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herbie 05-15-2019 05:15 AM

Greetings
 
Hello all, I don't own a Chinese bike yet but I am looking into it as we speak. I'm an old guy who's been riding and owning motorcycles for 46 years and loving the variety of bikes out there. I currently ride a 2002 Kawasaki Concours 1000 but I would like to get a smaller bike to throw my leg over. I'm leaning towards the Bashan bikes, I love the Brozz and the Storm both. It seems the Brozz bikes are non existent, but I've found a few of the Storms, actually there is a local powersports that has one in stock. I will probably order one when I'm ready though because I want the thrill of putting the bike together and making sure everything is right on the bike. I've watched a few you tubes with Motocheez and others. I like the hawk as well so that may be an option too. Anyway Hello from Illinois!

JerryHawk250 05-15-2019 07:33 AM

Welcome aboard! :hi: The Brozz is available. Contact Jeff with Peace Sports Atlanta., he's a Chinariders Member here.

jeffreyp@peacesports.com
770-662-1898 x106

goat67 05-15-2019 07:48 AM

Hello and Welcome, the Brozz is a nice bike

Megadan 05-15-2019 08:26 AM

Howdy! Lots of guys on here just like you that have/had bigger bikes and either wanted to get into riding again, or like me just enjoy a simple, small, slower bike to put around on that isn't a big heavy fire breather. The Bashan bikes are both good and have a strong following. If I had to choose between the two I think I would take the storm personally, or the new TaoTao TBR7. I like disc brakes on both ends of my bikes if I have a choice. If the Hawk is a possibility, then the BMS (Bashan also) CRP250 would be their closest equivalent to it. The Bashan bikes are a good option for those living in places that may not register a Hawk since it isn't technically 49 state legal.

dpl096 05-15-2019 07:59 PM

Welcome aboard from another inmate of Hellinois.

herbie 05-16-2019 04:39 AM

Thanks all for the welcome! :tup:

wedooit 05-16-2019 09:58 AM

Welcome herbie! I bought the BMS250crp for my wife. Venders list the seat height wrong, it is actually 35" approx. I looked at the storm. Megdan gave me some advice to me....I don't think he would mind me sharing...

"As far as which bike to get. I view most of these bikes as basically all the same horse in a different color. That being said, of the 4 bikes you are considering, I would split them into two groups. Group 1 is the "big wheels," which would be the Hawk and CRP 250. Group 2 is the "small wheels," or the TBR7 and Storm.

Group 1 advantages are specifically the bigger wheels. They will be better for off road, and finding tires is way easier since they use common sizes available from everywhere. The main disadvantage is obviously the seat heights are taller, at 34-35 inches.

Group 2 advantage = lower seat heights and counter balanced motors (less vibration). The disadvantage is that they can be annoying to find tires for.

Other than that, there isn't much between them. Same basic designs, engines, etc.

If it was me, I would go for a Group 1 bike if the main intent was off road riding. Then I would do the Seat Concepts seat and/or a shorter rear shock as needed to make it manageable for the height of the rider.

If I were going to choose between either of those two bikes, I would honestly recommend the CRP250 before the Hawk. However, if budget is really tight, you could easily get a Hawk. The Hawk is plenty capable of what you want to do.

I would say plan out either bike. Cost of the bike delivered, upgrades needed to make it work for you, and any other mods you would like to do, add it up, and see which bike fits the budget that you have to work with and make that the real deciding factor. "


If seat height is a factor, check out northrider posts, as they shaved the seat and did a great job. 2lz told me that if you order the seat from csc, you only get the cover and the foam. so for $200 or what ever it is, I would, and we are going to shave the seat ourselves.

Now, I am not sure, but the blue eagle brozz from peace sports, could be a counter balanced engine. You will have to check on that.

I looked at the Storm, as a dealer in Salt Lake had some, nice bike! Counter balanced engine. Don at apmc has some good pricing on these. if you contact him he might make a better deal. I almost bought one from him. Chiptoothy here has many miles on his storm and loves it!

I researched these bikes for almost two months, drank too many cups of coffee, and a few beers at nite reading posts and deciding what to do.

If you need some advice on the bms250crp, let me know.

good luck and welcome here!!!! by the way, I have a few or many grey hairs, and hate to admit I am older dude, but still enjoy that throttle sensation!

herbie 05-16-2019 07:42 PM

Good write up wedooit, good points to consider. I am fairly tall at 6' 1'' and 190 lbs so the taller bikes appeal more to me.
When I was first just casually browsing the net I came across the Tao Tao 250 and the Hawk 250 both for $1399 delivered and I get to assemble it too, COOL! I was in and ready to dive in then I thought I better research first. Oh Boy, that's when the doubts started to come in. Tall bike or Short? Balance shaft or not? Cheap price or more quality? Which seller to buy from? yadda yadda yadda.
Since this is going to be a play bike I will probably just get the cheap one and upgrade as needed.
I would very much like your take on the BMS250crp. Where did you buy it from? I haven't researched that bike very much so whatever you give me will help, Thanks

JerryHawk250 05-16-2019 08:04 PM

Don Hopper with shopampc is one of the few good dealers around. http://shopapmc.com/New-BMS-Bashan-2...ine-_p_15.html

holden 05-16-2019 08:10 PM

Hi all, long time rider, started in 1973 0n a H-D superglide. ( I know right, old man)!
:thanks:Just got a tao tbr7, Whats the diff between the Hawk? Thanks

dpl096 05-16-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by holden (Post 309315)
Hi all, long time rider, started in 1973 0n a H-D superglide. ( I know right, old man)!
:thanks:Just got a tao tbr7, Whats the diff between the Hawk? Thanks

Welcome aboard.... Congratulations on the tbr7. I think they great looking bikes and a solid value.

herbie 05-17-2019 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 309314)
Don Hopper with shopampc is one of the few good dealers around. http://shopapmc.com/New-BMS-Bashan-2...ine-_p_15.html

Thanks for this! I will give them a call today :thanks:

culcune 05-17-2019 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by herbie (Post 309337)
Thanks for this! I will give them a call today :thanks:

If you scroll down, Don has the Bashan BSR 250 'Enforcer' (he named that himself) for $1179. Same bike as the Hawk as far as looks, but it is a Bashan and EPA/DOT certified 49 state legal. Comes geared 17/46 for the street. There are a few differences between it and the Hawk. The BMS would probably be more refined, however, for a little more $.

JerryHawk250 05-17-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by culcune (Post 309342)
If you scroll down, Don has the Bashan BSR 250 'Enforcer' (he named that himself) for $1179. Same bike as the Hawk as far as looks, but it is a Bashan and EPA/DOT certified 49 state legal. Comes geared 17/46 for the street. There are a few differences between it and the Hawk. The BMS would probably be more refined, however, for a little more $.

And Culcune, He has a Lifan KPR200 or Bashan Extreme DB-47-250 waiting just for you. lol http://shopapmc.com/New-Bashan-Extre...ded-_p_66.html

herbie 05-17-2019 09:56 AM

I tried calling and a recording said the number has been disconnected :hmm:


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