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cheesy 09-24-2016 08:55 PM

Rpoc
 
Russian Piece Of Crap.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psjwj2annd.jpg

But it's my Russian Piece Of Crap.:yay:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psmi5zk4kg.jpg

2007 Ural Gear Up. 18,000 mi. Besides the standard Gear Up stuff; jerry can, shovel, spot light, luggage rack, and 2wd, it also has heated grips and a Trail Tech. Runs like a top but will need tires soon. But for ten grand less than the 2016 Patrol I was going to look at, I can stomach a couple hundred for tires.

MICRider 09-25-2016 08:17 AM

Sweet! You got one! Love the Urals, I've watched many on and off road videos about them and they impress the heck out of me.

Congrats!

FastDoc 09-26-2016 11:54 AM

Magnificent acquisition comrade Cheese-ski!
I also love Urals!
Is this a surprise or did I miss a thread where you were talking about getting one?

I hope this is in addition to, not instead of the Honda and your lovely bicycle collection.

Be careful on that thing. Sidehacks are weird under the best of circumstances.

Waiting for Wisconsin snow? ;-)

Weldangrind 09-26-2016 12:23 PM

Awesome! I've been lusting after one for awhile now. The 2WD will make it virtually unstoppable.

Bruce's 09-26-2016 01:47 PM

I think they are pretty neat as well ,I think I want one .Is that bike sold as a kit ,or is there a dealership network of Russian plumbing stores selling Urinals ?:hmm:

Sport Rider 09-26-2016 02:07 PM

Most excellent! how are you enjoying driving the rig so far? I have been looking long and hard at them. I've been hesitant due to the problem/repair factors and also lack of highway speed. I went with a sidecar attached to my Nomad instead.

cheesy 09-26-2016 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc (Post 232271)
Magnificent acquisition comrade Cheese-ski!
I also love Urals!
Is this a surprise or did I miss a thread where you were talking about getting one?

I hope this is in addition to, not instead of the Honda and your lovely bicycle collection.

Be careful on that thing. Sidehacks are weird under the best of circumstances.

Waiting for Wisconsin snow? ;-)

Surprise? Kinda sorta. I received a partial payout of my portion of my late Aunts' estate and told Mrs. C that I was going Ural shopping. I was wanting to look at a 2016 Patrol that the local Ural dealer supposedly had but I never got a response. So, either they didn't have it in stock or they are just really slow to get back to people. I was also kind of hesitant to drop $16,000.00, even if I could pay cash.

So, while I was waiting to hear back, the Gear Up came up on craigslist and it was fairly local. An hour away instead of 15 minutes to the dealer. I contacted the guy on Thursday and agreed to go see it on Saturday. He was asking $6500, I offered $6000 and we settled at $6200.

The Gear Up is their top rig, followed by the Patrol, the CT and the M70. The last two are single wheel drive. Biggest differences between the Gear Up and the Patrol are the accessories. The Gear Up adds a windshield on the bike and a folding windshield on the side car along with a spotlight, the rack over the spare tire, a 20L jerry can, and a small folding shovel. This one also has two solo seats on the bike instead of a bench seat.

Biggest difference between the 16 and the 07 are electronic fuel injection and all that is required to make it work, disk brakes on all wheels, spin on oil filter, and a hydraulic steering stabilizer on the 16. The 07 has Keihen carbs, drums on the rear wheels, cartridge oil filter and a friction type steering stabilizer.

Because I jinxed myself on the Gold Wing and Fiat Spyder, I decided to stay low this time until I actually bought it.

As far as the bikes and the Honda go, we'll see. I don't know if I'm going to ever be able to bicycle like I used to, so it may be time to thin the herd. I just paid for another years' license and insurance on the Honda, so it will stay around until at least next summer. If it stays will depend on how often it gets used.


Weld-I'm just as impressed with having the ability to back up.

Bruce-I count nine dealers in Canada. http://imz-ural.com/dealer-locator.html

SR-I don't have it in my possession yet but the test ride I did was a blast. Had I looked at it on Friday instead of Saturday afternoon, I'd already have it at home. I'm not overly concerned about the reliability issues because fixing things is what I do and most anywhere I want to go I can get to without freeway running. It's already insured and rolling it home on Friday. BTW, I'm planning on being sick on Friday.;)

I'm working in Seattle right now and fly out tomorrow night. Redmond, WA is where Irbit Motorworks, the Ural importer, is located. I'm done early tomorrow and heading to Redmond for the ten cent tour before I fly home.

