New from New Jersey
 

Hey guys,

Just purchased a hawk 250 yesterday from power sports max. I plan to register the bike and use it to get to trails a few towns over. It just dawned on me last night... can I register this bike in my state? Has anyone had any issues registering these bike in New Jersey?

Any advice / info would be appreciated
Thanks, Bob

welcome!

not sure about NJ. there's another thread though with states which it's been done. do a search for that one. otherwise, just go give it a try and report back to us. worst case they say no and you can go the route of registering it in Idaho like I did. :)

Here's a list I have so far. Hope we can add NJ.

1. Louisiana- Successful. - Notarized MCO , Bill of Sale & Odometer Disclosure Statement. Proof of Insurance.
2. Texas- Successful.
3. Georgia - Successful. - Varies from county to county, for more info http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....7&postcount=74. IMO the Vin Tag Helped
4. Alabama- Successful.
5. Michigan- Successful.
6. South Carolina- Successful.
7. Minnesota Successful. -MCO, BILL OF SALE, engine number
8. Oregon Successful.
9. Oklahoma- Successful. -
10. Florida- Successful - MCO and Bill of Sale
11. Vermont- Successful -Bill Of Sale or Invoice. MCO not needed
12. New York- Successful
13. New Hampshire- Successful - for more info http://chinariders.net/showpost.php?...97&postcount=1
14. North Carolina- Successful - MCO , Bill of Sale & Proof of Insurance.
15. Arizona- Successful -MCO, bill of sale, visual inspection at the Arizona Motor Vehicles Division
16. North Dakota- Successful - MCO and invoice with purchase price
17. Pennsylvania- Successful
18. North Carolina- Successful
19. Ohio- Successful
20. Arkansas- Successful
21. Nebraska- Successful
22. Wisconsin- Successful
23. Massachusetts- Successful
24. Illinois- Successful

here's the thread too:
http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17919

Looks like I need to add Idaho.

Follow up
 

Hey guys,

I just received a response back from PMS regarding my registration question.


" Hi Bob,

It can be registered in New Jersey. After you receive the unit,you can request the title online.Here is the link.

http://www.powersportsmax.com/mso_request.php

Regards
Customer Service Team
Maxpro LLC
http://www.powersportsmax.com/
Fax: 1-626-602-3961
Phone: 1-888-473-9826
On Wed, 15 Mar at 8:55 PM , Bob L. <rwl6935@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, do you know if I will be able to register this bike in New Jersey?

http://www.powersportsmax.com/mso_request.php "

Thanks for the welcome!
 

Thanks guys!

If you read the response I posted from PMS the person says " if you need a title go here".

You'd think the bikes would come with a title for the very reason I'm asking him about.

Oui

They will send you the MCO. You will still have to go to your DMV to get the title, registration and tag.

Make sure the MCO states Motorcycle and not off-road. Engine size needs to be listed as 229cc and not HP. I personally didn't have any issues with it listed as 15 HP but other have.

VT does not care where you live, just that you have $120. If NJ doesn't want your money VT does.

Thanks!
 

Thanks for the advice!

I called the dealer in California and he assures me that nj will register the bike. As per New Jersey DMV website the bike has to either be on their approved list or have the appropriate EPA tags etc. I'll post what happens once I find out.

Thanks again

Crap--you will most likely NOT be able to register the Hawk in New Jersey. I hope, for your sake, that they are now carrying the Enforcer, and sent you one of those (commonly called the Chinese switcheroo as some members have ordered bikes, and a very similar one arrived--ok, I made up the name, but the switch has and does happen). The Hawk is not on the DOT list (FMVSS list or called something like that). I really and truly hope I am wrong, and the Hawk can be registered, but like I said, since NJ is one of a few states who go strictly off that list from the EPA/DOT, and the Hawk is not on that list (it is technically an off-road motorcycles as classified by the EPA) NJ might just be a no-go. Again, let's hope that is not the case!!

Call up Powersportsmax and get firm with them. Tell them your plans to street register your bike, and you checked and the Hawk is a no-go. You will want an Enforcer instead, if they have those. From what I understand, the Hawk is 49 state legal as an off-road bike (Californians need not apply), so don't let Powersportsmax use that loophole i.e. "you never said you planned to street register the bike". Hopefully, NJ has some consumer protection laws like New York to argue with for your case. California does, so don't hesitate to contact the BBB of California.

It will be interesting to see if you really can register a Hawk in NJ...I know it has been done in the past, but according to Don at American Product Sales Center (APSC), NJ has banned them effective January of this year. I hope not for your sakeand he has been wrong before, soooooo, good luck!!

He is a salesperson, and from what I can tell, he and Adam Renkleff from RPS had a falling out, so he is probably indirectly badmouthing the Hawks to move the Enforcer. NJ most likely never allowed one of the Hawks or Magicians to be registered simply because they only register bikes that show up on the FMVSS list--the list of cars and other vehicles that are EPA/DOT certified as on-highway vehicles. Pennsylvania goes off the same list. There seems to be no way around it if you want a NJ plate. A recent member had to go the N.Dakota route to register his Pitster Pro enduro. He is a retired cop, and planned to ride primarily off-road, so figured he might be able to get away with it; he is not riding all the time, either. As far as I can tell, the Hawk and Magician are EPA certified as an 'off-highway' vehicle in 49 states, which is probably the loophole the salesperson at Powersportsmax used rather than calling the customer, but enough be being negative--maybe there really is a loophole of sorts?! Let's hope!! :tup:

I remember somebody sending the paper work to South Dakota to get a title, registration and a plate.