RE Scram 411
 

Not yet.....but it looks like a deal is basically done. I'll find out Tuesday.....but figured I'd start something now. After all, it's been cleared by Mrs. 2LZ. The coast is clear!
Looks like my DRZ is sold to my neighbor, so that will pay for most of it. Here's the one I'm working on. Hopefully pick it up next week. It was a choice between this and the Titanium/Blue. Mrs. 2LZ liked the black one better.

https://www.aspowersports.com/New-In...87321?ref=list

Nice bikes, Hope you enjoy it!

I'm starting to turn into herbie, swapping bikes around so often now. Normally not like me.....

that one is a nice bike. Maybe this will stick around for a longer while. :)

Nice bike, I wish there was a nearby RE dealer so i could check out something like this in person.

They're an amazing bang for the buck.

I was down on RE for the longest time. "Under-powered for the displacement and weight". I mean, 25hp out of a 411? Really? Then I bought the Interceptor 650. Compared to other 650, it's grossly under-powered at only 47.5 horse. My V-Strom had about 70 and it's considered slow these days. Then I rode it.....

What RE has done with their bikes is maximize the TYPE of power, as opposed to pure numbers. Every bit of the available HP is completely usable, which also maximizes MPG and motor longevity. These things have been proven bullet-proof. My 650 is listed at 70MPG....and for a bigger bike, it sips gas compared to my old VStrom.

The 411 motor may not have tons of gusto, but again, the power curve is maximized. It will do 70mph on the freeway, all day. That's enough for me and where I live. Plus, again, it sips gas at a listed 90 mpg. That's right there with a 200cc Hondoid.

Also, RE has made one the easiest-to-work-on bikes I've ever wrenched on. EVERYTHING is accessible. I did the valve check on my 650 in far under an hour. My entire 300 mile service took me less than two beers. I was almost disappointed.

Anyway, really looking forward to playing with the Scram, both on its back, and with wrenches.

"My entire 300 mile service took me less than two beers."

Cut a beer can and see what its thickness is. It might make a good valve gap feeler gauge.

Did it. Yet another "acceptable deal" from the dealer.
Here's my neighbor Ron, with the loaded bike.
Then I took it for a short ride to the store, then home to the rack for a good butt sniffin'.
The motor is WAY more mechanical sounding than the 650.
Going to put on about 50 easy miles tomorrow to help break her in.

Well, almost to the 300 mile service and I've learned a LOT about this bike. I know someone else here picked one up and I'd like to get his input if he shows back up.

First, the best way I can explain the power of this motor is like this. No, it's not powerful at only 25hp, but the power is like if you've ever owned or driven a 300ci Ford straight six. Everything is from idle to about mid-range, then it's nothing more than more noise after that. Mind you, it's dtill choked up stock, but everything I've seen online explains exactly what I'm experiencing. The "over-square" cylinder delivers torque, and is mechanically noisy.

It's getting quieter as it breaks in, but man, mid-throttle on up in the higher RPM ranges almost sounds mechanically catastrophic. Come to find out, this is normal. Don't panic, just ride the piss out of it. I personally believe it's caused by detonation from being run so lean thanks to EPA/CARB/EURO standards. Plus, it's whisper quiet on the exhaust, so every engine noise stands out.

All this said, the bike is an absolute hoot to ride. It handles amazingly well, the brakes are definitely more than adequate, both end suspenders work well enough, even with my 215 pound arse on it. The seat is also the most comfortable stock seat I've ever sat on. This is the first bike in forever that I haven't changed the seat right away.

Ergo-wise, it's also the first bike I've owned in forever that I didn't automatically add risers. I did order them in advance, but I may return them. The bars are in the perfect spot for me. Odd.

Once you get used to the Ford Straight Six power delivery of the motor and use it as such, I can see why the Himalayan 411 has such a strong following. Very, very friendly power. Plus, first tank, tight as a drum during break-in, 72.5 MPG. Can't complain.

Now for the 300 mile service. Oil and filter, check everything over and valve adjust. Then the mods begin.I have on order:

Risers, center stand (The Scram doesn't come with one stock), hand guards, small engine guards, adjustable levers, Kick stand pad, DNA air filter kit, PoweRage slip on exhaust, Fuel-X Lite programmer, small fly screen. That should do me for a while......

Did the 300 mile service yesterday. Once again, RE made it super easy and everything was accessible. Just like a China Bike, the valves were tight, as expected. Set them to spec.
Got the PoweRage slip-on installed. More parts coming..... Modding is the funnest part!!!

In an effort for sound deadening, I lined the underside of the tank. Had a bunch of scraps leftover from a car project so why not????

Broke 500 miles yesterday. She's purring like a kitten!

More mods. Installed the Delkavek head pipe to the PoweRage muffler. Helped across the board getting rid of the cat, along with the DNA open air filter kit. Can't wait for the little EFI programmer to show up.

I was out on the Scram each of the last two days for ~100 miles of twisties, first day with a buddy on his T100 and yesterday with another friend on his KLR650. Today I think neighbor and I are headed into the Cascades for the day for some dirt and probably mud, looking at the forecast. Recheck bolts this morning before we go, grab the toolbag. I love that it’s an all-around utility bike.

Isn't that thre truth. I don't do any real dirt anymore, but this thing is a hoot on the tight paved twisties and gravel roads. I'm really happy so far with how the CEAT's are hanging onto pavement. I'm scraping my shoes all the time.

Well... submitting first warranty claim...

what's up?

Uh oh... Anything big?

