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SpudRider 05-30-2017 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azhule (Post 257604)
I still want to know where Spud can find Alloy wheels for soo little $$... and he found them in the sizes I want too... everywhere I found selling Alloy's only carry 18" and larger

Warp9 sells the 2.50-17 rim, which I bought on eBay. You can also buy the rim directly from Warp9. ;)

http://www.warp9racing.com/product/mx-enduro-rims/

The Warp9 and Tusk Impact rims for the front wheel are readily available from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC.

If you wish, send me a personal message, and I will help you to find the rims you desire at a reasonable price. ;)

ben2go 05-30-2017 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 257624)
I laced the 2.50-17 rim to the rear wheel for three main reasons.

1. The narrower rim makes it much easier to change the rear tire, especially at trailside.

2. The narrower rim gives me a larger selection of tires from which to choose for proper fitment. The Suzuki DR650 and Kawasaki KLR650 both employ the 2.50-17 rim on their rear wheels. ;)

3. The 2.50-17 alloy rim is much lighter than the 3.00-17 steel rim.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...pspic238s6.jpg

I laced the 1.60-21 rim to the front wheel for better off road handling, lighter weight, and a much greater selection of knobby tires from which to choose. Narrower front tires work much better in mud and sand than wider front tires. The narrower front tire bites deeper into the loose/soft earth while seeking, and finding better traction. The wider front tires tend more to float over the loose/soft earth, and are much more likely to wash out. The wider tires are also much heavier, adding to the unsprung weigh of the wheels.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/q...psxgf6gqwd.jpg

Thanks. I understand. I always went big for floatation staying on top of the muck and quick sand. :tup:

fjmartin 05-31-2017 12:00 PM

Here it is Spud. It was spread out inside the RX3 thread on ADV Rider. Here is the search I used to find each mention:

http://advrider.com/index.php?search...&o=relevance&c[thread]=1007040

SpudRider 05-31-2017 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fjmartin (Post 257788)
Here it is Spud. It was spread out inside the RX3 thread on ADV Rider. Here is the search I used to find each mention:

http://advrider.com/index.php?search...&o=relevance&c[thread]=1007040

As always, thanks for sharing the good information, Joe. :tup:

KamenRiderBlackRX 06-20-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fjmartin (Post 255000)
Why's it taking so long! I got my 500 miles in two days. Max speed 42 mph. Do it!!! :-)

Wow! you rides 2 full days non stop?

BlackBike 06-21-2017 12:51 AM

Another favorable report
 
https://adventuremotorcycle.com/bike...vs-bmw-r1200gs

2LZ 06-21-2017 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 259721)

That was a very good review.

It always cracks me up though when they "compare" two vastly different bikes.
"In this months edition, we have a shoot-out between the Suzuki DR200 vs the Kawasaki KLR 650!"

fjmartin 06-21-2017 06:44 PM

What I think makes this an extra valid article is that Rob has not only been riding for years and is a HUGE adventure off-road guy but he's also an instructor at RawHyde Adventures.....The BMW off-road training facility in California. He just doesn't bring the RX3 to work :-)

SpudRider 06-22-2017 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 259721)

Thanks for posting the link to that interesting and fair review. :tup:

dpl096 06-22-2017 09:56 PM

That was a very fair review of the RX3. It won't change the mind and hearts of the haters....but then again who cares. I love my RX3 and don't need their agreement.

Jay In Milpitas 06-24-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 259740)
That was a very good review.

It always cracks me up though when they "compare" two vastly different bikes.
"In this months edition, we have a shoot-out between the Suzuki DR200 vs the Kawasaki KLR 650!"

The article is titled "Impressions", not a shoot out. Rob owns both of the bikes in the article and he's sharing his impressions, not pontificating.

I don't see anything wrong with the article nor do I see the bikes as "vastly different, simply different breeds of the same species, kind of like evaluating whether an Arabian or a Clydesdale is more suited for a particular equine task.

Jay In Milpitas 06-27-2017 02:00 PM

Production statistic.
 
