide margin. That said it is A LOT OF BIKE on the trail. In the open western places where Spud rides he should be fine...
The DR-Z400S is a great bike, but I chose the XR650L for a number of reasons. ;)

1) In my area, a well beaten, DR-Z400S sells for about $3,500; I purchased my XR650L for much less than that price. :D

2) I wanted a second bike, with "longer legs," so I could take longer adventures, farther from home. However, I didn't want to purchase a street bike, and be limited to traveling on the pavement. Therefore, I decided a 650cc, dual sport motorcycle was the right bike for me. ;)

3) I would rather ride, than do maintenance! Therefore, I prefer the simplicity, and the reliability of an air-cooled engine. ;) This preference narrowed my choices to either the Suzuki DR650SE, or the Honda XR650L.

4) The XR650L has a curb weight of 346 pounds, which is only 29 pounds heavier than the DR-Z400S. :) In addition, the XR650L weighs 20 pounds less than the DR650SE, and 86 pounds less than the KLR650! 8O I often ride alone, so I need to be able to pick up my motorcycle by myself. ;) Since the XR650L has an engine with 250cc more displacement, I consider it more street-worthy than the DR-Z400, and I can still pick up the XR650L after I drop it! :D

5) I spend long hours in the saddle, and I didn't want to spend $375 for a custom seat! In my opinion, the DR-Z400S saddle is absolutely painful! :( In stark contrast, the XR650L saddle is very comfortable; in fact, the Honda saddle might be the most comfortable, stock seat on any of the 650cc, dual sport motorcycles. :D

6) As usual, FastDoc is correct. ;) If I desire, I can ride the XR650L on many of my favorite trails in the open spaces of Idaho. I still prefer to ride my shorter, lighter, more nimble Zong on these trails. ;) However, the XR650L has a great suspension, excellent ground clearance, and only weighs 29 pounds more than the DR-Z400S. :) Since I already own an excellent trail bike with my Zong, I decided to get the better street performance of the XR650L over the DR-Z400S. ;)

This afternoon I rode my Honda XR650L up a favorite mountain; it did a pretty good job! However, this bike is definitely geared too high from the factory, so I need to drop a tooth on the countershaft sprocket. ;) Here are some photos from today's ride. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport011.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport015.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport031.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport041.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport044.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport057.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport063.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XRtoKinport070.jpg

The XR650L would definitely be difficult to ride in tight quarters, but the Big Red Pig performs surprisingly well in the wide-open spaces of Idaho. ;) In addition, this bike easily cruises the speed limit on limited access freeways. :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-23-2010, 12:29 AM

Spud, I think Katoranger still has a Chinarack you might be able to make work. Maybe look at how it mounts.
Thank you for the suggestion, Bill. :) However, the subframe on the XR650L is reported to fail under heavy loads, so I am looking for a luggage rack with the most robust mounting system. ;) I think the Turbo City Borrego rack might be strongest. :)

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=651373&highlight=borrego+rack

Spud :)

Weldangrind

10-23-2010, 03:24 PM

SpudRider

10-23-2010, 05:43 PM

Spud, please satisfy my curiousity and try a magnet test on the exhaust header. My '96 250 has a stainless header, so I'm surprised that yours would be mild steel.

If it's steel, maybe a dirt-only bike would be a good stainless donor.
A magnet will not stick to the XT225, stainless steel, exhaust header on my Zong. However, the same magnet sticks very strongly to my XR650L exhaust header. :( Thank you for the tip, Brother Derryk. I greatly prefer a stainless steel exhaust header, so I will start looking for one. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-25-2010, 07:16 PM

The XR650L is a great bike, but it is tall, with a 37-inch seat height. 8O Therefore, I have ordered a Performance Design lowering link for Porky, my BRP. ;) This link should lower the seat height approximately 1.5-1.75 inches. :) I have also ordered a red, Clarke, 4.7-gallon fuel tank for my bike. :) Needless to say, I will post photos, and reviews, after these items arrive, and I install them.

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-25-2010, 07:30 PM

SpudRider

10-25-2010, 07:38 PM

I'm glad you decided to go with red.

Will you raise the fork legs in the triple tree to match? How will this effect your handling if at all? Will the tires be too close to the fenders? Will you let me ride it I fly out to I-der-ho?
I will raise the forks in the triple tree, and the bike's handling should not be affected. :) The XR650L has a great suspension, with 11.6 inches of travel in the forks, and 11.0 inches of travel in the rear shock. :) Therefore, I should not have any problems with the suspension bottoming out. ;) If you visit my area, Bill, you are certainly welcome to ride Porky. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-25-2010, 07:44 PM

I'm thinking I'll have 2 dirts bikes too, Bother Spud, and I can easily borrow another ATV, and I have a bunch of streetbikes if you're in my neck of the woods.

SpudRider

10-25-2010, 08:19 PM

Thank you, Brother Bill. :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-25-2010, 10:39 PM

All Honda, XR650L motorcycles are infected at the factory with a SMOG tumor, attached to the left side of the cylinder; Porky was no exception. :(

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LMaidenVoyagetoBlackfoorRes046.jpg

Therefore, I just purchased a SMOG removal kit from eBay. :) As soon as the kit arrives from New York, I will excise the tumor, and heal my Big Red Pig. :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140468073884&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-25-2010, 10:47 PM

I bet that's the same sort of deal Q's are saddled with.

Weldangrind

10-26-2010, 02:21 AM

Interesting, I've never noticed a smog device on an XL before; I wonder if it's a US-only option to make it 50 State legal?

SpudRider

10-26-2010, 04:11 AM

Interesting, I've never noticed a smog device on an XL before; I wonder if it's a US-only option to make it 50 State legal?
I don't know if this desecration is peculiar to the XR650L bikes imported into the United States, but I do know the California XR650L bikes are plugged up even more than mine! :x

Spud :roll:

FastDoc

10-26-2010, 11:35 AM

SpudRider

10-26-2010, 11:53 AM

It really is an eyesore. Funny how Honda made no effort to hide it. Maybe they thought it would be easier to remove at it's current position...

Also, I wonder about the Ross Perot ears.... Are they supposed to help cooling? Hard to see they would really make a difference.
Fortunately, the SMOG tumor is easy to remove. ;) I will post before, and after photos, to show the results of my "surgery." :)

I agree about the "elephant ears." :roll: The XR650L employs a dry sump engine, with an oil reservoir/cooler in the upper part of the bike's frame. The "elephant ears" are definitely meant to enhance engine cooling. :roll:

The Clarke fuel tank I ordered doesn't employ the "elephant ears." :) Many XR650L owner's remove the "elephant ears," even if they keep the stock fuel tank! Therefore, I plan to perform otoplasty on Porky today! :) Film might be available at 11:00. ;)

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-26-2010, 12:10 PM

Otoplasty.

That's the funniest thing I've heard today Spud! :P

BillR

10-26-2010, 10:49 PM

Indeed, this bike has a lot of torque, and it requires judicious application of the throttle! :lol: I agree, the XR650L is well suited to cover the miles in the wide open spaces of Idaho, but it really needs a 4.7-gallon fuel tank to do it safely. I got about 55 mpg on this trip, which is quite acceptable, but the fuel pumps are few, and far between, in the rural areas of Idaho. ;) Do you have a preference regarding the color of the fuel tank?
Spud :)
Tank...I like red.
Sweet bike, I really considered one myself, but went with the Skorpion.
On another tack...PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...check the counter-shaft ASAP. A friend of mine bought a 2002 model with around 6K miles on it. Rode it in to work one day, started home and he said it was like the clutch suddenly went out...the counter-shaft sprocket had ground through the splines on the shaft :!: 8O Don't know if he's fixed it yet.
Turns out, this is a fairly often reported problem in forums. Usually associated with a gearing change and aftermarket sprockets.
That much torque and lower gears...

I've got to tear into the right side cover on the Skorpion soon. There's a reported problem with Woodruff keys spliting and letting the balance shaft meet up with the crank...with the obvious, ensuing demolition...
Usually associated with "vigorous" riding, but I don't want to ignore it and "hope it doesn't happen."
Good luck,
Bill R

SpudRider

10-26-2010, 11:05 PM

Thank you for your tank color input, Bill. :) I ordered the red, Clarke, 4.7-gallon fuel tank from JustGasTanks.com. My fuel tank shipped out today, and is scheduled to arrive in two days!. This is the second, aftermarket fuel tank I have ordered from JustGasTanks. I really enjoy the low price guarantee, and the excellent customer service offered by this vendor! :D

Also, thank you for the advice regarding the countershaft splines. 8O I have read similar reports, so I will be sure to examine the countershaft. ;) Indeed, I am planning to replace the stock, 15T countershaft sprocket with a 14T, Primary Drive countershaft sprocket from Rocky Mountain ATV. Therefore, I will conduct some research, and proceed carefully with the sprocket change. ;) Some XR650L owners will only use the 14T, OEM, Honda, XR600R countershaft sprockets. ;) I think the hardened, Renthal countershaft sprockets have caused most of these problems. ;)

Spud :)

BillR

10-26-2010, 11:08 PM

SpudRider

10-26-2010, 11:16 PM

Also, thank you for the advice regarding the countershaft splines. 8O I have read similar reports, so I will be sure to examine the countershaft. ;) Spud :)
Glad you had already seen those threads. From "reading between the lines", I think most of the problems were from hard riding, but you never know.
Bill R
I certainly don't want to have to split the crankcase to replace a countershaft! 8O Therefore, I am going to exercise caution regarding these reports. ;) I examined the countershaft sprocket soon after I bought the bike. The current sprocket is stock, size 15T, and it is in good condition. Indeed, the rear sprocket is also in good condition. :) However, I am going to remove the countershaft sprocket, and examine the countershaft splines in the next few days. ;) Once again, thank you for the warning, Bill. :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-27-2010, 11:37 PM

This afternoon I removed the countershaft sprocket, and examined the countershaft splines; the splines were in excellent condition. :) The countershaft sprocket, and rear sprocket are in pretty good shape, but the drive chain needs to be replaced. The previous owners either didn't know, or didn't care about chain lubrication; a lot of the O-rings are cracked, or missing from the drive chain. 8O That's okay, because I am going to install a Primary Drive, X-ring drive chain from Rocky Mountain ATV. :) I will install new, Primary Drive sprockets at the same time. ;)

I am also going to remove the airbox snorkle, install a Uni air filter, and rejet the carburetor. In additon, I can't wait to get rid of the SMOG tumor, and the associated octopus of hoses! :twisted: As promised, I performed otoplasty on the BRP; the elephant ears are gone. ;) My red, Clarke, 4.7-gallon fuel tank is scheduled to arrive tomorrow! :D

Spud :)

mizke

10-28-2010, 02:35 AM

id say red with some new oem decals

spud have you thought about not getting the rack, and using the honda as your ds fun bike. use it as the bike you can ride to the area where you can just go wild and run the honda like a true dirt bike.