About the insurance, I had a good laugh with my agent about an option I didn't spring for. It was for free towing to the 'nearest service center'. Not a bad option, but my smart ass remark was, "So they'll tow it home to my garage?"

BlackBike 09-27-2016 02:24 AM

Whoa...6200 to 16000, that's a helluva of a fuel injector. Glad you went with the used, you will have it running better than factory I'm sure. The reverse , that answered my question. I will have to read up on the 2wd. Neat!

cheesy 09-27-2016 05:58 PM

I got there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps0jjwfodv.jpg

I had a one on one tour with Jason, who has the same job title as I do, Technical Support Supervisor. It's a small operation so the tour only took about twenty minutes, but I got to see a lot of Urals. Gave me chills. Also got some questions answered about tires, vacuum ports, and bulbs.:tup:

Sport Rider 09-28-2016 10:51 AM

have you found the soviet steeds forum yet? I'm a member there too. I read a good bit but don't post much because I don't own one at this point. interesting to read though. I have a dealer about 45 minutes away. I really want to get down there sometime to test ride one. at least I'll have something to compare my Nomad against.

cheesy 09-28-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sport Rider (Post 232424)
have you found the soviet steeds forum yet? I'm a member there too. I read a good bit but don't post much because I don't own one at this point. interesting to read though. I have a dealer about 45 minutes away. I really want to get down there sometime to test ride one. at least I'll have something to compare my Nomad against.

Cheesy was taken so I'm cheeseheadmike over there. Like you, I laid low until I had a reason to post.

Sport Rider 09-28-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesy (Post 232432)
Cheesy was taken so I'm cheeseheadmike over there. Like you, I laid low until I had a reason to post.

just to carry it another step further, a number of hack guys post on ADVriders forum and also on the USCA site. on ADV riders, there's an interesting thread about why NOT to buy a ural, but it's mostly positive press about the bike.

cheesy 09-30-2016 10:17 PM

Got it home tonight. The ride was...different. The closest thing I can compare it to is an early seventies snowmobile with bogie suspension. A bit of body english is needed at times when turning, especially when entering a roundabout. All in all, a fun 35 mile ride, though my upper body took a beating. The CX it ain't. Also, in over forty years of riding, I've never used a heel toe shifter. Something else to learn.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps9sr3rvq3.jpg

The sidecar. I have two fifty pound bags of sand in there for ballast.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pszgfwzwrv.jpg

The dash.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psj4jyzawt.jpg
Either the Trail Tech or the speedo is lying. The speedo will show 65 and the Trail Tech shows 54. I think it's somewhere in between. When I get the new tires on, I'll recalibrate and relocate the Trail Tech.

The new tires showed up today which I thought was pretty good as they weren't supposed to ship until Monday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps3zsprjwq.jpg

Besides the new tires, there are a few adjustment to make. The rear brakes are way too loose and the idle is too high but that seems to be all I can really fault for now. :hi:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psqn4ojnwn.jpg

Sport Rider 09-30-2016 10:30 PM

you might try putting the sandbags in the trunk. that's where I keep mine, closer to the axle of the car tire.

it's a workout to drive these things. you are right aobut the snowmobile concept. left turns are not so tough, but lean your body to the right to help with the right turns.

I know the odometer is KM. is the speedo in MPH? wish you were closer so I could see how the leading link front end does. I'm running standard forks and I can feel the stresses on it in turns.

curious to hear what you think of the 2wd too!

:tup:

cheesy 09-30-2016 10:49 PM

I had a bunch of tools, filters and stuff that would blow around shoved in the trunk, that's why I have the bags up front. It'll change tomorrow.

I found that a bit of throttle helped with the right turns. A lot of leaning and muscle was needed on the left turn in the roundabout. Though, I was trying not to get run down there. Low speed lefts are pretty easy. Basically, the sidecar just wants to pull you to the right.

The speedo reads in both. The blue is miles.