Finally there is a production number given, whether intentional or leaked.

About 20,000 RX3's alone.

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=25806
It's in the text beside the stunning gas pump attendant.

jbfla 06-27-2017 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 260248)
Finally there is a production number given, whether intentional or leaked.

About 20,000 RX3's alone.

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=25806
It's in the text beside the stunning gas pump attendant.

I saw that too, Jay.

What's your guess for RX3's in the US?

Mine guess is ~500.

jb

CSCDude 06-28-2017 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 260248)
http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=25806
It's in the text beside the stunning gas pump attendant.

All of the women in Colombia were stunning. It was one of the best rides ever, on one of the best motorcycles ever.

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/..._250-2-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...1_2843-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/..._0214-6501.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...0_2752-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...0_2781-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...0_2786-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...8_2261-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...8_2489-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...6_0550-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/..._04520-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...4_0138-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...4_0181-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...4_0185-650.jpg

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/..._0062-6501.jpg

Jay In Milpitas 06-28-2017 10:51 AM

We'll see if Joe has enough latent muscle memory to smoothly work the foot controls on Steve's bike this week.:lol:

2LZ 06-28-2017 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 260012)
The article is titled "Impressions", not a shoot out. Rob owns both of the bikes in the article and he's sharing his impressions, not pontificating.

I don't see anything wrong with the article nor do I see the bikes as "vastly different, simply different breeds of the same species, kind of like evaluating whether an Arabian or a Clydesdale is more suited for a particular equine task.

Sorry Jay, apparently I wasn't clear. As previously stated, I thought it was a very good review. I understand that he was using the Beemer simply as the opposite end of the spectrum (or different breed) in the ADV class. Nothing more. I enjoyed the article very much, especially coming from someone who owns both, just not test riding both.

My second sentence was simply to state that in many magazines and reviews today (which I should have noted), I see them "comparing" or shoot out vastly different bikes these days, as opposed to when I was a kid. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Being critical of the article was the furthest thing from my mind.

Nice pics Joe, thank you for sharing.

Jay In Milpitas 06-28-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 260319)
Sorry Jay, apparently I wasn't clear. As previously stated, I thought it was a very good review.

blah blah blah,,,,,,,,

Nice pics Joe, thank you for sharing.

Cool, let's have a beer.:tup:
No beer smiley thingy.

BlackBike 06-28-2017 12:34 PM

CSC Joe takes such good photos that I'm sure that fuel station would be honored to use that pic in an ad.
http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...4_0181-650.jpg

CSCDude 06-28-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 260337)
CSC Joe takes such good photos that I'm sure that fuel station would be honored to use that pic in an ad.
http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...4_0181-650.jpg

It's hard to take a bad photo of a beautiful woman or a CSC motorcycle.

Thanks for the kind words.

2LZ 06-28-2017 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 260324)
Cool, let's have a beer.:tup:
No beer smiley thingy.

Well if you ever make it up to the Volcano area, I got first round! :-)

BlackBike 06-28-2017 01:02 PM

It just looks like it was a purposefully staged ad photo rather than a true impromptu pic.:tup:

Now that you seem to be in one place on the earth for the moment, explain this...young man?? :p

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/..._1742-650A.jpg

We all have your blog on speed dial around here.

1cylinderwonder 09-06-2017 05:04 PM

New competition for RX3 in the U.S.A.
 
Did you see the new 2018 Suzuki GSX250R that Suzuki is releasing for sale in the United States? It's a liquid cooled parallel twin with 8 valves. No mention of horsepower or torque figures. Selling price is suppose to be $4,499.00.
Top speed appears to be around 85 to 90 mph.
The pricing is approaching the affordable selling price of the CSC RX3. I hope CSC doesn't raise the MSRP of the RX3, it could cut into their sales.
It appears that the smaller displacement, smaller size and less expensive motorcycle market in the U.S.A. is expanding. I guess everybody doesn't need a 1000cc 120 horsepower commuting motorcycle!
It'll will be interesting, and fun, watching what other bikes enter the smaller size motorcycle market.
Stay tuned!