SpudRider

10-28-2010, 05:40 AM

I'm going to add a small rack to the Honda, Mike. I want to be able to attach luggage to the Honda for adventure rides. Also, I dress in layers, and I want a place to put my extra clothes, rain gear, et cetera. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

10-30-2010, 11:59 PM

Today I removed the hideous SMOG tumor, and charcoal cannister from my XR650L! :twisted: Here are photos of Porky before the SMOGectomy. :(

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/SMOGTumorRemoved002.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/SMOGTumorRemoved004.jpg

Here is the end result, after the hideous tumor was excised! :D

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/SMOGTumorRemoved009.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/SMOGTumorRemoved012.jpg

I feel much better after performing the SMOGectomy; I couldn't wait to get rid of that extra, hideous weight from my motorcycle! :D Also, I now have enough room to actually work on the engine and carburetor! :roll:

P.S. Today I also installed my Clarke, 4.7-gallon fuel tank. :) I will soon post photos of Porky, with his new fuel tank. ;)

Spud :)

Weldangrind

10-31-2010, 12:40 AM

Wow! that looks much cleaner.

Spud, when you have a moment, please measure the OD of your exhaust headers, and I'll compare them with mine. I would expect yours to be larger, but who knows?

SpudRider

10-31-2010, 03:32 AM

Wow! that looks much cleaner.

Spud, when you have a moment, please measure the OD of your exhaust headers, and I'll compare them with mine. I would expect yours to be larger, but who knows?
Thank you, W&G. I certainly will measure the OD of my current exhaust headers, and post the results for you. :)
Spud, please satisfy my curiousity and try a magnet test on the exhaust header. My '96 250 has a stainless header, so I'm surprised that yours would be mild steel.

If it's steel, maybe a dirt-only bike would be a good stainless donor.
I just bought a 1996, XR600R exhaust header on eBay. :) This exhaust header seems to be in excellent condition, and I am pretty sure it is manufactured from stainless steel. ;) I believe all late model, XR600R exhaust systems are compatible with the XR650L. I also believe all XR600R exhaust headers are stainless steel. I am eager to receive this exhaust header, and install it. :) As always, thank you for your excellent advice, Brother Derryk. :D

Spud :)

MICRider

10-31-2010, 07:33 AM

That does look a lot better without that octopus hanging off the side! By the pictures it looks like valve maintenance will be a snap as well. Gotta love a Honda :D

Cheers,
Stew

SpudRider

10-31-2010, 04:42 PM

That does look a lot better without that octopus hanging off the side! By the pictures it looks like valve maintenance will be a snap as well. Gotta love a Honda :D

Cheers,
Stew
Indeed, I can't remember seeing a more ugly appendage infecting any other motorcycle! 8O Fortunately, the SMOG tumor is easy to remove. :) I actually considered leaving the charcoal canister intact, since it is far less ugly than the SMOG tumor; however, the charcoal canister, and it's associated tangle of thick hoses, makes carburetor maintenance an absolute nightmare! I say good riddance to both monstrosities! :twisted:

Now that the SMOG tumors have been excised, maintenance will be a pleasure on this big Honda. :) I adjusted the valves immediately after I brought the bike home; it was a simple procedure. :) Porky's spark plug is difficult to remove, and replace. However, other than this minor annoyance, the BRP is very easy to maintain. :) I am very happy to have Porky as the Zong's companion. ;)

I took a brief ride this afternoon, between rain showers. As promised here are photographs of the new, Clarke, 4.7-gallon fuel tank.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/NewBRPFuelTank010.jpg

As with the 4.1-gallon fuel tank on my Zong, this 4.7-gallon fuel tank is superbly manufactured. The tank fits the XR650L perfectly, and extends the bikeâ€™s range another 100 miles. :)

I rode a few miles from home, and took this photograph in front of small peak overlooking a local high school in my valley.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/NewBRPFuelTank004.jpg

Here are a few photographs I took several weeks ago when I rode my Zong to the top of this peak. The first view is looking down, to the spot where I took Porkyâ€™s photograph. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/35KandBlackrock580.jpg

Here is the view looking to the other side of the peak. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/35KandBlackrock568.jpg

I have some nice photos from this ride, so I will post another ride report in the near future, and provide a link to the report in this thread. :)

Hereâ€™s another view of the Clarke tank, with another favorite mountain in the background. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/NewBRPFuelTank008.jpg

Here is the view from that peak, looking towards Porkyâ€™s location in the previous photograph. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/ScoutMtinSept021.jpg

I donâ€™t know if I mentioned this before, but we have some beautiful places to ride, here in Idaho. ;)

Here is another view of Porkyâ€™s new fuel tank. :) As I was taking the photograph below, I noticed two sources of movement on the mountain behind me. 8O

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/NewBRPFuelTank014.jpg

I was going to zoom in, and take another photo, but I needed to change the batteries in my camera. :( However, after I replaced the batteries, the sources of the movement had scurried away. ;)

Spud :)

Weldangrind

10-31-2010, 04:53 PM

SpudRider

10-31-2010, 08:31 PM

That tank looks really good Spud. I saw them online and was concerned that they might be a bit glossy, but yours looks nice and flat. :D

What is the status of the skidplate?

Excellent shots as usual. 8)
Thank you, W&G. :) The color of the Clarke tank is a very good match to Honda Red. Needless to say, the tank fits beautifully, and is mounted solidly. I really like Clarke fuel tanks. :)

I am ordering the skid plate, tomorrow, from Rocky Mountain ATV. Therefore, if it's in stock, I should have it on Tuesday. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-31-2010, 09:07 PM

The tank, the BRP, and I-der-ho all look wonderful Spud. Life is good indeed.

My 1996 XR250L also was a PIA to get to the sparkplug. As I recall the seat and tank had to come off.

SpudRider

10-31-2010, 09:07 PM

The rain passed on this afternoon, so I rode the Honda up a local mountaintop. :) Therefore, I present a few more photos of the XR650L with the Clarke fuel tank, and without SMOG tumors. :D

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/BRPonChinesePeak028.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/BRPonChinesePeak030.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/BRPonChinesePeak032.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/BRPonChinesePeak034.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/BRPonChinesePeak036.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/BRPonChinesePeak038.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/BRPonChinesePeak040.jpg

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-31-2010, 09:09 PM

I forgot to mention that the Clarke is an especially good match for the honda red color.

MICRider

10-31-2010, 09:18 PM

I have to admit, the red tank looks fantastic on your bike. I voted black because I like contrasts, but I hadn't considered the zebra effect. The red does go with the bike very nicely. Awesome looking ride! :D

Cheers,
Stew

SpudRider

10-31-2010, 09:40 PM

Thank you, Doc. Thank you, Stew. :) Indeed, the color of the Clarke tank matches the Honda Red superbly. Also, the shape, fit, ease of installation, and quality of construction are all superb; Clarke Manufacturing makes excellent fuel tanks! I am very pleased with both my Clarke fuel tanks. :D

P.S. Porky lost a few pounds with the installation of the Clarke fuel tank. :) As I was draining the fuel from it, I couldn't believe how heavy the stock, steel fuel tank was! 8O

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-31-2010, 10:02 PM

You can eBay the stock tank and recoup some of the cost of the Clarke, Spud.

SpudRider

10-31-2010, 10:14 PM

You can eBay the stock tank and recoup some of the cost of the Clarke, Spud.
I definitely intend to sell the stock fuel tank, and its "elephant ears." Thank you for the good suggestion, Doc. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

10-31-2010, 11:15 PM

I'd toss the tumors, Can't imagine anyone would want them. Maybe some greenie in Kalifornia wants them for his lawnmower? Never mind, their mowers are electric. :P

SpudRider

10-31-2010, 11:27 PM

I'd toss the tumors, Can't imagine anyone would want them. Maybe some greenie in Kalifornia wants them for his lawnmower? Never mind, their mowers are electric. :P
I would love to sell the tumors to some tree-hugger! :twisted: Alas, I also cannot imagine anyone who would want them! :lol: I get the impression Honda is notorious for this kind of EPA crap. :roll: Fortunately, the tumors were easily excised, and the "patient" has fully recovered; all is well. :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-02-2010, 12:04 AM

The stock XR650L is a tall motorcycle, with a seat height of 37 inches. 8O After doing some research, I decided to buy a Performance Design lowering link for my Honda. ;)

http://www.performance-design.net/performance_design_suspension.htm

Today my Christian Brother Andy helped me install the lowering link. :) When stopped, I can now reach the ground with both feet flat; I am very pleased with the results. The Performance Design lowering link is well designed, and well manufactured; I highly recommend this product. :)

After installing the lowering link, raising the forks, and adjusting the race sag, I headed out for a test ride. :) After riding the interstate at 85 mph, I headed down the Rockland Valley, then ascended Knox Canyon to 7,200 feet above sea level.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink006.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink011.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink017.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink023.jpg

Descending to the east, I encountered ice on the shaded, northern exposure of the mountain. 8O

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink035.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink036.jpg

I am pleased to say the XR650L handled very well riding over the ice. :) Descending into the Arbon Valley, I left the snow behind. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink042.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LwithPDLoweringLink043.jpg

The Performance Design lowering link worked great! :) My bike handles very well with the lowering link installed, and I am very glad I bought it. :D

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-02-2010, 12:47 AM

Spud you contine to outdo yourself with your workmanship, photography, and riding ability. That was quite a bit of snow!

Because I sometimes take pics to share with you all too, I appreciate all the time you put into sharing with us. :D

SpudRider

11-02-2010, 01:23 AM

Thank you, Brother Bill! I appreciate your kind words. :D

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-02-2010, 01:35 AM

85mph on a dual sport. That's like a dream I had.

The BRP doesn't look to be lower; even the kickstand still does the job. That's a well thought out link.

Excellent shots Spud. You're a brave guy for taking on the ice on such a big bike.

SpudRider

11-02-2010, 01:43 AM

85mph on a dual sport. That's like a dream I had...
Indeed, it's a dream come true. :)
...The BRP doesn't look to be lower; even the kickstand still does the job. That's a well thought out link...
Indeed, the Performance Design lowering link is very well designed. :) However, I definitely need to shorten my kick stand about an inch. ;)
...Excellent shots Spud. You're a brave guy for taking on the ice on such a big bike.
Thank you, W&G. :) The BRP handled the ice surprising well; the bike felt very stable. :D I was not surprised the Kenda, K760 tire I mounted on the rear wheel did an excellent job on the ice. ;) However, I was pleasantly surprised how well the Dunlop, D603F front tire performed! :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-03-2010, 11:08 PM

Today I made a few more changes to my BRP. :) After working on the bike I went for a ride, and took these two photos. How many changes can you discover in Porky, the Big Red Pig? ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/NewSkidplateetc005.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/NewSkidplateetc010.jpg

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-03-2010, 11:22 PM

Different rear sprocket.

FastDoc

11-03-2010, 11:23 PM

Skid plate.

FastDoc

11-03-2010, 11:23 PM

A little more mileage... :D

SpudRider

11-03-2010, 11:45 PM

Different rear sprocket.
You are correct, Doc! You found one of the changes. :) Today I installed a new, Primary Drive, X-ring drive chain. I also installed a new Primary Drive, countershaft sprocket, and a new, Primary Drive, rear sprocket.

