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SpudRider 06-06-2017 12:07 PM

Bashan Forks/Parts Vendors?
 
I am interested in purchasing a pair of the new USD forks employed by the Bashan Brozz, Bashan Storm, et cetera. Does anyone know a domestic vendor who sells these Bashan forks? The Bashan USD forks are very similar to the ones shown in the photograph below.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...tification.jpg

Here are the dimensions of these 37mm, USD Chinese forks.

Diameter of inner fork tube: 37mm
Diameter of fork at upper triple clamp: 48mm
Diameter of fork at lower triple clamp: 51mm
Overall length from tops of fork caps to bottom of fork tube: 33.5 inches
Axle diameter: 12mm

I can purchase a pair of these forks from Taobao for $50/pair, but the shipping cost would probably be over $100. Therefore, I would like to know if anyone sells these forks domestically. ;)

culcune 06-06-2017 12:51 PM

Call Kandi USA since they used to distribute the Brozz and Shark (no USD forks for the Shark). Usually distributors are allotted spare parts, but not sure if that would include forks. Maybe they have a parts bike they tore/tear into? I do know that Excalibur has a complete new in box TMEC 200 bike minus the wheels, but not sure if that will fit and not sure if Alan or Wade will part that bike out any more than the wheels.

http://www.kandiusa.com/

culcune 06-06-2017 12:52 PM

Duh--I have a parts TMEC 200 which I already sold the wheels off of. It has USD forks.

SpudRider 06-06-2017 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by culcune (Post 258484)
Duh--I have a parts TMEC 200 which I already sold the wheels off of. It has USD forks.

Thanks for the reference to Kandi USA. :)

Do your TMEC 200 forks match the description I posted earlier in this thread?

culcune 06-06-2017 04:35 PM

Let me measure them when I get home...

BARLOW 06-07-2017 05:25 AM

they seem to have some forks here ... http://parts.powersportsbest.com/ind...-sets.html?p=1

Wancsta 06-07-2017 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BARLOW (Post 258561)
they seem to have some forks here ... http://parts.powersportsbest.com/ind...-sets.html?p=1

Don't mean to take this off topic but have you or anyone ordered from this place before? I went to order a part from them since they showed the PayPal logo in the lower left but there was no option for it at checkout.

SpudRider 06-07-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BARLOW (Post 258561)
they seem to have some forks here ... http://parts.powersportsbest.com/ind...-sets.html?p=1

Thanks for posting the great link! :tup:

I contacted them by telephone. They have the forks I need at a very reasonable price, and their ups shipping cost is also very reasonable.

:thanks:

I might buy someone's used forks. However, if I decide to purchase new forks, I'm always looking for the best deal. ;) Does anyone else know another parts vendor who sells Chinese USD forks?

BlackBike 06-07-2017 03:36 PM

Spud, Are these usd forks for the zong sierra with all those miles?

SpudRider 06-07-2017 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 258600)
Spud, Are these usd forks for the zong sierra with all those miles?

Yes, I am considering these forks for my Zongshen Sierra 200 (ZS200GY-2). The Zong's original forks are in good condition, and working well. However, I have never liked the "hocky puck" brake caliper on the front wheel; it is very poorly designed. After about 82,000 miles, this brake caliper still stops my bike, but it clatters all the time while riding technical terrain, and sometimes even screeches. It is not damaging the brake rotor, but I am tired of listening to it chatter away. :wtf:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...inishedJob.jpg

The new forks are a different design from my original ZS200GY-2 forks. The new forks will accomodate the newer, better, front brake caliper which comes with the newer Chinese, dual sport bikes. :tup: I can buy a new, "hocky puck" brake caliper from Taobao for about $10, plus shipping. But I am seriously considering the switch to new forks, and the newer brake caliper, shown below. ;)

https://gd1.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/7...!708561671.jpg

https://gd3.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/1...1801555622.jpg

2LZ 06-07-2017 05:22 PM

Spud, will the existing disk work with the dual piston caliper? I had the hockey puck on my X-Moto and it had a much wider (deeper?) wear band than my dual piston calipers. The disk was larger diameter, as well.

SpudRider 06-08-2017 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 258604)
Spud, will the existing disk work with the dual piston caliper? I had the hockey puck on my X-Moto and it had a much wider (deeper?) wear band than my dual piston calipers. The disk was larger diameter, as well.

I'm glad you joined this thread, 2LZ. :) Perhaps you can help me to verify the proper fitment. ;)

My ZS200GY-2 front wheel appears to be identical to the CSC TT250 front wheel. Also, the speedometer sending unit appears to be identical.

