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goatja
03-25-2011, 04:26 AM
Myself and a buddy of mine just purchased two Wildfire wfg200ldb dualsports from Wildfire Motors in Stubenville OH.I am curious if anyone on here would know what parts will fit it? Like sprokets exhaust.. and things . Mostly sprockets front and rear I am looking to play with the gear ratio. It sounds like it is going to blow up at 55MPH i would like to cruise 55-60 comfortably yet keep my ratio low as possible for the woods. The way it is geared now is nice off road, but it is just too darn slow for the road.I havent counted my front or rear sprocket teeth yet, but i am just wanting to know what sprockets will fit.... And also I would like to find a brighter headlight bulb.

katoranger
03-25-2011, 09:40 AM
If you look in the sticky threads you will find alot of information on parts/sprockets etc.

The wildfires are pretty standard chinabike. To cruise at 55-60 you will need a 17/45 sprocket combo or something close. If you are changing sprockets go ahead and get a new quality chain.

Read the setup process. You will want to perform some of the upgrades/preventative maintenance before riding.

goatja
03-25-2011, 06:51 PM
So will this bike take the same sprockets as spuds write ups?

FastDoc
03-25-2011, 07:01 PM
No. You have a Lifanoid/Hondoid. Spud has a Zong which is a Yamaha clone. Different animals.

Here is sprocket info for you:

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=2

The best all around rear sprocket for you, IIRC is a 45. I don't recall the front sprocket, but it is at least one tooth larger than standard. This will allow you to go faster than 45 MPH at redline which is the way they are geared stock.

goatja
03-25-2011, 07:08 PM
This sounds good i will have to go counting some teeth... Will the bulb spud found for a upgrade headlight bulb work?

FastDoc
03-25-2011, 07:40 PM
I believe so. The stock light was pretty marginal and could use improvement.

goatja
03-25-2011, 07:41 PM
Well thank you for your help....I will be looking for parts and ordering them tomorrow...

katoranger
03-25-2011, 08:22 PM
I found that the 17/45 combo worked the best for all around riding. It still allowed light offroad with tolerable crusing rpms.

goatja
03-25-2011, 09:09 PM
thanks you that sounds just what i am looking for just want to be able to do the speed limit right now it isnt possibe comfortably

SpudRider
03-25-2011, 09:54 PM
This sounds good i will have to go counting some teeth... Will the bulb spud found for a upgrade headlight bulb work?
FastDoc and Katoranger are correct about the sprockets; get the sprockets they recommend. :) Are you asking about the H4 headlight bulbs? If so, you might have to modify your headlight assembly to accept the H4 bulbs. ;) If your bike employs BA20D headlight bulbs, you can definitely use the ones I recommend in the "Zong Sticky." :)

Spud :)

FastDoc
03-25-2011, 11:39 PM
I found that the 17/45 combo worked the best for all around riding. It still allowed light offroad with tolerable crusing rpms.

Yup. That's it. :D

It will allow a semi relaxed 55-60 MPH top cruise. 8)

FastDoc
03-25-2011, 11:40 PM
IIRC the Lifanoids do use a BA20D headlight bulb so the Zong sticky H4 mod should work. I don't know about the tempurature on the plastic though.

FastDoc
03-25-2011, 11:41 PM
You will have to remove 6 links from your chain, if it is like the rest of ours were.

goatja
03-26-2011, 01:26 AM
Well I need to tear apart my headlight too then to investigate... Thanks guys for all of your guidance... My buddy was really frustrated with his bike because the headlight being sorry and the gearing too low for highway.... hopefully this will make him feel better about his purchase. i know theese are the things I have been looking for.

FastDoc
03-26-2011, 11:39 AM
Please don't ever take this 200cc Chinabike on the highway. Because of a crash that could have been fatal (hit from behind by a faster car) I don't recommend EVER taking your bike on a road with a faster than a 50-55 MPH posted speed limit.

