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Old 06-22-2019, 02:41 PM   #1
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New shock for tbr

So new koeghs shock came in. I ordered a 310mm but it looks like they sent me a 300mm which is the exact length of the original one, was hoping for an inch height increase. Also it did not come with any instructions? So need to know which way up ? Pre load adjuster down(same as stock) or preload up and damping adjuster down(that would match the factory warning sticker).


 
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:22 PM   #2
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:32 PM   #3
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You could mount it either way, but most rear shocks are mounted with the body up for the reason Pete stated, which is the preload adjustment in this case. That is how I mounted mine.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:49 PM   #4
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Spring on a stick

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You could mount it either way, but most rear shocks are mounted with the body up for the reason Pete stated, which is the preload adjustment in this case. That is how I mounted mine.
You guys are the best That way is the opposite to the factory but makes sense the way you have described it.

So spring on a stick coming

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Old 06-22-2019, 05:57 PM   #5
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Picture of my wife on the bike with stock shock ( 5'7" 140lbs)( that's ultra top secret if for women... most men don't give a shit).

It was supposed to be a height comparison between stock and the new Koeghs shock but they sent me the wrong length , so not expecting the bike to be any higher
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Old 06-22-2019, 08:03 PM   #6
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The bike will sit higher under load vs. the stock spring/shock even if there is no actual height change. The linear rate spring of the Keoghs will have no sag built in like the stock one with its dual rate spring. The Keoghs also has a higher spring rate. Getting that rider sag set right will be important.
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:26 PM   #7
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The bike will sit higher under load vs. the stock spring/shock even if there is no actual height change. The linear rate spring of the Keoghs will have no sag built in like the stock one with its dual rate spring. The Keoghs also has a higher spring rate. Getting that rider sag set right will be important.
Well you're right about the height change with the linear rate spring. I did gain maybe 1/2 inch but its not really enough for me.

Dan maybe you can help me out? I hate to say it but the shock just feels like a slightly stiffer spring on a stick. I have tried to turn that adjustment screw at the bottom but it makes a full turn and then it feels like it has 3 clicks , if you go past the 3 clicks in either direction then you can make almost the full turn and get back to the 3 clicks . I have tried all 3 clicks and also half way around on the way back to the 3 clicks and nada, no difference? It acts just like the video i posted but it's a little harder to push down

What was the top fitting for ? it looks like a charge / discharge port or is it an adjustment as i did not mess with it.

Did you receive an owners manual with your shock ?

Do you think they just sent me the wrong/not working shock to try and pull a fast one on me? I would appreciate your feedback.


 
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Sounds to me like you got a defective shock. Mine turns about 15 or so clicks in one direction, then stops, same in reverse. Most of them are useless and I have found only the last 3 positions on the firm side to be worth anything, with the second to last being the best compromise between comfort and handling.

If it has the silver fitting at the preload side of the shock, it should be a valve so you can pump up the shock pressure. I covered adding pressure to my shock in a different thread. Mine came with 40psi, and I pumped it up to 100 just to see the effect, and it made a small difference on the damping, mostly on rebound. That said, yours doesn't lool like it has the valve, only a plug, so that may explain why it feels like a pogo stick. With zero psi in my shock it too was a springy mess.
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Sounds to me like you got a defective shock. Mine turns about 15 or so clicks in one direction, then stops, same in reverse. Most of them are useless and I have found only the last 3 positions on the firm side to be worth anything, with the second to last being the best compromise between comfort and handling.

If it has the silver fitting at the preload side of the shock, it should be a valve so you can pump up the shock pressure. I covered adding pressure to my shock in a different thread. Mine came with 40psi, and I pumped it up to 100 just to see the effect, and it made a small difference on the damping, mostly on rebound. That said, yours doesn't lool like it has the valve, only a plug, so that may explain why it feels like a pogo stick. With zero psi in my shock it too was a springy mess.
Thanks Dan, i'll follow up on my options tomorrow and see if i can get the correct shock .


 
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