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SpudRider 02-18-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 179826)
Isn't it about time for an oil thread? :grr:

Motor oil? That's easy. :)

Previously, I exclusively used Easter Timber Rattlesnake Oil, harvested only from serpents employed during religious snake-handling ceremonies in Appalachia. When harvested from the free range, crotalus horridus produces unsurpassed base oil stocks. These excellent base stocks are further, miraculously enhanced during the religious ceremonies. :)

http://www.benreed.net/wp-content/up...e-handling.jpg

Don't use just any snake oil! :wtf: Use Eastern Timber Rattlesnake Oil! :tup:

Unfortunately, the cost of collecting, handling, and harvesting these serpents has became prohibitive, so I switched to 15W/40 motor oil. :wtf: The commercial, diesel motor oil is doing an excellent job for me, so I intend to keep using it. :)

:lol:

Xtyling 02-18-2015 08:56 PM

Hi All.. I've been dreaming about the RX3 for months now and was so glad I came across this forum/thread with a simple Google search. I am physician and live in the Philippines and the RX3 has been released here December 2014. There was an earlier post that detailed the specs for the Philippine version but the final release did not come with the USB & 12V outlet. Anyway, I got extremely excited about the bike and when CSC posted that they would be getting their bike late January 2015 and planned a Baja trip I found myself in their Azusa Office in December and gave my deposit without even getting to test ride the bike. But I got to sit on it and felt comfortable enough to throw my money at Joe & Steve anyway.

I am a bit by bummed about the shipping delays because I do not feel I will be able to join the CSC Baja trip anymore. Which was a major factor in my decision to purchase the RX3 in the USA vs. the Philippines. My wife would not permit me to buy and ride the RX3 on the epic adventure. The fact that it would be my first adventure trip, it is reassuring that I would be going with the CSC crew. I am not a skilled mechanic (only can do change oil).

I think my $500 deposit will now go towards buying accessories and consumables (oil filters) for the RX3 that I will now purchase here in the Philippines. I'm so sad because the CSC version comes standard with 17 rear wheel, EFI, 300W alternator, upgraded side panels, awesome service and 2 year parts warranty.

I just have one question regarding optional CSC center stand. I saw some pictures of the center stand while the bike was rolling and it looked like it was hanging quite low. Wouldn't this be a problem when rididing on adventurous roads?

Last but not least, thank you to all the contributors here.. I enjoyed reading all 2000 posts!

Wolftrax 02-18-2015 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 179829)
Motor oil? That's easy. :)

Previously, I exclusively used Easter Timber Rattlesnake Oil, harvested only from serpents employed during religious snake-handling ceremonies in Appalachia. When harvested from the free range, crotalus horridus produces unsurpassed base oil stocks. These excellent base stocks are further, miraculously enhanced during the religious ceremonies. :)

http://www.benreed.net/wp-content/up...e-handling.jpg

Don't use just any snake oil! :wtf: Use Eastern Timber Rattlesnake Oil! :tup:

Unfortunately, the cost of collecting, handling, and harvesting these serpents has became prohibitive, so I switched to 15W/40 motor oil. :wtf: The commercial, diesel motor oil is doing an excellent job for me, so I intend to keep using it. :)

:lol:

Touché:lmao:

SpudRider 02-18-2015 09:05 PM

Xtyling,

Welcome; we are glad you joined us. :)

Are you referring to this photograph?

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...SC0295-650.jpg

If so, this is not a photograph of the CSC center stand. This is a photograph of a temporary center stand which is only used on the Zongshen assembly line. The CSC center stand is different, and I don't remember seeing a photograph of it in the retracted position. However, I would enjoy seeing such a photograph, since I am also interested in the ground clearance of the retracted, CSC center stand. :)

Xtyling 02-18-2015 09:16 PM

Yes. That is the picture I was referring to. I am glad to know that is not the CSC center stand.

SpudRider 02-18-2015 09:43 PM

This video is called Shanghai Timelapse. I hope our RX3 motorcycles move this quickly through both ports. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSNtP3bqIl0

SpudRider 02-18-2015 10:29 PM

The Shanghai Maglev Train connects the city to Pudong International Airport. It is the fastest train in the world with a top operating speed of 267 mph ( 431 kph).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-mVT-ORww

G19Tony 02-19-2015 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 179841)
The Shanghai Maglev Train connects the city to Pudong International Airport. It is the fastest train in the world with a top operating speed of 267 mph ( 431 kph).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-mVT-ORww

I rode the Maglev from Shanghai to Pudong and back, just to do it, on a trip there a few years ago. It was pretty cool. :tup:

It's a shame that we will never be able to make something like that happen here.