Rocky Mountain ATV markets the Primary Drive sprockets and drive chains. I ordered these items (and several other items) on Tuesday, and they arrived on Wednesday. :) I really enjoy doing business with Rocky Mountain ATV. :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-03-2010, 11:49 PM

Skid plate.
You are correct again, oh wise physician! Today I also installed a Ricochet skid plate. :) Today I also installed two other, new items on Porky; however, these final two items are more difficult to identify. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-03-2010, 11:52 PM

A little more mileage... :D
Yes, of course! :lol: However, if the eagle-eyed members of these forums look closely, they might observe two other new pieces of hardware I installed today. ;)

Spud :)

davidsonsgccc

11-04-2010, 09:16 AM

new tires?

Weldangrind

11-04-2010, 11:42 AM

Handgrips? Although, that might qualify as software, not hardware. :lol:

FastDoc

11-04-2010, 11:52 AM

Shortened kickstand.

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 12:02 PM

new tires?
You are correct. :) Soon after I got the bike home, I did replace the worn rear tire with a new, Kenda K760 tire. :) However, the K760 is not one of the two items I replaced yesterday. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 12:04 PM

Handgrips? Although, that might qualify as software, not hardware. :lol:
No, I didn't replace the handgrips...yet. ;) However, you are getting warmer, W&G! One of the new items is quite small, very colorful, and located somewhat near the handgrips. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 12:09 PM

Shortened kickstand.
I still need to shorten the kick stand, Doc. ;) However, you are also getting warmer; in fact, you are red hot! :) The other new item I replaced yesterday is very close to the kick stand; it is also the same color as the kick stand. ;)

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-04-2010, 12:10 PM

While on the topic of the area around the handgrips, I recommend a handlebar pad. You don't want to eat that cross bar.

Weldangrind

11-04-2010, 12:11 PM

Is that a new spring loaded shifter?

Weldangrind

11-04-2010, 12:13 PM

The chain slider looks shiny and new.

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 12:14 PM

While on the topic of the area around the handgrips, I recommend a handlebar pad. You don't want to eat that cross bar.
Thank you for the tip, W&G. :) The new item located somewhat near the handgrips is quite small, but it's a welcome, necessary addition to the BRP. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 12:17 PM

Is that a new spring loaded shifter?
You are correct, my eagled-eyed, and wise, Canadian friend! Yesterday I installed a new, MSR shift lever! :) The original shift lever was slightly bent. ;) The new, MSR shift lever is very stout, slightly longer, and has a very nice, spring-loaded tip! :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 12:20 PM

The chain slider looks shiny and new.
I did wash the bike before I added the skid plate. ;) However, the chain slider still has a little life left in it; so I am going to replace it later. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-04-2010, 12:39 PM

Fuel tank overflow valve gizmo?

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 02:10 PM

Fuel tank overflow valve gizmo?
You are correct, Doc; you found the last new item! :) I purchased a red, gas tank vent valve from Rocky Mountain ATV, and installed it on the BRP yesterday. ;)

Yesterday I installed two new sprockets, a new, X-ring drive chain, an MSR shift lever, a Ricochet skid plate, and a gas tank vent valve. My luggage rack should arrive today, and my stainless steel exhaust header should arrive on Monday. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-04-2010, 02:13 PM

Git 'er done, Spud!

You are modifying her fast, but the season's growing short.

For your next mod may I suggest an electric vest plug in, and a vest to go with it? :idea:

Cal25

11-04-2010, 03:01 PM

And maybe a set of Wild Alaskan studded tars.

davidsonsgccc

11-04-2010, 04:56 PM

+1 on the heated vest and gloves.

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 09:29 PM

Git 'er done, Spud!

You are modifying her fast, but the season's growing short.

For your next mod may I suggest an electric vest plug in, and a vest to go with it? :idea:
Unlike the Zong, I think the XR650L stator has enough output to support an electric vest. ;) What model vest do you recommend, Doc?

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 09:33 PM

And maybe a set of Wild Alaskan studded tars.
I only ride my bikes in the winter when the streets are bare! :lol:

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-04-2010, 09:48 PM

Today my luggage rack arrived, as scheduled. :) However, I was disappointed to discover I needed longer bolts, so I had to make a trip to the hardware store. :roll: Why don't some of these manufacturers include the correct hardware! :x I'm glad an Ace Hardware store is fairly close to home. ;) After mounting the luggage rack, I took Porky for a ride, and shot the following photographs.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LLuggageRack010.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LLuggageRack012.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LLuggageRack014.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LLuggageRack017.jpg

The rack is sturdy, and lightweight; I also like the way it looks. Tomorrow I plan to install the mounting plate for my J.C. Whitney travel trunk. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-04-2010, 09:56 PM

FastDoc

11-04-2010, 09:58 PM

If your area of Idaho is like here today, it's starting to feel like Fall...

I took the long way home from work today. 35 miles rather than 5. You guys understand 8) . I was on the XS 400 with no electrics or windshield and I was cold. I'll start commuting on the Gold Wing probaly from here on in...

SpudRider

11-05-2010, 12:34 AM

The rack looks great. Perfect size.

Did you modify the tail light or did Porky come that way?

I have a Aerostich Kanetsu vest. It has an inflatable air bladder to hold it snug to your T-shirt for maximum heat transfer, and that also provides more insulation. The Gold Wing guys swear by Gerbing. I had an Eclipse vest that failed, and a replacement also failed. If Eclipse is still in business I don't recommend them. Widder also makes a good product, and less expensive I think.
Thank you for the kind words, and the heated vest information, Doc. :) The first owner modified the tail light; it is the only item on the bike that was not stock. ;) The tail light is small, and not very bright; I am going to replace it with something larger.

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-05-2010, 02:10 AM

I can't write this without giggling, but nice rack. :lol:

That taillight doesn't look like it has a license plate light. Instead, it looks like an XR taillight (not XR-L).

What's the benefit to the gas tank vent valve over a hose? Hose is all I've ever used on my XR.

SpudRider

11-05-2010, 10:08 PM

...nice rack. :lol:

That taillight doesn't look like it has a license plate light. Instead, it looks like an XR taillight (not XR-L).

What's the benefit to the gas tank vent valve over a hose? Hose is all I've ever used on my XR.
Thank you, W&G. The Manracks luggage rack also appears it will be a very good match for my J.C. Whitney, travel trunk, mounting plate. :)

You are correct; the previous owner installed an XR tail light. I am going to install either an enduro tail light, or an Edge 2 tail light, or both. :)

I prefer the smaller size, and the appearance of the gas tank vent valve. Also, since I can remove the gas cap entirely, and place it wherever I please, I think the vent valve might make filling the fuel tank easier. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-06-2010, 05:06 AM

Yesterday I ran the fuel tank to reserve; I traveled 199.7 miles, and used 4.02 gallons of fuel. I am pleased to know I can travel about 200 miles on the main tank, with 0.7 gallons in reserve fuel. :) So far I am averaging a consistent 50 mpg, so the reserve tank should carry me another 35 miles if I can drain it dry. ;)

I have decided to replace the current tail light with a Western Power Sports, Universal Tail Light. :)

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/195/27007/ITEM/Western-Power-Sports-Universal-Tail-Light.aspx?SiteID=CSE_Gbase_27007&WT.mc_ID=80003&zmam=88421133&zmas=1&zmac=45&zmap=27007

This tail light is reported to be bright, and only costs $12.99. :) In addition, this tail light appears to be designed for the XR650L, so the installation should be very simple. :D

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759799

Western Power Sports is a distributor located in Boise, Idaho, so I can order the tail light through my local Honda dealer without incurring shipping costs, and the tail light will be delivered several days later. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-06-2010, 11:52 AM

Super good dea :D l. Looks super easy and the light has awesome reviews. Looks like a wise purchace. 50 MPG sounds about right, especially with knobbies and the type of riding you do. All I can say is if you run out of gas with a 200+ mile range, it's your fault! 8)

Weldangrind

11-06-2010, 01:43 PM

*Note: Not D.O.T. approved in all states. Please check with your local laws before installing.

I wonder what that means? Is it because there's no license plate light? If that's the case, how is it any different from the light you're using now?

Still, can't argue with the price. :D

SpudRider

11-06-2010, 08:59 PM

*Note: Not D.O.T. approved in all states. Please check with your local laws before installing.

I wonder what that means? Is it because there's no license plate light?...
I don't know if it's D.O.T. approved, but I don't care. ;) I know I won't be bothered by the police here in the great, free, western state of Idaho. :D
... If that's the case, how is it any different from the light you're using now?

Still, can't argue with the price. :D
I'm pretty sure its brighter than the tail light now mounted on my bike. ;) A license plate light is not required for a motorcycle to be street legal in Idaho; however, the WPS Universal Tail Light does have a clear window at the bottom to illuminate the license plate. ;) In addition, the advertisement for the WPS tail light employs the same luggage rack I just installed on Porky! :D Therefore, I must have made the right selection! :lol:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/XR650LLuggageRack010.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/Western-Power-Sports-Universal-Tail-Lightjpg.jpg

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-08-2010, 07:36 PM

The nasty weather has finally arrived in Idaho. :( Knowing that Sunday was my last chance before the snow closed access, I rode my Big Red Pig to a favorite mountaintop. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP768.jpg

When I recently installed a new drive chain on Porky, I decreased the countershaft sprocket by one tooth. The reduced gearing made a definite improvement in the bike's off road performance. :) Earlier in the day, I also cruised Interstate 15 at 90 mph, so the bike's top speed was not adversely affected by the lower gearing. ;) However, when traveling through large, loose rocks, and other difficult terrain, the bike is still geared a little too high. Therefore, I am going to drop another tooth on the countershaft sprocket; this change is in agreement with most XR650L owners who ride rougher, off road terrain. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP774.jpg

If you look closely at the photo above, you can see Porky's red, lowering link. ;) I am going to change Porky's droopy, front fender to either a CRF230 fender, or an XR400R fender. I am going to keep the fender Honda Fighting Red. ;) However, I am also considering changing the color of both the headlight cowl, and the hand guards to white. ;) Gentlemen, do you think I should keep these items red, or choose white?

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-08-2010, 07:57 PM

I honestly think they would look good/maybe better in white but I'd not replace red parts that are not broken.

Does Polysport make a fender that fits the BRP?

It's not the weather that's killing me but the freakin' dark. :twisted:

FastDoc

11-08-2010, 07:58 PM

Heck get a blue seat and the BRP would look like The Dirt Rat's big brother, which I guess it is! :D

BillR

11-08-2010, 08:43 PM

FastDoc

11-08-2010, 09:06 PM

SpudRider

11-08-2010, 09:10 PM

I honestly think they would look good/maybe better in white but I'd not replace red parts that are not broken.