Jay In Milpitas 09-08-2017 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 264753)
Did you see the new 2018 Suzuki GSX250R that Suzuki is releasing for sale in the United States? It's a liquid cooled parallel twin with 8 valves. No mention of horsepower or torque figures. Selling price is suppose to be $4,499.00.
Top speed appears to be around 85 to 90 mph.
The pricing is approaching the affordable selling price of the CSC RX3. I hope CSC doesn't raise the MSRP of the RX3, it could cut into their sales.
It appears that the smaller displacement, smaller size and less expensive motorcycle market in the U.S.A. is expanding. I guess everybody doesn't need a 1000cc 120 horsepower commuting motorcycle!
It'll will be interesting, and fun, watching what other bikes enter the smaller size motorcycle market.
Stay tuned!

The GW250 is several hundred cheaper, uses the same engine and has better ergonomics. Neither come with luggage and you have to take them to the dealer for service to maintain the warranty.

1cylinderwonder 11-20-2017 11:16 AM

The Dealer Fallacy!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 264816)
You have to take them to the dealer for service to maintain the warranty.

This is a myth that is perpetrated by the “Dealer Network”!
The dealer, manufacturer, would have to prove that lack of any service actually caused a failure. Manufacturing errors or dealer misdeeds cause most of the after-sale problems. I’ve had to correct misaligned wheels, too tight or loose chain tension, incorrect clutch play, missing nuts, bolts, & screws, under filled oil level, etc on my new bikes.
SO DON’T COUNT ON DEALER PREP & SERVICE TO BE CORRECT! :hehe:

AdventureDad 11-20-2017 02:08 PM

Seems the same power as ours. There’s a very stagnant thread on advrider about it. Something like 8 pages while the Versys 300 thread is huge. Odd...guess it’s way more performance for the same price. Heck, I want one (Versys) after reading on it.

Jay In Milpitas 05-10-2018 01:49 AM

RX3 Competition, sort of.
 
There has been talk about the new BMW 310GS being competition for our bike. Here is one person's machine and a start on what she has done to "make it better".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wobqoXGMuvg

vickytulla 05-10-2018 06:44 AM

I did a bit of home work in my country down here in Pakistan; for my RX3 it took 4000$ from booking in factory to finally getting it registered and legal to roam arround the whole country.. This does not include fat offfroad tires and some tweaks I did later in the longer run including the CSC oem center stand and things like that..

Where as intial Cost of import and getting it registered a BMWGS310 was 9000$ (estimated) and putting Panniers, trunks, crash cage/gaurds, also changng to Daul sports tires instead of those sporty looking ones (which were in package that time - without rally raid)... would drill a whole in my pocket, I would prefer to import a slightly used F800 with all things putted by previous owner from europe or some where in roughly same amount of funds.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 279714)
There has been talk about the new BMW 310GS being competition for our bike. Here is one person's machine and a start on what she has done to "make it better".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wobqoXGMuvg


2LZ 05-10-2018 10:14 AM

I'm a little surprised that for starting at 6 grand, the suspension was marginal. We got marginal suspension for far less.

I wonder who makes the motor?

1cylinderwonder 05-10-2018 10:45 AM

BMW G310GS Wonderful??
 
I don’t think so. To answer 2LZ, the engine is made in India, as is the whole bike, using machinery made by BMW in Germany, and then shipped to India for assembly and production.
I waited over two years to see, touch and ride the G310 in California. When I finally did ride the bike I was really unimpressed with the ergonomics and the performance. The rider’s cockpit is very crowded and cramped, especially if you’re very big and tall. The engine vibrations and roughness is too much. The performance, lacking. :tdown:
After my test riding, I stopped at another dealership and purchased a Honda CB500X. Much better of everything than the G310.
Your results may vary!
Good luck.
1CW

jbfla 05-10-2018 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 279731)
......."
After my test riding, I stopped at another dealership and purchased a Honda CB500X. Much better of everything than the G310........
1CW

1CW, I test rode the G310R when it came out, and was similarly unimpressed.