And what’s wrong with that!! :lmao::lmao:

Skid plate, right rear mounting point has sheered. Four+ month old bike. Dealer thinks it won’t be an issue to cover - “It is known,” as they say in Star Wars.

Ah yes, the awesome skid plate. The RX3's here cracked early on. I used rubber toilet washers on mine and avoided the breakage.

I took mine off the Scram when I saw the first post about cracking on the other forum. I wanted to paint it anyway. The thing fit poorly. Lots of tension squeezing together side to side and the front squishing backwards at the two mounting bolts. I could see where the right rear mount would take the brunt of the stress.

Stuck mine in the vise and tweeked it around quite a bit, test fitting the whole time. Fits with far less tension now. Hoping to avoid the inevitable cracked mount. Ended up lining it with dyna-mat type stuff to stop any buzzing and help insulate the echo.

She's finally done.
Mods and upgrades:

Reshaped, painted, and insulated the skid plate
Fuel-X Lite
Cat-free header pipe (Delkevic)
PoweRage Exhaust
DNA air filter and box upgrade
LED Headlight
Adjustable levers in black, of course
Home-made Tail Tidy
One tooth smaller countershaft sprocket
Insulated under tank and on top of air box
Rebadged and (satin) clear-coated tank, and deleted those funky side covers
LED turn signals w/resistors
Grip Puppies
Fly screen
Bar risers
Upgraded mirrors

Today, it topped out at 46' so we rode west, out of the foothills into the valley to the Lake Pardee overlook. Great to get out, not too many frozen corners. Went with my friends Big Chris (on the KLR) and Ron (on the CSC RX3). Beautiful day wrapped up in warm duds. The shady areas were sketchy but not too bad. The Scram did flawlessly. Man, I love this bike the more I ride her. The worst part was the ride home to the Upcountry after we stopped for Chinese food. It got COLD! Pulled into the driveway at 3000' elevation.....at 36' in my shop. Cold enough for this old fat guy. Had to shower again to thaw. Worth every mile though.

I like the scram's size against the KLR. when are you going to upgrade to the new Himi? That 450 has lots of power! :)

Funny you mention the size. I mounted the Shinko 705's on his KLR and I was almost shocked at how big the bike is. It fits Chris well. He's almost 6'4".

The new Himmie??? I think it's going to smoke the market and be another massive hit.....just not in my market. If I was younger and more aggressive? Most likely. I love the mild-mannered personality of the 411 motor, plus it's air cooled. No coolant to mess with. These are just my personal preferences though.

How is the seat height on the Scram?

They quote just over 31". I have a 32" inseam and have no probems mounting or sitting on it. The little bag I put on adds to the extra "old man noise" throwing my leg over. Without it, no problems at all.

There's a discussion on the RE forum right now about the Scram's usefulness and being underrated. Folks do a lot with them. Again, to me it's all about the paved twisties and gravel roads. It sucks them up. My only complaint is the 411 motor makes weird noises, but it bullet proof. Apparently the noises are implanted from the factory just to make you worry. ;-)

Here's the link to a thread I started. Check out the vid at about 4 minutes. That's the dang noise. Apparently it's harmless and all the 411's make it.

https://www.royalenfieldowners.com/i...g-rattle.5062/

So its about the same height as Honda CB300 then. Just barely manageable for me. But at least its at a height where its in the running when i go looking at an RE next year.

Good to know to expect some odd noises with it from the get go.

The Scrams seat height is almost the exact same as my Shotgun. Just narrower. The tallest seat in the RE lineup is the Interceptor I believe.

All of the RE air cooled engines make noises. My 650 has that same background clatter of a solid tappet valvetrain as my Hawk, though the Hawks is a bit more noticeable. I like the noise, though I may be a bit odd.

It's just part of the old-skool bike experience. I like it too.

From the further reading i have done the Hunter is the same height again. From what i can tell from looking at the Hunter its basically a scrambler style bike as well.

Technically speaking, the Hunter is a Roadster style motorcycle the same as the Classic 350, Bullet 350 Interceptor 650 and my Shotgun (yes, the Shotgun is also a Roadster). Mid to mid-rear peg and control placement, standard handle bars, and a mostly upright to slightly forward riding position. The Bullet is just the untouched classic version of it while the Hunter has a more modern design and feel to it. Both of those being bobber versions of the Classic 350. The Interceptor is the Sporty/Fast one, and the Shotgun is just a modern interpretation of the bullet. The Meteor 350 is just the cruiser version of the Bullet.

If you actually think about it, that may be why the RE bikes are so popular. They basically build 5 variations of the same bike, but they all 5 have a unique feel and attitude to them. Somethin for everybody, but also all the same in a way. They are starting to do the same with the 650's as the Classic 650 is coming, which is going to be based on the Shotgun 650 design with the floating single seat, but with full set of classic fenders, a traditional teardrop tank, and spoked wheels. Sort of a mashup of the Shotgun and Super Meteor mixed with elements from the Classic 350 to round out the look.

What made me think the Hunter was just a smaller version of the Scram was the fact it has the same style Skid plate.

The Hunter is more or less a road going Scram if you want to look at it that way. The frames are from different base bikes, but they definitely have a similar look and feel to them.

Totally different bikes. The Scram is a Himalayan based bike, with more off-road type of suspension, geometry and travel, with the same engine. The Hunter is a street bike and was never designed for off road. There's guys on the RE forum who have done the scrambler conversion to their Hunters and they are very cool, but so far, still lacking off the pavement.