Does Polysport make a fender that fits the BRP?...
My XR650L is very clean, and I got a great deal on it. :D However, the headlight cowl and hand guards are scratched up a bit, so I thought I might replace them to match the excellent condition of the rest of the bike. ;) Since I might replace the parts, I figured I might as well choose the color I prefer. I can actually get white, Honda parts for a lower cost than the red, Honda parts. ;) I am also considering getting an aftermarket headlight. Baja Designs, Acerbis, Trail Tech, Polisport, et cetera, offer some very nice headlights. :)

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/195/35/1/0/0/DCLASS/Dirt-Bike-Motocross-Headlights-Lighting-Electrical-Accessories.aspx
http://www.trailtech.net/x2.html

It's funny you should mention it; Polisport does make a front fender that fits the XR650L. ;)

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=24&navTitle=Body&webCatId=10&keyword=FRONT+FENDERS&prodFamilyId=26999

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-08-2010, 09:14 PM

SpudRider

11-08-2010, 09:21 PM

Nice stuff Spud and good places to buy from. I know all about not quitting at 'good enough' also! I say get the white after,arket parts you like and eBay the Honda stuff and I bet you'll break even or maybe make some money. 8)
Thank you for your input, Brother Bill. :) Does anyone else have an opinion; should I stick with red, or choose white? :?:

Spud :)

katoranger

11-08-2010, 10:03 PM

I would go white. Break up the red of the fender and tank.

FastDoc

11-08-2010, 10:10 PM

Just make a Big Brother, Brother Spud!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/maule/DSC06422.jpg

SpudRider

11-08-2010, 11:27 PM

I would go white. Break up the red of the fender and tank.
Thank you for you input, Allen. :) The 2008 model of the XR650L had a white headlight cowl, with red hand guards.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/2008-Honda-XR650Lajpg.jpg

The 2009 model of the XR650L had a white headlight cowl, with white hand guards.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/2009-Honda-XR650Lajpg.jpg

This model also had a white rear fender, but I prefer the red rear fender. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-08-2010, 11:32 PM

Just make a Big Brother, Brother Spud!
:lol: I'm going to stick with a red front fender, and a red seat, Brother Bill. ;) However, your "Dirt Rat" is looking great with the patriotic color scheme. :)

Spud :lol:

Weldangrind

11-09-2010, 02:08 AM

I like the red headlight cowl. In fact, I like it so much that I'd be interested in buying it from you when you switch to white. The hand guards too. :lol:

SpudRider

11-09-2010, 04:21 AM

I like the red headlight cowl. In fact, I like it so much that I'd be interested in buying it from you when you switch to white. The hand guards too. :lol:
Thank you for your input, W&G. :) If I decide to replace these items, you will have first dibs on the old ones. ;)

The photographs below show an XR650L with a CRF250R front fender, and a Trail Tech X2 headlight. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/CRFFenderandTrailTechRight.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/CRFFenderandTrailTechLeft.jpg

Forum member SamM installed a Trail Tech X2 headlight on his KLR650.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9622&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

This headlight doesn't cost much more than new, OEM plastic, and it produces 70 watts of illumination. :) For this headlight, I prefer the Honda Red color. What do you gentlemen think of this configuration? :?:

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-09-2010, 09:54 AM

FastDoc

11-09-2010, 11:54 AM

It's funny how some things just look lighter! More light is always better. Has this upgrade been done by anyone at TT or the XR650 forums you've seen?

SpudRider

11-10-2010, 02:12 AM

I like the red better, but the white does look good with the white hand guards and white side panels. In stock configuration, your bike is a sea of red and black with only the side panels in white; I happen to prefer that, but some extra white detail is nice.

I'm glad you bought the red tank. I have a white tank on my '96, and I hate it. Since I can only ride off-road with it, I can't justify a Clarke with extra fuel capacity. We're never far away enough from the truck to require more than one tank of fuel.
I'm also glad I bought the red fuel tank, Brother Derryk. :) May I infer you think the bike looks great as it is currently configured? I think you have a very good eye for esthetics, and I value your opinions. :) Would you change the front fender, or anything else from Porky's current configuration? :?:

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-10-2010, 02:32 AM

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP774.jpg

I wouldn't change a thing. That's a sweet bike. 8) I waited a long time for Honda red colours, and I wish I had the tank you have.

SpudRider

11-10-2010, 02:32 AM

It's funny how some things just look lighter! More light is always better. Has this upgrade been done by anyone at TT or the XR650 forums you've seen?
Please elaborate, Doc. Do you think the Trail Tech, X2 headlight is lighter in weight, or offers brighter illumination than the stock headlight? The HID version of the X2 headlight gets rave reviews, but is generally considered too bright/illegal for highway use. ;) The halogen, dual sport version of the X2 headlight is at least as bright as the stock headlight; perhaps it is slightly brighter. I think the two headlights are comparable in brightness. ;)

I think the X2 headlight is better looking than stock. However, the X2 headlight might offer mounting problems, and might not be as robust as the stock headlight. ;) The stock headlight offers another advantage; it uses the same, H4 halogen bulbs as my modified Zong. :D

If you are interested in learning more about the Trail Tech, X2 headlight, here are some links to a few threads. ;)

http://www.ecea.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18944
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=681023
http://www.dirtrider.com/drtested/141_1005_trail_tech_torch_x2_halogen_headlight/index.html
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=620628
http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthread.php?t=65267
http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-10-2010, 03:08 AM

I wouldn't change a thing. That's a sweet bike. 8) I waited a long time for Honda red colours, and I wish I had the tank you have.
Thank you, W&G. :D The BRP is surprising agile off road! Once I install a 13T countershaft sprocket, Porky will be able to ride 90% of the trails I currently ride on my Zong. :D In addition, Porky is happy to travel the interstate for extended periods of time at 80 mph. ;) Here are a few more photos, showing Porky from a variety of angles at 9,000 feet above sea level. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP745.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP746.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP748.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP750.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP752.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP754.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP756.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP757.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP758.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP760.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP762.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP763.jpg

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-10-2010, 11:31 AM

This latest batch of photos has prompted me to drill out my homemade skid plate to look like yours. It should be a little easier to clean that way.

FastDoc

11-10-2010, 11:42 AM

Looks great, Spud. I bet there's snow on those mountains today.... 8O

SpudRider

11-10-2010, 02:12 PM

FastDoc

11-10-2010, 02:21 PM

Looks great, Spud. I bet there's snow on those mountains today.... 8O
Thank you, Doc. :) Indeed, I knew the snow was coming, so I took advantage of the warm weather to make one last trip to this mountaintop. ;) All the mountains here are now covered with snow. I won't get back to this particular summit until the middle of July, or the first part of August next year. :(

Spud :)

Time for an ATV?

At least the lower trails should be open most of the winter, I would think.

It's the dark thats keeping me from riding here. I've been commuting on the Gold Wing, it's a lot warmer than my other bikes. I HOPE to get The Dirt Rat out for a little bit today if I can get done before dark.

SpudRider

11-10-2010, 03:06 PM

...At least the lower trails should be open most of the winter, I would think...
I live at 4,600 feet above sea level, and this peak rises to almost 9,000 feet above sea level. :) We don't have any low trails here, Doc! :lol:

From this peak on a clear day, you can see the Teton Range in Wyoming, 107 aerial miles distant. :D Hereâ€™s a photo of my Zong on this summit, with Grand Teton Peak visible on the horizon, directly over the GPS mount on my handlebars. :D

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP412.jpg

Hereâ€™s a closeup view of the Tetons, taken from the same location. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/Tetoncloseup25.jpg

In the earlier photographs I posted, Porky was posed in the very same spot, 24 hours later; however, visibility was reduced to a mere 50 miles, so the Tetons were not visible at that time. ;) :lol:

Needless to say, I love riding to this mountaintop. ;) I was very glad to get a last chance to ride up there with both my Zong, and Porky, before the snow covered the mountain until next summer. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-10-2010, 03:10 PM

Dang that's high!

Amazing view too.

SpudRider

11-10-2010, 03:39 PM

Dang that's high!

Amazing view too.
Amen! Just think, Brother Bill, we live on a cursed Earth; imagine how beautiful heaven will be! :D

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-10-2010, 03:41 PM

Very well said. :D

There is a lot to enjoy here, for a season.

SpudRider

11-11-2010, 11:26 PM

This afternoon my Christian Brother Andy shortened Porky's kick stand by one inch. I will try to install the mounting plate for my J.C. Whitney travel trunk in the next few days. :)

The daily high temperatures here are now barely above freezing. Here are some photos taken during warmer weather, which is, alas, gone until spring. :(

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP674.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP696.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP672.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastScoutTripBRP676.jpg

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-11-2010, 11:48 PM

Cold winters are a fair price for the utterly amazing riding you get to do 8-9 months out of the year, Brother Spud. I'd bet our members down in the flat but warmer southern climes would be the first to agree.

Today I put the XS400 up for the season. She's pickled in the barn with the GS750. With the colder weather I'll use the Gold Wing to commute on with it's full electric heat and huge windshield. The Dirt Rat and Q and the ATV will see year round usage, but less so because it's DARK when I get home from work every day. I hate that!

Weldangrind

11-12-2010, 02:31 AM

I second Doc's earlier suggestion of an ATV for the winter months. Our Beasts give TurboT and I some much needed sanity during the winter season.

FastDoc

11-12-2010, 11:29 AM

I figure fun on the ATV can be had with a windchill of less than 20 MPH :D . I also use heated gloves and I'm good to go. I've seen some inexpensive ATV windshields also that may be worth looking into.

SpudRider

11-12-2010, 09:19 PM

The high temperature reached 40 degrees Fahrenheit today, so I installed my second, J.C. Whitney mounting plate on Porky's luggage rack! :D After picking up some groceries, I headed a few miles south of town to get a photograph of the travel trunk mounted on my BRP before the sun went down. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/TravelTrunk003.jpg

The lowest elevation here is 4,600 feet above sea level, so we don't have any "low" trails. ;) All of the mountain trails are closed to ATVs in the middle of November, and won't reopen until spring. Also, I must admit, I greatly prefer motorcycles to ATVs, so I will content myself to ride the urban streets whenever the pavement is dry, and eagerly await the passage of winter. ;)

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-12-2010, 11:20 PM

Being such a tall bike, it occurred to me that a vertically challenged person might have trouble climbing aboard with the trunk in place.

The trunk looks right at home on Porky, Spud. 8)

SpudRider

11-12-2010, 11:47 PM

Being such a tall bike, it occurred to me that a vertically challenged person might have trouble climbing aboard with the trunk in place.

The trunk looks right at home on Porky, Spud. 8)
Thank you, Brother Derryk. :) Since I installed the Performance Design lowering link, Porky is exactly the right height for me. :D However, the stock, 37-inch seat height is definitely very tall. ;)

I decided to purchase my Manracks luggage rack for several reasons. ;)

1) The price for this rack is very reasonable.
2) This luggage rack has bungee rails underneath to facilitate bungee hookup.
3) The rack attaches securely to the bike.
4) This rack doesn't require you to relocate the stock tool kit.
5) This luggage rack is narrow, and attaches farther back on the bike, so it does not hinder either mounting, or dismounting the motorcycle. :D

Because of reason #5, I can easily mount, and dismount my BRP, even with the J.C. Whitney travel trunk installed! :D However, you are certainly correct, oh wise and observant friend; the Honda, XR650L is not a good choice for the "vertically challenged" rider. ;)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-13-2010, 02:13 AM

Looks great Spud. I was wondering if you'd use the same trunk on both bikes or get another.

I also greatly prefer bikes to ATV's but they are fun in their own way too.

SpudRider

11-13-2010, 02:30 AM

Looks great Spud. I was wondering if you'd use the same trunk on both bikes or get another.

