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Stevens 04-15-2022 07:39 PM

Getting a KPM 200 this summer, Looking for advice
 
These are my current plans I want to share with you for any advice

I am currently saving money to buy a Lifan KPM 200, and my goal is to be the person to put the most road miles on it and share it here. During the first Covid lockdown I put over 2500miles on my Can Am ATV, and over 3 years 10,000km on my Vento Crossmax 250(similar to a Prohawk) and would’ve rode it more if I had more time, so I am pretty confident that if the KPM holds up well I will put many miles in it.

I am considering buying it from https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...r-200-lf200-3b

It seems to be the least sketchy website with the best price and some reviews, can anyone confirm?

Loctite everything and check the obvious https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...6YKYZULXS&th=1

I am planning on ONLY using Amsoil 10w 50 Synthetic DirtBike oil(and Honda GN4 10w 40 for break in), it is a heavily additive packed oil used for racing, https://www.amsoil.com/p/10w-50-synt...bike-oil-db50/

I have never used Amsoil products before, but I have heard they are the best of the best. Any comments?

I also want to add this grease on the axle and bearings, steering and suspension attachments to make sure they are well lubricated
https://www.amsoil.com/p/synthetic-w...nt-grease-gwr/
For coolant I will only use EngineICE: https://www.amazon.com/Engine-Ice-TY...00037332&psc=1

I could not find how much coolant the engine needs, any clues?
K&N Oil filter https://www.amazon.com/KN-113-Honda-...omotive&sr=1-3

Once I have a look inside the air filter box, I will also be modifying the box to improve airflow and adding the biggest K&N cone air filter I can fit
I am planning on making really long road trips even to Mexico (1000km on a day) and want this to last as long as I can so I can brag my odometer with you guys, so any advice is well received on how I can make this bike last longer.

I currently live in New Mexico, and I can’t wait to get this bike and explore this vast state, and then there’s Colorado beautiful roads, Texas is also Huge, Arizona’s Grand Canyon, in my future KPM 200cc at 100MPG nothing with stop me, not even California’s expensive gas… except the times when I must go to work ☹

But I am no joke!, someone knows what the current highest milage KPM200 is? I WILL BEAT IT, Give me a year or so to get the bike and some miles and share my experience.

My way of breaking in engines is: remove shipping oil and add whatever you consider good oil, turn on for about 10 minutes in idle so heat can settle the rings and everything else, then while still running all the time start driving for about 10-50km nonstoping the engine making sure to engage all gears on acceleration and engine brake, then remove oil and add new. Next ride gently maxing to about 5000rpm and change oil at 300km, then next oil change at 1000km and every 1000km, this is good for engines with no oil filter. The KPM 200 has an oil filter, so what would you guys change on my procedure? What I am thinking is make a 1500km oil interval, and 3000km for oil filter.

China Rider 27 04-15-2022 10:14 PM

You can tell you have done your homework with that plan. I have used some AMSOIL products and thought them very good. The test results I have seen indicate they are very good too. The one area I wonder about is that K&N filter. Here is a test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ3L-E-ufYo

Coloradogoose 04-15-2022 11:18 PM

If longevity is what you are looking for I would agree with China Rider 27. K&N offers better-than-stock airflow, but not superior filtration according to the tests I've read. I run a K&N cone on mine and it helped it breathe a bit up here at 7300 feet, but the elevation is the only reason I went that route.
Otherwise you have a sound plan. The KPM isn't the best highway machine, but it'll slay the back roads if you don't mind the extra time in the saddle.
I'd love to see how many miles you can wring out of that little motor. I'll be cheering you on!

Megadan 04-15-2022 11:41 PM

Just my own little advice. Don't use a racing oil for street duty. They may have a lot of additives, but they generally lack detergents, specifically detergents to hold particles in suspension. Race oils are engineered for short rounds of intense conditions and then they get changed after the race.

I had a discussion with a Motul product rep over this about using 300V instead of 7100 in my bike (vfr). That was the exact response he gave to me. I love 7100, and have never been disappointed in its performance.

TominMO 04-16-2022 09:07 AM

By far the biggest restriction in any modern airbox is the intake into the airbox. Just drill holes in the airbox cover or bottom (whichever is before the filter).

I used to have a 1990 Subaru Loyale which really struggled at RPMs over 4000. I drilled about 25 holes in the airbox bottom, where the intake was, and it picked up dramatically above 4K. If you look at the square inches of the intake hole, compared to the square inches of the filter medium, it is really obvious where the main problem is.

In the video above, the differences in acceleration are too small to make any significant difference. I'd go with the brands that filtered the best: Purolator and Wix.

Falkon45 04-16-2022 02:15 PM

I just put 4k miles on mine. It's a 2020. Make sure you upgrade the chain immediately also. It's a 428 chain. The originals chain needs tensioning ALL THE TIME!!

Falkon45 04-21-2022 06:24 PM

Also, looking at your part about the oil filter, you have the wrong one listed. You need the KN-112


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