That leading link front end feels really solid.

wheelbender6 10-01-2016 10:14 PM

If the Ural is tough enough to be ridden across Mother Russia, it should do just fine in the States.

cheesy 10-02-2016 06:19 AM

Tagged and titled.:tup:

cheesy 10-02-2016 01:00 PM

It meets with Mrs. C's approval.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps2f0eebsq.jpg

We did about twenty miles just to get some brunch. She says it is a lot more comfortable than the Honda.

However, I had to explain this label on the inside of the tub to her.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psrymdodo0.jpg

BlackBike 10-02-2016 03:55 PM

Wow, look at that:tup:

I see you could put a 3rd terrorist on there too:p:hehe:

:clap:

Weldangrind 10-03-2016 11:45 AM

It might be a good idea to check the toe and alignment. Perhaps that'll help with left turns.

FastDoc 10-03-2016 12:26 PM

That is so cool, CC (Comarade Cheese).

Congratulations!

In Washington 3 wheelers need a special license endorsement. How about out by you?

cheesy 10-03-2016 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 232889)
It might be a good idea to check the toe and alignment. Perhaps that'll help with left turns.

That's the plan once I get the new tires on. Also the 25,000km service.

Doc-Two or three wheels makes no difference in Illannoy.


Got the rear brakes adjusted enough that it stops, slowly, with just the rear brakes. I can set the parking brake on my driveway slope and it stays there now. Also rebuilt the rear stoplight switch yesterday.

The guys across the street from where I work came by to see it and asked if I could take their Dad for a ride in the sidecar next week. He's a rider from back when British bikes ruled but he'd never been in sidecar, so I agreed.

FastDoc 10-03-2016 05:38 PM

One of my patients showed up for his appointment on (in?) his Ural Gear Up this afternoon. Cammo grey/white. Total Badazz :-) My nurse saw it in the parking lot and she loved it. She's more the cowboy F350 sorta gal.

He said it took him 3,000 miles to get used to it but likes it a lot now. Rides it 10,000 miles a year all year. 2WD. Likes to take it camping up in the Blue Mountains on the dirt roads we like to dualsport on. Says scary on off-camber stuff. That I believe that is an understatement!

cheesy 10-04-2016 05:05 PM

My wife brought our grandson to the shop yesterday so I gave him a ride around the parking lot. I think he likes it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps7aj4szxf.jpg

My wife posted the above image on Facebook last night and not ten minutes later our niece posted a pic of her boys on the new rig they also brought home last Friday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psavtsnigz.jpg

My nieces' husband, Tim, and I traded jabs last night about our rigs.

Tim-Mine's American made.

ME-If it was made during the AMF days, I wouldn't brag about it.

Tim-Mine's nicer looking.

Me-I'll grant you the side car is nicer looking. Does it have a trunk?

Tim-Um, no. But it's lighter.

Me-Granted. Does the tub have a windshield or a spotlight?

Tim-No. But I can go on the interstates.

Me-That's all you got where you live. Can yours back up or go off road.

Tim-No. Can we argue football instead?

Me-We're both Packer fans, that would be like yelling at a mirror. Go fight with the Bears fan you married.

Tim-Man, she hits me when I'm right.

Me-Yup, just her Aunt.:lmao:

Sport Rider 10-04-2016 09:22 PM

you're acting just as stuck up as the rest of those ural-owning commies! :p:p:p

he forgot to mention parts breaking, motors wearing out, and all the maintenance! :D

(don't worry...it's all just jealousy!) :tup:

Weldangrind 10-05-2016 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesy (Post 233032)
We're both Packer fans, that would be like yelling at a mirror. Go fight with the Bears fan you married.

Best line of the week!

The little Cheese curd looks like he's having a blast.

Darkrider 10-05-2016 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 233091)
Best line of the week!

The little Cheese curd looks like he's having a blast.

Dare i say it it looks like he is enjoying the Ural more then the Harley lol

Sport Rider 10-05-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkrider (Post 233115)
Dare i say it it looks like he is enjoying the Ural more then the Harley lol

true. I guess those ural rigs ARE fun. :hi:

cheesy 10-06-2016 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport Rider (Post 233054)
you're acting just as stuck up as the rest of those ural-owning commies! :p:p:p

he forgot to mention parts breaking, motors wearing out, and all the maintenance! :D

(don't worry...it's all just jealousy!) :tup:

Tim and I have done this since he started dating my niece. Whether it's guns, trucks, sports teams, what have you. Usually ended with a clink of beer bottles before they moved out to CA for his job. Miss the guy.