I also greatly prefer bikes to ATV's but they are fun in their own way too.
Thank you, Doc. :) I use my J.C. Whitney travel trunk all the time, so I bought a second trunk a while ago while they were still priced at $48, delivered. ;) I decided I would like to have a spare trunk handy in case the first trunk became damaged, and I could also acquire a second mounting plate. ;) Therefore, when I acquired Porky, I had the second mounting plate available to attach to the BRP's luggage rack. :) I need to fix the hinge pins on my original travel trunk, so I am currently using the spare trunk on both motorcycles. ;)

Whether I am running errands, grocery shopping, or traveling with my motorcycle, I really enjoy taking the J.C. Whitney travel trunk along with me. :D I am very glad I bought a second travel trunk when they were priced at $48, delivered. :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

11-14-2010, 10:01 PM

Today I made another trip to the grocery store with Porky. Here's a view of the J.C. Whitney travel trunk from the left side of the motorcycle. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/TravelTrunkXRLeftSide012.jpg

P.S. I am so very glad I excised the SMOG tumors from Porky! I never enjoyed a mechanical project more than I enjoyed Porky's SMOGectomy! :twisted:

Spud :)

MICRider

11-14-2010, 10:18 PM

Looks sharp with the trunk Spud! Very nice bike :D

Cheers,
Stew

SpudRider

11-14-2010, 10:22 PM

Looks sharp with the trunk Spud! Very nice bike :D

Cheers,
Stew
Thank you, Stew. :D I love my J.C. Whitney travel trunk; I am lost without it. ;) I couldn't wait to get the trunk installed on Porky! :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-14-2010, 10:56 PM

Snow's getting low Spud! Glad you and Porky are having such a good time. Have you looked into electric gear? I installed the outlets on The Dirt Rat for my vest and gloves.

SpudRider

11-23-2010, 09:56 AM

Snow's getting low Spud! Glad you and Porky are having such a good time. Have you looked into electric gear? I installed the outlets on The Dirt Rat for my vest and gloves.
I haven't yet researched the electric vests, Doc. However, I'm sure the XR650L generates enough electricity to support them. ;) When the cold weather descends upon Idaho, all the mountain trails are closed, and even the paved roads outside town become icy. Therefore, after the cold arrives, I just bundle up, and ride around town at 35 mph. ;)

Watching the weather reports, I knew last Thursday was going to be my last, decent day to ride this year. Therefore, I took Porky on a 150-mile ride to the Blackfoot Reservoir, and back.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastRes2010090.jpg

I posted a thread containing more photos from this trip in the Ride Reports Forum. :)

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=110713#110713

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-23-2010, 10:16 AM

That's just how an XR should look. :D

Have you received your stainless header yet? I'd recommend polishing it before installation, because it makes clean-up so much easier.

SpudRider

11-23-2010, 10:38 AM

That's just how an XR should look. :D

Have you received your stainless header yet? I'd recommend polishing it before installation, because it makes clean-up so much easier.
Indeed, all "pigs" love the mud, and Porky, the BRP, is no exception. ;) :lol:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/LastRes2010042.jpg

I'm afraid I have disappointing news regarding the XR600R exhaust header I acquired; it is not made of stainless steel. :roll: I have subsequently discovered only the 88-90, XR600R exhaust headers were constructed from stainless steel, and they employ a muffler different from my XR650L. :? Therefore, my only option is to purchase an aftermarket, stainless steel exhaust header.

Although it is expensive, I think I'm going to buy an FMF, Hi-Flo exhaust header for Porky. ;) I really like the appearance, and the ease of maintenance associated with a stainless steel exhaust header. Below is a link to the best deal I have found; prepare yourself for "sticker shock". :roll:

http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/3028/PU/FMF-H405H

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-23-2010, 11:13 AM

SpudRider

11-23-2010, 12:13 PM

That price isn't as bad as I figured. The exhaust header on your bike looks just like mine. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the XR400 pipe is the very same size as the XR650L, even though there is 250cc difference. Maybe some further research will point you to an OEM stainless header.

My XR250R is a '96, and they were the same throughout 2004, and they shared many parts with the same year XR400. They all had stainless headers.
I think the following thread summarizes the reasons the XR400R/XR250R headers are probably different from the XR600R/XR650L headers, W&G. ;) What do you think?

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=926734

Spud :)

Weldangrind

11-23-2010, 12:40 PM

SpudRider

11-23-2010, 12:48 PM

Like he said, it was only a guess. The only way to know for sure is to measure them. I could measure the OD of the header pipes at the head, as well as the center to center distance, but my bike is only a 250. Knowing Honda's small block Chevy approach to bike building, I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the XR400 pipes are way oversized for the application, and that they are the same diameter as an XR650L.

It would be quicker and easier to just buy the aftermarket pipe.
Thank you for the kind offer, Brother Derryk! :) Please do measure your XR250R exhaust header as you described. The O.D. of my XR600R header pipes is 1.5 inches (38mm) across the pipe flange, and the center-to-center distance between the two pipes is 3-5/8 inches (92mm). The distance between the outside edges of both header pipes if 5-1/8 inches (130mm). :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-23-2010, 12:57 PM

I love the BRP playing in the mud, Spud. Do you have a powerwasher? 8)

SpudRider

11-23-2010, 01:22 PM

I love the BRP playing in the mud, Spud. Do you have a powerwasher? 8)
No, I clean both my bikes with a garden hose, and the water pressure available at my house. :) I needed to wash Porky when the temperature was 38 degrees Fahrenheit; the daily high temperatures since then have been below freezing. :( I hate winter! :evil:

Spud :)

FastDoc

11-23-2010, 01:43 PM

+ infinity on the winter thoughts, Spud. I'm lucky to have hot and cold water to a spigot in my garage. I hook that up to the powerwasher and I can clean anything. I also have a big diesel powered heater in the garage that works well.

deputygene

12-04-2010, 01:35 PM

Hey Spud, glad your liking your BRP! Like mine too. My wife and I are still prepping our bikes for a run at the TAT, hopefully next year. Heres a couple pics of our bikes. I went with the Acerbus 5.8 gallon tank and Borego rack.
Outer Banks, getting ready to board the fairy
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/outer%20banks/HPIM0512.jpg
Top of Morrow Mountain
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/Ride%20today%20to%20Uharrie/HPIM0269.jpg
XR with camping gear

[img]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/HPIM0265.jpg
stream crossing
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/HPIM0446.jpg
we have added GPS, Garmin 60cx for me, 60 csx for hers
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/Blue%20ridge%20trip/HPIM0625-1.jpg
We have been on several trips camping out. We are still learning and acquiring the gear we need.
[img]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/Blue%20ridge%20trip/HPIM0591.jpg
We are running Kenda K270 tires on both bikes, I have put on 3000 miles on mine now with about 1/3 tread left. Ultra heavy duty tubes in both bikes.
I have a tailpipe from XR's only to install. The saddlebags are tourmaster ebay finds. Working ok so far.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/HPIM0449.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/HPIM0450.jpg

deputygene

12-04-2010, 02:20 PM

Oh yeah, we added one addition to our bike stable.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/deputygene/Motorcycles/HPIM0631.jpg
a 75' XS 650. It will go with my 73 when I get the 73 running for a retro ride. The 75 sounds great, it has been lowere 1 inch which gives it a rough ride.

Weldangrind

12-04-2010, 03:35 PM

Nice machines Gene!

I encourage you to start a new thread for them and share your adventures with us. We love photos! :D

FastDoc

12-04-2010, 04:04 PM

Wow I love those pics! Seems that an XR650 in the right hands is an excellent adventure tourer!

I also like the old XS. I have a restored 1981 XS400. I like that old bike!

SpudRider

12-04-2010, 05:09 PM

Thanks for letting me know about your BRP, Gene! Your XR650L, and your DR650SE motorcycles both look great. :)

How do you like the Acerbis, 5.8-gallon fuel tank? Did you have any fitment issues getting it mounted? I really like the dual fuel petcocks on the Acerbis gas tank. :) I also think soft luggage is the way to go when outfitting the XR650L for touring. ;) Please tell me more about your saddle bags, and, if possible, give me a web link to a vendor. :)

Are you getting good traction in the dirt with the Kenda K270 tires? I really like the Kenda, TrakMaster rear tire I have mounted on my BRP; however, I am only going to get about 1,500 miles wear from it. ;) I am considering mounting a Maxxis Desert IT as the next rear tire. The Dunlop D606 is also supposed to last longer, and offer decent traction in the dirt. ;) Thanks for posting the great photos! The XR650L is a wonderful motorcycle; I really enjoy mine. :D

Spud :)

MICRider

12-04-2010, 05:25 PM

X2 on the Kenda's, how are they in the loose stuff? I want to get a K760 like Spud runs, but 80 to 90% of my riding is street so they might be a little too short lived.

Cheers,
Stew

FastDoc

12-04-2010, 05:54 PM

I have Dunlop dirt only knobbies on Q and they seem to wear like iron. They are not DOT legal but you live in Idaho!

deputygene

12-04-2010, 05:57 PM

Hey Spud, no fitment issues with the tank, followed some directions found on Thumpertalk, let the tank sit in the sun all morning to warm up and it slid right on.

The 270's seem to last forever. They are slippery on the street when first mounted but seem to get better with a little wear. The do fill with mud, but seem to keep right on churning. I like them, I think they are a true 50/50 tire, not great in the dirt or on the street, but ok on both. I think I will get 4000 miles out of mine, with a good bit of rear wheel spin. She will, riding much easier, probably get 5000 miles on hers. Both of our front tires are now toast and I am looking for a replacement. I hate the Suzuki Trail Wings, might replace both with what came stock on the Honda. Do you have a front tire preference?
As per DOT legal, maybe things are different elsewhere, but I have never, ever, seen an officer get down and inspect the sidewall of a motorcycle to see if it is street legal.

I found the tourmaster saddlebags on Ebay. Here is a link to another set I am looking at. If these don't go too high I might replace the set on the Honda. The older bags are a little bit more "floppy" than the newer ones.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280597387598&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
They are ok, the newer bags have bigger zippers that work better than the older zippers on the set I have for my Honda. I also got the Deluxe tail bag, but will replace it as it doesn't have enough capacity. Nice bag though. Here is a link to it.
http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/catalog/Deluxe-Tail-Bag-p-141_32.html
I didn't see the saddlebags I have on this website, they might be discontinued. These saddlebags are not waterproof. I sprayed both with a can of waterproofer, but on our outerbanks ride they were soaked through. Lesson learned, plastic bags to wrap the contents are a good idea.