My front brake rotor is 265 mm in diameter. I read the TT250 brake rotor is the same diameter. Perhaps you can verify this measurement for me. Both brake rotors employ 6 bolts.

The forks of the CSC TT250 appear to be identical to the standard, Chinese USD forks. Here are some photographs and measurements of the Chinese forks. Perhaps you can verify for me the forks are the same.

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/1...!183847414.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/1...!183847414.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/1...!183847414.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/1...!183847414.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/1...!183847414.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/1...!183847414.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/1...!183847414.jpg

https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/1...!183847414.jpg

http://parts.powersportsbest.com/med...04_copy_73.jpg

http://parts.powersportsbest.com/med...05_copy_73.jpg

http://parts.powersportsbest.com/med...06_copy_68.jpg

http://parts.powersportsbest.com/med...07_copy_49.jpg

http://parts.powersportsbest.com/med...09_copy_26.jpg

http://parts.powersportsbest.com/med...00010_1_15.jpg

If the forks, wheel, speedometer sending unit, and brake rotor are the same, then I should be able to purchase a front brake caliper from CSC which will give perfect fitment.

SpudRider 06-08-2017 12:49 AM

Here is a recap of the dimensions for the standard, 37mm, USD Chinese forks.

Diameter of inner fork tube: 37mm
Diameter of fork at upper triple clamp: 48mm
Diameter of fork at lower triple clamp: 51mm
Overall length from tops of fork caps to bottom of fork tube: 33.5 inches
Axle diameter: 12mm
Distance between caliper mounting holes: 60 mm

SpudRider 06-08-2017 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 258604)
Spud, will the existing disk work with the dual piston caliper? I had the hockey puck on my X-Moto and it had a much wider (deeper?) wear band than my dual piston calipers. The disk was larger diameter, as well.

I assume the front brake caliper for the TT250 is the same as the brake calipers shown below. However, purchasing a front brake caliper from CSC would be a safe bet, just in case the measurements are different. ;)

If the Bashan Storm/Brozz has a 265 mm, front brake rotor, a front brake caliper from the Bashan Storm/Brozz should also be a perfect fit, since these Bashan bikes also employ the Zong's front hub. ;)

Can you verify the front brake caliper on the TT250 is the same as the photographs shown below? Thanks for all your help. :tup:

https://gd1.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/7...!708561671.jpg

https://gd3.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/1...1801555622.jpg

BARLOW 06-12-2017 02:03 AM

i am sorry, i should have said before ... i have not used this vendor ... only thing i need from them they are out of

BARLOW 07-06-2017 03:38 AM

could you not just make a bracket and put new caliper on stock forks? ... maybe have one made at a shop for a bit less than cost of new forks ... but on the other hand, new parts are always good too

SpudRider 07-07-2017 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BARLOW (Post 260842)
could you not just make a bracket and put new caliper on stock forks? ... maybe have one made at a shop for a bit less than cost of new forks ... but on the other hand, new parts are always good too

Thanks for your input. Yes, I thought of that solution. ;) However, the problem has resolved itself; after riding it for about 84,000 miles, I have retired my Zong. Goodbye old girl; you served me well. :)

I replaced my Zong with a 2006 Yamaha XT225. I bought the bike for $1,800 dollars. It was in mint condition with only 1,004 miles on the odometer. :tup: I have transferred the shock spring, skid plate, hand guards, and 4.1-gallon fuel tank from the Zong to the XT225. I will post a thread on my Yamaha in the near future. :)

http://i.imgur.com/TMH2hwU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZMpT1Wp.jpg

hertz9753 07-07-2017 07:40 AM

That bike is pretty close to the old Honda XL185S. Congrats on the purchase of the lightweight wife bike and I mean that in a good way. :tup:

Megadan 07-07-2017 09:04 AM

I wonder if these front forks could be used with the TT250 triple clamps for a budget fork upgrade on the Hawks? Buying the whole assembly from CSC would cost almost $800, because they want $300 a piece for the forks, but the entire triple clamp assembly is only $95, and if these forks would work, that could do the whole conversion for $255, and be, more or less, a bolt in conversion.

Yes, I know I could convert to some name brand bike forks, and it's tempting, but for a hassle free conversion that requires no real work, it's a step up from the toothpick forks the Hawk comes with.

Anybody with a TT250 care to measure the forks at the triple clamps? If the match these then I may just pull the trigger on ordering some parts to do this.

SpudRider 07-07-2017 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hertz9753 (Post 260932)
That bike is pretty close to the old Honda XL185S. Congrats on the purchase of the lightweight wife bike and I mean that in a good way. :tup:

Thank you.