G19Tony 02-19-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 179823)
The Zongshen RX3 is more of an adventure bike than a dirt bike. Therefore, I think a pair of Shinko 244 tires is a good compromise for most conditions. :) The size 3.00-18 tire is very good for the 18-inch front wheel. Here is a photograph of the size 3.00-18, Shinko 244 mounted on the front wheel of my Zongshen ZS200GY-2.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...esTires043.jpg

A good choice for the rear time is the Shinko 244 tire in size 5.10-17.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...edWBoCLoLw_wcB

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6.../244Shinko.jpg


These tires perform pretty well in all conditions, except heavy mud. ;)

Those Shinkos look like good, all around tires. For the type of riding I want to do, they will find a home on my RX-3. :tup: They look like the Kendas I put on my KLR250. :)

roots 02-19-2015 12:41 AM

Happy Chinese New Year
 
Happy Chinese New Year, everyone!:clap:

May we all have an awesome year on our new RX-3's

Weldangrind 02-19-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 179806)
100/90 x 18 is a very odd size for front tire on a DS. I prefer running a knob on the front. The only suitable tires I can find are all rear tires and generally a bit larger. I like the MT21, TKC, Michelin T63 for the front. What the consensus, run a rear up front or bite the bullet and relace with a 21" rim?


I bought a rear tire for the front wheel on my TW. That said, the stock TW tire is wider than most motocross rear tires. Several TW owners have done the same thing.

Weldangrind 02-19-2015 01:16 AM

Welcome, Xtyling! I hope you enjoy your new bike.

thillskier 02-19-2015 06:33 AM

Good compromise tread, and excellent value as well.
 
Thanks guys, I'm liking the 244 SHinko a LOT for the type riding I plan on doing after I get the bike home. I also like this tread as well for nore adv travel (if more on road)Shinko 700 series for 3 bucks more, or the
705 but its almost 50% (30.00) more! It would have to wear very well to be a good value, and its not an exact match size wise either at 150/70/17 for the rear tire. I doubt it would work in mud, very well, if AT ALL:)! hehe Down goes Tommy (again and again I'm afraid in muddy conditions)! would be the cry:)! hehe-NOT funny after the 2 or 3rd time however!
How many miles are you getting on your TMEC rear and front as well, I guess. I might just spoon a couple these on before leaving Cali, and ship the stock ones back to sell or for use later on... The cost is well worth it, .especially if I know their life and won't be concerned about some fun off pavement riding;)..
By the way, I learned ultralighting to ship whatever isn't needed (essentials on bike, only), by mail or UPS etc, so I can take extra tools to assemble bike at CSC, install tires, add farkles and accessories I need for the ride back (GPS mount and wiring in plugs for accessories, as well as other "stuff").

Xtyling 02-19-2015 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 179857)
Welcome, Xtyling! I hope you enjoy your new bike.

Thank you Weldangrind. I haven't bought the RX3 here in the Philippines yet because the distributor and dealers have a problem with registering the bikes they are selling. Corrupted Government Bureaucracy and greedy dealers have motorcycle buyers between a rock and a hard place. Too many "motorcycle registration check points" harassing motorcycle owners who have legally purchased motorcycles but are waiting months (some over a year) just to get their registration documents and license plates.

I'm hoping the registration mess here gets cleaned up soon so I can confidently purchase the RX3 soon.

SpudRider 02-19-2015 07:58 AM

Another nice tire for the front, 18-inch wheel is the Michelin T63 in size 110/80-18. ;)

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...FVFcfgodg2gAdA

I have mounted this tire on the rear wheel of my Honda XR650L. It does a pretty good job, and is reasonably priced. :)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...toMalad030.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...toMalad033.jpg

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...toMalad099.jpg

The Michelin T63 will probably clear mud from the tread better than the Shinko 244. :) One could mount the size 110/80-18 tire on the front wheel, and the size 130/80-17 on the rear wheel.

http://hightechcoonass.smugmug.com/M...29_bimFz-L.jpg

Huck369 02-19-2015 10:09 AM

I have the Shinko 705's on my NC700X, and the Shinko 244 on my Yamaha XT250 ...will probably run the 244's on my Cyclone when it's due tires.....depending on how the stock tires does....

FTEY 02-19-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by classix_man (Post 177453)
Hello to Everyone,

I am Man and I've been reading all of the threads in this forum weeks ago to get all related info about this bike. Actually, I'm from Malaysia and previously tried to search every information related to RX3. It is good to get every info from this forum and also others.