It is what it is. a fun inexpensive trail bike and commuter on surface streets. NEVER take it on the highway.

katoranger
03-26-2011, 12:51 PM
These bikes were never intended to run at the speeds that we push them to in North America.

The Chinese use them as tractors and low speed mules.

Thorgram
03-26-2011, 12:52 PM
Please don't ever take this 200cc Chinabike on the highway. Because of a crash that could have been fatal (hit from behind by a faster car) I don't recommend EVER taking your bike on a road with a faster than a 50-55 MPH posted speed limit.



I agree, aside from everyone roaring past, I found that the few times I've had mine going that fast, it develops a pretty bad wobble.

SpudRider
03-26-2011, 02:40 PM
Please don't ever take this 200cc Chinabike on the highway. Because of a crash that could have been fatal (hit from behind by a faster car) I don't recommend EVER taking your bike on a road with a faster than a 50-55 MPH posted speed limit.

It is what it is. a fun inexpensive trail bike and commuter on surface streets. NEVER take it on the highway.
X10! 8O These bikes are great little motorcycles, but they were not designed to travel on limited access highways. ;) The 200cc engines don't have enough power to even keep up with the traffic flow, let alone have reserve power left to escape from danger. :roll: Please listen to the wise physician; he has the scars to prove his statements are true. :(

Spud :)

RageHardIntoTheBendies
03-26-2011, 03:48 PM
for what it's worth, when I upgraded my tires I added dynabeads and my bike is very stable at 110kmh as long as I stay away from the dity air behind big vehicles.

Akonababe
03-26-2011, 05:14 PM
We just bought 2 wildire 200cc dual sports bikes ourselves. I was wondering what are the sproket sizes that come with the bike. We are trying to plan ahead to get them ready for riding when they arrive. We had 2 vivas when we lived in hawaii and enjoyed them very much.

katoranger
03-26-2011, 05:29 PM
Welcome back. I think the wildfires come geared low. Probably 17/56.

Akonababe
03-26-2011, 08:05 PM
Thanks about the sprockets, We are glad to be back and looking forward to going in the hills here in SE Arizona

goatja
03-28-2011, 11:57 PM
Thanks for the advice... I definitely see what you say about high speeds. The wind fels like it is going to throw you off the road... No sprockets yet I noticed a gas leak on my tank so I took it off to weld it... I will update when I count sprocket teeth and order one or two....

goatja
04-13-2011, 07:14 PM
well i found i got 15 front and 39 rear any ideas?

katoranger
04-14-2011, 08:30 AM
Put a 17 on the front. Are you sure about the rear sprocket? Never heard of any coming stock with a 39 rear.

Akonababe
04-14-2011, 11:55 AM
Ours came with 46 rear sprocket and 15 front sprocket, change the 15 to a 17 and the bike is geared just right.

katoranger
04-14-2011, 01:17 PM
17/46 is about optimum for most riding.

goatja
04-15-2011, 12:00 AM
Well thats what i get for trusting somone else to count the sprockets.... I was installing my gas tank and my buddy was counting... It seemed a little odd myself... and if it was 15/39 I thought it allready should be geared fast enough....

2LZ
04-15-2011, 12:03 AM
Well thats what i get for trusting somone else to count the sprockets.... I was installing my gas tank and my buddy was counting... It seemed a little odd myself... and if it was 15/39 I thought it allready should be geared fast enough....
Take a close look wioth a flashlight. Even my generic X-Moto hondanoid has the tooth count stamped into the side of the sprocket. May be worth a good look......

goatja
04-15-2011, 12:45 AM
I am sure you guys are right I will count the teeth myself and look for the number myself.. where did you guys get your 17t sprocket

goatja
04-16-2011, 05:15 PM
My sprockets are definitely are 15/46 does any one have any idea where i can find a 17 tooth front sprocket.... i cant seem to find one... i need two