SpudRider

12-04-2010, 06:28 PM

Thank you for the information, Gene. I'm so glad a fellow China Rider also has an XR650L! :D I encounter a lot of mud riding in the spring and fall, so I am going to keep a more aggressive rear tire on my BRP. ;) I'm going to first try the Maxxis, Desert IT, rear tire. :)

My used, BRP came with a Dunlop D603F, front tire; this tire works pretty well, but I can't find it for sale in the United States. ;) I think I am going to replace the D603F with either a size 3.00-21, C858 front tire, or a Kenda, Washougal, K775 front tire. I also hear the Scorpion Pro, XCMH front tire is excellent, but a little more expensive. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

12-04-2010, 06:33 PM

I have Dunlop dirt only knobbies on Q and they seem to wear like iron. They are not DOT legal but you live in Idaho!
I have discovered the powerful torque of the XR650L engine likes to eat tires, Doc. 8O I have been told that 1,500 miles from a Kenda, TrakMaster, rear tire is fantastic mileage on the BRP! I get 4,000 miles from the same tire on my Zong. ;) I think either the Maxxis, Desert IT, or the Dunlop, D606 will give me the best wear for a rear tire on Porky. The Maxxis tire is non-DOT, and I don't care, since I live in the great, free, western state of Idaho. :D

Spud :)

katoranger

12-04-2010, 08:24 PM

Spud, that's only one ride per tire. :lol:

SpudRider

12-04-2010, 08:29 PM

Spud, that's only one ride per tire. :lol:
:lol:

Spud :lol:

SpudRider

12-12-2010, 10:35 PM

Today I installed a Parts Unlimited, 13T countershaft sprocket on my 2005 XR650L. This sprocket makes a nice, tight fit with the countershaft splines, and also employs the sprocket retaining clip. :) Since the temperature reached a balmy, 51 degrees Fahrenheit this afternoon, I went for a 40-mile ride to test my new, 13T countershaft sprocket. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/12-12-10XR650LRide003.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/2005%20Honda%20XR650L/12-12-10XR650LRide006.jpg

After experimenting with the stock 15T/45T gearing, and the somewhat lower 14T/45T gearing, I am very pleased with my current, 13T/45T gearing. :) I will definitely keep this gear ratio when my current sprockets wear out, and I switch to a 14T/48T sprocket combination for the next set of sprockets. :)

Spud :)

Jim

12-12-2010, 10:46 PM

Glad to hear you like that setup. As always thanks for sharing the great photos. :)

SpudRider

12-12-2010, 11:28 PM

Glad to hear you like that setup. As always thanks for sharing the great photos. :)
Thank you, Jim. :) Almost everyone reports the stock gearing on the XR650L is too tall. :roll: Nevertheless, I was very surprised to discover I needed to drop two teeth on the countershaft sprocket to properly gear the bike low enough for trail riding! 8O I am positive I am going to enjoy the much lower gearing. :) The bike's torquey motor now launches the motorcycle away from stop lights even faster than before, and I can still reach 85mph on level roads! :D

Spud :)

SpudRider

02-13-2011, 05:49 AM

Today the high temperature reached a balmy, 45 degrees Fahrenheit. ;) Therefore, I took the opportunity to mount a new, CST, Surge I, front tire to replace the Dunlop, D603 front tire on my XR650L. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/CSTSurgeIFrontTire013.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/CSTSurgeIFrontTire015.jpg

Riding a few miles south of town, I tested the new tire in some soggy grass. The relatively narrow tire bit into the grass, and felt very stable. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/CSTSurgeIFrontTire029.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/CSTSurgeIFrontTire037.jpg

Then I went for a 15-mile ride, and tested the new tire on the pavement.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/CSTSurgeIFrontTire040.jpg

Although it is not advertised as such, my Surge I tire has the DOT lettering on the sidewall. ;) I tested the front tire up to 85 mph, indicated, and it performed very well. :) I will post further reports of this tire after the weather warms up, and I ride the muddy gravel roads produced by the spring thaw.

Spud :)

FastDoc

02-13-2011, 10:55 AM

Weldangrind

02-13-2011, 12:45 PM

I'll bet that it felt great to get out and ride. It's been so long for me that I hope I still know how.

MICRider

02-13-2011, 02:38 PM

SpudRider

02-13-2011, 07:54 PM

Great looking bike and wonderful scenery. I'm glad you got out for a nice ride. Yesterday was particularly warm in the Northwest!

That's a very aggressive looking tire. I bet it will work very well for your needs. It's interesting that it's DOT legal, it sure looks like off road in the pictures. I wonder what the criteria are for a D/S tire to be DOT anyway? That would be interesting to know.

The BRP is an amazing beast, Brother Spud. It's sunny and 'warm' here today too, I hope it is there and you get out for a ride.

AFTER church, of course. :wink:
Thank you, Brother Bill. Indeed, I went for a 50-mile ride today; the weather was beautiful for the middle of February. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/CSTRide2016.jpg

I didn't know the Surge I, front tire was DOT approved until I examined the sidewall. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/DOTMarks003.jpg

I have never seen the CST Surge tire advertised as DOT approved; however, as you can see, the sidewall contains the three magic letters. :) I don't own the rear, Surge I tire; therefore, I don't know if the rear tire has the DOT markings. ;)

The manufacturer has to submit tires for testing in order to gain DOT approval; however, I don't know what the testing standards require, Doc. ;) In any event, the Surge I tire is well behaved on the pavement for having such a relatively narrow, aggressive tread. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

02-13-2011, 08:00 PM

I'll bet that it felt great to get out and ride. It's been so long for me that I hope I still know how.
Indeed, I enjoyed myself very much, Brother Derryk. :) I am very pleased to report the weather is supposed to remain warm for another two days! :D The Surge I, front tire rides smoothly on pavement, and is not unduly disturbed by either cracks in the pavement, or "tar snakes." The main difference I noticed is the Surge I tire has quickened the steering, making the bike more eager to turn at all speeds. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

02-13-2011, 08:10 PM

I'll bet that it felt great to get out and ride. It's been so long for me that I hope I still know how.

Lol, same here! Every morning when I leave for work the KLR looks so forlorn tucked away waiting for decent weather... I even have a cool taillight upgrade (safetywise) to install, but I don't want to put it on till I can compare it to the original (battery is out etc...) Waiting, patiently waiting for spring...

Cheers,
Stew
Spring is just around the corner; hang in there, Stew! ;) However, I must admit, my spirits have been lifted by this brief window of warmer weather. :D

Here's a photograph comparing the CST, Surge I, size 80/100-21 tire, the Dunlop, D603F, size 3.00-21 tire, and the Cheng Shin, C858, size 2.75-21 tire. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/CSTSurgeIFrontTire017.jpg

Spud :)

FastDoc

02-13-2011, 10:18 PM

Spud, my experience with tall front knobbies is that it normalizes the speedometer error, if the BRP read a tad fast before it will probably be on the money now. Thats the way if was with Q, and the HSUN before it.

SpudRider

02-16-2011, 03:26 AM

The weather reached a balmy 48 degrees Fahrenheit today, so I went for a 100-mile ride, and took the following photographs. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/XRLFebRide013.jpg

I have now ridden 200 miles on my Surge I, front tire. :) Today I was pleased to discover it performed quite well in soggy, muddy, and snowy terrain. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/XRLFebRide022.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/XRLFebRide049.jpg

The Surge I, front tire also works surprisingly well on the street. :) Here's a photograph of the Surge I tire, with 150 miles of wear.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/XRLFebRide057.jpg

Here's a photograph of my Kenda, K760, rear tire with 1,400 miles of wear.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/XRLFebRide059.jpg

I really enjoy the Kenda, K760 rear tire, but I will soon replace it with either a Dunlop D952, Maxx Cross Desert IT, or Dunlop D606 tire. I hope my BRP can get better wear from one of these other tires. ;)

Spud :)

FastDoc

02-16-2011, 11:48 AM

SpudRider

02-16-2011, 07:10 PM

As always Spud great pics. :D

It's funny how warm 48 feels in the middle of winter. :wink:

I highly recommend the Dunlop.

FWIW the KLX comes with D/S Dunlops with what looks like a perfect tread pattern. If you like I can photograph them for you and provide you with the model number. :idea:
Thank you, Bill. Please do tell more about your Dunlop tires. :) If I can get 3,000 "good" miles from an aggressive, knobby, rear tire, I will be happy. :) If neither the Dunlop, D952 rear tire, nor the Maxxis, Desert IT rear tire, will last 3,000 miles, I'm pretty sure the Dunlop, D606 rear tire will last 3,000 miles. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

02-16-2011, 11:45 PM

Check out this tire, Spud. looks like an amazing deal.

http://www.happy-trail.com/Tires/Michelin-T63-Rear.aspx

SpudRider

02-17-2011, 12:12 AM

Check out this tire, Spud. looks like an amazing deal.

http://www.happy-trail.com/Tires/Michelin-T63-Rear.aspx
Yes, I have read good reports on the Michelin, T63 tires. :) I might experiment with the T63 tire in the future; however, I currently prefer the more aggressive tread patterns. 8)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/XRLFebRide028.jpg

Spud :)

Weldangrind

02-17-2011, 12:31 AM

That's a beautiful shot Spud. :D

SpudRider

02-17-2011, 12:50 AM

That's a beautiful shot Spud. :D
Thank you, W&G. :) We just had 4 days of beautiful weather, and now it is snowing once again. :roll: I am very happy we only have about a month left until spring officially arrives! :D

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/XRLFebRide017.jpg

Spud :)

SpudRider

02-21-2011, 01:34 AM

After experimenting with Photoshop, I've decided to perform some rhinoplasty on my XR650L. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide013-Copy.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide013.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide029-Copy.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide029.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide007-Copy.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide007.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide026-Copy.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide026.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/LastScoutTripBRP652.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/Fendertrim3.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XR650Lanotherride020.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XR650Lanotherridetrimmed.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide043-Copy.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Trimmed%20Fender/XRLFebRide043.jpg

I'm definitely going to trim the bike's proboscis! :)

Spud :)

Jim

02-21-2011, 01:51 AM

What are you using for a camera? You are always posting some excellent photos.

SpudRider

02-21-2011, 02:07 AM

What are you using for a camera? You are always posting some excellent photos.
Thank you, Jim. :) I'm using a Canon Powershot A590, point-and-shoot camera. :)

Spud :)

mjs91882

02-21-2011, 06:11 PM

Spud excellent pictures my man! Looks like you and the bike are having alot of fun! How warm was it there when u went for this lovely ride? Alot of these roads look pretty remote with no traffic?

SpudRider

02-21-2011, 06:31 PM

Spud excellent pictures my man! Looks like you and the bike are having alot of fun! How warm was it there when u went for this lovely ride? Alot of these roads look pretty remote with no traffic?
Thank you. :) The high temperature during these rides was 40-45 degrees, Fahrenheit. ;) Indeed, there are many beautiful places to ride in Idaho. :D

Spud :)

Weldangrind

02-21-2011, 09:14 PM

Do you plan to trim the beak or just buy a shorter one?

