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Bigmd 02-25-2019 02:21 PM

Hellcat a good choice?
 
Hey guys new to the site. Been researching bikes lately. I have a 79 Kawasaki KZ650 that’s in perpetual project mode . I’ve been looking for something else to cruise for fun and came across the TaoTao hellcat. For the price it’s very appealing . I was also looking at the CSC SG250 but for some reason the Hellcat keeps pulling me back. Would it be a good choice ? I’m not into speed and just want to cruise a bit and I love modifying things. I’m sure my buddies will bust my chops as they have full size bikes . Any info is appreciated.

chuck 02-25-2019 03:03 PM

The most fun you can have going 40 mph,no lie.Have 2 larger bikes but the little one get used the most around town.

Bigmd 02-25-2019 04:28 PM

Excellent thank you sir.

RedCrowRides 02-25-2019 08:43 PM

I think you will have to look long and hard to find more fun for your money than a Hellcat. The Chinese Grom clones are very affordable and respond super well to modifications, plus they are a plain blast to play around on.

I find myself riding my VADER ( same as a HellCat) twice as often as i do my Sportster because it's just so much less work to get on and go .

wlfpck 02-26-2019 10:53 AM

No real big difference between the Taotao hellcat, boom vader, and icebear fuerza.

Check out the Icebear Fuerza too if you're still shopping around. Comes with a longer rear swingarm than the hellcat, vader, grom.

cbrfxr67 02-26-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 301686)
The most fun you can have going 40 mph,no lie.Have 2 larger bikes but the little one get used the most around town.

this^^^ I have other bikes and definitely ride my vader the most

Bigmd 02-26-2019 07:34 PM

Thanks for all the input. Leaning towards the Hellcat . Been reading about the necessary upgrades and have them all on my eBay watch list, haha.

wheelbender6 02-26-2019 07:46 PM

Unless you are a tall fella, the Hellcat should do fine. Taller guys would be happier with the Kymco Spade 150.

Bigmd 02-26-2019 07:52 PM

Is 5’09” tall ? Lol

RedCrowRides 02-27-2019 05:48 AM

I'm an even 6 feet tall, my Vader is the Gen 2 that has a slightly lower seat height than the Gen 1 -

I "fit" on the bike just fine ,but I will say that when i changed the bars out , i did stick some 1" risers under there ,and later i switched to a Grom Gen 1 seat which is a lot "flatter" which allowed me to slide back more than the "locked in " hump style Vader seat did.These 2 things taken together gave me plenty of room to be comfy whether
cruising or stunting ,at 5 foot 9 you probably wouldn't need to do any of it but swapping the bars is worth looking at solely because the stock bars really have a "blah" bend and look ,you can find some Renthal ctyle bars on Ebay that are $30 instead of the 70$ real Renthals are that will work just find, in your choice of anodized colors.

scoot newb 03-07-2019 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 301686)
The most fun you can have going 40 mph,no lie.Have 2 larger bikes but the little one get used the most around town.

Does it really top out at 40? :wtf:

Whisky 03-07-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scoot newb (Post 302546)
Does it really top out at 40? :wtf:

No. I can hit 65 going down hill with a 40mph wind at my back.

scoot newb 03-08-2019 12:57 AM

:doh:

For real though, with your pipe, carb, and 17t front sprocket it can't cruise at 45mph on level ground?

I like that pipe I wonder if it will bolt right on to a Hellcat.

RedCrowRides 03-08-2019 09:11 AM

45mph cruising with or without pipe, carb, sprocket change is completely doable. BTW, you will be amazed at how significant the increase in power is with these bikes as they break in, even without mods. Mine was okay at 10 miles on the odometer but by the time i hit 300 , and then 500, it REALLY picked up ,especially on top end speeds, that is a recurring observation in threads here . With pipe/filter carb /sprocket changes 50-55mph cruising is doable with absolute top end being 62-65 mph .
Speeds well beyond that are doable with the Zs190 engine swap ,partly due to the increase in CC's, and partly due to the Zs190 has a 5 speed tranny vs the stock 125's 4 speed box.

scoot newb 03-09-2019 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RedCrowRides (Post 302641)
With pipe/filter carb /sprocket changes 50-55mph cruising is doable with absolute top end being 62-65 mph .

This is where I'd like it to be at.

Mine should be here Friday. I was set to order the front sprocket, carb, air filter and pipe before it even shipped but after reading a bit I found reports newer Hellcats come with a 16t front sprocket and a larger 25mm carb but I can't confirm.

Do you know which pipe is a direct fit? I've seen a couple I liked but they required some fab work I won't be able to do.


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