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BlackBike 09-26-2017 01:13 AM

2018 klx250
 
https://www.kawasaki.com/products/2018-KLX250#

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKQYe9HV4AAwIeJ.jpg



With f.i. and better suspension (fully adjustable) then the Honda crf250. Will be fun to read about the head to head comparisons

timcosby 09-26-2017 01:29 AM

dang japs done went and copied the hawk and are trying to charge five times as much!!!!:lmao:

pete 09-26-2017 02:18 AM

Theres been talk that the KLR650 is going to get injecton..
not seen anything yet...

The KLX250 is a strong motor as it started life as the klX300 sleeved down to 250..
the Honda CRF250l is quite budget under all the pretty plastic... there new CRF250 rally
is just a heavyer version of the same bike with more exspenive brakeable bits...

WR250R is still the pick of the jap 250cc trailies but also by far the most exspensive...


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goat67 09-26-2017 08:33 AM

I sure would love to have that motor for my Brozz

BlackBike 09-27-2017 12:07 PM

That Kaw seat definitely looks more comfortable than that yam wr.


Yes , this is the gold standard

https://cloud.yamahamotorsports.com/...id=29385&w=840

More interesting yamaha info here https://adventuremotorcycle.com/news...250r-cancelled

321cc in a WR ??? Too good to be true, then we would b@$ch cause it's not a 450:hehe:

Ariel Red Hunter 09-27-2017 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 265807)
https://www.kawasaki.com/products/2018-KLX250#

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKQYe9HV4AAwIeJ.jpg



With f.i. and better suspension (fully adjustable) then the Honda crf250. Will be fun to read about the head to head comparisons

Water cooled? No way, for me. Too much weight up high, and un-necessary compliction...ARH

Azhule 09-27-2017 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter (Post 265952)
Water cooled?

11 to 1 compression with 6 speeds and fuel injection from the factory, and it comes in a shade of green?!?! Sign me up :hehe:

Ariel Red Hunter 09-27-2017 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azhule (Post 265974)
11 to 1 compression with 6 speeds and fuel injection from the factory, and it comes in a shade of green?!?! Sign me up :hehe:

You're welcome to it!...ARH

1cylinderwonder 09-27-2017 07:45 PM

Re-Pete, hope the rumor is true
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pete (Post 265810)
Theres been talk that the KLR650 is going to get injecton..
not seen anything yet...
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I’m sure hope the talk you heard turns out to be correct. I’ve owned three KLR650’s over the years and would really like a fuel injected KLR650. Wouldn’t have to fool with the carburetor so often and would probably accelerate and ride a lot smoother. I hope 2018 is the year!

pistolclass 09-27-2017 08:25 PM

wow ARH you are truly ole skool. my CR80 back in the 80s was watercooled. most of it was aluminium so the weight was small. It kept my high spinning 2 smokes engine heat under control.

I say dont add it unless you need it, but in order to make bigger power isn't it needed?

wheelbender6 09-27-2017 10:09 PM

Over $2500 cheaper than a WR250. I don.t know how much better the WR250 is.

pete 09-28-2017 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 265999)
I’m sure hope the talk you heard turns out to be correct. I’ve owned three KLR650’s over the years and would really like a fuel injected KLR650. Wouldn’t have to fool with the carburetor so often and would probably accelerate and ride a lot smoother. I hope 2018 is the year!

The KLX250 has most lightly got injecton to meet EURO4..
the KLR will also need it if Kawasaki wants to keep selling
them in Europe...
EURO4 is why Yamaha have stoped useing the 660 motor...



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pete 09-28-2017 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 265945)
That Kaw seat definitely looks more comfortable than that yam wr.


Yes , this is the gold standard

https://cloud.yamahamotorsports.com/...id=29385&w=840

More interesting yamaha info here https://adventuremotorcycle.com/news...250r-cancelled

321cc in a WR ??? Too good to be true, then we would b@$ch cause it's not a 450:hehe:

The 321 is a twin used in the R3 road bike...
i have been waiting for it.... with Kawaski , Suzuki & KTM building twin cyclinder 300/400cc
ADV bikes... Can only hope Yamaha will follow...

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Ariel Red Hunter 09-28-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pistolclass (Post 266003)
wow ARH you are truly ole skool. my CR80 back in the 80s was watercooled. most of it was aluminium so the weight was small. It kept my high spinning 2 smokes engine heat under control.

I say dont add it unless you need it, but in order to make bigger power isn't it needed?

No, it is not needed for more power. Possibly for the ultimite 16,000 rpm power with a power band about equal to a humming bird's wingspan. But this is an enduro/dual-sport motorcycle we are talking about. What is needed is better heat rejection. At least the engine used in so many of these China bikes need better cooling. Remember it was designed for third world cheap motorized transportation, not for high performance. And it is really nothing more than a 125cc engine streched every which way to get 229cc out of it. Using as much as possible the original casting dies. Air-cooled engine are not totally air cooled, and never were. They are about 50% oil cooled. This engine oil capacity is the same as when it was a 125, but now makes almost double the torque and more than double the hosepower. A small oil cooler, run inline from the strainer housing to the rocker gear in the head will reduce heat, and reduce heat where it does the most good. The barrel finning is inadequete for dealing with a lot more power, but the oil cooling helps this as well. So does using fully synthetic oil - it stands heat better. Synthetic oil also is less affected by the slicing and dicing of the oil going on in the primary drive and the transmission. The head finning and its layout is inadequete also, but the oil cooler works on that problem. If there was a big bore cylinder kit with more finning on the barrel, we'd be in hog heaven, but I've never seen one. So, to summarize, a higher performance Hawk type engine would require new cylinder and head castings with more and better laid out finning, and the next step would be dry sump lubrication, which, even with 2 1/4 quarts of lube oil, cools the oil much better....ARH

Sullybiker 09-29-2017 08:15 PM

KLX is a mean little bike. My friend rides one and that thing has plenty of power. Obviously you pay a premium for that, though...


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