SpudRider

02-22-2011, 01:04 AM

Do you plan to trim the beak or just buy a shorter one?
I plan to trim the current proboscis. ;) I am going to be conservative, and start by trimming 2-inches. Since I raised the forks 1-inch when I installed the lowering link, I figure I can trim the first inch "for free." ;) After assessing the effects, I will then decide whether to trim more, or buy an aftermarket fender. I plan to trim only 4-inches at most. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-02-2011, 03:51 AM

On February 28 the temperature reached a balmy, 38 degrees Fahrenheit. :roll: Therefore, I mounted a new, Maxxis, Maxx Cross, IT tire on my rear wheel. :) The following photograph shows the Kenda, K760, TrakMaster tire I replaced after 1,500 miles, juxtaposed with the new, Maxxis, Maxx Cross, IT tire.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/MaxxCrossITMounted006.jpg

After mounting the new rear tire, I went for a 50-mile ride. The following photographs show my bike with its recently trimmed front fender, and new tires, both front and rear. I think the Cheng Shin, Surge I, front tire is matched nicely by the Maxxis, Maxx Cross, IT tire in the rear. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/MaxxCrossITMounted029.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/MaxxCrossITMounted034.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/MaxxCrossITMounted041.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/MaxxCrossITMounted044.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/MaxxCrossITMounted049.jpg

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-02-2011, 04:01 AM

Looking in my mailbox today, I discovered two packages. :) One package contained a ManRacks shark fin for my rear brake rotor! The other package contained extra-large foot pegs I had ordered from eBay. Since the temperature today reached a high of 45 degrees Fahrenheit, I decided to install all the new items, and go for a 90-mile ride. Spring is just around the corner! :D

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Foot%20Pegs%20and%20Shark%20Fin/SharkFinNewFootPegs125.jpg

I really like the ManRacks shark fin. It fits great, is very light in weight, and looks great! :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Foot%20Pegs%20and%20Shark%20Fin/SharkFinNewFootPegs055.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Foot%20Pegs%20and%20Shark%20Fin/SharkFinNewFootPegs089.jpg

The extra-large foot pegs cost me less than $19, delivered. They were easy to install, and work great; I am very pleased with them. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Foot%20Pegs%20and%20Shark%20Fin/SharkFinNewFootPegs073.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Foot%20Pegs%20and%20Shark%20Fin/SharkFinNewFootPegs093.jpg

Both my Maxxis, Maxx Cross, IT rear tire, and my CST, Surge I, front tire performed well in the snow and loose gravel. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Foot%20Pegs%20and%20Shark%20Fin/SharkFinNewFootPegs113.jpg

The Maxxis rear tire is showing very little wear after 150 miles on the pavement.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Foot%20Pegs%20and%20Shark%20Fin/SharkFinNewFootPegs147.jpg

Spud :)

Jim

03-02-2011, 08:24 AM

COol pictures :)

Weldangrind

03-02-2011, 10:09 AM

Those are the very pegs I installed on my XR. I couldn't get used to the small pegs with dirt bike boots.

Amazing pics Spud. Welcome back. :D

SpudRider

03-02-2011, 01:30 PM

COol pictures :)
Those are the very pegs I installed on my XR. I couldn't get used to the small pegs with dirt bike boots.

Amazing pics Spud. Welcome back. :D
Thank you, gentlemen. :) I can't believe the attitude of many of the Honda owners I meet on the "other" forums. ;) Many will spend $70, or more, for larger foot pegs, but they won't experiment with the $18, Chinese foot pegs. :roll: How complicated is a foot peg? ;)

I'm very happy I trimmed two-inches from the BRP's front fender; I think it looks much better now. ;)

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-02-2011, 01:32 PM

SpudRider

03-02-2011, 01:58 PM

My loaner KLR has similar footpegs and they work great! Pay attention though if you are wearing leather bottomed dress shoes or boots as they are slippery. With rubber soled dress shoes or boots they are awesome.
Thanks for the tip, Doc! ;) Incidentally, these foot pegs seem to be identical to the foot pegs on my Zong. Since I always wear hiking boots with rubber soles, I have never had a problem with these foot pegs. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-02-2011, 02:03 PM

It's just something I notice when commuting to work on it.

MICRider

03-02-2011, 07:50 PM

Those tires are wicked! I love em! They make my Gripsters seem so... Inadequate :D. Lovin the XL!

Cheers,
Stew

FastDoc

03-02-2011, 10:02 PM

I ran Gripsters on my XR250L years ago. I liked them as an 80/20 on/off road tire. They were good on the street, and OK on hard off road surfaces. They also last a long time. Expensive though!

SpudRider

03-02-2011, 10:30 PM

Those tires are wicked! I love em! They make my Gripsters seem so... Inadequate :D. Lovin the XL!

Cheers,
Stew
Thank you, Stew. :) So far, the Maxxis, Maxx Cross, IT rear tire seems to be wearing well on pavement. If I can get 2,000 miles from the Maxxis rear tire, I will probably stick with it; I love the grip it provides on snow, and loose gravel! :)

I have a plan to trim about 12 pounds of highly placed weight off my BRP. ;) I will know if the plan is successful within the next week. :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-02-2011, 11:23 PM

I have a plan to trim about 12 pounds of highly placed weight off my BRP.

Go on a 500 cal/day diet? LOL!

Let me guess. Kickstart only no battery or starter?

Nah.....

Aftermarket exhaust I bet! :P

SpudRider

03-02-2011, 11:41 PM

I have a plan to trim about 12 pounds of highly placed weight off my BRP.
Go on a 500 cal/day diet? LOL!...
That is an excellent suggestion, oh wise physician! ;) However, I wish to make the BRP easier to pick up after I drop it. :lol:
...Let me guess. Kickstart only no battery or starter?

Nah.....

Aftermarket exhaust I bet! :P
No, I believe an aftermarket exhaust will only drop about 4 pounds from the bike. ;) If it doesn't rain this weekend, I might get the job done at that time. ;) Stay tuned for further updates! :)

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-03-2011, 01:45 PM

I'm really curious....

You have been looking at batteries so maybe a lightweight battery and an exhaust change?

Your Saturday looks like the better day. 41 degrees 30% chance of rain....

SpudRider

03-03-2011, 02:25 PM

I'm really curious....

You have been looking at batteries so maybe a lightweight battery and an exhaust change?

Your Saturday looks like the better day. 41 degrees 30% chance of rain....
I will unveil the secret after some experimenting; I first want to see if I am successful. ;) Stay tuned; I will let you know in a few days, Brother Bill. :)

Spud :)

Weldangrind

03-04-2011, 12:22 AM

Nothing stopping us from guessing. :lol:

X2 on Doc's thoughts, and I'll add aluminum bars, if not already equipped.

SpudRider

03-04-2011, 03:14 AM

In stock form, the XR650L is the lightest of the Japanese, 650cc motorcycles. :) In fact, the XR650L only weighs 29 pounds more than the Suzuki, DR-Z400S motorcycle. 8)

In addition, one can easily, and quickly remove a lot of weight from the XR650L, for very little cost. ;) The previous owners removed approximately 2 pounds from my bike by replacing the large tail light. I removed the passenger foot pegs, engine guard, SMOG tumors, and "elephant ears," which functioned as air scoops. I also replaced the heavy, steel gas tank with a much lighter, Clarke fuel tank. I need to weigh all the items I removed, but I estimate my BRP has already lost about 15 pounds. I probably added about 5 pounds back to the motorcycle when I installed the skid plate, and the luggage rack; however, I consider those additions to be necessary items. ;) Therefore, I estimate the current weight lose from my bike is approximately 10 pounds. :)

Installing a stainless steel, exhaust header, and aftermarket muffler would probably allow the bike to lose another 5 pounds. Installing aluminum handlebars, a smaller battery, and an aftermarket headlight would lose additional weight. Ditching the analog speedometer for a digital, trail tech, vapor computer would lighten the bike even more. However, if successful, my planned modification will achieve the single, biggest weight loss possible on the BRP! 8O Stay tuned for further updates. 8)

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-04-2011, 11:25 AM

I am VERY curious.

I know you're in shape so that rules out a diet. 8)

Riding in shorts and sandals and no helmet would save weight but thankfully not your style. :P

Maybe you are going to install a kick starter and ditch the electric start and maybe the battery too?

Special rims?

Area 51 anti-grav unit?

Weldangrind

03-04-2011, 11:32 AM

Helium filled tires?

FastDoc

03-04-2011, 11:37 AM

Helium filled tires?

No gas or oil and limit use to downhill only?

katoranger

03-04-2011, 11:51 AM

I was thinking that he was ditching the engine and adding pedals.

SpudRider

03-04-2011, 12:01 PM

...Area 51 anti-grav unit?
Dagnabit! 8O How did you manage to guess! :lol:

Spud :lol:

FastDoc

03-05-2011, 12:05 PM

Its a beautiful Saturday I hope you are working on the BRP and taking photographs and preparing your report!

SpudRider

03-05-2011, 10:53 PM

Its a beautiful Saturday I hope you are working on the BRP and taking photographs and preparing your report!
You know me too well, Brother Bill! ;)

Friday I received delivery of a new, Shorai LFX09A2 battery. :) Today I relocated the Shorai battery above the BRP's airbox, and ditched the â€œbattery suitcase,â€ shedding 9 pounds of unsightly, highly-placed weight! Cost of the Shorai battery: $99.95. Losing the â€œbattery tumor:â€ priceless. :D

The Shorai battery only weights 1.2 pounds, so I did not need to damage the structural integrity of either the battery box, or the bike's saddle. I also did not need to drill any new air holes. ;) After unplugging, and rerouting the wires, I only needed to extend the turn signals and the tail light. :)

I will soon post more photographs. However, here are a few photographs I took today as I untangled, and rerouted the bike's wiring.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/ShoraiBatteryRelocation006.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/ShoraiBatteryRelocation008.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/ShoraiBatteryRelocation010.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/ShoraiBatteryRelocation024.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/ShoraiBatteryRelocation039.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/ShoraiBatteryRelocation041.jpg

Finishing the job at sunset, I went for a quick ride in the twilight's last gleaming. :D Now I need a left side cover from an XR600R. ;)

Spud :)

mizke

03-06-2011, 12:01 AM

SpudRider

03-06-2011, 12:20 AM

nicely customized there spud, do you have a picture of the completed air box/new battery tray ? maybe you said you post it later i cant remember right now..

i did read that you had mentioned a aftermarket exhaust, any idea's on which brand ?
Thank you, Mike. :) The sun was setting just as I was finishing this project; therefore, I'll post more photographs later. ;) I'm considering the FMF muffers, and the DG, O-Series mufflers; however, I like the quiet report of the stock muffler. ;)

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-06-2011, 02:50 PM

Hey I sorta guessed that!

Another beautiful day I bet you are riding right now Spud!

Good work. I see why you call that box a 'battery suitcase'!

SpudRider

03-06-2011, 02:56 PM

Hey I sorta guessed that!

Another beautiful day I bet you are riding right now Spud!

Good work. I see why you call that box a 'battery suitcase'!
Indeed, your guess was almost perfect, Brother Bill. ;) It's currently raining here in Idaho, with temperatures slightly above freezing. Please harvest a few bananas and pineapples if you go riding today, Doc. :lol:

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-08-2011, 10:35 PM

Here are some more photographs of my completed battery relocation. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/starterrelayposition004.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/starterrelayposition009.jpg

Here's the obligatory, 6 o'clock view showing the missing battery box. :D

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/XR650Lbatteryboxgone030.jpg

The Shorai battery cranks the engine very well, and I love having the bike 9 pounds lighter! :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-10-2011, 10:59 PM

The high temperature surpassed 50 degrees Fahrenheit today, so I went for a ride, and took some photographs. :D Here is the condition of my Maxxis, Maxx Cross, IT rear tire after riding 300 miles on pavement.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide014.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide023.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide041.jpg

I have discovered the Maxx Cross, IT rear tire grips well in the mud. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide059.jpg

The Maxxis IT tire also cleans itself very well. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide078.jpg

My CST, Surge I, front tire grips well in all conditions, and is showing very little wear after 600 miles on pavement. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/CST%20Surge%20I%20Front%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide016.jpg

After riding 100 miles today, I was very happy to clean a few bugs off my helmet visor! You might fool men, but you canâ€™t fool the bugs; spring is just around the corner! :D

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide034.jpg

Iâ€™m also pleased to report my Shorai battery cranks the XR650L engine hard, and starts the bike easily. I am very pleased with the results from my Shorai battery relocation. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Maxxis%20Maxx%20Cross%20IT%20Rear%20Tire/ShoraiTestRide107.jpg

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-11-2011, 12:01 AM

Spud, for all the beautiful pictures we members share here I don't think anyone has as beautiful a riding area as you do. You are blessed :D .