JTCAndrew
04-16-2011, 07:17 PM
Do you the equivilant? Check out http://www.jetsrus.com Thats where I got my 16th for my "q"

goatja
04-16-2011, 07:54 PM
It is kind of confusing which one would i need on here the one for the honda xl 125 or what?

goatja
04-16-2011, 08:03 PM
according to the chart on page on of this thread there are thee to four sprockets that fit all of these models....

katoranger
04-16-2011, 09:44 PM
You can check with Bruce at. Best to call him on the phone.

http://www.endlessjourneycycles.net/

This thread may help.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1393

I checked hoopers site and he only list up to a 16T.

goatja
04-16-2011, 09:50 PM
Is the ones on the jetsrus link not able to fit?

katoranger
04-17-2011, 08:46 AM
I think they will fit, but I didn't see a 17t sprocket on there.

xl125 xl185 work

Akonababe
04-17-2011, 01:49 PM
I don't know where to get the 17 sprockets we had them from our old bikes we had in hawaii a few years ago. I would say if anyone knows it would be bruce.

katoranger
04-17-2011, 08:14 PM
I would call Bruce.

goatja
04-18-2011, 09:35 AM
I just tried to call bruce... Not open on mondays. I guess i will try tomorrow.

goatja
04-22-2011, 01:09 AM
I contacted bruce today and we could not locate a 17 tooth so we went with a 16/43 and it should be in the mail... I will update when i get it...

Akonababe
04-24-2011, 02:42 PM
That should work really good for you.

goatja
05-04-2011, 05:50 AM
I have rode it all weekend i can get to about 50 mph comfortably now.. I finally getting to enjoy my investment... I have two questions.... What do i need to do to get about 5-10 mph out of it i have a 1/43 combo now... maybe a 16/40 or is that too high??

And my speedometer Quit working I am going to tear it apart either tonight or tomorrow.... I am guessing it is a cable. Is there a quality speedometer cable out there I could just order that isnt rediculously expensive....

FastDoc
05-04-2011, 12:15 PM
Look at the microfiche on Bike Bandit for a Suzuki DR200SE cable. I bet it's the same.

Internal failures on China speedos are common. Common upgrades include NON wireless bicycle speedometers and Trail Tech speedometer units.

Grandelosmanos
05-04-2011, 01:08 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110676919447
These are pretty cool speedos, a definate upgrade

goatja
05-06-2011, 11:47 PM
I finally checked on my speedometer and the cable is junk... Is the emab speedo upgrade easy to bolt on or does it require some custom fitting and wiring.

Also i am no thaving luck matching it to a suzuki 200se do you guys have any other ideas where i can get a speedometer cable...

goatja
05-11-2011, 01:28 AM
I got a speedo cable under warentee. I am wondering ... I just changed oil and my only filter is a metal screen is there an actual filter i can buy and put in that hole??

Also is there any way I can reduce the amount of handlebar vibration? I have arm pump after about 25 miles. I am thinking big bars and maybe soft grips, but i have never changed thethrottle side grip on a motorcycle before. All of my previous experence has been with my raptor 700...

Weldangrind
05-11-2011, 10:18 AM
I doubt that there is a cartridge filter that will fit your engine, but you can invest in a magnetic drain plug for extra insurance.

I've read on this forum that aluminum bars will reduce vibration. replacing grips on the throttle tube is no big deal; just use a blow gun on a compressor to ease removal and installation. Insert the tip of the blow gun under the edge of the grip and slide the grip off as air is blown underneath.

goatja
05-12-2011, 05:59 AM
Thank you. I will have to shop for some big bars and clamps. I am now learning that I should have checked spokes..... My front tire seemed to instantly go down. I all most put the bike down, but anaged to get off the road. I inially went through and tightened all of my spokes some because they all were not very tight to me and my wheel is not o true, but not too bad now. I should hav read some articles on the internet. I now know I had no need in tightening them all and will be tweaking the rim properly tonight.