The XT225 has a larger engine than the XL185, and a beautiful, wide-ratio, 6-speed transmission. :tup: I can comfortably cruise at 50-60 mph for hours on the XT225. With a low saddle height and a dry weight of only 238 pounds, the XT225 handles nimbly on steep, rocky and loose terrain; it is a joy to ride. :)

SpudRider 07-07-2017 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 260938)
I wonder if these front forks could be used with the TT250 triple clamps for a budget fork upgrade on the Hawks? Buying the whole assembly from CSC would cost almost $800, because they want $300 a piece for the forks, but the entire triple clamp assembly is only $95, and if these forks would work, that could do the whole conversion for $255, and be, more or less, a bolt in conversion.

Yes, I know I could convert to some name brand bike forks, and it's tempting, but for a hassle free conversion that requires no real work, it's a step up from the toothpick forks the Hawk comes with.

Anybody with a TT250 care to measure the forks at the triple clamps? If the match these then I may just pull the trigger on ordering some parts to do this.

If you are referring to the Chinese USD forks, I believe you might be correct. You need to determine if the triple tree from the TT250 will fit the Hawk. However, you would also need to convert to the TT250/Bashan front wheel, brake rotor, brake caliper, speedometer sending unit, et cetera. ;)

What is the fork travel for the Hawk?

Megadan 07-07-2017 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 260955)
If you are referring to the Chinese USD forks, I believe you might be correct. You need to determine if the triple tree from the TT250 will fit the Hawk. However, you would also need to convert to the TT250/Bashan front wheel, brake rotor, brake caliper, speedometer sending unit, et cetera. ;)

What is the fork travel for the Hawk?

The tt250 tree will fit the Hawk. I know that without a doubt. Speedo sending unit as well since I have seen a TT250 with a hawk tach cluster. Front brakes are a close match if not identical except for the rotor shape. Axle diameter is the same but length may be different, but a tt250 front axle is 5 bucks lol. May also need the tt250 left side spacer, but that is even cheaper.

Not too sure on the Hawk suspension travel. I have never seen any published figures from any vendor or even RPS. I would estimate around 8 inches, give or take. Maybe a bit longer. I could deal with a little loss in travel if these forks are shorter, same with height. I was considering making it into a more road oriented bike anyway.

SpudRider 07-07-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 260959)
The tt250 tree will fit the Hawk. I know that without a doubt. Speedo sending unit as well since I have seen a TT250 with a hawk tach cluster. Front brakes are a close match if not identical except for the rotor shape. Axle diameter is the same but length may be different, but a tt250 front axle is 5 bucks lol. May also need the tt250 left side spacer, but that is even cheaper.

Not too sure on the Hawk suspension travel. I have never seen any published figures from any vendor or even RPS. I would estimate around 8 inches, give or take. Maybe a bit longer. I could deal with a little loss in travel if these forks are shorter, same with height. I was considering making it into a more road oriented bike anyway.

The TT250 front wheel, brake rotor, and speedometer sending unit are the same as those on my Zongshen Sierra 200. I might be wrong, but I believe the Hawk uses the traditional, Chinese front wheel. Can you post photos of your Hawk's front wheel, et cetera.

Megadan 07-07-2017 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 260977)
The TT250 front wheel, brake rotor, and speedometer sending unit are the same as those on my Zongshen Sierra 200. I might be wrong, but I believe the Hawk uses the traditional, Chinese front wheel. Can you post photos of your Hawk's front wheel, et cetera.

Any particular picture you are looking for? I don't really want to pull the front wheel if I don't have to, but if necessary I will.

BlackBike 07-08-2017 12:35 AM

Spud, you've been busy.. great job, I Guess you can say old zongs never die, they just keep Rollin on.

With only 1000 miles you really found a gem! It's barely passed the break-in.

SpudRider 07-08-2017 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 260985)
Any particular picture you are looking for? I don't really want to pull the front wheel if I don't have to, but if necessary I will.

No, you don't have to pull the front wheel. ;) Just take photographs of both sides of the wheel hub, and also take a photograph of the brake rotor.

Incidentally, I am parting out my Zongshen Sierra 200. Therefore, I have all the parts you might need.

Zongshen Triple Tree
Zongshen Forks
Zongshen Front Wheel (alloy rim)
Zongshen Front Brake Rotor
Zongshen Front Axle
Zongshen Headlight
Zongshen Ignition Switch
Zongshen Speedometer Sending Unit
Zongshen Front Brake Caliper and Master Cylinder
Et cetera...


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