For your information, this bike was launched at 25th December 2014 at one of the biggest bike gathering in Malaysia. After I have been inform about this bike, I went to the sole distributor and paid just MYR300 (84.22 USD) for the deposit. The promotion price is actually MYR12,800 (3.593.59 USD) exclude insurance and others. Total will be MYR13,400 (3,762.04). So, it is a very nice price for a very nice bike!!

However, I am still waiting for sample bike to do a test ride. Should be in near time since the company still use the bike for promotion at other state as well.

Just wondering, I've been informed that this bike (KTN RS 250 in Malaysia) will get a carburetor version instead of FI system. I tried to get as many info as i could regarding the differences between these two system but in the end, I am kind of confusing. Of course there will be pro's and con's for both system, but which one is actually better in terms of maintenance and fuel consumption?

Can't wait to ride the bike!!:yay:

Hi... Im new to this forum and i've just collected my ride (KTN RS3 in Malaysia) 2 days ago and still getting used to it. Any SEA region riders here have changed their top box. I think the stock top box is a lite small...

rjmorel 02-19-2015 12:43 PM

I've liked the shinko E700 Trailmaster on my XT250 for paved road and gravely stuff. Way nicer then the stock tires that gyrated at speed. Not for snow or mud though but then I don't like to get my bikes dirty :) rj

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-60-17-Shin...c828bb&vxp=mtr

SpudRider 02-19-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by G19Tony (Post 179844)
I rode the Maglev from Shanghai to Pudong and back, just to do it, on a trip there a few years ago. It was pretty cool. :tup:

It's a shame that we will never be able to make something like that happen here.

It's mysterious how the Chinese can build the world's fastest train, world's largest dam, et cetera, yet they can't build a single decent motorcycle. :p

:hehe:

SpudRider 02-19-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FTEY (Post 179872)
Hi... Im new to this forum and i've just collected my ride (KTN RS3 in Malaysia) 2 days ago and still getting used to it. Any SEA region riders here have changed their top box. I think the stock top box is a lite small...

Thanks for joining us. :) If you have time, please do post photographs of your KTN RS3 from beautiful Malaysia.

I own several of the travel trunks shown in the following thread, and I like them a lot. :) I am going to install one of these large travel trunks on my personal Zongshen RX3. Check the links provided by Humanbeing to purchase one of these trunks in Malaysia. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14279

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psaec2b9c0.jpg

SpudRider 02-19-2015 02:30 PM

I would buy a KTN RS3 from this sales person. :)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k7SakbaKbg...0/DSC_0239.jpg

Huck369 02-19-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 179888)
I would buy a KTN RS3 from this sales person. :)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k7SakbaKbg...0/DSC_0239.jpg

I want THAT option on my Cyclone!!!!

SpudRider 02-19-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Huck369 (Post 179889)
I want THAT option on my Cyclone!!!!

That is the most expensive option with the highest maintenance schedule, but I still love it. :)

rjmorel 02-19-2015 04:22 PM

Looks like only black market availability. Notice no tank badges on bike ;)

thillskier 02-19-2015 04:24 PM

Amen SPud!
 
highest priced and MOST maintainance, period.
However, what a joy to ride;)!! hehe

Resale suffers a bit though, and monthly maintainance AFTER "trade in", ESPECIALLY when for a newer model, the monthly maintainance is outrageously expensive...seems NEVER ENDING!!:)!! They seem to really HATE being supplanted by a newer and or a model with (apparently) lower mileage seems to make the payment go off the scale! (who ever knows the TRUE mileage, what with all the roll backs (or takebacks re miles, and rebuilding/upsizing/upgrading accessories thats going on nowdays!)

Xtyling 02-19-2015 04:59 PM

I could never trade mine in.. It would kill me first.

thillskier 02-19-2015 06:49 PM

Xtyling
 
AND THAT they do ALSO!! Murder!

SpudRider 02-19-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rjmorel (Post 179894)
Looks like only black market availability. Notice no tank badges on bike ;)

I'm betting they removed the Zongshen badge to install their KTN badge. ;)

SpudRider 02-19-2015 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtyling (Post 179899)
I could never trade mine in.. It would kill me first.

:lmao:

thillskier 02-19-2015 07:18 PM

LIFETIME tv
 
Plenty of murders by ex'es..for insurance $, or kids custody (and child support $), looks to me, all they are looking to get P A I D !!

Louis Angel 02-19-2015 08:04 PM

Holly crap I want one of those Zongshen RX3 bikes!!!
Cant AFFORD it right now, so I don't feel the least bit bad about ordering the new Lancer today. BUT, I can already see that in my Garage in 3 years!!! WOW THAT IS AWESOME LOOKING!!!!!