I haven't ridden the 310GS, but have 4 friends that have purchased one. They like it.

A much better choice for me was the Honda CB500F that I am in the process of changing into a 500X.

jb

Gaijin 06-29-2019 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G19Tony (Post 204301)
Ryan called me the other day and asked if I would let Dynojet use my bike for a Power Commander install. I just dropped the bike off today. I don't know how long they need it for, but I said that could have it for as long as they needed it. :tup:

I know this is a very, very old post, but I'm curious about how it turned out. I don't see a PCV available on Dynojet's site -- did they produce a PCV for the RX3 at any point?

Gaijin 06-29-2019 02:29 PM

Or, for that matter, is there any fuel tuner available from any of the manufacturers?

NzBrakelathes 06-29-2019 04:34 PM

EJK in Montana do a unit for the AJP PR5 using a Delphi EFI system and NC250 engine
That’s worth looking into?!

ElectricCircus 09-09-2021 07:48 AM

Hi guys!

Since 2018 haven´t my RX3 anymore: sold it only to move on towards a Benelli TRK 502 (500cc, twin cylinder, EFI, amazing Givi case set), so now came back here just to say thanks again to SpudRider and all the other amazing guys who shared their experiences and good advices with us on this thread!

:thanks::clap::thanks::clap::thanks:

Also wanna to share a Youtube video (Spanish audio, sorry) on wich I discuss all the pros and cons discovered on my RX3 (2016 carbureted version) after 2 years and 14,000mi of riding through the argentinean Patagonia roads:

https://youtu.be/__9QsJKsbQI

Best regards,

Juan Carlos Martins.
:hi:

vickytulla 08-15-2022 05:59 AM

RX3 the great entry
 
:clap: I moved to Rx3 as an entry level ADV motorcycle soon to realize any heavier than this ... I would not be able to handle, since we have next to none [ road] here in Himalaya as we have land slides almost all the time.


Our mountains are all soil and less rocky , more of a mud and gravel as this mountain range is relatively new if we compare them to rocky mountains like alpines.


so ADV bikes are not very effective but it gave me a good head start... I moved to a 450cc ASIA WING and it was very uncomfortable.


during COVID I start to keep my eyes on PitsPro GPX450R and now arranging that to shred some Himalayan mountain soil..


In Any case it was the most reliable, bullet proof EFI pocket ADV bike which gave me a very good start.:tup:

Manz 05-20-2023 12:42 PM

Guys here in Pakistan we got the latest variant of Rx3 .. its Head and Sound of engine is different although its heat range has been increased... it stays at 3 points and when we stuck in traffic it goes to 4 points, even start blinking. any suggestion if we get cooler Thermostat valve to keep it cool a bit... old had 70c thermo whereas latest has 80 degree thermostat valve

ElectricCircus 05-22-2023 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manz (Post 395073)
... any suggestion if we get cooler Thermostat valve to keep it cool a bit... old had 70c thermo whereas latest has 80 degree thermostat valve

Hi mate!

Can´t remember the setpoint nor have records of my RX-3 (2016) motorcycle thermostat; only have a picture ot the cooling fans switch (it was 93°C ON).
Based on your comments sounds good to replace the 80°C unit for a lower rating one, i.e. 70°C, in order to solve the overheating issue.
Before doing that you could verify if the actual unit is properly seated (some people had found them mounted backwards); if you have or can grab a multimeter with a temperature probe would be nice to check if it is working properly when submerged on a hot water bath at you home kitchen.

Regards.

GypsyR 05-22-2023 02:14 PM

Generally speaking, unless the thermostat is defective or incorrectly installed, changing it to a lower temperature one will not affect an overheating problem. If your engine is running a bit hot at 110c it does not matter if your thermostat opened at a more correct 90c or cooler 70c one. Some folks have been fooled into thinking a cooler thermostat helped them but it's normally that they have removed one that was faulty and anything would have worked better.

So yes, changing the thermostat to another CORRECT one might help but no need to change to a different temperature one.


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