Crash Bars - anyone?
 

I'm sure this may have been covered by someone already but - can't manage to find the answer.



Does anyone have any crash bars?? Like the tubular outer skeleton 'cage' that goes around the sides of the engine?



Was wanting to get some but judging by the pictures and what I've been able to find - no idea if any of these would fit.. I have a skid plate, fit was for a YZ250F and bolted right on, perfect alignment - but I don't wanna drop like 200 bucks on a bar setup and it not fit lol



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It's funny you ask. I was researching (ok, dreaming) about riding the dirt roads in Nepal. There is a popular bike they import called Hartford, which is manufactured in Taiwan, but for all intents and purposes is pretty much the same bike (albeit much better quality--again, made in Taiwan) as the Chinese dual-sports. They have a model called the VR220 and in watching a few videos, the dealers have seemed to attach the crash bars. Now, the key would be to write to the vloggers reviewing the bikes in the comments sections; they could probably point you in some kind of direction, such as to the dealers they borrowed the bikes from. Not that you would order from a dealer in Nepal, but unless they manufacturer them locally (could be the case), they are probably ordering them from someone, somewhere. The problem I forsee is that not all dual-sports utilize the same frame design. At any rate, here are the two videos, and they might offer enough to visualize an idea to mount some on your bike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDXdPnSGcXM&t=90s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-olA2ZA4I&t=64s

The universal 1:
http://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/10...!109245436.jpg

I suppose if you only or very predominantly ride on the street then this design crashbar in the Video examples might be okay but that is an absolutely horrible for offroad set up, especially if there are trees involved. That is just a huge obstruction looking for something to bash into, or get hung up on ,they look like the bars 800 pound street Harleys use , not something for woods riding. no offense intended by the way ,but there is no way in hell i would ride a bike in anything approaching serious offroad with that huge ass bar sticking out the side lol .

In the videos I have been watching on riding in out of town places in Nepal, it seems there aren't many trees to worry about. The roads themselves are the adventure, and these bars are more for simply laying the bike down on the rocky/dirt terrain aka 'road'. :lol:

Case guards?
 

Here are some examples I have spotted on Argentine bikes. For the record, Nodak has few trees and lots of gravel roads, hills, and cow trails.

Factory Argentine case guards
 

Factory guards from Argentina

Those argentine crash guards stick out far less and are much more "Rally" design and offroad friendly than the first type we were discussing, i can see those offroad.

Hey, dakotakid.. do you have links for those bars?
They sure look like they would bolt right onto a Brozz with the exception of maybe where they mount to the passenger peg

Holy crap - I've got some researching to do lol


Thanks everyone!

Well, honestly looking for something a little more low-profile I suppose to say..



I was kind of referring to the Yamaha Tenerererererererererere or however it's spelled :lmao: (Tenere)..


Kind of like this: https://touratech-usa.com/store/Cras...yABEgIy3fD_BwE


I'm on your side honestly about bars that stick out - just would like to protect a little if'n I go down. I like to hit the jeep trails here and there - lots of rocks and such.. My last crash was about 5 years ago, all of them took place off-roading so no road rash but plenty of crushed limbs! Skid plate was my first bolt on not but a few days after putting everything together. Probably will be getting an metal one later to replace the polymer one I got from Cycra. Those bikes in the pics and the hawks do look a lot a like - but mine is like the Orion RXB-250L...

Tenere 660 engine bars on my XT660R...

Source for the Argentine crash bars
 

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar...zr-250-gta-_JM


They say they are for the 250 GTA, but in the comments section, the seller says they will fit the regular 250 model.

The other versions I think were custom made. I have only found those on his IG page.

Man, I wish I could figure out how to translate/purchase. Even getting them, and making necessary mods to fit would be a boon, could then explain step by step to other how to do it.

There is no mod to be done, they are made to fit the "Hawk" "Brozz" "TT250" Chasis.
I will show in a picture the mounting points, you will find that you have the same in the brozz.
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The problem is that exporting them would be expensive, it would be much cheaper just to copy them and made them at a local smith. It's just tubular steel

I'm just curious to see if it is possible to have them shipped to me. Unfortunately the language barrier is a difficulty for me to inquire.

As being possible, it is. But the price would be deal breaker.
The whole set (left and right side) is around 107 usd, i don't know how much does a smith charge in the US.

$107 is cheap.

The shipping to the US, assuming the seller is even willing, will probably cost more than that.

Yes, $107 is cheap. I contacted a seller in Argentina today on FaceBook to see if he could send them to me. He said he didn't know if he could export.
He is supposed to reply after he investigates a little.