Wolftrax 02-19-2015 08:14 PM

Hope the bikes get here soon, chicks on bikes, we're getting desperate. :lmao:

SpudRider 02-19-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 179925)
Hope the bikes get here soon, chicks on bikes, we're getting desperate. :lmao:

:hehe:

Are you going to switch to a 21-inch front wheel? If not, which of the 18-inch front tires do you like?

RedSpruce 02-19-2015 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 179926)

Are you going to switch to a 21-inch front wheel? If not, which of the 18-inch front tires do you like?

I know I'd like to switch to a 21" front wheel. Is it better to buy a new 21" wheel or re-lace the 18" stock wheel to 21"?

Wolftrax 02-19-2015 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 179926)
:hehe:

Are you going to switch to a 21-inch front wheel? If not, which of the 18-inch front tires do you like?

I'm going to try my hand at relacing a 21". I had Woody's build one for my Tenere but $600 bucks is a little too much. Will more than likely follow your lead. Would be great to have another hub or wheel to work with. I'll more than likely run a T63 up front and a E07 on the rear.:tup:

SpudRider 02-19-2015 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSpruce (Post 179927)
I know I'd like to switch to a 21" front wheel. Is it better to buy a new 21" wheel or re-lace the 18" stock wheel to 21"?

You need to use the stock hub to build the larger wheel. The brake rotor must fit in the brake caliper on the left fork. The speedometer unit must mate with the hub, and lock to the right fork. The hub must also be the exact width to center itself between the forks. Therefore, unless the maufacturer sells a larger wheel with the same hub, you must order larger custom spokes, and lace a larger rim to the stock hub.

There is a very slight chance the hub from my Zongshen ZS200GY-2, or a standard Chinese hub will fit the RX3 forks. I own two such wheels, and I will test them after the RX3 bikes arrive. However, I'm betting I will need to order longer custom spokes, and lace a new rim to the stock hub. I have done this several times before, so I am familiar with the process. ;)

SpudRider 02-19-2015 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 179928)
I'm going to try my hand at relacing a 21". I had Woody's build one for my Tenere but $600 bucks is a little too much. Will more than likely follow your lead. Would be great to have another hub or wheel to work with. I'll more than likely run a T63 up front and a E07 on the rear.:tup:

If you don't want to do the job yourself, I will build you a 21-inch wheel for much less than Woody's price. ;) If I sold someone a used rim, I was building custom, 18-inch rear wheels for the Zongshen ZS200GY-2 for less than $300, including shipping in both directions.

If I need to order custom spokes from Buchanan's, I will have them record the specifications with the name Zongshen RX3. Then anyone who wants to build his own wheel can order the custom spokes without needing to repeat the measuring process, et cetera. :)

I really like the 18-inch, T63 tire for the front wheel. It looks as if it will clear the mud pretty well, yet still handle well on the pavement. :) However, the problem with mounting these rear tires is the weight. When you put a rear tire on the front wheel, the steering is sluggish, and the unsprung weight of the wheel is very large. A 21-inch front wheel is lighter, quicker to respond, and will definitely surmount off road obstacles much easier than a heavier, 18-inch wheel. In addition, you have a much larger selection of 21-inch tires from which to choose. ;)

SpudRider 02-19-2015 09:38 PM

If I can find the front hub for sale at Taobao, we could order extra hubs from China. Then we could lace domestic, alloy rims with Buchanan's custom spokes to the Taobao hubs. This would allow us to keep the stock, 18-inch front wheel as a spare, instead of dismantling the wheel to use the stock hub to build another custom wheel. ;)

FTEY 02-19-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spudrider (Post 179887)
thanks for joining us. :) if you have time, please do post photographs of your ktn rs3 from beautiful malaysia.

I own several of the travel trunks shown in the following thread, and i like them a lot. :) i am going to install one of these large travel trunks on my personal zongshen rx3. Check the links provided by humanbeing to purchase one of these trunks in malaysia. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14279

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psaec2b9c0.jpg

Attachment 2325

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Wolftrax 02-19-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 179932)
If I can find the front hub for sale at Taobao, we could order extra hubs from China. Then we could lace domestic, alloy rims with Buchanan's custom spokes to the Taobao hubs. This would allow us to keep the stock, 18-inch front wheel as a spare, instead of dismantling the wheel to use the stock hub to build another custom wheel. ;)

This was what I was hoping for. Keeping the original and then build a 21" wheel from another hub. I'm tempted to do it my self but may take you up on your offer to build me one.


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