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dmmcd
06-16-2011, 08:00 AM
My brother's XF has a rough idle. We adjusted the valves last night and after some playing discovered that he has a leaky carb boot between the air filter and the carb. I didn't take it all apart to see where it is leaking, or if it is a big crack, but I did try to re-seal the band clamp on the carb. Is it possible to get new boots or should we just take it apart and glob it up with RTV?

I tried looking on the Qlink store site, but they don't have parts breakdown, and I didn't see any carb boots.

Weldangrind
06-16-2011, 10:31 AM
I'd certainly try black RTV. Just get the repair area as clean as possible, and the RTV should stick just fine.

FastDoc
06-16-2011, 11:44 AM
That will work but is not pretty if that matters. Another member had a similar problem but I don't remember who. I recall the Suzuki unit will NOT fit and one shouyld be ordered from Q. You will have to call as it's not on the website. IIRC. :wink:

david3921
06-16-2011, 08:11 PM
That was me, Doc. But it was the intake between the carb and the head; a lot more critical. I got it from Qlink shipped for $45. I bought another type from JCWhitney for $15 that I can convert if I need another one.

Take the failed intake to an auto supply and see if you can get a gas filler neck hose of the same inside diameter. Others are using these for intake carb boots and are working well. All you are looking for is a path for the clean air to get to the carb. It's one of the supports for the carb so the stronger the better. Radiator hose might work well also.

2LZ
06-17-2011, 06:03 PM
A lot of good ideas here...but what Im curious about is unless it's sucked in some dirt or something, why would a cracked boot between the air box and carb cause a rough idle? It's not a sealed vacuum area.
I suspect this may not be the end of the search.....

Weldangrind
06-17-2011, 11:26 PM
Could it be that it's just way too lean because of the crack? I'd expect that the carb is jetted to suit a restrictive airbox, and then a sudden inrush of air would alter the mixture.

Only guessing.

dmmcd
06-20-2011, 10:18 AM
Could it be that it's just way too lean because of the crack? I'd expect that the carb is jetted to suit a restrictive airbox, and then a sudden inrush of air would alter the mixture.

Only guessing.

That's my guess too, but if I spray carb cleaner around the boot, the idle picks up. If I press with my hands around the boot, the idle picks up and smooths out. I think it is adjusted for drawing through the air filter, and if it gets unrestricted air coming in, it leans out the mixture.

Weldangrind
06-20-2011, 10:34 AM
Another thought I had is to use self-vulcanizing rubber tape. If you can take the boot off and wrap around it, the rubber tape should do a nice job of sealing the crack.

SpudRider
06-20-2011, 10:57 AM
Could it be that it's just way too lean because of the crack? I'd expect that the carb is jetted to suit a restrictive airbox, and then a sudden inrush of air would alter the mixture.

Only guessing.

That's my guess too, but if I spray carb cleaner around the boot, the idle picks up. If I press with my hands around the boot, the idle picks up and smooths out. I think it is adjusted for drawing through the air filter, and if it gets unrestricted air coming in, it leans out the mixture.
I agree with both of you. ;) Constant velocity (CV) carburetors are sensitive to changes in the airbox. If the boot from the air box is cracked, the air box is altered, or one installs a pod air filter, it is very likely the operation of a CV carburetor will be affected. ;)

Spud :)

FastDoc
06-20-2011, 01:00 PM
Another thought I had is to use self-vulcanizing rubber tape. If you can take the boot off and wrap around it, the rubber tape should do a nice job of sealing the crack.

That wouldn't look bad either. I've seen that type of tape for sale at the local hardware store.

dmmcd
06-20-2011, 04:56 PM
Another thought I had is to use self-vulcanizing rubber tape. If you can take the boot off and wrap around it, the rubber tape should do a nice job of sealing the crack.

I don't think I've seen that before, I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Thanks.

Weldangrind
06-21-2011, 01:17 AM
It's unique, because it doesn't stick to anything but itself.