Which that brings me to an interesting proposal. I see WildDog is from Argentina. How much would you mind me shipping me the packages if they were shipped to you? I would make it worth your while lol.

I would say that a reputable tune shop probably charges somewhere in the $65-80 dollar an hour range just for labor. Plus add in material purchase for the tune steel, plus the design aspect. The measurements would be tough to replicate without having one on hand. So I could see it easily adding up to $300-500 dollars to have a set custom built from scratch.
I would say with a full set at $107 and shipping at equal to or even a little more than that, well worth paying for having it shipped to you.

This. We have a winner. Even if the shipping was another $100, it would still be a lot cheaper than paying somebody to fabricate something for you.

I bet you could find them on Aliexpress if you could figure out what to search for , their site is more than a little wonky with search words and results.

I did an inquiry with the Correo Argentino (just like USPS but Argentine). Shipping the crash bar to the US should be around 120 USD.
https://www.correoargentino.com.ar/s...nacional-aerea


So i guess that bars plus shipping should be around 230 usd.
Show me facebook link, so i can have a chat with the seller. I still think it is somewhat expensive just for some tubular steel, but if the price is right.

https://m.facebook.com/4-elementos-515400018962403/

So that is the person I briefly spoke with about possibly shipping to me. I have not heard back yet.

I also found another website, from a company in Argentina, that carries slightly different side supports. I did not see engine guards offered on their website.

https://www.ronlaiver.com/en/galerias/zanella-en/

And then, the original website that dakotakid posted seems to carry both engine guards and side supports, so seems could be ordered from there and then shipped.
Appreciate all the checking, Wild Dog.

Those are not the same as the one from the early picture. Those are aftermarket ones for Zanella.

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar...zr-250-gta-_JM

This are the OEM, in fact they are being sold by the same company Zanella.

I am trying to find the OEM Chinese manufacturer of them too, but no luck so far. Product number 236-80015-PAR

That product # is for Zanella internal part order. Zanella mostly if not exclusively sells rebranded Lifan products. My Zanella was a Lifan Chasis with a Lifan Engine.

On their ML website, they say those crash bars are chinese made i have my doubt because i never saw them in aliexpress nor alibaba.

Right, but either way, those on the ML website are correct ones we are talking about, right?
I know the RonLaiver ones were different, but should still bolt to the standard frame.
The MercadoLibre should be the correct ones, though.

Any updates on these!?!? I got myself a tbr7 and wonder if they’d fit on it.

Couldn't find anyone willing to ship them. Let me know.if you find a way.

I know this is an old thread, but for anyone still interested in crash bars, Motocult sells them now.

Link: https://motocultparts.com/products/h...43838903419079

That's their more "adventure or rally-ish" set in my opinion, although they call them their highway/crash bars. If you poke around the site there are some other more "highway" type crash bars as well.

Here are what I think of as the more "highway" style bars, even though they call them their adventure bars: https://motocultparts.com/products/h...43562961699015

Then there's this fairly minimalist set of highway bars: https://motocultparts.com/products/h...0-highway-bars

At least they give you a few different options.

Super awesome!!! I've been waiting to find this, but dangit you just added $220 to my wish list.

I'm right there with you! But mine will only put a $160 dent in my bike wish list budget as I prefer that set myself. :)

Motocult crash bars installed
 

My crash bars came in a few days ago. The shipping was decently quick. I just got around to mounting them up this evening. I'm going to do a little massaging (grinding and then repainting the ground area) on them where they do just make contact with the portion of the lower frame tubes that attach to the front downtube. I'd also have to do a little cutting on the stock plastic skid plate that covers those same lower frame rails if I wanted to reinstall it. I may just forego that though and make a "glide-plate" type skid plate that fits just proud of flush with the lower frame tubes out of some reasonably thick aluminum.

The included hardware is decent enough, but nothing spectacular as the bolts are a bit longer than necessary and have some pretty generic looking heads. I'll see if I can't source some more OE looking bolts, but that's not a huge priority at the moment.

The top back portion of these particular style of bars do encroach on the knees just a bit if you have long legs and you have occasion to slide forward on the seat, but not objectionably so. I'd recommend wearing knee protectors if you're going to ride off-road with these bars. Then again, I'd recommend knee protectors if you're going to ride off-road, period.

All in all they're a good bit of kit. Like I'm finding out is the case with a lot of things for China bikes, if you really want them to look like they belong on the bike then they'll take a touch of custom fitting. They'd be perfectly serviceable right out of the box though, so no real complaints here. I was also pleasantly surprised to find they fit around my oil cooler like they were made for it. That was completely by accident, but I'm sure not complaining.

Anyhow, on to the obligatory photos!