Weld and DR-I found a joint that has seat belts specifically for the side car and sprung for a set. A trip to Cyclegear over the weekend for some headgear and there will be some real smiles.

cheesy 10-08-2016 08:19 PM

New shoes on the Ural today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psr50fbsjn.jpg

This is the tire changer I made from the HF Mini changer. It's the catsass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psttxjmrxr.jpg

Mrs C. likes this rig so well that we're taking it to southern Wisconsin tomorrow to get apples. About a 130 mile round trip.

cheesy 10-08-2016 08:29 PM

This was the original Russian tire from the side car. I don't think that says Goodyear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psr0gwgdpw.jpg

I'm gonna hang this one on the garage wall.

Darkrider 10-08-2016 10:39 PM

What kind of tires are those Senior Cheese?

cheesy 10-08-2016 11:11 PM

DR-The new tires are Duro HF 307 off.

Darkrider 10-09-2016 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesy (Post 233270)
DR-The new tires are Duro HF 307 off.

Thanks for the info! def gonna look into them to see if i can get them in the proper sizes for my DT250 and XL185. I have Dunlop Trials tires on the DT now but they are so old it isnt even funny...these have a similar tread.

cheesy 10-09-2016 06:16 AM

Just be aware that these are a six ply tire for a heavy bike.

Darkrider 10-09-2016 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesy (Post 233275)
Just be aware that these are a six ply tire for a heavy bike.

Fair enough, Good to know even though on the flipside that may help me considering i am a heavier rider. Just something i need to ponder.

Sport Rider 10-09-2016 04:32 PM

Looking good! how was the apple trip? Curious to hear how the mrs liked the sidecar on the road. my GF is not liking my seat so much, but that was about a 250 mile day, mostly highway.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesy (Post 233264)
New shoes on the Ural today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psr50fbsjn.jpg

This is the tire changer I made from the HF Mini changer. It's the catsass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psttxjmrxr.jpg

Mrs C. likes this rig so well that we're taking it to southern Wisconsin tomorrow to get apples. About a 130 mile round trip.


cheesy 10-09-2016 06:25 PM

Mrs. C loved the trip. We did 116.2 miles per the recalibrated Trail Tech. Her only gripe is that the only view to her left is a camo colored motorcycle. She says the seat in the tub is very comfortable. She brought along a wool blanket to keep warm and it worked well. There is a 12v socket in the sidecar that can be used for heated gear if we go that route. With a 50A Denso alternator, it shouldn't be an issue.

Gas mileage left a bit to be desired, I hit reserve at 75 miles, but I didn't have a full tank when I did the reset. Then again, the Ural weighs in at 736 empty. Throw me and Mrs. C in there, plus gear and apples and we are probably pushing close to 1200 lbs. Add the bricklike aerodynamics and I wouldn't be surprised that we'd be doing gallons per mile. Still, around 21 mpg.

I did try the 2wd today. We were trying to back out where we parked at the orchard and it was loose gravel. The pusher just dug in. I engaged the 2wd and walked right out. And it doesn't steer worth a damn in 2wd. As soon as I was out and pointed home, I put it back in 1wd.

While doing the brakes yesterday I found the the u-joints for the sidecar axle are not long for this earth. I found a Ural cross-reference chart and the Precision 134/Spicer 111 is a perfect fit. $13.46 each from Rock Auto. Ordered two. The new tires howl a bit.

Changing out all the fluids tomorrow after work, followed by a complete tune up on Friday morning. I should have all the PO fingerprints off of it by then.

MICRider 10-10-2016 07:38 PM

That mpg figure is interesting! In all the videos and articles I've read there has never been much mention of the fuel economy of these rigs. I would have thought better than 21... But then again, my GL1200 only did around 30mpg or so, and it's lighter and has less rolling resistance than the Ural.

Actually a smoking deal on one a few hours away from me.. Tempting! :)

cheesy 10-10-2016 08:52 PM

I'll be doing another mileage check on the next tank.

Did all the fluids tonight. Engine oil was black, trans was clean but way over filled, and final drive was like tar and very low. Set up for winter now.


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