The Maxxis looks like a good tire, good grip on and off road, and it seems to be holding up well. I bet that motor can tear a tire to bits in no time 8O . You have good restraint! God knows I can't stay out of the throttle on the 650's. I already plan to be buying Rand new tires... :P

SpudRider

03-11-2011, 12:13 AM

Spud, for all the beautiful pictures we members share here I don't think anyone has as beautiful a riding area as you do. You are blessed :D ...
Thank you, Doc. :) Indeed, I consider myself blessed. ;)
...The Maxxis looks like a good tire, good grip on and off road, and it seems to be holding up well. I bet that motor can tear a tire to bits in no time 8O . You have good restraint! God knows I can't stay out of the throttle on the 650's. I already plan to be buying Rand new tires... :P
Indeed, the temptation is great. :lol: I had the BRP up to 85 mph several times today, Doc. ;) I hope the Maxxis, IT rear tire continues to wear well; I enjoy the traction it offers off road. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 12:15 AM

I'm pleased to report my Shorai battery is working great; it cranks the engine hard, and my XR650L starts easily. :) Several days ago I installed an XR600R, left side cover.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/Sidecoverrun013.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/Sidecoverrun027.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Shorai%20Battery%20Relocation/Sidecoverrun018.jpg

I now consider my Shorai battery relocation to be complete. :D

Spud :)

Weldangrind

03-18-2011, 12:36 AM

It looks great Spud. Less "L" and more "R" all the time.

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 01:01 AM

It looks great Spud. Less "L" and more "R" all the time.
Thank you, WaG. :D The "pig" keeps getting lighter, and easier to handle. ;) I have removed a lot of weight from this bike, and I can remove a bit more. :) I need to actually weigh the items I removed. ;) However, here are the weight loss estimates for my BRP.

Removed SMOG tumors: 2 pounds, 4 ounces
Removed engine guard: 2 pounds, 8 ounces
Removed passenger pegs: 1 pound, 8 ounces
Removed stock tail light: 2 pounds
Removed steel fuel tank and â€œelephant ears:â€ 5 pounds
Relocated Shorai battery: 9 pounds

Added luggage rack, and skid plate.

Total weight loss: approximately 18 pounds

I am going to install an FMF, Hi-Flo, exhaust header, which might shed an additional pound. I am also considering installing an FMF, PowerCore 4 muffler, which would drop another 2 pounds from the bike. ;)

Spud :)

Weldangrind

03-18-2011, 01:07 AM

Are you going to choose the FMF with the Power Bomb?

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 01:16 AM

Are you going to choose the FMF with the Power Bomb?
No, I already purchased the "Hi-Flo," exhaust header. ;) I primarily bought the stainless steel, exhaust header for looks, and easier maintenance. I hate trying to clean mud that is baked onto the exhaust header. :evil: The mud hoses right off the stainless steel header, and it looks much better, in general. :) Therefore, I wasn't concerned about any increased performance I might get from the "Power Bomb" header, which is much more expensive. ;)

I haven't decided to purchase the FMF muffler; I'm still trying to make up my mind about it. ;) I really enjoy the low maintenance, and quiet operation of the stock muffler. :) However, some mud also bakes onto the stock muffler, and it is ugly. :lol: I would get improved performance, easier maintenance, and better looks from the FMF muffler. I would also shed another 2 pounds from the "pig" by installing the FMF, PowerCore 4 muffler. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 06:27 AM

I would be remiss if I did not mention the Achilles Heel of the XR650L is its countershaft. :(

I frequently examine the countershaft splines on my XR650L. However, I admit, my eyes arenâ€™t as good as they used to be. Advancing into middle age, Iâ€™ve acquired presbyopia. ;) The last time I inspected the countershaft splines, they appeared quite good to my unaided eyes. Therefore, after I greased the countershaft splines, I took a few photographs, and went riding. :roll:

However, I had noticed a hint of rust on both the countershaft, and the sprocket. Rapidly approaching 10,000 miles on my bikeâ€™s odometer, my nagging conscience prompted me to examine the photographs I had taken. Closely examining the macro photos, I thought I detected some countershaft spline wear. :?

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/Winterridemarch13023.jpg

Therefore, I went outside, removed some grease, and examined the countershaft with a magnifying glass. Indeed, I discovered the countershaft splines were beginning to wear. 8O

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/countershaftsplines007.jpg

Closely examining the Parts Unlimited sprocket I had just removed, I believe I also detected some wear on the trailing edges of the inside teeth. :roll:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/Winterridemarch13019.jpg

I am determined to stop this wear! I also admire the great philosopher, Deputy Barney Fife. Therefore, I have decided to â€œnip it in the bud!â€ :twisted:

XR650R, countershaft sprockets have 60 percent more contact area with the countershaft than XR650L, countershaft sprockets. I had planned to wait until my current countershaft sprocket needed replacement before switching to XR650R, countershaft sprockets. However, heeding the sage advice of Deputy Barney Fife, I now decided to act immediately! 8)

I had shortened my drive chain to 108 links with my current 13T/45T sprocket combination. Therefore, I needed to acquire a 13T, XR650R, countershaft sprocket as quickly as possible. I did some research, and discovered I could obtain a 13T, PBI sprocket in 24 hours; I took the plunge. ;) The photograph below confirms the XR650R countershaft sprocket has much more contact area with the countershaft than the XR650L countershaft sprocket. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/XR650RSprocketfromPBI007.jpg

Mounted backwards, the sprocket teeth of the XR650R sprocket are 2.5 mm farther from the engine. Based upon the experience of others, I donâ€™t think this will present a problem. In any event, I am perfectly willing to accept greater sprocket wear, and/or greater drive chain wear, rather than any additional wear on the countershaft splines! Remember Deputy Fife!

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/XR650RSprocketfromPBI004.jpg

I needed to tap lightly on the PBI sprocket with a hammer to allow me to install the sprocket retainer. Heeding a prior admonition regarding PBI sprockets, I examined the alignment of the sprocket retainer. The alignment isnâ€™t perfect, but it should be robust enough. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/XR650RSprocketfromPBI010.jpg

I went for a ride, and everything felt good. I will routinely inspect the drive chain, and both sprockets for unusual wear. More importantly, I am going to routinely inspect the countershaft splines under magnification to ensure I have stopped the wear, and â€œnipped it in the bud.â€ ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/XR650RSprocketfromPBI019.jpg

Spud :)

katoranger

03-18-2011, 08:12 AM

I wonder why Honda decided to use the thicker sprocket on the R and not the L from the factory.

Weldangrind

03-18-2011, 10:09 AM

Thanks for that report Spud. It would appear that the ultimate solution would be to mill 0.10" from the new sprocket to perfect the fit. Do I understand that correctly?

FastDoc

03-18-2011, 12:08 PM

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 02:57 PM

I wonder why Honda decided to use the thicker sprocket on the R and not the L from the factory.
Honda "screwed up" when they designed the XR650L countershaft; there is no other logical explanation. ;) The XR650R motorcycle is a later design, and I think Honda admitted the error when they redesigned the larger XR650R countershaft. However, Honda never bothered to fix the problem on the XR650L. :roll:

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 03:08 PM

Thanks for that report Spud. It would appear that the ultimate solution would be to mill 0.10" from the new sprocket to perfect the fit. Do I understand that correctly?
Yes, as usual, you are correct Brother Derryk. ;)

Honda really should have redesigned the weak, XR650L countershaft. However, the cheapest solution for Honda would be to redesign the XR650L countershaft sprocket as you suggested. ;)

Fortunately, several XR650L owners have experimented with the XR650R countershaft sprocket, and discovered no unusual wear on the drive train. :) Apparently, enough free play exists in the drive train for one to safely employ an unmodified, XR650R countershaft sprocket. I would strongly encourage all XR650L owners to remove the XR650L countershaft sprocket, and substitute the beefier, XR650R countershaft sprocket. ;)

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 03:13 PM

It looks great Spud. Less "L" and more "R" all the time.

Agreed. The BRP is much less 'Big' since you got a hold of it. It looks great :D . More like an immense Dirt Bike With Lights all the time :P . I'm pleased to see the persice documentation of the weight reduction! I like the flat side panel. I was surprised to see how much the passenger foot pegs weighed. 8O

In Andy's shop I picked up a pair of aluminum Moose bars last night. They were very light! :idea:
Thank you, Doc. :) In its current configuration, my "pig" probably weighs slightly more than a stock, Suzuki DR-Z400S. ;) If I removed the luggage rack, the comparative weights would be even closer. :)

However, I'm afraid my weight loss estimates are only approximations, and not very precise. ;) Upon further reflection, I'm sure I overestimated the weight of the passenger foot pegs. :oops:

Spud :)

FastDoc

03-18-2011, 03:15 PM

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 03:20 PM

I wonder why Honda decided to use the thicker sprocket on the R and not the L from the factory.

It is odd why they would use a skinny CS sprocket on the L version like that. Also it seems to be a known failure point of a motorcycle that has been in production since Elizabeth Taylor was hot. They should have figured that out a long time ago. Good call/save Brother Spud!
Indeed! ;) I'm sure Honda discerned the problem a long time ago; they just don't want to admit it, and/or deal with the financial repercussions. :roll: Fortunately, XR650R countershaft sprockets are cheap, and plentiful. :)

Spud :)

SpudRider

03-18-2011, 06:35 PM

Thanks for that report Spud. It would appear that the ultimate solution would be to mill 0.10" from the new sprocket to perfect the fit. Do I understand that correctly?
I'm sorry; my previous answer was not completely accurate. :roll: I don't think much benefit would be achieved by milling the XR650R sprocket; it works best in its current configuration. ;) To work properly on the XR650L, the XR650R sprocket is mounted backwards. Since the XR650L sprocket has a raised, 2.5 mm "mesa" on the outside surface, the XR650L sprocket is moved 2.5 mm closer to the engine case when the retaining clip is attached.

You could mill 2.5 mm off the "front" of the XR650R sprocket, then modify another retraining clip to push the XR650R sprocket closer to the engine case. However, this milling would reduce the contact area with the countershaft splines, defeating some of the advantage offered by the XR650R sprocket. Hopefully, my explanation is elucidated by the photographs below. :lol:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/XR650RSprocketfromPBI004.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/XR650L%20Countershaft%20and%20XR650R%20Sprockets/XR650RSprocketfromPBI010.jpg

Spud :)